So my wife wants to buy a Suburban next year. Basically to fit our kids and others when we travel. Is there another option i should look at or is the suburban a good choice?
>>14789399
Do you have 5 kids?
>>14789399
kill yourself
and your wife.
Buy a sporty station wagon so both of you could enjoy it
>>14789406
we have 3 and her younger sister lives with us also, we travel a lot and are looking for something comfortable for long drives
>>14789399
Volvo wagon with the 3rd row
>>14789399
It's perfect if you live in the countryside, have 5 kids, 3 Golden retrievers and need to tow your 10000lbs boat regularly. Otherwise kill your wife and your kids because you shouldn't have reproduced.
>>14789399
sequoia?
>>14789413
considered getting a wagon but the wife is not a fan
>>14789433
have you driven one how are they?
They are fine.
My cousins love suburbans
They replace em after 250K miles and keep buying new ones.
>>14789408
This deserves serious consideration.
>>14789399
The Suburban is your best bet just for the size. Seats 8 and there's still room in the back for your shit. The Tahoe, Expedition, and Sequoia lose that cargo space in the back with all the seats filled.
Also, get a new black one so you can drive your family around in a big ass goofy looking hearse
just pick up one of these for like $1500 and tell your stupid wife to fuck off
They're big smooth and powerful. It's the longest running model in auto history for a reason.
>>14789798
becausse murikan men are insecure and have small penises and the women are domineering bitches obsessed with safety and every body is fat ? yeah sound's like the 'MURICA i know
They're a nice drive OP, powerful and fucking huge. But the price tag on them is crazy, and any trim beside the LTZ feels like shit.
>>14789835
someones awful jelly
>>14789399
get a used one
got a clean 03 yukon xl. rides smooth as anything. doesn't have all the computer screens, i guess, but it does have dual climate whatever and seat warmers and all that.
it's a truck, let someone else eat that crazy pricetag depreciation
>>14789399
I have a mid-90s Suburban Silverado with the 454 and four wheel drive and for what it's worth I absolutely love it! These rigs are definitely large though, and the gas mileage even in the newer Suburbans are pretty crap compared to the competition. They are so large they can be difficult to park in small parking lots, but they are incredibly comfortable with an absurd amount of room on the inside for both cargo and passengers.
I've removed the third row of seating in my Suburban and basically treat the vehicle as if it's a quad cab pickup with a canopy because I use the rear area for dry storage and transporting a lot of crap.
Oh and another thing, if you remove the third row seating you can camp in there without any problem. I'm 6' tall and I just laid down in the back and I could stretch all the way out. With a sleeping bag and a foam bad below me it was actually really comfortable too. The 4WD and 454 combination that mine has is great for doing some intermediate off roading as well.
TLDR:
Excellent rigs for hauling people, cargo, towing, going camping, cruising down the highway, and even going off road. Bad vehicles for driving around in big cities and in narrow streets, and horrible at fitting in small parking lots.
>Mine is on the right in the picture.
>>14789449
why?
>>14789835
It was made before anyone cared about safety, only the ultimate do it all vehicle.
>>14789849
why would i be jealous of giant landbarge that drives like a dumpster when i have refined european luxery for the same price
>>14789449
Grounds for divorce.
>>14789921
>BMW
>Same price as a Suburban in the US
No Anon, I don't think so. BMWs are in a completely different bracket than Chevrolet. Now, a GMC Yukon Denali might be closer to BMW pricing.
>>14789921
compare to shitburban's shitty interiour full of plasticks and blocky built in a barn
makes manlets with small cacks feel like their king shit
>>14789921
because you came in here acting like you were
>>14789946
bmw 5er costs the same as a brand new cuckburban
>>14789950
enjoy your 100kph highways cuck
>>14789921
both seem to retain the same value after 10 years...that is to say, none
>>14789946
They start at 50 grand, by the time the missus stops checking options you'll be looking at $80,000.
>>14789399
Unless you're going to be towing a boat or camper, just get a 3 row crossover. You'll look like a twat but you'll save on gas and if you go with something like the Ford Flex, you'll get insane resale value.
