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All other automakers BTFO.

No longer do we need to settle for car tech lagging behind computer tech by a decade.

No longer do we have to deal with outdated engineering.

THANK YOU BASED ELON MUSK.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/01/luxury/tesla-model-3/index.html
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If they really deliver $35k and on time the industry really will be BTFO. Somewhat more expensive than a Bolt, and somewhat later, but also massively nicer looking and with massively better stats all around.
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>>14759799

RIP Bolt.

It was nice almost knowing you.

GM executive:
>G-guys... lets keep the fake grill. P-people aren't r-ready for that much change yet.

Rest of the board:
>Y-yeah, p-probably. Fake grill it is.
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>>14759819

GM executive:
>A-also, l-lets copy the c-pillar design from N-Nissan
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>>14759786
looks like a mazda
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>>14759839

Not even close, famalam.
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>>14759786
>herewegoagain.jpg
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>>14759824
didn't BMW start that pillar on the i-cars?
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>>14759883

I'm sorry, I haven't been on 4chan all day.

Must vent my feels.
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>>14759888

I think you're right.

Fucking Nissan.
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Too slow.
Too expensive
Shit interior
Piss poor engineering
Range Anxiety
Range limitations for use as a non commuter.
Expensive to maintain and run
Not even IMR or INR batteries. Could fit 3x the range in the same space with off the shelf 18650s, but decided to cheap the fuck out.
Trunk hatch makes trunk useless
Interior is literally both and active and passive safety hazard.
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make the front look good somehow
make a hud instrument cluster
put buttons on the steering wheel
make the rear into an actual liftback instead of a weird letterbox hatch thing

and maybe i'll consider a reservation
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>>14759918
>not 18650 cells
[citation needed]
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>>14759890
I'm prett sure the threads are still up the cat. Why not look at them instead of bumping a thread out of the cat?
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>>14759839
Tesla chief designer, drew the current style language for Mazda.
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It literally uses 18650s, with like 2100 mah each. My math could be wrong though.

A large square battery would save a shitload of space vs fitting 1000s of cylinders in a square space.
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>>14759953
Shut your fucking mouth. Elon invented the electric car, nobody knows them better than him.

If he is using cylinders it is because IT IS THE BEST WAY to build a battery.
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>>14759953
Custom cell would have cost more.
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>>14759965
Yes. And it would charge faster, have more capacity, be lighter, and better discharge rates, and improve the car dramatically. Instead we get a giant iPad and a glass roof.
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>>14759918

r u srs

>Too slow.

no

>Too expensive

no

>Shit interior

no

>Piss poor engineering

lol no

>Range Anxiety

Supercharge capable = 80% in 30 minutes, so no

>Range limitations for use as a non commuter.

see above

>Expensive to maintain and run

LOL NO

>Not even IMR or INR batteries. Could fit 3x the range in the same space with off the shelf 18650s, but decided to cheap the fuck out.

no

>Trunk hatch makes trunk useless

dafaq

no

>Interior is literally both and active and passive safety hazard.

no
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>>14759973
>Not wanting a touch screen and glass roof
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>>14759974
B T F O
T
F
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How are the major car companies responding to this?

I mean, they all have dealerships across the whole US and none of them thought of putting a cross-country charging stations?

I just don't understand why they're letting Tesla storm in and take the market.
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>>14759974
Fuck off assmad SpaceX coffeeboy, you don't get extra pay for shitposting
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Why should I care again? Why should I waste that much money on an uninteresting commuter?
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>>14760129
>Why should I care again?

No one is saying you should. You're the one that saw this thread and still decided to click on it.

>>14760129

No one is saying you should either.
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Just a reminder to NEVER buy a new Tesla or GM car.
GM was bailed out by government money with stimulus package 2.
Tesla received funding from the government. Elon Musk was already rich but guess what, the government gave him free money and made him richer.
Neither should be supported.
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>>14760152
>Tesla received funding from the government.

