So why did you stop using Manual?
What was your reason anon?
I didn't.
>>14851623
Yet you and I are the rare exception.
I'm not asking people who didn't why they didn't, I'm asking those who did why they did.
>>14851605
Because I parked my car and went inside.
I didn't, and i think i will never do, untill manuals go full extinction
My wife and her son can't drive stick and refuse to learn
>>14851639
>her son
>>14851605
I think it's less people stopping and more people never learning
>>14851642
when learning to drive it is just one extra thing to fuck with your concentration
>>14851645
True. At least in the US it seems like the only people who buy manual cars are people who are enthusiasts, others can't be bothered
>>14851645
So you're retarded, got it.
I want to learn how. It's just that nobody I know drives a manual.
>>14851645
>>14851650
Manual's require literally no concentration. Once you get past the initial stage that lasts about a week, they become entirely second nature.
I even have friends who aren't car guys and drive manuals, who know this shit.
They're literally easy as snot to drive, especially if you just do the hold-clutch-in-downshift or the neutral to redlight tactic that newbie drivers do.
There's literally no difficult to it, whatsoever.
>>14851645
Not an excuse. You need to get the basics down in a car park before driving on the road. If you can't shift while driving you're not ready to be on the road.
>>14851665
I don't put much faith in the ability of the retard 16 year olds here in burgerland
>>14851680
>>14851627
underrated
>>14851605
I haven't yet.
I got an E-Class and they only sold some of those with a manual transmission.
>>14851693
God bless
>>14851605
Never stopped, unless I move to a REALLY REALLY congested area like NY, DC, or LA (which I doubt will happen) I never will stop.
I love this super autist meme that is growing on o/ now about how shifting is somehow a big distraction that is hard to overcome. In the exact same way that uneven ground is a HUGE distraction when walking! If you have any coordination in your body at all, it isn't a problem. It's OK if you are uncoordinated and untalented with hand & foot coordination, but let's not pretend that just b/c you can't do something it must be difficult or impossible for normal people.
>>14851663
it aint that hard, any monkey can do it.
besides, theres tons of vids on yt etc, buy a 500 $ shitbox, and practice
>>14851605
because I got a good deal on an automatic shitbox
>>14851605
My brother switched to an automatic when it was time for a new car once he had a baby. Got something a bit bigger and safer. the car he got didn't come with a manual eitherway, but i think at that point he switched to auto for the sake of ease, and his wife isn't one for manuals.
Surgery on my clutch leg. I can't run, I can barely walk without a limp, so depressing a clutch repeatedly is out of the question.
Speaking of depressing, I wish I was dead.
>>14851605
My manual car got fucked up. So I go a new car. It an auto, but its fine for what I do which is mostly stop and go. I miss the stick slightly, but i just need something to get me by college. I got my motorcycle which is manual which is good enough
I drive in a city
Automatic transmissions are getting better, they are almost as gas efficient as Manual, Computers shift faster than humans anyway.
It's actually kind of dumb how Manual is still around. The whole purpose of tools is to make things easier and more streamlined. Driving manual in a brand new car is like Dial-up internet for a new computer or using a black powder rifle.
You would only do it for fun as it is completely irrelevant today
>>14851740
I commuted into DC with a manual, it was pretty shitty desu, switched to a automatic. 4 mile heavy back up at a stoplight every morning morning, virtual stand still traffic to turn right (never understood this one????) every afternoon afternoon, it wasn't fun.
>>14851805
Manual offers superior engagement. For someone who enjoys the actual driving experience (especially someone who seeks out backroads and mountain roads), this is a huge deal.
On a switchback, you simply will not have the same kind of fun with a car with an auto as you will with a manual.
>Driving manual
>Someone gets in a wreck 20 feet in front of me
>I have to hurry and shift all the way down from 6 to 1.
>I quickly shift from 5 to 6 and then brake
>I then shift 5 to 4th but I'm still going too fast
>I then quickly shift from 4th to 3rd gear
>I almost at the wreck and still doing 35
>I try and shift into second
>It starts grinding on the transmission, I'm still going too fast
>I brace for impact.
>I hit the car doing 30.
>All because it takes forever to shift.
You see how this could had bean avoided? If you had an automatic you could just hit the brakes like a normal non autistic person.
Instead you have manual and you have to kick and dance hoping you can shift down fast enough not to stall your car. smdh familia
>>14851826
>throw in neutral
>slam on breaks
>>14851826
You're an idiot. If you had dropped it into neutral and braked, the revs would have dropped.
