What is the best engine configuration and why is it inline 6?
>>14792231
V12.
Then comes the i6.
>>14792251
cant forget the v10 though
v12, v10 then i6
1.- 4 rotors
2.- 3 rotors
3.- flat 8
4.- flat 6
5.- then v8
6.- then inline 4
bonus. v12, too expensive though
>>14792261
For fucks sake.
The V10 is the least balanced engine of them all and has no place in between a V12 and i6.
The hierarchy goes V12-I6-V8-V6-V10-I4
Excluding for now the less common V5, R5 and whatnot.
>>14792231
Inline 6s are great for large trucks with long and narrow engine bays, but they're pretty terrible for the typical square shaped engine bay of a car. A v configuration utilizes space much more efficiently.
Aside from being extremely inefficient there's nothing terribly wrong with i6s, but there's really no reason to opt for such an awardly packaged engine when superior engine configurations are available.
>>14792231
>>14792251
inline 6 is literal dogshit though
>>14792275
What is it with having either a straight 5 or a V10 that seems to not be liked. I've heard there are somehow issues but I never fully understood it.
>>14792284
You're either ignorant, trolling, or just stupid.
>>14792302
The design is inherently imbalanced, thus requiring a lot more counterweights with all the negative aspects that has.
You want an engine to be naturally balanced, and the V12 and I6 excell at that.
>>14792312
What about inline four?
>>14792312
you are just a mad inline 6 fangirl
boxer engines are balanced on the first and second order, and arent as tall or long as inline 6's
>>14792326
How about H4?
>>14792341
Use the proper terms, flat 6.
And history alone tells you why flat sixes aren't that widespread. Don't need to waste my time with you.
>>14792349
How about K4?
>>14792353
the thing is, a flat engine is not necessarily a boxer engine
you prob didn't know that, since ur knowledge comes from jalopnik
>aren't that widespread
more succesful in motorsport than inline 6's
>>14792359
But I've never seen K4 anon.
>>14792363
A flat is not an inline.
Take your reststop bathroom rethoric with you and pls leave. Stop making a fool out of yourself.
>>14792384
you are fucking retarded
read my posts again, i never implied a flat engine is an inline engine
>inline 6 fangirls in charge of not being dumb
>>14792363
All boxers are flats.
What happens is you can have a flat with a boxer firing order.
> you're an idiot trying to look like he knows some shit
>>14792389
And so the shitpost begins.
Done replying to you.
>>14792231
>why is it inline 6
Because dat balance tho
>>14792251
Quite a few V12s are literally just 2xI6, though.
Like that glorious toyota one which is just 2x 1JZs together and is capable of running off a single bank in the event of an emergency.
>>14792261
V10s are even worse than V6s, faggot.
>>14792277
There are no superior engine configs, everything else is a compromise in terms of overall efficiency. The space to either side of an inline engine can be used for massive turbo(s) and a well designed intake manifold with long runners, V engines with turbos on the sides tend to be wide enough that you now have to worry about packaging in a completely different area.
>>14792393
>What happens is you can have a flat with a boxer firing order.
well duh
you can't have a boxer V engine
the actual dummy trying to pretend he knows some shit is >>14792353 thinking the correct term for 6 cyl boxers is "flat 6"
>>14792398
>me being a dummy is shitposting
alright
>the correct term for 6 cyl boxers is not "flat 6"
>6 cyl boxers have been historically more succesful than inline 6's
>they are balanced just as inline 6s
>shorter and lower, giving the car better driving dynamics
>>14792399
Enjoy your lack of torsional rigidity.
I6s are the toyota swiss cheese frame of engine configurations
>>14792420
>6 cyl boxers have been historically more succesful than inline 6's
>muh porsche
try again buddy. six cylinder boxers are far outclassed by the more common and more successful I6
I6 MASTER RACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z10Sr13_YLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX1Oo89Glu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1DAe4S8vdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpyPjOBbuxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmtVyfC_bBo
>>14792431
>are far outclassed by the more common and more successful I6
proof?
not online are 6 cyl boxers more succesful than inline 6's, but so are flat 8s compared to inline 8s
>>14792426
Sorry, can't hear you over all the 1500hp
>>14792437
>not online are 6 cyl boxers more succesful than inline 6's, but so are flat 8s compared to inline 8s
what the fuck does "success" mean to you lol
>>14792437
>online
only
>>14792441
winning races?
what else would it mean? it's /o/
>>14792302
An engine with an odd number of cylinders will always have a point at which there is no combustion cycle occurring anywhere in the cylinders for a split second. Due to this lack of force to balance the rotating assembly out at all times, it creates a kind of standing wave in the engine, and therefore feels inherently less refined than say an I6 that looks like a perfect sine wave when firing.
Making a V engine out of an odd number of cylinders per bank yields even more problems because now the secondary piston forces are perpendicular to each other.
>Best of the Inline 6
>Compactness of the V6
The VW VR6 is thee engine.
>>14792448
idiot
>>14792468
>weird ass combustion chambers
>a tripfag replies to one of your posts without permission
>>14792275
i know this is likely not a complete shitpost but i'd like to see the real amount of work lost because of the inferior balancing.
im sure its a lot less than autistic mathematicians would like us to guess it is
>>14792468
one of these in a white stripped down 1992 jetta is one of my fav random cars i've been in
>>14792440
That's cute. How about over 10,000 hp in a package small and light enough to fit in a racecar?
>>14792478
Shhhh it works and it's balanced.
Also 3.6 liters are hnnnggg
>>14792539
That's cute. How about making it run for more than 10 seconds without destroying itself?
>>14792530
Oh fuck yes. Buddy of mine has one in a 1981 GTI. Fucker shit stomps STIs and sounds good doing it.
>>14792353
>And history alone tells you why flat sixes aren't that widespread. Don't need to waste my time with you.
Not the other guy but...
Flat 6s aren't widespread because they're expensive to build and maintain. On top of that Porsche has kind of claimed them as their "thing" so other manufacturer's haven't invested much in their development.
This quote from wikipedia details their better features and explains why they really only work for 'exotic' cars. Pay attention to what it says about front engine cars.
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat-six_engine)
>The configuration results in inherently good balance of the reciprocating parts, a low center of gravity, and a very short engine length. The layout also lends itself to effective air cooling. The shape of the engine suits it better for rear engine and mid-engine designs, where the low center of gravity is an advantage; in front engine designs the width interferes with the ability of the front wheels to steer. However, it is an intrinsically expensive design to manufacture, and somewhat too wide for compact automobile engine compartments, which makes it more suitable for luxury sports cars, cruising motorcycles, and aircraft.[1]
Plus, they can sound fucking bonkers: https://youtu.be/mZISXNoUsVE?t=59
>>14792583
ahaha, yuuuuup
near perfect harmonics make the i6 bretty gud
>he doesn't drive a W6 engine
