>There are people on this board right now that un-ironically hate Porsches
No one hates them.
We just don't understand their appeal
I don't hate them
I'd just never spend what it costs to buy a porsche, on a porsche.
>>14762831
elaborate.
shiddd
I don't hate them, but if I were to own one I'd probably debadge it so only people who car would know what it is. There is one porsche in my town and it's driven by some teenager and it looks like it hasn't been washed in a long ass time.
>>14763637
>who car
AKA who care
New porsche is meh because PDK garbage but the 711 boxster whatsit seems cool.
Reporting.
Porsche is cool, I just don't want one.
There's plenty of cars I want to experience driving/owning before a 911.
>F-Type
>GTR
>AMG GT
>LFA
etc.
>>14763650
>but who was cayman gt4
>>14762849
not the same fag. Nothing is wrong with a porsche at all (performance wise), its actually probably very very good on the road and on paper. Idk just feels like there's something missing. Maybe too perfect. Most people who fall in love with Porsche's are either gold diggers or just love the unique body design.
honestly just hate porsche because i think they're ugly
i'm not a car person though
i need design + performance, but i definitely respect how crazy porsches perform
>>14764321
faggots in overalls
Glorified vw
They look really feminine
>>14766212
thats a woman f a m
I just hate the Porsche-fanboys, the Cayennes and the Panameras and their extremely conservative approach for design/styling.
(Why no interesting midengine-supercar?! Always the same boring 911-crap for 10 000 years... This company is more conservative than the pope.)
And I think they are big pussies for not joining the F1 (also Audi).
I don't get them but like them once they reach youngtimer age.
>>14766251
that's what makes it great.
944 and 928 are the only ones i like desu
>be me
>porsche 911 is dream car since kid
>work hard, save up every stray penny
>finally buy a 911 turbo
>take it out on the weekends and to trackdays
>people think i'm a rich prick who likes to show off (even though i drive a twingo most days)
MFW
I just don't really "get" them, I've driven some cool ones, just don't really like how they drive, also been to some Porsche events/parties and Rennsport reunion, the community is just very stodgy, even moreso than Ferrari, the brit makes, or really any other marque. Guess that's just the German spirit, no fun or passion allowed.
>>14762814
I like the purity/minimilism in the air cooled/boxer/transaxle setup but that's kinda lost these days.
They lost me at the 981/991 gen too. Aesthetically if nothing else, it seems a step back from 987/997
I'm considering a 996/997 along with an E46 M3 for a weekend/project car.
>>14762831
>We just don't understand their appeal
They make sports cars, with powerful engines and well designed chassis and suspensions, except without unnecessary features like expensive doors or a sealed hood.
Everyone who drove their cars says its great on the track and very DD'able, not to mention you can fix most of them at home if you have the tools and money.
Its the car manufacturer everybody wishes, except it already exists (and therefore receives hate)
>>14762814
Fucking uncultured swine
>>14767400
I almost read it as "mad kush"
>>14769716
>Why no interesting midengine-supercar?!
Like the 918?
Or the Carrera GT?
>>14769825
>people think
You only become a man when you stop caring about this.
>>14770879
944 thread?
>>14770892
What is that? Was that a Germany only type thing, or a custom build?
they remind me of frogs t b h f a m
>>14770908
Limited run kits made by DP Motorsport I believe.
>>14766099
>unique body design
Every one of them looks exactly the ducking same, save for the Cayman and the 918
>having a different rear wing doesn't count
Bumping.
Boutique cars for old men
hate them for the same reason i hate most super/sports car companies. 90% of people who buy them don't like cars, they like the status.
>>14773091
Ayy, true but don't you think the RWB craze is going to kill out that group?
>>14762831
>>14766099
I actually totally understand this. I felt exactly the same way about Porsche for most of my life and my "career" as a car guy. "Oh, they're squashed VWs for dentists." "Why would I spend that kind of money on a car when I could build a faster car for half the price?" etc.
I do a bit of automotive blog writing/photography, mostly just so I can go to cool events for free and get press access, and I happened to get sent to Rennsport Reunion IV back in 2011. I went there with a lot of skepticism toward the Porsche brand, but over the three days of the event, I was totally converted, and fell in love with the brand. The kind of Porsche enthusiasts that compete in these events are, for the most part, really awesome people, just like serious enthusiasts of any more "attainable" brand, and I was blown away by how down to earth and cool a lot of these guys are, even though they're billionaires with collections full of historic racing legends, and you'd totally expect them to be pretentious assholes. Porsche themselves are also really great to deal with, all of their people are super enthusiastic about what the brand represents and about motorsports, and as a side note they provided the best lunches I've ever found in a press center.