Like holy fucking shit the idiocy in this post is insane.
>>14851826
just brake and clutch at the same time
who cares what the engine is doing
>>14851826
Clutch in with left foot, put in neutral and brake hard dingus
>>14851826
>engine braking
>emergency stop
You don't know how to drive do you
>>14851826
Are you retarded? You can just use the brake in that situation and shift back from 6 to 1 or 2 (depends on speed after braking or going to a full stop). You dont need to backshift all gears while braking, that is basically how to ruin the clutch. Why are you even on /o/?
>>14851826
OR you just brake hard while shifting... or even just smack the gearbox into neutral while braking... or even the tried & true "push in clutch & brake at same time cause you have two feet"...
>>14851846
I put it in neutral if i have to brake hard is that bad?
>>14851826
>mfw an idiot posts on /o/.
>>14851834
>not just braking while in gear
Why can Americans just not ever seem to 'get' manuals, either they're pretending that a manual makes a car a race car or they're doing stupid shit like this.
>>14851834
>>14851837
>>14851839
>>14851841
>>14851842
>>14851846
>>14851847
>>14851858
I did it guys, I found the best way to trigger /o/
>>14851857
Yeah sure, nice try. You didn't trick us, you just didn't know.
Must be playing too much Gran Turismo and Forza to know what the fuck neutral does.
>>14851857
only pretending
>555-come-on-now.png
>>14851826
>Engine braking during a panic stop
Fuck off retard
>>14851826
>hit clutch and brake at same time
>don't even touch the fucking gear stick.
I don't downshift through gears, that's fucking dumb.
I just brake when I need to, then rev match to whatever gear matches my speed.
What the he'll is a manual is that some natural aspiration horseshit.
>>14851857
>Itwasaruse.jpg
Sure thing child.
>>14851883
>>14851846
>>14851839
>Stalling the car
>Literally grinding his gears
Why would the hell would anyone get a manual at this point? They are just more trouble than they are worth.
>>14851896
Clutch into neutral, and brake.
Literally three steps that take less than half a second.
You would have to be a complete moron not to know this shit.
If you don't know it, then there's nothing wrong with the manual at this point, only the driver.
>>14851805
Manuals are safer because they are engaging enough for you to pay attention,
There is a reason why the UK has such a good driving record despite also having congested cities and a lot of drunk driving.
>>14851883
#ripsynchros
>>14851605
I wrecked my left knee while in the military. I -can- drive manual, but it's difficult in some vehicles. Heavy clutches are agonizing to drive.
>>14851903
I don't put my automatic tranny into neutral when I brake, must be a poorfag problem
>>14851905
Your forgetting there is less drivers in the UK and much less area to drive. Also it's much more expensive to drive in the UK so only people who can and want to drive will drive.
In the US everyone has the freedom and opportunity to drive which makes bad results sometimes.
>>14851826
these are the kind of people you argue with on /o/ on a daily basis
>>14851913
And here I thought the guy above talking about shifting down to brake, was an idiot.
>>14851645
At this point I just can't tell if people genuinely think manual is some sort of black voodoo magic, of they are just memeing about by now.
Automatic
>See obstacle
>Brake
Crises averted.
Manual
>See obstacle
>Have to put your foot on the clutch
>Shift into neutral
>Brake
>Run into car.
Hmnnnnn
>>14851950
Again with shift into neutral.
Correct procedure is to stomp both feet down as hard as you can.
>>14851950
You don't have to do anything if you put the clutch in as it's functionally the same as being in neutral for as long as you have it engaged.
Stop samefagging and being underage.
>>14851963
Tip from actual driver, just concentrate on the brake until the engine starts bogging down, then you're going slow enough to concentrate on anything but the brake and pop it into neutral. That's how you emergency stop. Concentrate on your braking (unless you have ABS).
>>14851980
If you've driven a manual for any amount of time I guarantee you'll hit both pedals in an emergency by force of habit.
>>14851605
>Became old
>Got proper job
>Nose to tail traffic in city
>Can't deal with clutch action
>Have second car anyway
Early-onset rheumatoid arthritis
>>14851994
I drive up to about 10-15 different manual vehicles a day for work (UK HGV and LCV mechanic), drive an auto for my DD and have two motorcycles, and I can still emergency stop perfectly, every time. Maybe you're not cut out for driving in general...
