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I need some advices for a first car, living in Bongistan. My budget's up £1k. Was thinking of pic related.
Get whatever you can find with a 5 Star NCAP.
BMW E46. If you live in a bigger city look for the smaller engined ones (up to 2.0l)
Twingo
>>14802264
Living in Londonistan atm. I'm looking at up to 1.6L engines
>>14802264
A BMW for a first car in the UK is not a good idea. Insurance will be upwards of £4000
OP, get whatever shitbox is cheapest on insurance for a year and then get something cool once you have no claims. That is the dogshit system we live under.
>>14802270
What about E36 316i then
https://www.gumtree.com/p/bmw/bmw-316i-e36-coupe-98-r-reg-manual/1163347673
>dat bmw emblem lol
>>14802282
This, but 5 Star NCAP erry time. So glad my Clio had one.
>>14802249
Get an awful Clio or Corsa for a year, then something fun when your insurance isn't £10,000 a year
Not even hyperbole btw, I was quoted £10,470 on my dad's Supra when I was just starting out. It was an automatic A70 N/A as well, I guess the name scared then off.
>>14802282
This, a late 1990's / very early 2000's fiesta will do that trick.
Literally one of the only cars I've seen to get my insurance anywhere near £1k and I live in a fairly low crime area
>>14802286
He will get fucked for a BMW you illiterate dog
>>14802301
I was quoted 16k £ per year with 1 year driving experience for my E46 328ci living in London.
Look into a Hyundai Accent MVi, it's a surprisingly decent warm hatch that goes for basically nothing. I started on one and my first year was £898
>>14802317
>tfw low crime Scottish country town
>2 years no claims, E46 323Ci
>£710 per annum
London pakis mad jelly. Then I crashed it, got 3 points on my license and moved to an MG hatch with my third year no claims. No regrets.
>>14802304
>>14802286
>>14802282
Insurance in Bongland is a fucking joke, especially in big cities. I knew a guy who had to pay £10,000 per year for a BMW, which he crashed in first two months anyway...
>>14802301
>Not even hyperbole btw, I was quoted £10,470 on my dad's Supra
I win lol, this was for a 1996 Volvo 440.
>>14802334
>Scotland
>Need a fucking license for an airgun
>>14802338
It's calms down after you're 25, the "young drivers" premium is complete horseshit that tacks thousands of pounds on because <25 = instant death apparently.
>>14802334
Yeah fuck that, I`m moving out of the UK this summer. Hoping to never return
>>14802334
>>14802341
I don't live in a high crime area too, which made this even more hilarious.
>>14802344
I'm trying to move to a quiet English country town, Scotland is a fucking shithole
>>14802347
Or this, I hear Orlando is nice, and few places check for green cards
>>14802354
OP here, I'm moving from here too in few years. I can't stand this diverse mess
>>14802354
Would gladly move to `Murrica if only I had some friends or relatives there. Going to move to an even bigger shithole - my home country Latvia but at least I can afford to drive the cars I like there. Insurance costs about 90£ per year for a 3.0 liter BMW, your driving experience doesnt matter.
>>14802370
No friends or relatives in Murrica, I'm maybe going to Wrestlemania next year, and I'll just get a shitty job and "miss" my flight back
>>14802249
Do it.
>>14802263
For what reason, really?
The first car I drove when I got my license was my mother's Xsara Break, it had a 3 star rating and I never crashed. And I always speed wherever I'm going.
That's a fucking urban myth, that you'll eventually crash on your first months driving.
Had my license for almost 2 years and never crashed.
>>14802286
>316i
>not slow as a fucking turd
>>14803245
Anything 1.6 will be slow a fucking turd to be homest. The difference is that you can actually do burnouts and skids even with the 316i.
>>14803245
>taking davis seriously
You just know he's going to recommend a BMW, no matter how shit.
>>14803283
Even a beat to shit E36 with a 1.6 iter will be ''hotter'' than a 1.6 liter ''hot hatch'' piece of turd Fiesta or Polo.
E32 750il
Live large or don't live at all.
