>>14763379
You nailed it dude!
>>14763379
pretty good job friend
You're pretty good.
>>14763379
Such wow
>>14763379
Now all that's left is to fix the roof.
Its too 90s Taurus bubbly.
>>14763434
roof's fine, gives a really cool panoramic sunroof effect that goes all the way front to back, not to mention it's p good visibility with relatively small B and C pillars.
>>14763379
It's obviously some kind of statement. People will come to accept it in no time
>>14763434
This.
Roof makes it look like a stretched Google car.
>>14763478
I hadn't realized this before but why is there no speed gauge at the steering wheel?
Do I really have to look to the side of me to know how fast I'm going?
You could have given us a speed gauge least.
>>14763493
>needing to monitor your speed
>in a car with autopilot as a standard feature
>>14763490
looks fine 2 me senpai
>>14763493
speedo is on the top left of the LCD screen
supposedly the designers internally like it a lot since the speed's in your peripheral and easy to just glance at
>>14763469
It's 10 mm too high, and too round.
Reminds me of the 5-Series GT.
>>14763379
>>14763434
>>14763507
>>14763499
And how well does that work if you're not driving on the highway or a major road.
I still have my doubts about autopilot.
Some roads can look really confusing to us humans, how do you expect cars to do it?
I'm sure it works fine in suburbia but what about roads in more historical cities you often find in Europe.
Google car can't even drive properly outside previously mapped roads.
I'm sure all Tesla cars collect shittons of data though.
But even if people can just download the newer updates, does he really want to future proof his car that much?
It wouldn't be the first time a company blunders by doing so.
>>14763514
Yeah but you could worked a digital speed gauge in the steering wheel or something. It wouldn't ruin the design.
>>14763514
>supposedly the designers internally like it a lot since the speed's in your peripheral and easy to just glance at
You've never driven one of these, have you?
Have you even driven a car before?
Protip it does not work that way. This design is shit. S H I T.
>>14763582
hon
>>14763585
What's your point? That shits even worse. I passed my driving exam in that hunk of shit no less.
>>14763493
The new bmws have holograms. It probably projects speed and time on to your front windshield in front of you.
>>14763578
>Yeah but you could worked a digital speed gauge in the steering wheel or something. It wouldn't ruin the design.
they're going for minimalism and horizontal mirroring, i think.
to that end, a HUD would work extremely well since it doesn't physically impact the interior and it's only visible when the car is on
>>14763602
Even their heads up display is loathed by many. Tesla killed their business with this shit tier Apple inspired car.
>>14763602
>>14763603
HIVE MIND
>>14763602
Cool, but how does it look in bright daylight?
>>14763592
>hunk of shit
>>14763603
see, this is a good hud, it's what's on the ATS. decent colors, sharp graphics, and does a bunch of stuff like showing the current music track and showing navigation direction arrorws
>>14763603
>they're going for minimalism and horizontal mirroring, i think.
>car that is literally designed for style over practicability
That sounds just wonderful. Where do I pay?
>>14763611
I've driven the new I8. I actually really like it.
>>14763603
And I will be surprised if it ends up shipping without a HUD, at the very least as an option.
/o/ thinks all EV fans are blithering idiots, but Tesla's already received plenty of negative feedback about the dash.
>>14763618
i believe they're going for a "if you're not using it, it should not be visible" mentality. notice along the center console those two circle things? those are spring loaded cupholders i bet, like whats in the volkswagen phaeton, you push your drink down into it and it becomes a cupholder. there's also doors for two huge storage cubbies
>>14763615
It works fine. Nice and crisp just as it is at night.
>>14763618
Would you trust this to fly you to the moon?
>>14763620
Until BMW change their dumbfuck gauge color from red to a less obtrusive color they can fuck off with any of their shitty cars. I drive to feel comfy not to be assaulted on my vision.
Drive that POS at night and tell me you enjoy red glare into your eyes. Fucking retards.
>>14763635
Red is the best color for preserving night vision and you are an idiot.
>>14763631
>notice along the center console those two circle things? those are spring loaded cupholders i bet, like whats in the volkswagen phaeton, you push your drink down into it and it becomes a cupholder
How is any of this a revolution? Every modern car out there hides shit like that. The point is cup holders being invisible does not impair my driving.
Not having a speedometer in my direct view does.
>>14763632
Ok, I can live with that.
god I fucking hate tesla.
this grill is screaming... SCREAMING "look at me, my Electric Vehicle Doesn't Need a Radiator or Airflow because It's Powered by Electric Energy"
meanwhile elon musk is getting richer and richer from his rare earth metals china partnerships while the US government gifts him the tax money we paid for pennies on the dollar
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>14763635
I don't know what you're talking about. It's just like it is at night during the day. Your being over dramatic.