If that event wasn't enough, though, not long after that I got the chance to drive a 997 on my favorite canyon road, and it was really the final straw for turning me into a fanboy. Here was a factory stock car that fit me like a glove, sounded amazing, and suited my driving style so well that I couldn't believe it, and at the same time it was a totally usable daily driver without the compromises of the tuner cars I'd been running for most of my driving life.
I haven't gotten one yet, because I'm back in school and have a few years until I get out and can make a real income again, but I'm pretty much dead set on picking up a nice 997.2 C2S as soon as I've got some cash in the bank.
I hate them but only because I owned and daily-drove an automatic 924.
If you gave me a Cayman I wouldn't turn it down, though.
Most of the people who hate on Porsches can't even afford a new base civic
>>14773782
Most people who buy Porches can't even change their own oil
>>14773808
Lets be honest, most Porsche-buyers would not be able to find their engine...
>>14770881
This.
I get the conservatism argument and that they use the same design, but the mid-engined comment was idiotic friend.
>mfw will never have the dosh to protect that smile
I don't hate them, but they never really did much for me. I rather liked the 944 and 928, but I'd attribute that to being a fan of the FC RX-7 first. I mean, they're very accomplished, and assuredly make great cars (SUVs statusmobiles aside), but somehow I never really have been sad that I'll never own a Porsche in the same way that I'll be bummed to never own an F40 or a GT40 or even a Viper ACR. Eh, to each their own.
porsche has made ugly cars from the 996 and on
>>14773812
Jesus those summer tires need to be changed.
>>14773233
This is what a lot of the people on here just don't get. I can't explain exactly why an E46 M3 is fucking amazing, it just has a feel that a lap time can't account for.
Same reason why I still can't entirely get on the "American cars have changed" bandwagon. They might be acting more like the Japs and Krauts, but nice things on paper don't make a car.
>>14773101
nope look up "r gruppe"
>>14762814
just
No other machine on this planet has had the engineering that a Porsche has received over the decades. It is not even close!
>>14777727
R Gruppe's cool, apart from Magnus.
Flat 6's sound like absolute shit, fuck paying six figures for the exhaust note of a old truck.
They look like Beetles with body kits.
They make any driver look like a massive douche, bonus points for driving a convertible with a bald spot.
They will kill you if you fuck up slightly at the limit.
i would buy an old air cooled porsche if they weren't crazy expensive. I cant even find a 911sc in my 35k price range that is worth owning.
>>14783413
>Flat 6's sound like absolute shit, fuck paying six figures for the exhaust note of a old truck.
wrong
>They look like Beetles with body kits.
wrong again
>They make any driver look like a massive douche, bonus points for driving a convertible with a bald spot.
wrong also jealous poorfaggot spotted
>They will kill you if you fuck up slightly at the limit.
sure maybe the 930 turbos but modern 911s? dont think so jeff
>>14762814
yeah, poorfags.
id DD a porch if they weren't so hard to service in hickville.
>>14785689
>move out of hickville
>live in suburbville
>sell vette
>buy porch
I don't hate them. I just know I'll never be able to reasonably afford a nice 964/993.
>>14769716
Porsche literally makes one of the only rear-engine cars still produced.
How is that conservative?
>>14785714
> I just know I'll never be able to reasonably afford a nice 964/993.
breh its possible.
go on rennlist. srs
>>14762814
I like Porsches but my real boner is for what RUF does to them.
>>14762814
Porsches made after the 90s are all faggot shit except for the 918.
>>14785877
k.
>>14785877
k
>>14785877
K,
I feel like Porsche is the only expensive brand that caters to enthusiasts
I think they're great cars, since they effectively worked around their rr layout, but I always confuse them for lowered beetles, out of the corner of my eye. Which they kind of started out as.
>>14770892
>>14770879
I've got DOHC decals on the side windows of my 944S. Would it be dumb to put an additional Twin Cam sticker on the back window?
Just trying to make it feel a little more personal seeing as performance mods on the non-951 are pretty much out of the question. The 16V is basically the S's claim to fame.