>>14851950
>implying these need to be done in separate steps
>implying I need to shift to neutral
>implying I can't slam both pedals at the same time
>>14851994
No you won't.
>>14851980
Is right. Brake, then clutch into neutral. Everyone who is saying to shift into neutral while braking is correct. That's the proper way to brake, in accordance to Skip Barber training.
Only amateurs slam on both pedals. Plus, slamming onto pedals can sometimes be redundant. As advanced as ABS is, at 75MPH you will need to modulate some braking pressure, even over uneven ground, in order to stop quicker. Panic braking can induce lockup, even on new cars.
>>14851605
I didn't I still have fully functioning hands, legs and testicals thanks.
Not a sports car
>>14852024
and i drive a 1980s f1 car
>>14851944
are there not countless learner drivers bunny hopping and stalling out ?
>>14852044
If you think being a mechanic or having several cheap vehicles is unattainable, what are you doing on a car board?
>>14852052
just because you drive a bunch of vehicles, doesn't prove your worth as a driver
>>14852049
Yes, and? Driving a manual is not an innate ability, but it's not hard to learn either.
>>14851663
Location?
>>14851645
That's like not learning to use a pen because it's just one more thing to fuck with your concentration when writing.
>>14852059
he said HGV mechanic, not racing driver you dummy
>>14852059
In this particular case, of driving a manual for 'any length of time' and suddenly being unable to operate a motor vehicle correctly, yes it does. Although I agree in general.
>>14852063
>Driving a manual is not an innate ability
he he yea...
>>14852084
Wow you must be a natural :^)
>>14852074
If you ride a bike as you say, you should know as with a car, the correct way to do it is not to shift into neutral.
Ideally you want to be almost stopped and grab 1st, because if you've had to stop suddenly the person behind you is probably about to make you a hood ornament, so you need to be able to drive out of danger.
>>14852092
obviously
>>14852025
You can even just slam only the brake and stall the car. Better than fucking crashing into someone.
>>14852094
Bike is totally different, and a lot more involved. I'm not going to go into that because it's a whole thread of discussion by itself but if I'm in a car I don't really care if some guy behind me got his braking advice from /o/ and can't emergency stop, his insurance will buy me a new car and pay me out some sexy compo. Besides which, your responsibility in a car is what is happening in front of you. Different on a bike cause obviously the insurance company isn't going to buy you an iron man suit to replace your mulched legs.
>>14852094
>thinks wearing out the clutch components is a more ideal situation to wearing out braking components.
Logic has failed this one.
>>14852094
Plus, if you're in first and you get tapped hard enough, your foot will come off the clutch and you will end up driving into the car in front instead of being tapped into it.
>>14852124
>missing the point
>>14852126
>no
>>14852113 gets it. The number one aim of the game is to stop your car in the shortest distance possible. Stalling your engine is not worse than killing a child.
>>14852094
If you had to stop suddenly in the street, what makes you think there would even be room for you to "avoid danger"? Unless you're in the sticks or driving in the dead of night, guaranteed there will be traffic all around you.
If someone's coming that fast at you from behind, you're basically going to get hit or you will hit someone else while "driving out of danger."
>>14852134
Ever been hit by a car from behind? Your foot will move, pal.
>>14852134
There is no point to what you're saying. You logic is irrefutably mistaken.
You drop into neutral after reducing speed to about 20MPH through braking alone, by modulating pressure.
If you clutch in and brake in at the same time, you will be doing what's called "panic braking" and will more than likely lock up the wheels, even on cars with ABS. This can increase braking distance. Furthermore, you increase clutch wear tremendously.
So, in the first instance, you don't suffer any repercussions, brake sooner, and live to see another day.
And in the second scenario you lock up, loose braking distance, at the least risk clutch wear/tire wear and at the most, die.
Again, logic has failed you.
Just shut up. You sound idiotic.
>>14851605
I'm lazy
>>14852152
>ABS
>Anti-Lock Braking System
>>14852152
>if you clutch in and brake at the same time, it's panic braking
I just can't anymore. I'm done with this board.
>>14852164
I think that's what we were talking about yeah?
>>14852152
everything you say is wrong
pls leave
>>14852164
You're an awful driver. Not even in a catastrophic way, just decidedly sub-par.
>>14852152
>If you clutch in and brake in at the same time, you will be doing what's called "panic braking" and will more than likely lock up the wheels, even on cars with ABS. This can increase braking distance. Furthermore, you increase clutch wear tremendously.