>>14789835
>>14789921
>europoors just don't get it
>>14789423
Do you get to fuck the sister?
>>14789399
>wife
>our kids
you fucked up
>I just need to haul people comfortably
>for long distance
>never leaving pavement
>only one person mentions a minivan
Seriously?
>>14789947
That looks comfy as fuck. I love hueg consoles like that.
I dunno man, I sat in a new loaded 3 series and 5 series and they didn't feel that special. I read about how high quality they are, but the ones I sat in didn't seem to live up to it.
>>14790111
No man or woman WANTS to drive a fucking minivan, hence why crossovers were created. Driving a minivan is fucking demoralizing. Minivan's also don't have much storage room with the 3rd row up.
>>14789454
The tundra is worst in segment. So an suv based on the tundra is also worst in segment. They get shit mpg because they use Toyota's ancient 5.7 v8.
You should buy a minivan. It's exactly what you need unless you also need to tow more 3000 pounds. Don't let your wife cuck you even more into getting something more expensive and less efficient for
>muh image
>>14789399
Let her buy it with her own money if she wants a fucking SUV so much.
What the fuck is wrong with husbands today.
>>14790191
i want to drive a minivan, but im also jung and want to drive around with my friends, so slightly different situation
>>14789449
you tell her you're not a fan of her vagina
>>14790217
Friends don't let friends be seen in Minivans.
>>14790222
Trips have spoken, op has to deliver.
>>14790230
but friends love to make trips with other freinds
>>14789837
Wife just got a good paying job which is the reason she wants a new suv . Thanks for the advice anon
>>14789876
Don't know she says they're ugly.
>>14790301
tell her how much money a minivan/wagon would save over an suv in fuel and taxes. Also explain how many shoes or whatever she likes she could buy with that money
>>14789943
When we first met I had an avant wagon. She told me straight up she didnt like wagons.
>>14790064
I wish but she seems to only be into niggers so no thanks
>>14790191
Exactly we both agreed we are not getting a minivan.
>>14790284
>just got hired
>lol time to go out and buy a massive $60.000 gas guzzler
what is it with americans having no financial sense whatsoever?
>>14790313
>>14790325
>>14790313
marriage was a piss poor choice then
>>14790214
She makes twice as much as me so yeah she's buying it
>>14790341
nice to know you're the voiceless bitch in the relationship
have fun riding in your alpha's big pink suburban
>>14789408
>>14789710
samefag
>>14790341
May I ask youse occupations?
>>14790336
whats with europoors bashing every decision americans make
we never think of you
>>14790350
Well the pussy is good and she takes care of me so I'm good thanks anon
>>14790362
shit, most americans can't point to europe on a map
>>14789835
The only reson that I am looking at a 'burban is that almost nobody makes 4wd vans.
>>14790335
Faggot. It's exactly what you need.
>>14790367
>she takes care of me
Thanks for making me sad ;_;
Seems like you've got yourself a jackpot
>>14790367
keep taking it up the ass with a smile
>>14790284
what is she, a pharmacist?
>>14790354
I'm an electritian and shes a district manager at a credit union
>>14789871
>4wd with the 454
Noice, I've been looking at used (either GMT400 or square body) suburbans, but every one I see with a 454 is rwd.
>>14790400
Not bad at all m8
>>14790400
>I'm an electritian
now we know why she needs to take care of you
quit being a conformist bitch suckered into the suv bandwagon and buy a god damn wagon. i am tired of seeing all these god damn big ass suvs on these streets
>>14790370
i literally just said we dont care about you. what makes you think we care where you live
>>14789921
>refined european luxery
>bmw
The Ford taurus of muslim occupied Germany
Not impressed
>>14790416
But....I live in Texas...