>>14803268
The issue is not the engine, it's the weight of the body.
There are loads of reasonably fast 1.6 cars.
>>14803323
I love BMW, but you're wrong.
![i14660[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/amVakMx.jpg "i14660[1].jpg")
>>14803323
The 106 GTi disagrees.
>>14802346
To be fair, I am 23 and I understand where they're coming from entirely.... £600 to be second driver on a 1L 16v k11 micra.... surprised it isnt higher seeing as driving this thing makes me want to fucking kill myself.
>>14803344
My car is insured by my dad. I pay about 250€ per year. It's not comprehensive but has all kinds of coverage.
For a comprehensive insurance I'd have to pay about 500€ per year.
The car cost about 14k (1 year used).
If your budget can stretch (perhaps a lot) get a rover mini cooper. Yes they're expensive at the moment, but you're not going to lose any money when you come to sell it and insurance on them is stupidly cheap. I don't even have a year's driving experience and yet somehow on money supermarket "fluxdirect" was quoting under £900 even with a NON-STANDARD ENGINE SWAP declared. Think about it, you could literally be driving around with a 200hp hayabusa mini for your first solo car journey. That is insane
>>14803399
>hey man, don't buy a 147
>get a fucking rover mini
lol
>>14803327
kek
I can only imagine the insurance and maintenance for OP.
>>14802249
Save money for the inevitable maintenance that an Alfa requires. There's a reason it's cheap. Though they are lovely when not broken.
>>14803327
yeah the insurance for op would probably be like 30-40k per year for a 750.
>>14803440
>Save money for the inevitable maintenance that an Alfa requires
nice meem
every car requires maintenance
>>14803323
No.
Just no.
>>14803457
a toyota would need less than an Alfa.
>>14803463
Not it wouldn't.
Every car needs the same periodic maintenance.
And Alfa maintenance is way cheaper than Toyota's.
>>14803459
I`ve owned an E36 316i coupe. All of my friends in their FWD hatches/economy cars were envious as I was drifting on roundabouts on rainy days lol
>>14803488
Drifting on a wet road isn't that hard.
Even a twingo with a 0.9 engine does it.
>>14802334
This, insurance in Scotland is super cheap.
The place is a shithole though and SNP is trying it's best to turn us into an even bigger nanny state than England is.
I want to move to New Zealand after I finish my degree.
>>14803492
I agree that drifting on the wet is easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPo7Wi4N6Bo&nohtml5=False
You can`t do that with FWD hatches though.
>>14803527
You can't drift in the true sense of the term, but you can slide your rear wheels.
/o/ UK meet when?
>>14803542
I'd go to one, but I'd never arrange it. I can only image the sort of faggots that would show up. I'm a fat weeabo neckbeard with a bright yellow MG, and I'm probably one of the more normal people around here.
>>14803562
There`s a bright yellow MGB parked near my home in London, that you?
>>14802264
>BMW E46.
>first car
>My budget's up £1k
OP just get a corsa or fabia, it's not like you have much of a choice.
>>14803590
Nope, MG ZS. It's a Honda Accord but built by MG Rover. I need to kick the firewall to make the dashlight come on.
>>14803601
My 323Ci cost me £600, I sold it 9 months later for £400. E46s are currently bottomed out on price
>>14803608
sure you can get any car in shit condition with 200k miles. and when anything breaks you are absolutely fucked.
>>14803615
Mine had 130,000 miles and it worked great until I crashed it
Nissan Micra.
Absolutely no other options. You won't regret it.
>>14803601
The first E46 I bought costed me 600£, was a 328ci with 240k miles, had some rust but the engine was perfect.
And I just bought a 2003 E46 325i with 110k miles for £720.
E46`s are cheaper than E36s in the UK generally
>>14803440
Isn't that a meme? My grandpa has had an Alfa 156 1.8 for 2 years and nothing major happend yet (don't jinx it)
>>14803245
I was in my third year of driving, second year of driving a 200hp hot hatch. Was involved in a crash. The car is the only reason I survived, and it had a 5 Star. I'd never have anything else but from now.