It was a loan which Tesla has already repaid in full with interest you fucking retard.
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>>14760148

You're literally replying to the same person, idiot.
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>>14760157
A loan which they should have never received from the government in the first place.
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>>14760160

>moving the goalposts
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>>14760166
>LEAVE ELONG ALONE
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>>14760152

Fuck him right! Feel the Bern!!
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ayyyy lmao

I truly hope this is a April's fools joke
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>>14760482
if everything is just gonna be controlled through the screen anyway I don't see a problem with it
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>>14760492
Having to turn your head to see your speed is plain retarded. Is this called "innovation" nowadays?
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>>14760152

If you knew the number of private companies that have been directly and indirectly supported by the government your head would spin off your shoulders and fly into orbit. Take your self-righteous barely informed opinion to reddit where it belongs.
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>>14760503

What is a Heads Up Display?
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>>14760503

Tesla's are being designed as an anti-driver's car. It's a silicon valley tech box with wheels designed for apple-buying upper middle class yuppies. What do they care that the dash readouts are in the center of the car, they probably will just let the thing drive itself as soon as it will let them.
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>>14759974
See, Tesla fanbois are the worst.

>referencing other thread
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>>14760514
almost every car is an anti-driver's car. the honda civic outsells the mazda miata 100 to 1. the model s was the car for yuppies. the model 3 is a car for everyone.
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>>14759819
Oh holy fuck, and i thought the tesla was ugly.

Looks fucking beautiful in comparison. Thanks for not doing as badly as those morons, tesla.
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>>14760522
No, something like the Suzuki Alto is a car for everyone. The model 3 is like that lesser but very expensive iphone.
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>>14760509
That would be really neat, are they introducing that in Tesla 3?
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>>14760528
my point was 99% of drivers don't give a shit about having a drivers car. if tesla could sell a cheaper car and make more profit then they would do it. I don't know the economics of the electric car industry or their strategy going forward but I imagine their goal is to make even cheaper cars in the future.
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>>14759918
>Too slow.
Faster than the 86/MX5
>Too expensive
Only if you're a pathetic poorfag
>Shit interior
Hopefully the production ones will be less horrific
>Piss poor engineering
[citation needed]
>Range Anxiety
All caps, huh?
>Range limitations for use as a non commuter.
Yes, and a Hummer H1 has parking limitations in small, european cities. Dumbass.
>Expensive to maintain and run
[citation needed]
>Blah blah batteries
It's cheap, nigger. Has a good enough range for the price, 18650s are for faggots, lithium-sulfur higher voltage cells are the future
>Trunk hatch makes trunk useless
Petty shit
>More interior shit
See above
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>>14760533
But there exist cars like the Suzuki Alto. This is a bargain basement car that can be yours, new, for £6 grand. It has nothing inside, it isn't trying to be anything but a simple commuter car, it just gets you from a to b and will never go wrong. That is a peoples car. Not some ipad on wheels.
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>>14760540
It's also an unsafe heap of horrible to drive shit that is only so cheap because it's designed to appeal to the 3rd world.

Once lithium-sulfur batteries become mainstream, lithium-ion will be worth nothing and that's when cheap shitboxes like the alto will become electric.
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>>14760540
god damnit. I am not talking about the price. I'm talking about the target market. Tesla wants to make profit. They don't give a shit who buys the model 3. The model s was the one that a yuppie would buy to impress his friends. The model 3 is just them trying to make money.
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>>14760548
The model 3 is the one that sells to up and coming 20/30 something aspiring yuppies.
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>>14760160
Yeah, it's better to give all money to GM and Chrysler like we did on 2008.
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>>14760562
it sells to anyone who wants an electric car. The model 3 is not a conspiracy to ruin the fun of people who like stick shift cars with loud exhausts. It is a conspiracy to sell cars to people who don't give a shit about driver's cars which is almost everyone.
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>>14760565
>two wrongs make a right
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>>14760568
The market is flooded with those kind of cars. It appeals to a certain type of person who has an idealogical stake in the future being electric and (possible) autonomous at any cost.
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>>14760575
It appeals to a certain type of person who doesn't like to go to gas stations or pay for gas. (everyone)
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>>14760581
>charging stations aren't gas stations where you spend 10 times as much time
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>>14760590
>people still drive across the country instead of flying
again... not exactly a huge demographic there
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>>14760596
>it's either a 50 mile round trip commute of cross country

no.
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>>14760509
>HUD
Tesla still can't figure out how to make adjustable headrest in $100k car
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>>14760599
uh... yes

unless you literally have to drive all day for your job
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>>14760581
$20 gets me 300 miles and takes 5 minutes to get. How long are you tethered to a charger for those 200 miles? You may argue that its "cheaper" than a gas vehicle, but compared to the average commuter car it would take years just to break even.
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>>14760603
Are you retarded or just pretending?
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>>14760603
Or go anywhere that requires mid distance and isn't serviced by an airport. Ie anywhere that isn't major city to major city.