>>14789946
1.) Yukon denali is literally just a rebadged suburban
2.) A brand new suburban absolutely will cost as much as a new beamer.
seriously i don't get this
you could either have a sporty station wagon with two folding seats in the back when you need them or a super practical and spacious minivan that doesn't chug fuel, but instead you choose a giant bloated station wagon/less practical van because muh image or whatever
>>14790380
i'm sure that 4wd will come in handy the once or twice a decade it snows in dallas
>>14790336
>be yuropoor
>only buy 1L diesel wagons off of Craigslist for less than 1500 yurobux
>>14790425
A brand new suburban cost as much as a 5 series with no extra options or trims
>>14790362
because you buy stupid boring awful pointless useless shitcars and often spend tons of money (in many cases more than you actually have) in the process
>>14790448
I said myself, I am not OP and live in western michigan, it snows 6 months out of the year.
>>14790461
whats with europoors bashing every decision americans make
>>14790448
Btw that wasnt op I don't live in Texas and don't need 4x4 where I live
You should probably think over what you actually need from a family vehicle and whether its economical to daily drive one. If you legitimately have more than 3 kids plus family and actually need the space offered by a large-sized SUV like the suburban, then I'd say it's okay.
Whats not okay is if your wife wants it for social status or "being safe on the road". Going on shopping sprees or taking 2 kids to soccer practice aren't valid excuses and if you rarely take more than 4/5 people at a time then you've wasted money on a gas guzzling land barge for no good reason.
>>14790450
5 series starts at $50.2k, burban starts at $49.7k. They are basically the same price.
>>14790449
>be burgerfat
>buy """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""sports""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" car with a 6 liter truck engine for $80 grand because your small penis
>get outdragged by a beaner in a stanced civic
>take a corner too fast
>die in a ball of fire
>>14790469
becausr we're better than you and we know it (as do you but you've deluded yourself with murrican ecxeptionalism brainwashing)
>>14790498
this is /o/, not /int/
>>14790478
That's what I've been telling her, I have a Silverado and with a suburban we would be going through gas like crazy. A buddy of mine just got a new pilot and have been trying to convince her to think about one of those
>>14790507
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>>14790503
butthurt
>>14790492
pulling burban prices out of your ass son starting trim is 53k and looks like garbage
the burban ends up being about 6 grand cheaper but overall looks worse and gets less mileage than an x5
>>14790498
>and we know it
>>14790498
Once again, yuros obsess about americans, americans can't find yurop on a map because you are just that irrelevant. This is our planet and you just live here.
>>14790507
The only other reason would be if you need greater passenger capacity than your Silverado PLUS towing capacity on a regular basis.
Maybe you could try a Subaru Tribeca on her?
>three rows
>not xbox huge like the Suburban
>better gas mileage
>big enough to satisfy her stupid "muh safety" qualifications
Or you can show her videos of large SUV rollovers plus moose tests to scare her off of big SUVs.
>>14790536
if you load both of them up
Toyota forerunner
>>14790536
>out of my ass
You mean the chevy website?
I pulled the *starting at* price for both the 5 series and the suburban from the manufacturers websites. I'm sorry that it conflicts with your apparent belief that bmws are more expensive and therefore better than chevys.
>gas milage
Gas is 10 memhet dickings per liter over here, we don't give a shit. We traded fuel economy for towing, seating, and cargo space.
>>14790507
I think you really have to lay down the hammer and tell her to start thinking of other SUV's.
Honestly a Honda Pilot or Toyota Highlander are much more sensible choices IMO.
>>14790574
She's also considering a Durango but haven't driven one, heard they're not that great . I told her from the start that a suburban is kinda over the top and won't fit in our garage, I personally wish she would consider a pilot or a grand Cherokee
>>14790574
If he wants to road trip with 6+ people, you're pretty much talking about either a suburban, an excursion (if they even still make them), or more ideally a minivan which OP doesn't want.>>14790574
>>14790599
>FCA
Pls no
>>14790625
fuck off faggot memer
I'd buy a Suburban if money wasn't a problem desu
highlander nigger
everything a suburban wishes it was
>>14789399
Why don't you get a Escalade? Either go full nigger or buy something nice like an X5 or a GL
>>14789399
New suburbans are pretty great, as long as you don't mind the poor fuel economy.
You could go full suburb family and get a crossover also.