>>14803717
Well yeah, it's always nice to have a 5 star rating.
>>14803488
>316
>E36
>envious
When are you finishing elementary?
>>14803632
This is objectively the best choice.
You can get a 90s Micra for like 300-500 pounds, and they're the most reliable cars with the cheapest parts to replace.
They just WORK.
>>14803724
Seriously, convinced the Clio saved me. I was in a coma for a week afterwards and I have post traumatic amnesia. But I know I wouldn't be here if it weren't for my little hot Renault.
>>14803746
not to mention that despite being only 50hp from factory they're stupid fun to drive. They're so small and built so basic that you can feel anything and everything, it's an actual driving experience.
If I had a micra i would probably swap in something like an SR16VE and thrash it around like a mad man.
>>14802249
Buy an old Fiesta. Reliable, fun to drive if you fit in them, and they swallow a surprising amount of stuff. Plus it's about as small as you can get that's motorway-safe.
>>14802270
> London
Definitely a Fiesta. Anything bigger and you won't be able to insure it.
>>14802338
>I knew a guy who had to pay £10,000 per year for a BMW, which he crashed in first two months anyway...
Guess what? He's WHY they're so high.
![English_Ford_Puma[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ysQUhtV.jpg "English_Ford_Puma[1].jpg")
>>14804067
How about a Fiesta with a bodykit?
>>14802338
>Insurance in Bongland is a fucking joke
It really isn't as long you're not 17 or living in London, in which case you shouldn't be buying a car anyway.
It's comparable or lower than what the rest of the world is paying.
Can you even get a car that passes MOT for £1k ?
Top Gear used to feature really cheap cars for racing that were purchased for a song because the service for MOT cost more than the car was worth.
>>14804067
I'm a manlet, so I could
>>14804079
My parents used to have a Tigra and I liked the car. Puma is pretty much its US counterpart
>>14804395
The Tigra is an Opel/Vauxhall Corsa with a bodykit though.
>all these faggots in my london
When's the L/o/ndon meet? meet at South Mimms services and we'll do a lap of the M25.
>>14804216
If you take your piece of shit to a shithole givenofucks garage or a big givenofucks chain, you can pass an Emohtee no problem. Just don't take it to people who know what they're doing.
>>14804067
The only sensible post on this thread. Is your mum insuring you, OP? I remember my first insurance policy was about £2K... and that was 12 years ago. I'd imagine things have gone up since then.
>>14804401
Puma was built on fiesta chassis too.
>>14804432
This. Never MOT your car at a franchised dealer, unless you want the next owner to see dozens of stupid advisories when they look up the reg
>>14804508
Yup, nearly everything's interchangeable between the two. Engines, interior, suspension parts, even body panels.
>>14804476
It's worth checking the comparison sites with a bunch of different variables, sometimes the insurance cost formulas don't make a lot of sense. Volvo turbo bricks can sometimes be surprisingly cheap, even the high pressure ones
>>14802341
How is that even possible. Volvo 440s are basically free and you'd have to total couple of new BMWs as collateral damage p.a. to cause havoc worth that much.
>>14804550
This. The insurance company assumes it's a Volvo, therefore anyone driving it has got to be a boring person, therefore the premium goes down regardless of the age.
Top Gear has proven that.
>>14803632
Brittish micra huh?
>>14804395
Puma operates on an entirely different level than Tigra.
>>14802338
>I knew a guy who had to pay £10,000 per year for a BMW,
>which he crashed in first two months anyway...
Yea that's why insurance is so high for young drivers. Because you're all useless and think you aren't.
>>14804650
How so?
>>14804476
Yeah
>>14803738
It was my first car 2 years ago, was in high school back then when everone was driving their moms minivans or some piece of shit golfs.
I've owned 8 different cars since then, currently own a 2004 Mercedes E class, a 2003 BMW 7 series, a 2003 BMW 325i and I bought my gf an E36 318i as her first car.
>>14804670
Can't argue with that. To add insult to injury the idiot that crashed the BMW paid for said car with his Uni savings
>>14804079
Depends on your views of 'fun' versus 'carry up to four mates and some booze'.