>>14763633
No and judging by their track record I would be right.
>>14763642
didn't say shit about ti being revolutionary, i just kinda like it.
for me, the model 3 is
>mixed feelings, the car
lots of good ideas, some FUCKING TERRIBLE ones
>>14763641
>Red is the best color for preserving night vision and you are an idiot.
top fucking lel this is what BMW turds actually believe.
>>14763654
>Nit picking the speedometer.
You must drive a Honda Civic.
>>14763646
>>14763654
You're objectively wrong, though. Try actively learning something that wasn't in an /o/ memepost sometime.
>>14763611
>Killed their business by copying the business model of one of the most successful businesses in the world.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
>>14763661
I'm not nit picking, I'm pointing out that red is a hostile color and 90% of human beings do not enjoy staring at glowing red colors. This is literally scientifically proven. Green and blue are the opposite. That's why traffic lights go red when you should slam the fucking brakes, not yellow or green. Because red gets your attention way better than any other color.
Now you're telling me glowing red dials are somehow great when you're trying to pay attention to the road at night.
>>14763671
Sure thing you mincy ass faggot.
>>14763676
>what works for throwaway phones works for cars lol
>>14763677
It's well known among people who have to preserve low light vision, ie amateur astronomers and such. It's a literal biological fact. You're just spouting "MUH EMOTIONS"
>>14763703
No it isn't.
>>14763379
Downgraded aerodynamics.
>>14763434
Interior (the dashboard) is only that needs a fix.
>>14763911
>Downgraded aerodynamics.
Doesn't matter. It looks better.
>>14763970
It does matter. Inferior aerodynamics means reduced range.
>>14763469
>relatively small B and C pillars.
I think they're as big as usual nowadays. Seems like 3/4 of the pillars are hidden between glass and only a smaller part is in the color of the car
>>14763976
That small increase in drag is going to barely make any difference in the range.
>>14763970
It looks less functional so it looks worse.
>>14763995
Having a giant wall that completely destroys the flow of the car (and the air klek) is far worse, and looks far less functional, makes the designers look like they can't understand aerodynamics AND design, and just copied the current modern trend of huge front grills and took them out just to be hipsters.
Functionality definitely wasn't what they were after.
>>14764053
Are you talking about this photoshop?
>>14764077
I am talking about the about the actual car in that post.
>>14763615
It works just fine during the day. Even the HUD GM used in the 90s had no problem with daytime use, so I cant imagine 20 year newer tech would be any worse
>>14764085
Aerodynamics looks good on that car (not the photoshop, there shouldn't be unfunctional stuff in a good design). I'm not a fan of Teslas but I can't imagine how that car could look any better (talking about the exterior).
>>14764053
>modern trend of huge front grills and took them out just to be hipsters
I see a big oldschool style bumper.
>>14764116
Just front bumper round.
Looks better, and has better aerodynamics, the way it is now, it has a bunch of empty space that normally would be used for fake grill, and it's just as bad in terms of functionality.
>>14763646
No grille == lower coefficient of drag == longer range
>>14764138
Just make the*
>>14764134
How can you not see this huge ugly thing?
>>14764138
Round bumper would be worse for aerodynamics. Therefore it would look less functional and therefore it wouldn't look better.
That bumper isn't flat. It a bit pointy pointed upwards and you can see where the air goes from there. For you logic the round bumper would be even flatter.
If you feel like a such an engineer, buy one and design your own bumper. Then test them both and you will be famous (in some way).
>>14764149
There is no need for a (bigger) grille.
>>14764182
I see it. It's called a bumper. Cars used has those.
>>14764211
had*
>>14764211
>no huge fake grill space
>still looks good
>better aerodynamics
See, that's how you do design right.
I don't need to downgrade myself to an engineer to test out basic fluid dynamics.
>>14763704
"Red light works best because it is less efficient than white light at breaking down the iodopsin and rhodopsin that allow your eye to see in the dark."
http://www.telescope.com/Articles/Equipment/Binoculars/Seeing-in-the-Dark/pc/9/c/192/sc/195/p/99833.uts
you fucking moron
i'm not even that anon who your dumbass is trying to prove wrong
there's a reason why they use red lights around telescopes, so your eyes can fucking adjust to the dark
Halogen lamps are better for the day road.
>>14763635
It's not even red it's closer to Amber.
>>14763379
>he put the Model X grill on the 3
Pretty lazy, but the end product looks better than the real thing.
>>14765104
The 3 is still in concept phase IIRC, it might change closer to the release date of 2017.
>>14763611
>Killed there business
>already 200k preorders
Ok bro
>put grill + HUD from Model S
>redesign the interior or allow for improved options
>give me a bunch of psychical controls
That's honestly all I want, how hard is this for them to comprehend.