>>14790678
Because a escalade starts at 90k compared to a suburban that starts under 50k
if you were gonna get the ltz, get a Yukon xl Denali or a base escalade esv as those have the 6.2l v8 (i think it's the same block as the current corvette engines)
>>14789423
>we have 3
I hope at least one of them is actually yours
>>14789399
Other options you could/should check out anon: Ford Transit, any minivan, Toyota Highlander, Ford Flex. Don't get a Suburban if you don't have to. They're huge, and they drink a ton of gas. I was one of five kids, and we always traveled in a Grand Caravan growing up. It was a bit tight, but we never had any issues.
>>14790702
As far as I know they're all mine
>>14790711
the youngest is really the bank manager's
but at least you can afford a suburban now!
>>14790734
She is the bank manager
>>14790734
>>14790755
then his statement is true!
>>14790755
there's always cum dripping from the higher rung on the ladder
>>14790656
Lel highlander has a one of th tiniest 3rd row seating in the whole platform, literally just a folding back with almost un existent leg room, plus the trunk ends up with almost none space for storage
>>14790310
SUVs are exempted from gas guzzler tax
>suburban
the fuck do you need something that big for? is your dick too small, so you need something to replace it.
fuckin cuck you need to invest in European luxury
pic related: me and my car. ps it has 400whp, seats 5 in handstitched leather, and will retain its value (unlike your ameribarge)
>>14790779
Ok virgin
>>14790797
Kek
>>14790798
mad cuck
>>14790797
where is this, hungary?
>>14790852
Stop being edgy and go fuck your fleshlight bruv
>>14790797
The placement of that 7 gets my ocd going
>>14790886
>edgy
dont go into debt OP buy something used or save up
>>14789947
I'm 6"0 7.5x5.5 and I drive a suburban
What now faggot
I don't understand all the comments about the Suburban being huge. It's the same size as a extended cab short box pickup, slightly shorter actually.
>>14790982
>6"0 7.5x5.5
lol sure you are
>>14791009
not all of us are fat shitmericans,,many of use are happy wih a vw golf
>>14790632
FCA being trash isn't a meme you mongoloid. Its what happens when you merge the american company known for the shittiest build quality, with the european company known for the shittiest build quality.
>>14791069
My point was nobody says anything about driving a full size truck as a grocery getter but as soon as suburban is mentioned things change.
>>14789449
Is she helping pay for it ?
>>14791081
If you've ever owned a grand Cherokee you know how well built they are . My dad bought me a a 97 gc when I was 17 and that fucker lasted 8 year until i totaled it. It had almost 300k miles on it. Now I have a 2013 and will probably get another one when it stops working
>>14790599
New Durango and Grand Cherokee are the exact same thing.
>>14789775
i really like these fat nigger mover mobiles... no joke i think this is one of the best looking vans. how reliable are these things?
>>14791126
Read the goddamn thread dude
>she just got promoted
>makes more than op
>wants a burban, op doesn't
>op will get/do whatever she wants and like it, cuz sugar momma
>>14791126
She's going to pay for it not me . Just asking if it's a good suv and if there are better choices
>>14791095
Because why would you use a full-size truck for grocery getting or family duties anyways? They exist for hauling big objects so their size is warranted, not so much related to SUV's.
>>14791179
Its a Chrysler product so not very.
>>14791179
Fat nigger mover mobiles . Top kek
>>14791150
90s jeeps wouldn't quit, but they were never nice vehicles.
>>14791234
When is the last time you saw anything in the back of a pickup truck?
Suburbans are fucking great. Where's Trailer Trashed when we need him?
>>14789958
You obviously haven't tried to price a used Suburban since gas was $4.40/gallon.
GM BOF SUVs have better than average resale value.
>>14791295
I actually see mexicans make use of their truck beds quite often.
But if it's anyone else who isn't working for job that requires it, never.
>>14789835
Go get cucked by migrants
>>14791295
Everyday with my ladders and tools
>>14789921
HAHAHHA
BMWs are like the international vehicle of insecure men with tiny penises
>>14791191
There really aren't any better choices than a Suburban if you want Suburban space and Suburban towing capacity.