>brake
>leave it in gear because anon said I'd stop sooner
>car stalls
>front collision because no servo so you didn't swerve away from the cause of you braking
Hey guys, I guess that counts as stopping sooner eh?
>>14852152
>clutch in while braking is panic braking
>not being in gear while breaking causes massive loss in traction
>abs doesn't work with clutch in
>clutch wears while not engaged
>calling anyone an idiot
Wew lad
>>14852152
>about to crash
>worried about clutch component wear
>If you clutch in and brake in at the same time, you will be doing what's called "panic braking"
lol k there is not much difference between pulse braking and not pushing the pedal all the way down
all you have to do is keep the wheels rolling
>>14852160
>>14852164
ABS doesn't mean Anti-Lock. You ever panic braked from 75MPH? I have, to avoid a SAAB that swerved in front of me and slammed on his brakes.
I did it in an Audi S4, on the 401, in Toronto.
Instant lockup, with the rear end sliding out.
Modern ABS reduces lock up at slow speed. At high speed, the grip factor on the tires is practically redundant, so the ABS system, even though it's reducing brake pressure, is unable to properly calculate the levels of grip available to the tire to stop. This can cause near instant lock up.
I'm thinking you've never been on a track either, in any RWD car, because you would have experienced this as well.
>>14852164
Try it, at 75MPH. Go ahead. See if it locks up. What do you think the effectiveness of your drivers instinct will be at that speed? Do you think you'll just automatically know to modulate brake pressure to reduce the lockup I mention above?
_____________________
I'm starting to think that most of /o/ has little to no track or professional driving training experience.
>>14852212
Why does having the clutch in have anything to do with monkeyfisting the god damn break pedal you mong
>>14851605
Manual version of my car is stupidly rare and over priced where I live, so I went for the more common auto
I regret this
>>14851650
I've met people who drive manual that can't even work on their own car.
>>14851693
That hoof scoop does nothing, like, really, nothing at all
>>14852225
Not the guy you're responding to but you did try and say it was a good idea to just mash both pedals. Which it is not.
>>14852212
ABS does mean anti lock you absolute walking redundancy.
I've slammed the brakes going 160 km/h (because moose) and guess what? I didn't even have to hold the steering wheel.
This was in a 2001 330i, brake tech has gone a long way since then.
Furthermore it's probable that your friends S4 has been modified (seeing how it's a great platform for modifying stuff) and he's fucked with the brakes, and didn't care enough to re-unfuck them.
>>14852212
The S4 is shit. When I panic brake at 80 mph in my E46, I just get hyperactive ABS. I honestly think you have no experience and panic swerved while braking, which lead to your lockup and spinout. Please try to construct a meaningful post without such obtrusive plot hones.
>>14852066
Tampa, FL
>>14851639
>sells his car becuase wife and her son refuse to learn
>HIS car
>THEY refuse to learn
>doesn't tell them "tough luck"
What's it like being a cuck?
>>14852243
Duh?
It's also a bad idea to violently swerve into a barrier. But I fail to see what the fuck this has to do with the car being in gear.
>>14852212
>ABS doesn't mean anti-lock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system
fuck VW drivers can't even read
>>14852250
>newfags
I've never touched a manual.
I'm thinking about taking a defensive driving course, and learning manual with them. Get the basics down, maybe learn the technical aspects, then finish learning on my own.
>>14852212
>>14852212
>inb4 I was only pretending to be retarded you were all trilled
>>14852253
Aside from your backpedalling, the other point that was trying to get across was that you should have 100% of your concentration on the brake pedal and the steering until such time as it's safe to worry about whether it's in gear or not. Really, you're just a below average driver.
>>14852259
>mfw I think he meant it doesn't guarantee anti-lock all the time, which he's right about.
>>14851783
Damn
>>14852290
>planes don't actually fly because they could run out of fuel and then become a glider
nigga what
also, anti- means "against," "in opposition to," or "opposite of"
>braking system that opposes locking up
learn to engrish
>>14851826
nice bait bro
>>14851639
Wow man why the fuck would you date someone with a child they're just using you for financial stability. You've already made yourself the cuck
>>14852253
Just give up dude, i did an hour ago.
>>14851605
Because I live in Houston traffic. fuck. that. shit.
My wife's son kept telling me he didn't like riding around in a manual car, he didn't feel safe.
>>14852212
Autism: The Post.