But those things are basically a gen3 Fiesta with a 1.8 engine and a body.
Rare, though, compared to the old fiestas.
>>14804216
Can get one with 'long MOT' for £200 if you're willing to put up with a shitbox.
Dealerships pay £100 minimum for old cars, so they'll just stick them on autotrader for twice that in the hopes they'll sell and save them a trip to the scrapyard.
>>14804751
You'll have to use her as a named driver at the very least. Mine gives me a huge discount on insurance.
Also, get breakdown cover.
>>14803245
Clapistani here; I'm guessing that whoever you responded to was implying that you would save on insurance, since that's apparently the big deal in Bongistan.
>>14803498
No don't, we've got enough fucking poms here
>>14805068
Yeah, I was planning on doing that.
Is there a western European equivalent of the stickied image? It would come in handy.
Seriously consider getting a Daihatsu Cuore and chip tune it for a few extra HP because I don't feel like paying too much tax and am poor as shit.
If only there was another sub 800kg car that wasn't underpowered as shit.
>>14805205
Twingo with a Clio RS drivetrain swap and stripped out interior
>>14805205
Fiat 126P
>>14805205
Mk3/4 Golf, Passat B5, Audi 80, Audi A4 B5, Audi A6 C5, BMW E36, Corsa B, Astra F/G, Twingo. There you go.
Let's look what you could easily get for £1,000 that's realistic:
>Mk5/6 Fiesta
There is a bit of a price hike compared to an equivalent Corsa/Clio/whatever, but my first car was a 2005 Fiesta with the Bridgend made 1.25 engine. It's not fast, but it does handle corners better than almost anything.
>Yaris
They're also pretty fun. Very slow, but its safe, and you can keep your foot right down going around anything because you'll never get to speed where you will understeer. Also old people own them so they often have low mileage and smell like mints, not weed.
>Corsa
It will be the C body and it will look great with eBay window tints. Not the best built but you're going to hit things in car parks anyway
>Saxo
A real throwback. It was £6,000 new and came with a years free insurance, but now they get sold every two years to another 17 year old. Small engine, some models don't even come with air con, but insurance is low
>Ka
Only if you're a girl
>Clio
The best looking Clio in the history of ever. Makes a great sound in second gear, and you can fit two people in the boot so it becomes a MPV
>Golf
Any ones you see for this price has been stolen at least once
and that's pretty much it. Pick something that looks the most decent, they all have online forums where someone with the handle of "BIGGAZ" will teach you how to bolt on a turbo, and run it into the ground.
>>14805359
You forgot the glorious Punto
>>14805359
>>Saxo
>A real throwback. It was £6,000 new and came with a years free insurance, but now they get sold every two years to another 17 year old. Small engine, some models don't even come with air con, but insurance is low
Mate of mine is the 11th owner of an 03 Saxo. Seems solid as fuck. But the pedals are really cramped and awkward, the accelerator especially.
Just buy a Civic/E12 Corolla.
>>14805089
Insurance has nothing to do with how safe you are in the car.
It's to do with how often people crash that car, how costly the car and the one you hit is to fix and how shitty your neighborhood is.
I had the depressing experience of living in Coventry for 9 months and my insurance doubled...
>>14805089
A higher safety rating doesn't necessarily mean cheaper insurance, in fact it often the opposite is true. I suppose if you're driving a death trap the assumption is you'll make a special effort not to crash it
>>14805359
What about Puma, or Tigra? I was kinda leaning towards them
>>14805467
Fiesta/Corsa with a bodykit, basically. Trades practicality for style, and in the case of the Puma, the option of a slightly bigger engine and better handling iirc.
>>14805489
Puma looks sexy and can be bought for less than £1k with mileage of less than 100k. Also, slightly bigger engine than Tigra
>>14805089
Nah.
At least where I live, insurance is usually cheaper on cheaper cars which, therefore, means that older cars are cheaper to insure.
Older cars usually equates to a lesser safety rating.