Get a LTZ with the Magnetic Ride Control (the same system GM licenses to Ferrari), it makes it super comfy and eliminates body roll and wallowing.
Plus it kneels to reduce step in or load height.
>>14789399
look into picking up one of the 80s square body burbs in mint shape, toss in a gear vendors and you've got a perfect ride.
if you or she won't go for old then there's nothing wrong with a new burb, get a higher trim package, they're all over the place and reliable, comfy, spacious.
if she only just got a job and you guys don't have at least a third of the vehicles cost to drop down upfront then save some fucking money so you're not upside down in a year or two or three on a 20% lease trading it in because expensive.
and for the love of god, don't stick nigger wheels on it.
>>14790498
Lol euros Pls call when you can buy firearms without 3 different licenses
>>14791336
go get cucked by lettuce pickers
>>14791355
umad i own an ultimate driving machine an u own a ultimate bull transporting mavhine
>>14791381
atleasyt i dont get shot while i watch a movie :)
>>14791365
Was planning on putting at least 20k on a down payment plus we have good credit so getting a low interest rate shouldnt be an issue. wouldn't ruin a suburban with 26 inch nigger rims
>>14791415
>""""""""""ultimate"""""""""" driving machine
> worse EPAS than a Camaro
>>14789449
Do you let your wife control your life?
>>14791929
why is this deleted?
Are you towing?
Are you going over rough terrian?
Do you like burning as much fuel as possible?
If you answered no to all 3, what you need is a MINIVAN. They're spacious, comfortable, luxurious, and well-equipped. And considering they are not exempt from gas guzzler tax, they do get good mileage. There are still players left in the minivan game. There's always the original (at least for the US) of Chrysler and their T&C or Dodge Grand Caravan. If FCA leaves a bad taste in your mouth, there's the Honda Odyssey. If you want an AWD option, Toyota's got your covered with the Sienna. There are also more.
If you're concerned with your kids, Minivans are frequently considered of the most safe vehicles on the road and have many systems to try to steer your dumb ass away from a collision, and if an accident is unavoidable, your best bet to survive one is in a minivan as airbags can pop out of everywhere, and bodies are designed to absorb crash energy and not deform into your kid's heads. Also, with being lower to the ground, Minivans can handle abrupt maneuvers better than SUV's and have less of a chance to roll.
Convenience equipment? Oh you know it. Most minivans come with all sorts of goodies. Things like automatically opening doors/liftgate, refrigerators (small but fridges nontheless), seats that can fold away without making everything high up. TV screens are also a common option, with newer models having more inputs.
"but I need to haul things around inside." THEN DO IT. Fold down the seats and hey, it's a cargo van with windows! "but SUV's have more truck space with the seats up." This isn't the 90's, stop thinking of short-wheelbase minivans, they don't even make those anymore.
Holy shit I'm closing in on maximum post size. Point is, SUV's are just for muh image, and even insurance rates reflect that (minivans are much cheaper to insure). You don't need the offroad or tow capability of an SUV as much as you tell yourself, it's just a waste.
>>14791998
I realized I fucked up my intro. Also as I read more I realized I had to change it to add more, and delete things that ran on for no reason. Consider that post a rough draft.
Get a Range Rover.
>>14792033
Ha!
Holy shit, you scared me op, my parents were considering buying a suburban, with my mom pushing it more than my dad. I don't know what would be worse, finding out your parent goes on 4chan or finding out your kid goes on 4chan.
>we travel a lot and are looking for something comfortable for long drives
Consider this: Virtually any vehicle you get will be comfortable for you and your woman, the kids gotta learn to deal with whatever they get. One of the many things destroying America is kids being too comfortable, why strike out on your own when papa makes sure you and your half dozen other siblings each have their own reclining seat with climate control and entertainment center?
Pathfinder with 3rd row?
>>14789399
My parents had one when I was a kid for road trips. They'd hook up the trailer and we'd travel over most of the western US by the time we stopped on family vacations. It was nice as it could carry quite a few people or stuff, or with just my family, parents got the front, sister got the middle with the one seat folded down and I took up the back seat. Cooler and snacks and the dog on the folded down 1/3 seat of the second row, pile of books in the rows to entertain ourselves and 2-3 days of driving to a destination would fly by.
