>>14851329
mercedes
>>14851385
Hahahahahaha no. These days Merc drivers have become the new BMW drivers where I live, while BMW drivers have finally learned how to use blinkers.
>>14851329
Saab. Since Volvos have become popular again they're being driven by assholes. That or Lexus around here.
>>14851416
Latest Lexus designs aren't pleasant tho.
>>14851329
Toyota. Being intelligent means buying something that will never let you down. "muh driving experience" is stupid by definition.
>>14851432
Toyotas are durable as every other car.
Enjoy your public transportation then.
>>14851329
1. Tesla
2. Porsche
That's it really.
>>14851329
Porsche drivers. It's just my experience.
Saab, needless to say.
>>14851446
>>14851446
My mother have a 2001 1.4 Corolla. It was bought in Germany two years ago. Low mileage, underside looks clean. I noticed right away that the engine sounds weird. This clattering sound when revving, sounded a bit like a diesel. Turned out that it eats oil. Guys at service said that the engine looks bad, like the previous owner was using it with low oil level and it would be simpler to find a new engine. So the new engine sounded good and felt more powerful but recently we have noticed that the clattering sound is back again on higher revs. Also there were problems with electronics, the rear fog light keeps turning on by itself and the interior is just poor and uncomfortable. Plastic stuff all around breaks. It's clearly a city car cause it sucks on highway. I'm trying to convince her to get something nicer like Volvo V50 but no, she likes the car cause it's compact and relatively high from the ground.
>>14851832
didn't know those hatchback corollas, they have the same disgusting shape as saab 900s lol
i don't know why but the shape is displeasing to me
>>14851870
Yes, the shape is very similar. I like fastback coupes. I'm a NG900 owner myself. The car feels like a supercar after driving my mother's Corolla.
>>14851446
>>14851832
https://youtu.be/YlYTvjUR1jg?t=55s
Toyota durability is just a myth. And there is reason for that. Old Toyota off-roaders were durable but all the rest after is just like every other car. Mostly average.
>>14851889
I like fastback coupes too but those are some ugly hatchbacks lel.
Too high of an angle to be a fastback.
I like the convertible version though. Love how it sorta looks like a motorboat inside.
>>14851432
i've had the most intelligent discussions with toyota and subaru owners as long as the discussion is not about cars
i own toyota, honda, mitubishi and suzuki so i'm not biased
>>14851385
Who is this scrotum totem
>>14851938
We all got our own tastes and I dislike convertibles. Nothing against them. Those just aren't cars for me.
>>14851385
The last car I've been stuck behind before arriving home was an elderly couple's champagne metallic Mercedes which had a really weird convex reverse mirror on the parcel shelf, was glued to 5 under the limit and displayed irratic braking.
>>14851973
Fair enough.
I know my fair share of people who don't like convertibles.
That said, there's something very strange about those hatchbacks. It's almost like they're niche models. Something about that rear quarter. And I don't even know what it is, I mean, I love pic related and it doesn't have too different proportions back there. It's probably proportions+rounded shape. I don't like the rear of the sedan saab 900 either. That said, I love your 900 front end.
>>14852050
>I don't like the rear of the sedan saab 900 either.
Me nether. I like the classic 900 SPG's and I think that NG900 is a really good reincarnation of the design. They later ruined it with the late 90's/early 2000's design trends when making it into first gen 9-3 tho.
I don't like Audi's. Your pic related would be exception till it comes to their price. I'll better have the perfect SPG for the money.
>>14851454
this
Living in southern Cali if seen so many shit Land Rover and bmws driving like shit than I can count.
>>14851329
Mazda. Seriously here in yurop is you see someone driving a Mazda that means he did his homework and is informed, and did not just enter the first (french or german) dealership he saw.
>>14851329
Not any one manufacturer per se, smart people tend to pick the most reliable model by year, saying they only pick and stick with one brand is stupid
>>14852129
That rear looks much better but still doesn't cut it for me. Specially the front end in that case. The whole stacked lights thing never did it for me. There are some old 900s that look sick though, just saw one on google. That said, the sedan I was talking about is pic related. Of course I would take any saab if it was gifted to me. Even the ugly duckling ones seem to be pretty sick when it comes to the driving experience.
>>14852129
>>14852182
The sick looking one I was talking about.
BTW doesn't the sedan remind you of the shitty Renault sedans from the 80s? (12, 18)
Mercedes-Benz (specifically the S-Class), Jaguar or SAAB.
>>14852192
The renault in question
>>14852213
What about Benz CLS?
>>14852182
And what do you think about Porsche's designs?