>>14764292
Yes, I'm a Porsche fan myself.
>better aerodynamics
It's useless to argue with you. What are you comparing? Both of these car's aerodynamics are made for their designs which are completely different.
>no huge fake grill space
Are you blind? Basically all the front of the bumper is grill opening because it has to be there. Not only the design styling is different but also the proportions. Tesla is higher than the Porsche. So what is your solution? Make it longer and more pointy? It's not a train. Oh yeah, you think that the bumper has to be round and there is no point to think about that it wont work with the lower part so well.
>>14763602
Didn't the 240sx have that back in the early 90s?
>>14765199
First company to have it was Pontiac on their Firebirds IIRC.
>>14763478
>>14763582
>>14763585
This is a terrible position for the instrument cluster.
>>14763499
>>in a car with autopilot as a standard feature
i don't think its AP standard but rather than AP ready. I remember reading somewhere (this morning) that implied the new tesla doesn't come with AP standard but has all the necessary equipment. Im guessing it has all the sensors and wiring installed and the actual AP computer/module/box/thing is an accessory.
>>14763633
Youre an idiot if you believe they just take TVs from Walmart and make them a display.
>>14763582
You don't have to look though your arm over the steering wheel at 12 o'clock or when turning. So yes, somewhat. It's not good, but not inherently bad either
>>14763434
>>14763602
Cool beans, what an innovative BMW technology!
Easier to see this one in the daytime.
>>14763602
WHAT, NO WAY
I valet cars, the HUD is amazing in most of them. Even the worst ones are still good.
>>14765279
Obviously. Longer eye/head moving distance. Not the best position because of comfort and safety reasons.
>>14763654
but that is fact you idiot
>>14763641
I doubt that.
>green lighting - the best lighting
There is a good reason why it's the most common plane dash lighting color.
>>14763635
>>14763654
Red is the best color for preserving night vision. pilots use flashlights with red filters (or just red leds) at night when they do their preflight checks on the ground. The military used issues flash lights with red filters for night vision preservation. Not so much any more since nvgs are common place.
White and green light is the worst. Getting flashed with a white or green light leaves you seeing a spot for way longer than a red light.
>>14765483
because the eye is most sensitive to green. Night vision goggles are green because of this.
there's two sides of the coin for this issue. On one side you want your dash to be visible so you can see your indications clearly; so green being the color that the eye is most sensitive to works great. On the other side you don't want the dash to be so visible and vibrant that they distract or dazzle the driver every time they glance. So after the momentary glance at the speedo you don't want to still see the numbers burned into your vision when you look back ahead. Red light doesn't cause the pupil to constrict as quickly as green or white light thus reducing the time it takes for your pupil to return to is normal size for night vision. It also has less of a dazzling effect than compared to white and green light.
saab must have understood this since most of their later models had a setting that dimmed or turn off all of the dash lights except for the speedo.
but all cars have some sort of dimming feature so it doesn't really matter what color the lights are and it also comes down to personal pref. Most new fords let you pick the color of the dash light through the infotainment system. So you can find the color that you prefer. I would go green at it's brightest setting during the day and at night I would go red at med brightness.
>>14765483
Sorry to burst in, but hnnnnngh...that interior never fails to get me going.
>>14765666
calm down satan
>>14765645
You are right but the the green light really feels nice in night. There is the ''night panel'' function that I never use and there is an option to dim the lighting but I also don't use that. I've always imagine that the red could be most unpleasant for eyes but now I realized that green is one of my favorite colors and I really like Saabs. So yeah, guess you have to find what's best for you.
>>14765666
Satan wouldn't lie.
Don't forget the front mounted tablet.
>>14765666
die
>>14763490
"no"
>>14765362
oh god what the fuck
>>14763592
being french, you are obviously blind to how based french design is
>>14765720
I didn't use it a lot initially either, but then I found out that I just noticed more in certain states of mind when there wasn't as much to try and focus on in the cabin. It's really good for just cutting down on distractions.
I mean, why would you need this much shit staring at you...
...when you could just cut it down to the essentials?
>>14766175
That is the dumbest shit I've ever seen gauges are there for a reason your supposed to glance at them periodically when you are driving
How could you throw so much caution to the wind cause "UGH ALL THESE LIGHTS THAT BRING ME VALUABLE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MY CAR IS RUNNING IS ANNOYING ME ALL I CARE ABOUT IS MY SPEEDO WHO CARES IF I OVERHEAT"
>>14763617
Love that song.
>>14766217
The temp gauge lights up if the car gets too hot. same with the other gauges, it warns you if somethings wrong. dumbass.
>>14766175
lol who needs a gas gauge?