It ended up being my DD for a while, I'd use it to haul lumber, drywall, mulch, dirt, loads to the dump, pull out trees, stumps, fenceposts, I could put a few friends in with the third seat out and carry bikes or skis or snowboards in the back and on top, or gear in the back and kayaks on top. Thing was brutal in the snow too, would climb iced up roads and plow through stuff that the honda passport my friend had (with snow tires to boot) would spin out in, and I just had the RWD one with basic all weather tires.
I wouldn't touch a new suburban after test driving one, it handled like it was trying to pretend to be a car, the price was astronomical and the leather interior made it something that lost the core of what it could do as a truck. I'd recommend a van honestly, even if you're going to tow something light. The suburbans are getting more carlike and losing their truck side, you'd be better off with something else if you dealt with more off the paved road stuff. I'd go with a Previa and get the AWD supercharged version. It'll haul your stuff and your kids fine, unless you need the newest vehicle around.
>>14789921
>german
>refined
LMAO go to bed hanzel
>>14790656
Highlander is a cuye ute crossover unibody no lowrange no real towing capacity
>>14792114
>buying a nissan willingly
Suburban is bretty cool guy. Huge fuel tank and more cargo capacity/tow capacity/ than anything else made. Its still a proper suv not a crossover. Not keen on the current modelsnwith all the luxury bs but all new cars jave too much stuff like that in them imo.
>>14789427
This
>>14789399
This
>>14792525
Not in the same size class as a Suburban, but still a pretty sweet ride.
>>14792635
You do at least have the seven seats
>>14789449
She and Tyrone need a lot of space for when he puts his anaconda into your wife's pretty pink asshole while your at work slaving away for Mr.Shekelstein.
>>14789399
How about this? Don't know too much about them, but they are almost everywhere I go.
>>14792639
The Suburban is available with 8, and has significant cargo room without having to fold the back 3.
>>14792940
Perennial segment loser. GM has a 70% market share in full size BOF, because they have lower cost of ownership, higher resale, and better performance.
>>14791279
>>14791179
My sides
>>14792968
That's a big truck
>>14789399
Subaru Sambar
>>14789871
>camping
>off road
exactly why I want one
>>14791180
Plot twist:
OP is actually talking about his mom
>>14793278
What year is that? Looks dope
>>14793408
Late 90's I would guess by the look of it.
Pretty good generation for them, not too car like but not too old truck like, can be enjoyed by most people.
new explorer is legit. seriously the only complaint is from people who say its unwieldy cause they are women who cant drive.
>>14791179
>how reliable are these things?
To go against /o/ and not meme on you:
The good: Keep up with the fluds and oil changes and the Chrysler engines in that gen and the one after it (3.3 and larger V6s) will run forever, mine was at 350k and still going strong. The Mitsubishi engines are generally worse for wear and harder to work on. The 3.3 is peppier than you'd expect for a soccer mom van, lots of space inside even without the stow-and-go seats, the rear hatch opens wayyyyy up and the bumper is way down low so it's easy to get shit in and out, AWD is an option if you want that for some reason. Always go for the long wheelbase variants. Interior is cozy but roomy, delicious column shift and buttons and knobs, no infotainment shit or Japanese backwards window switches here. Seats aren't pretty but lay totally flat so you can sleep on 'em if you don't want to just use the middle row.
The bad: The transmissions are made of glass and will either last forever or explode at 100k every time. Exhaust will rip off immediately. Window motors go bad and if they don't die entirely, will lead to windows taking two minutes to just go up or down.
The very bad: Third gens like that will rust like a fucking Datsun if you live in a salt state. There's also a really awful design flaw where rain gets funneled into the engine bay and collects on top of the front strut towers until they completely rust out and your front struts come through the hood. That was kind of fixed on the fourth gen but for third gens they give you a plate to mount on top of the tower and tell you good luck. The side door channels can also collect water and rust. The underside between the rear wheels acts like a big cup to hold water and will rust. Did I mention they rust?