>>14852192
You're clearly not a Saab fan if you like these visual modifications. I remember that video. People weren't complimenting the exterior in comments.
>>14852231
No, it doesn't remind me of Renault. More like the Renault reminds me of Saab (99).
>>14852192
>>14852231
>>14852274
>>14851329
Anyone saying Saab is a bit retarded.
What intelligent person buys a car from a dead manufacture?
The most intellegent people I know drive beat up shitboxes from like Suzuki or Daewoo or some other random manufacture of cheap boxes on wheels.
Aston Martin.
Porsche, Saab (RIP), Volvo, and Teslas seem to all have bretty gud drivers.
>>14852300
So much intelligence going on in this post.
Who gives a fuck.
>>14852365
Found the moron
>>14851385
who is this semen demon
>>14852251
>And what do you think about Porsche's designs?
I get mixed feelings about them. I don't love them from the rear but I find the car as a whole very pleasing.
>You're clearly not a Saab fan if you like these visual modifications. I remember that video. People weren't complimenting the exterior in comments.
I'm a 9000 and 9-5 fan. Also love their interiors.
>No, it doesn't remind me of Renault. More like the Renault reminds me of Saab (99).
It's true that the 99 looks more like the Renault, I can't deny it. Surprisingly enough, I think I like the silhouette of the 99 more than the 900 one. Not enough to love it though.
I'd like one of the following Swedish cars:
>9000 aero
>9-5 aero (pre facelift)
>960 (last facelift) both wagon and sedan
9-3 convertible
>>14851931
>reddit car reviews
Fuck outta here
Saab, never been wronged by a Saab driver. New Mini drivers are terrible.
>>14852477
Give me your review then.
Land Rover.
>>14852508
>Land Rover
>a brand that sees more time in the shop than anywhere else
>bought by intelligent people
>>14852231
I actually like 1980s Renaults, designwise. Wouldn't want to drive one, though.
>>14851454
>tesla
>>14852414
The 99 is a bit older than that Renault.
You can't not love Saab interiors if you have sat in one.
If I would want a wagon, I would go for 9-5. First facelift tho cause I like that grill better. Pre-facelift has a bit nicer rear lights.
>>14852600
Did you seriously delete your post and re-type it just so you could capitalize the p in Pre-facelift?
>>14852591
Are you capable to express your opinion with at least one sentence?
>>14852609
kek
No. There was a different type-o. Is there a problem, sir?
>>14852617
Kek, there wasn't any other type you mong, pic related
>>14852300
as for me, the people I see driving Saabs keep them pristine, even the older ones. I can't come up with one bad driver anecdote that involves a saab. They're great cars but they're too quirky for normies to handle.
The only people driving mercs and porsches where I live (college town) are rich foreign exchange students from china or korea that have no fucking clue how to drive; or, at least, if they do know how to drive, it's negated by the fact that he/she is staring into their fucking phone for 50% of the time.
>>14852629
There was in first sentence. The grammar tends to be messy when you are thinking in more than one language. But what's the problem? You're really trying so desperately to find a little shit like that so you could have an opportunity to attack someone with your cringyness? Get over it, kid.
>>14852631
Yeah so Saab drivers are more likely to be enthusiasts. Not necessarily intelligent people.
>>14852669
What's cringy is deleting your post to fix two tone grammatical errors, who gives a shit what country your from? Anyone who knows English would have overlooked the issues, who are you trying to impress? Yourself?
>>14852611
>Are you capable to express your opinion with at least one sentence?
Tips fedora. That said, a picture is worth a thousand words.
>>14852600
That looks pretty sweet, reminds me of BMW wagons. The sedan is pretty sweet too so it would be hard for me to choose. Euro wagons are damn awesome.
>>14852697
Impressing someone is the only thing that comes in your mind. Guess it's important for teenager like you. And it looks like we are the only ones here who are bothered by my errors. For some reason you are bothered even more than I am. Have a good life!
>>14852734
I'm not into sedans so much. 9000 and 2nd gen pre-facelift 9-3 are the only ones I like.
>>14852758
wtf, looks like a diablo clone
>>14851416
>That or Lexus around here.
I would have to say lexus as well. Lots of dumb people drive them, but so do lots of intelligent people. For a primary car, there is no reason not to buy a lexus as they are well made, the resale value is high, the dealership / service experience is good as well.
I purchased a 1 owner saab 9000 2 weeks ago. the owners were indeed quite intelligent and successful.
>>14854403
no it looks like a p140 with a few simple mods
>>14854403
More like the Diablo looks like a Cizeta clone
>>14854401
Intelligent people liked V16 engines before VAG started making them.