>>14760607
Also factor in the time. It's free if your time is free.
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>>14760482
>Cheap looking dash
>No speedometer in front of the driver
>One big ass tablet controlling everything

That looks like shit desu F.A.M

>Waited in line for 96 hours to pre order my Tesla model 3 on march 31'st
>End of 2017
>President Bernie Sanders is in office
>Finally take delivery of my Tesla Model 3
>Put into self driving mode
>Fap to cuck porn while the model 3 drives me to my wife's boyfriends house
>What a great future they created for us
>Thanks Elon
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>>14760607
the model 3 is not going to be competing with a Suzuki Alto. it's going to be competing with cars that cost $35k.

>>14760610
you're an idiot
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>>14760613
>Or go anywhere that requires mid distance and isn't serviced by an airport. Ie anywhere that isn't major city to major city.
this doesn't apply to me. what do you live in a flyover state?
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>>14760617
>nobody ever goes for drives unless they're commuting or going across the country
And I'm the idiot.
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>>14759918
>Too slow.

It has a 0-60 time in under 6 seconds, which is much faster than any other EV (and most non-EVs) it is competing with.

>Too expensive

It's priced well, considering it's competing with other EVs like the Chevrolet Bolt.

>Shit interior

Appearance is subjective. I think it looks sleek and modern. I don't like the look of busy interiors. The quality of materials is yet to be known.

>Piss poor engineering

It's brand new, and almost nothing is known about it.

>Range Anxiety

It's compatible with Tesla Supercharger stations. The Model S gains 170 miles of range after 30 minutes of charging. The Model 3 will likely be similar.

>Range limitations for use as a non commuter.

Tesla Supercharger stations are located along many major highways in the US, spaced closely enough to provide charge for driving across the entire country.

https://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger

>Expensive to maintain and run

Electricity costs less than gasoline. Maintenance costs are not yet known.

>Not even IMR or INR batteries. Could fit 3x the range in the same space with off the shelf 18650s, but decided to cheap the fuck out.

I don't know enough about that subject to comment on it.

>Trunk hatch makes trunk useless

I agree. It would have benefited from a hatch like the Chevrolet Volt.

>Interior is literally both and active and passive safety hazard.

The Model S has steering wheel mounted controls for adjusting the climate control and radio. The Model 3 may have some type of convenience features like these as well.
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>>14760621
>I think /o/ is a good representation of the average driver

yes. you are an idiot.
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>>14760617
>not knowing how to do simple math
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>>14760620
Amazingly, people live in different scenarios to you. So your electric future that you fags insist we all participate in doesn't look particularly rosy to someone who doesn't live in a suburb and whos only driving consists of going to the office and trying to find your wifes son when hes out smoking crack.
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>>14760624
what
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>>14760607
Except most people with electric cars charge overnight at home 99% of the time. The free 30 minute stop at a supercharger is for road trips. Do you have a filling station in your garage?

/o/ looks fucking retarded when they pretend to know anything about electric. All "enthusiasts" do, actually, until they actually try it.
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>>14760623
>thinks everyone flies everywhere when they go on vacation
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>tfw reserved mine early on
So glad I did

Even if it takes 3+ years to get my car, I'm hyped.
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>>14760625
>So your electric future that you fags insist we all participate in
jesus fucking christ. get over yourself. nobody gives a shit what you drive.
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>>14760627
>let me plan my trip around where one charging station is and have to sit and wait to charge my car
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>>14760627
I actually have 1500 litre diesel tank not 50m from where I'm sat :)
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>>14760633
But they do. Browse any forum where teslafags exist and you will see a vision of the world where everyone has or hails an autonomous cuckpod and antiquated cars are banned on public roads. This is what you're enabling.
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>>14760636
>Not to mention if electric cars gain mainstream popularity to the point of having a Queue at the supercharging station.
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>>14760643
>build more supercharging stations

problem fixed
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>>14760642
if autonomous cars remove elderly and female drivers from the equation then it will all be worth it
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>>14760649
It wont because both those demographics have huge voting clout and also lean towards the "ban everything I irrationally dislike, make everything I like free" side of the political spectrum.
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>>14760482
The problem is it's just floating there. That tablet is gonna be a prime target for niggers to break in and try to steal it thinking it's an ipad and not realizing it's not usable outside of plugged into the car.
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>>14760648
>Go to any gas station at peak hours
>Expect it to not be busy
That isn't going to help much
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>>14760648
Will Tesla be doing all this? Because there is no business model for a charging station that provides free energy.
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>>14760658
Elon already said they will be doubling supercharger stations by next year.