ZF Automatic>>>>>>>CVT>>Aisin Automatic>>>Manual
>>14852392
>newfags
>>14852420
Who fucking cares you fag. Tell your son to grow a fucking pair. What a bitch. Bitch boy for a bitch father.
>>14852467
He's not my son, he has a different father.
I drive a manual Miata right now but there's a good chance my next car will be an automatic. Reason? Because I want to try the 'murrican V8 lyfe but I'm poor so the only $3500 LS1 cars you find are autos.
>>14852499
PLEASE CHRIST BE A MEME RESPONSE
If that is true I only pray you're a swede as is your natural state of cuckdom.
>>14852467
>Getting memed on this hard
>Typing like an illiterate nigger
Fuck off, retard. Go back to reeeddit, and never speak to me or my wife's son again.
>>14852287
I'm so confused as to how you fail to see how stupid you sound.
Slamming the clutch in and braking is the fastest way to stop? Really you could say fuck the clutch all together and focus on breaking but that still doesn't have anything to do with the fact that the vehicle being in gear is completely irrelevant in an emergency stop.
I'm not even back peddling, this has been my position the entire time you dip
>>14852538
I'm American, I live in Vermont. My wife had her son when she was very young, went through a bit of a rough time with his father (he spent some time in jail, but he came from a really bad area and didn't really have a chance). They are on better terms now and still see each other regularly for lunch and coffee, but she lives with me in my house.
>>14852467
>>14852538
>being this new
>>14852558
When irony and jokes become too scary.
>imagine living that life
>>14852538
Yes it is a meme
However it is presented slightly unconventional as its traditional to say they are half black.
For example:
>My wife's son goes to an african american driving school (He's only half black but whatever). He said he didn't like riding around in a manual car, he didn't feel safe.
>>14851605
I don't want to perform dumb unnecessary steps to do something that can be done automatically, because I need something lame like this to feel better about myself. I live in a town where there are a million lights, and people stop and slow down often. I just wanna enjoy the ride. It's a dumb tradition that has been passed along because people are usually sheep, and will do things like this, just because. If manual cars had an option for a hand crank instead of a modern ignition system, I bet you'd see faggots touting that as a "must".
>>14852574
Read between the lines famalam:
>(he spent some time in jail, but he came from a really bad area and didn't really have a chance).
subtle nig is subtle
>>14852577
Posts like this goes to show there are two types of people on /o/:
>love cars, hate driving
>love cars, love driving
>>14852578
Yeah but I took so long writing my response that was posted yet.
Anon is doing a class A job of creating a cuckold fantasy.
>>14852586
Also the rare aut/o/bot
>hate cars, love driving
>>14852577
>I'm afraid to learn new things
Manual is not that hard holy shit.
>>14852586
Most people on /o/ can't even do a fucking oil change.
This board is the new place for libcucks to cream themselves about Tesla and other modern unreliable electric dogshit. BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT RWD
Fucking joke.
>>14852608
/pol/ go back to your hugbox
>>14852601
It's hard to press the clutch when your leg weight over 70kg.
>>14852633
it's easy to press the pedal in, it's hard to lift it back up.
I've never driven a manual.
Sometime next month I'm going to look to buying some 1k or less manual to beat the shit out of (or maybe a 1k-3k miata, depending what's for sale at the time), and then one I feel I've got it down I want to get something sweet. Probably a Corvette, but I'd consider an Evo or wrx.
>>14851623
he didnt ask u....
>>14852552
That shit reminds me of the illustrations in those old scary stories to tell in the dark books for some reason.
>>14852633
if you leg is that big, how did u get in the car and have room for belt and ignition?
how did u ever get out?
automatic is better
Got a faster, comfier, more spaceous tiptronic.
>still miss my manual
>>14851605
I use auto and manual everyday, theres not much practical difference around town, an if its a good auto not much difference in spirited or aggressive driving. The faster /o/ gets over this arbitrary pissing contest the faster it will be a better board.
Also why do all manufacturers use H pattern? Why not sequential?
>muh rally racer
>>14851693
Don't even act like you wouldn't drive the shit out of that.
>>14851605
Been driving manual for 7 yrs
>>14852677
AMERICAN CARS, THAT'S HOW.
My fucking wife cant fucking drive manual and we can only afford one car.
KEKED
U
C
K
E
D
What moreso is that she is an american and we need a truck so she "needs" one with a nose on front and is deathly 'fraid of cabovers
Nearest truck that matches our real world requirements?