>>14856795
Ok, we get it. You like the car.
>>14855644
How is a second hand CT200h for a car to recommend to the parents? Most importantly, maintenance costs on a high-mileage one?
I don't want to see them buy *another* Peugeot or a Nissan Note.
netherlands by the way, ex-lease CT's are in big supply low demand around here.
>>14858000
I'm for real, read on the history of both cars. The Cizeta came first. It was an original design by Gandini.
>>14859397
I don't care. And why are you comparing these two cars?
>>14859427
Because they're related and because an anon came up with it "looking like a diablo clone" first o I was responding to that.
>>14859531
I've never been a Diablo fan. I like Countach tho.
And why did you post it here? Are you saying that every smart person should daily drive this thing? Complicated engines doesn't seem a smart choice. Old v12's are expensive to maintain. That's why old v12 sedans are so cheap now.
>>14859637
Smart people drive exclusive things because being smart is how they got to be able to in the first place.
>>14859721
So what are you driving?
>>14859806
What does it have to do with this conversation?
I drive a 27 year old vw shitbox cause I'm a poorfag and can't afford to replace it right now.
>>14859877
The question is a part of conversation.
I'm just not into Italian supercars and especially your very favorite one So call me stupid then. I'll hope that I'll be able to maintain and drive my first car for the rest of my life.
Porsche here
In a sea of lane-cutting BMWs, WRXs, and shitbox civics, it's actually refreshing to see a Porsche coupe once in a while. Every Porsche driver I know personally is a sane, intelligent, and wealthy individual, and I've literally never seen a Porsche hooning in my town.
Only coupes though; Panameras and Cayennes are only driven by rich soccer moms and are conversely some of the worst drivers I've ever seen.
>>14859949
It's not my favorite one, but to have one you must be really rich. And to be really rich you need to be smart. This is a low production car so it's quite rare. One was destroyed by ICE not too long ago.
>>14859970
>to be really rich you need to be smart
Does inheritance count?
>>14860026
>implying dumb people who inherit don't end up poor
BTW the Donald is pretty smart, that's how he multiplied his wealth while living like a king.
Don't trust the chumps who claim Trump would be better off if he put his money in index funds, he would have to live like a poorfag for that to be true.
>>14860056
>reacting on meme faces
I don't give a damn about your Trump.
>>14860091
Kek. Wasn't his first, nor his last wreck.
>>14860091
my bad anon, I thought you meant he was one of those who are only rich because they inherited stuff
>>14860481
He was born into a very wealthy family and became rich the day he was born. I'm not saying that he hasn't done anything for his wealth. If you are rich, it is possible to hire highly educated people, business consultants, assistants who will help you build your business and your name will get all the glory.
>>14860647
Well, he got a leg up in life but by the time he inherited stuff he was already rich. He got a small loan of one million dollars from his father to start building his fortune though.
Volvo probably. I would have added Saab to the list, but a lack of parts will mean the owners are slowly giving them up.
>>14860842
>by the time he inherited stuff he was already rich
He inherited ''stuff'' from his first day on this planet.
>>14860921
Not exactly. He didn't own the assets, his father did.
>>14860961
I find the late Saab grille and headlights design to be busy, tacky, gaudy and tryhard.
>>14860946
You aren't a bright one, aren't you?
>>14860961
This isn't the prettiest Saab. Awesome interior tho.
>>14860987
I know what you're trying to say but you're wrong. Having a rich dad doesn't make you automatically rich. And while you get most of the perks of the rich lifestyle, you don't really own the stuff. You aren't the one calling the shots.
Even when he was CEO of the Trump organization without being the owner, he didn't get the full benefits of well made deals. His father and the shareholders did.
>>14860999
Agreed. I should have said something about it instead of just trashing the front end.
>>14861002
He didn't had to work a shitty job for his first shitty car nor work for his education. Also the free loan of one million dollars wouldn't be a small loan even for today. And till that point it wasn't all he got from his dad. That's called an inheritance. You have to be really stupid to don't know how to multiply funds like that. Especially when times were younger.
geo metro or ford festiva
>>14860961
Here's mine 9-5 sedan of choose.
>>14861090
Stay butthurt lol.
>>14861155
I will.
My girlfriend says that the headlight wipers make my car look like some sort of professor with glasses on. And of course the only decent picture I have has one of the wipers crooked.
>>14861200
>>14860091
RIP cars.
But yeah, usually these aren't chosen by the most intelligent types. Especially Aventadors.
>>14860091
and then fags ask why Ferrari is so nipticky on owners