There is a business model. No one else is rolling out true (100kw+) fast charging. Being the only people to do it, and then offering it for free, makes Tesla the only practical choice for cars that aren't pure commuters (which even the Bolt will be)
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>>14760658

Who do you think has built the existing network?
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>>14760665
>access to superchargers is a $2k option on the S
>I'm sure it'll be free for me
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>>14760665
No I mean there is no business model for independent charging stations if the expectation is that the charge will always be free.

Hoping on Telsa providing the entire infrastructure is like a propitiatory plug in an iphone. You get dicked into a monopoly.
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>>14760672
Literally one model and it didn't even stick. Elon already confirmed supercharging as standard on the 3.
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>>14760673
>No I mean there is no business model for independent charging stations if the expectation is that the charge will always be free.
There is for the rest of the electric cars on the road that cannot into supercharging.
I mean, this isn't even an academic debate. There's already a network of independent charging stations in Europe, and one building in America. It's just that they're built for shit (generally sub-30kwh) cars, so they don't have to be powerful.
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>>14760636
Planning your trip around the rest stops and breaks is the best way to do it anyway.
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>>14760689
>There is for the rest of the electric cars on the road that cannot into supercharging.

There isn't. In the UK there is like 3 bays at any service station that are always empty because it has been put in as a pc meme. If you were to replace the infrastructure for mostly evs it was cost the driver a fuck tonne.
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>>14760691
>implying the superchargers are at rest stops
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>>14760694
>>14760694
The memes are clouding your ability to make a coherent point. You're talking about Tesla having a monopoly by charging their own cars for free, and then you admit that the already existing charging infrastructure for the rest of the electric cars out there is underutilized (protip: it's because they charge at home almost if not exclusively and no one does more than commute with EVs that aren't Teslas because it's a stupid idea). Nothing really relates to the next point.
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>>14760699
Are they just gonna put them in the middle of nowhere? Where the hell else are they going to go?
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>>14760721
That's typically where you find service stations in rural areas. Or carry jerry cans.
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>Oh no, we didnt "borrow" Porsches design.
>Its unique!
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>>14760655
The answer to that my friend is simple.
Kill all the niggers.
No more stealing problem.
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>>14760751
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As a redditor and a keen tech enthusiast I think this new 3â„¢ is going to simply ebin

Do away with this regressive design and keep the cool crisp interior and epic Touchscreen®

With the new autopilotâ„¢ feature we can now let the car drive itself

I will be able update my blog on the move
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>mfw tesla fanboys are rationalizing the worst interior of the decade by saying it's "modern"
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>>14759953
You realize you need coolant between the cells right?
> Fucking ICE retards
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>>14760843
>coolant between the cells

you can't be serious
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>>14760826
While I would prefer the A/C and speedo to be separate from the display, it's not the end of the world.

As long as tesla offer some kind of decent HUD for the speedo, I don't think it's design choices are going to turn off a lot of people.

I also don't like the trunk design, but since the whole roof is a single pane of glass, what can you do?

Also Dodge and only Dodge win worst interior award all year every year.
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>>14760158
kek
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>>14760853
>>14760853
nope, even that dodge interior is better than the stinking heap of shit floating ipad dash
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>>14760853
>that left hand pedal

i-is that the clutch?
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>>14760872
it's a footrest
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>>14760655
Maybe you can just detach it?
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>>14760887
no left and above that
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>touchscreen only controls for everything
all of my why
it's like the designers have never tried to operate something touchscreen whilst driving at 70mph on a motorway
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>>14760817
ebin. but explain how any of those things are bad
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>>14760903
Have you actually tried using a touch screen while driving?
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>>14760482
They honestly got it right with the Model S, then they went pants on head retarded.
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>>14760907
Did you watch the video? Car goes into auto-pilot when you touch the touch screen.
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>>14759786
As a COMPUTER ENGINEER I would never buy a Tesla. I dont want electronics in my car that's why I buy old Volvos.
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>>14759983
>Oh looks like I've got a chip in my wind shield
>1500 dollar repair
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>>14760890
parking break
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>>14760939
Do you know how much I just paid to repair the chip in my 428i? $1400, so basically $500 deductible out of my pocket and my insurance will probably go up next year. Windshields already have so many sensors:

-light
-rain
-temp
-etc.