>8,000 coconuts
Nearest truck that matches her requirements?
>45,000 coconuts
She is also a spend'a'holic so anytime we have 5 coconuts she has to spend 8.
Spend all day doing labor intensive work and when I get home she keeps screaming at me that I am not a team player for not continuing to do labor intensive work at home. Everytime try to talk to her just to ask her to leave me alone for 10 fucking mins she has to "resolve our problems right now!". So I don't fucking talk to her anymore but obviously that is a fucking problem too.
I don't know what to do anymore. I think I am just about done with this bossy bitch.
>>14851805
Manuals offer more significantly more control over the vehicle.
For example, in a manual, you can downshift a gear or two entering a corner, which allows you to control the grip and torque of a FWD car. In an automatic, you don't have this fine control over your wheel speed, and you're more likely to enter the corner with too much inertia, understeer and crash.
The benefits of manual extend beyond the drivetrain, and it significantly affects the way a vehicle handles.
>>14852847
>affects the way a vehicle handles
Not that guy but, in the context of city traffic thats a bit irrelevant.
>>14852677
I retracted the cup holder.
>>14852833
This made me sad
>>14852833
Bummer bro.
>>14852643
You'll learn it one hour and then wonder why you wasted 1k on a piece of shit you didn't even need for a day. Buy a nice car, learn on it.
>>14851605
Just turned 30 recently.
I sold my DD manual for an automatic. Manual just gets old. Especially when you use your car for the work commute. It's just one more hassle to deal with. I am much much happier driving an autobox every day.
>>14851783
This is the only ligitament reason to own an automaistc
>>14851605
It's a pain in the ass, I'm a working man and need to drive to work and back every day. I don't have time for that shit.
>>14852212
God damn son cool your jets.
Just went 0-100 real quick....
>>14851783
replace hand brake cable with clutch cable and git good.
>>14851826
You have two feet, don't you? Stomp the brake and you're still free to downshift if you want, otherwise just put it in neutral.
Clearly you've never actually driven with a manuel transmisscion before.
>>14851826
>clutch
>brakes
>stop
>neutral
autist much ?
Had a turbo 400, so I used it
>>14851912
You're excused lol, thank you for your service
>>14852016
Jokes on you faggot I was born with rheumatoid arthritis in my knees
>kill me
Parents bought the car for me.
>No, Anon, you're not getting a stickshift.
>Those transmissions aren't reliable.
>You'll just waste more gas.
>CVT isn't that bad.
>>14853015
>thank you for your service
when will this meme die
>>14851826
good b8, as evidenced by the shitload of (You)s
>>14852608
>This board is the new place for libcucks to cream themselves about Tesla and other modern unreliable electric dogshit
Nah, /g/ is far more hyped about self-driving cars than /o/.
My dad's friend was moving and didn't want the hassle of taking all his cars with him, so I bought his 2007 g35 for 2000$ with 140,000 km on it.
Plan on selling it for a car that I won't feel bad hooning in.
>>14851605
I wonder if that shift knob gets hot in the summer
I had a metal shift knob before and it felt like it was a degree off molten
Ended up replacing it with a leather one
>>14852139
or just get a fucking automatic desu
>>14851605
>TFW too many vehicles and need to downsize
>Have to get rid of my 5 speed s10 and 79' cj7 w/ a 304 and 3 speed
>The s10 was my first vehicle
>My new DD will be a four cylinder automatic subaru outback
>>14851605
My Lexus didn't have the option for manual. Sometimes I miss it, but it's still a pretty nice ride. Will probably sell it in 3-4 years and get back in the MT game with a C6 Vette or something.
>>14852953
Hahah holy shit man you have to be 18+ to post here
>>14853167
why would you settle for that as your dd?
>is your wife/gf pressuring you?
>>14851639
> don't ever talk to me or my son ever again
>>14851645
i learned how to drive and how to drive a manual by myself at basically the same time.
Driving is mostly not being an idiot and being aware, a manual can mess with that at first, but once it becomes second nature it helps you keep focused.
>>14852847
very correct
in a well sorted RWD car it might not be as important?
but when you drive a FWD shitbox through a fast corner, you're constantly adjusting the torque to the wheels via gas and braking
>>14851950
your left foot operates the clutch, not your right
you can use two feet at the same time right?
>>14851964
> engaged
engaging the pedal disengages the clutch anon
>>14851826
MADMAN
>>14851826
I can't believe how many people you nabbed with this one m8 :^)
>>14852847
>c, you don't have this fine control over your wheel speed,
my automatic transmissions have full manual control
you're wrong. this entire argument for manuals being superior due to control is based in falsities
>1st gear
>low speed corners under 50mph
>2nd gear
>corners under 90 mph
>3rd gear
>to 130+ mph
>4th gear
>155 mph
so basically i only need 3rd or 2nd gear for almost any scenario.
>1st gear locked out
>light throttle to bring up revs to powerband
>go WOT and break the rears loose
>get sideways and bam bam bam the limiter into 2nd gear
with a built auto trans they will down-shift on command and can handle insane levels of abuse. much better for some good ol' fashion muscle car fun
much like a solid rear axle. sure IRS is technically superior in most cases, but i can beat on my muscle car like its a work truck.
>>14851605
gotta go faster
>>14851834
In Germany they teach us that "emergency brake" is stomping hard on brake and clutch simultaneously until the car has stopped, then letting go of the brake but not the clutch so the car does not stall, then changing gears to first and navigating somewhere safe. They make us train that multiple times in driving school.
>>14853992
For when there's an angry mob of "refugees" demanding you introduce shariah law blocking the road, I presume?
>>14854009
No issue. I drive an RV so I always have a shower and an oven handy.
>>14851665
>or the neutral to redlight tactic that newbie drivers do.
I'm not a newbie and I do that unless I know for sure the light is about to turn green. Even then, I can just slam it in 2nd if I miscalculate. I gotta admit I don't always downshift to redlights because I have a loud exhaust and don't always feel like being a douche
>>14851826
koalatea bait
>>14854009
Hitler must be spinning in his grave
>>14851826
god bless your baiting skills
>>14853914
>autotragic in a muscle car
>fun
Boomer driving a base 2005 Mustang GT detected
>>14851605
for the last 5 years i've been drving auto. my car exploded (almost literally) and needed something that day. has been my daily driver.
however just picked up a 78 f150. it needs some body work, but engine and transmission are good. 3 speed, so i'm back to standard after some work
>>14854028
This. I only downshift to 4th (occasionally 3rd), then just go to neutral from there.
>>14851605
They don't offer a modern Land Cruiser in the states in a manual.
>>14851826
absolutely fantastic
The shitbox I wanted was only offered in a 6spd DCT.
It's just as responsive and even quicker to shift, but I'd have given my left nut for a bombproof 5spd manual to row through on the freeway.
>>14852240
It saved your ass from the Nazis,it doesn't have to do anything anymore.
>why did you stop using Manual?
I drive an old 10 speed dump truck 9 hours a day. It's nothing but constant clutch work. I just want to get able to relax on my way home
>>14855139
>saved your ass from the Nazis
>implying anyone needed saving from the Nazis
>>14855188
That first image's caption should say "European".
>>14855219
But then half of the images wouldn't make any sense. The image is specific to America.
>>14851740
I used to deliver pizza in a manual in an area where traffic was terrible. Worst fucking idea ever, goddamn. The worst part? I have no goddamn parking brake so not only did I have to sit in traffic fucking with 1st and neutral all day, I couldn't even relax by pulling the parking brake while in neutral. I had to hold the brake most of the time because the roads are never flat.
when I realized if you learn to use your foot, an automatic can be just as controllable.
>>14853055
get bent hippie
>>14855232
What did you do for parking in sloped driveways? Put bricks behind your wheels, lol
>>14851950
>Its really not that anon.
>>14852152
>Anon you might be retarded.
>>14852577
>Your funny anon.
>>14853992
>This anon gets it.
>>14855253
Id just turn the engine off in gear if the street wasn't flat. I did this for a year and a half and my car hasn't rolled away yet but I bet my starter hates the fuck out of me.
>>14853914
not >>14853914
but FUCK the manual trans in the 05+ GTs.
Absolute trash.
>Remote shifter location
>goes into gear, has 1.5" shifter movement while still in gear. Thanks Ford/Tremec, didn't know I was driving a 80s truck
>WOT in 1st or 2nd, and go to upshift
>clutch in, slide out of current gear, press into next gear spot, hear synchros
>3 seconds later, slips into gear
Garbage tier transmission.
>>14852953
You're a lifetime short bus rider aren't you?
>>14852272
Just test drive a stick car and teach yourself
>>14851805
Manual is cheaper and easier to repair.
I have a 5-speed F-150 that I still drive pretty often.
Great running truck, although it's geared pretty low.
>shifts like stirring a bucket of coal
>>14852608
>This board is the new place for libcucks to cream themselves about Tesla and other modern unreliable electric dogshit.
>tfw oil change monkey trying to learn more about cars
this isnt what i expected at all
but at the same time im really not surprised
>>14855339
The only thing you'll learn here is how to shitpost about meme laptimes and cars you will never drive.
>>14855351
>cars you will never drive.
which sucks cause now I really want an MR2, Celica, or MGB
>>14855301
I wouldn't do that
I'd find a friend that has a stick shift and ask him to teach you.
>>14855377
Would be best in a v6 or v8 anything, virtually impossible to stall. A 4 cylinder shitbox wants to stall so easy.
>>14855383
There's an easy solution for that: Diesel.
However, if you do learn how to manual in an underpowered shitbox and genuinely get good, you will never stall anything ever again.
>>14855383
I agree.
Stalling is easy for a beginner but thats just how you learn to not take your foot off the clutch before you have enough gas. After you find the balance on your own car how would you stall ever again?
>>14855398
My WRX wants to stall so fucking easy it's unreal. I hop into a Mustang GT and it feels like you can just drop the clutch and not stall it. So fucking easy to drive unless it has an aggressive cam and aftermarket clutch that ways 8 million pounds.
>>14851826
>>I have to hurry and shift all the way down from 6 to 1.
>>I quickly shift from 5 to 6 and then brake
You don't have to do ANY of this, just hit the brake and pull it out of gear
>>14851605
Because I live in downtown LA and traffic is shit!
>>14851761
Your brother is doing it wrong.
Don't say "I got an automatic when I had a kid". Say "I got an automatic because I need a free hand to smack the kids in the backseat."
>>14855407
i stall plenty when i test drive used cars
most shitboxes have worn clutches and it's hard to adjust
>>14853992
That's also the proper way to brake to a stop. If you fucking go through a sequential downshift procedure, you're putting unnecessary wear on your clutch and synchros in addition to wasting time, wasting gas, and possibly reducing your ability to react to traffic. Only downshift if you have a turn coming up that won't require a full stop.
You DO have synchros, though, so it's best to be in neutral sometime while doing that so you shift to second if you need to accelerate. Never mind the jolt.
>tfw big leather shifter boot instead of nice clean channels
>>14855407
so, instead of learning to do it perfectly, you learn to launch it by revving to 3k and grinding the fuck out of the clutch for five seconds.
to drive properly, you need a teacher and a lot of parking lot practice.
>>14855571
>so, instead of learning to do it perfectly, you learn to launch it by revving to 3k and grinding the fuck out of the clutch for five seconds.
what? No don't do that.
>>14855571
>you need a teacher
so a friend who has a manual
>>14855260
>Greentexting everything
>tfw no more new manual 1 ton diesels
How hard is it to make a 800 ft lb, 200k mile capable manual transmission?
>>14855606
speaking of this
assuming I treat my transmission good, how many miles can I get out of a standard vehicle?
>>14855606
Ram does still sell the 2500 and 3500 diesel with a 6 speed but the torque output is lower than the automatic version.
>>14855633
That question is way to ridiculously broad to answer accurately. Speaking in broad strokes, a good vehicle should certainly last over 200,000 miles if well maintained.
>>14855650
I mean specifically the transmission, assuming what ever you'd consider good care, how long should a clutch/transmission/etc last?
>>14851740
I live and commute in LA in a manual. It's not that bad even in traffic
>>14851663
So go to a driving school?
>>14855551
I drove a car the other day where the bite point felt like it had only 1cm of engagement. I couldn't find it up until I stalled it because I gave up looking for it. The engagement was right at the very top making it so goddamn uncomfortable to drive.
Because I learned how to work on automatic transmissions and clutches on anything smaller than an Eaton are a pain in the ass to deal with.
>>14851805
How is dial-up fun? Unless you have a supercar than there isnt a huge shift difference between auto and manual
>>14855714
it's easy to get used to a clutch after a few weeks,
but used cars are a shot in the dark and the owner is used to it, so they look at you like you're a dumbass
i've never driven a new manual car. must be heaven
>>14855655
A clutch should be good for over 100k miles if driven properly, and a manual transmission can hypothetically last forever if it's not abused.
>>14855714
I recently test drove a 350Z. I don't know why, but it was very annoying trying to drive it smoothly. Corvette which I also test drove was way easier.