That you can't just use a normal glass repair place any longer.
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>>14760929
Are you sure? Self driving cars still aren't a thing yet.
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>>14760964
What the fuck are you using sensors for on your windshield?
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>>14760979
The fuck should I know, all I know is the price the fucking dealership charged me to replace it.
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>>14760826
>big ass tablet not integrated into the dash so it sticks out like an ugly sore thumb
>no dials whatsoever

Fucked it up big time. That shit will not sell.

Pic related is how you do large touchscreens in cars without going full retard.

Besides, Diesel hybrids are way, way better than fully electric cars. They still have good performance, cost little even when electricity runs out, and you can drive 2000km with one tank.
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>>14760987
Hybrids are superior to both, and you're also driving a BMW and not an apple car gimmicky piece of shit or a Volvo.
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>>14760992
>he thinks BMW make better cars than Volvo

Vollverzögerter Türke detektiert.

t. German.
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Until I can charge that thing as fast as I can fill my tank it's a lifestyle statement and a toy. A super expensive toy.

Stay buttmad Tesla assclowns. Gas is $2 / gallon and I can drive unlimited range.
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>>14760929
And if I'm driving and trying to hit the demister whithout it going into autopilot?
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>>14759974
>Supercharge capable = 80% in 30 minutes, so no
That's precisely the point. If your car takes 30 minutes to charge in specific stations that are still far and few, then you have reasons to be worried about your range.
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>>14761013
You shouldn't be playing with a tablet when you're driving...
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>>14761023
All the basic controls are on the tablet. How are you meant to interact with the basic functions in the car if not through that?
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>>14760655
It might not be an iPad, but it will probably sell for a lot considering the cars will probably be entirely dependant on it. The aftermarket demand will be absurd.
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>>14761027
The car goes into auto-pilot if you touch the tablet.
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>>14761037
I don't want it to. I want to turn on the rear demister.

>this is progress
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>>14760596
Meaning, most people who can't afford a Tesla? Flying is far from cheap.
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>>14761041
You shouldn't be playing with a fucking tablet when you are driving...
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>>14760120
muh oil

muh overpriced combustion engine maintenance
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>>14761052
>you shouldn't be turning on/off basic functions of a car while operating it

>this is progress
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Some of the shills in here seems to have the same thought process as Berniebots or Macfags.
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>>14761055
>overpriced combustion engine maintenance

What like £30 every 10,000 miles if you do regular changes?
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>>14761065
What part of the car will go into auto-pilot don't you seem to understand. You go into auto-pilot, then you can set what the fuck ever you want, and when you are done you grab the steering wheel and the car goes back to manual drive.
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If id live in usa id get it asap.
You people have a billion tesla charging station. Here in eu we got almost none. Absolutely not worth unless you live next to one. I guess germany has a few here and there
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>>14760899
Considering the people who like Tesla and work for them, they probably have not because they have never gone over 60mph, but at this point they are uncapable of using anything that doesn't have a touchscreen.
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>>14761075
I don't want it to, what part of that do you not understand? What currently is a 2 second thing using my hands without taking my eyes off the road and a simple switch now requires an auto pilot (lol have you seen British B roads) and a huge array of sensors.

>this is progress
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>>14761092
It requires the auto-pilot because the menu works similarly to an iPhone. Basically you need to go through a few menu to access some basic functions. This helps with the minimalism and overall driving experience.
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>>14761068
>teslafags who compare their cars to macbooks and mean it as a compliments are repeating the same stupid arguments and dismiss every counter-argument the same way macfags do
Who would have thought...
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>>14761072
Electric cars are actually a huge threat to the existing maintenance sector

>Electric motors are more reliable with less bullshit that needs replacing over time
>No oil changes
>Mechanic's previous knowledge is half useless now
>Firmware updates can fix things that used to require a visit to the shop
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>>14761097
>This helps with the minimalism and overall driving experience.
>not being able to do things quickly and having more commands to perform simple and necessary tasks helps the driving experience
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>>14761097
You don't seem to understand. A switch is simpler than an autopilot and scrolling through menus. I'm trying to turn on the demister not find my favourite song.

>>14761107
Suspension will still wear, battery needs replacing, electrical gubins will still go wrong. Modern car techs basically do nothing but this anyway.
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>>14761110
You're wrong, everything is all in one place the tablet. This alone makes it much easier to drive especially for people who has never drove your car before. It's designed to be user friendly. What's so hard about clicking lights then clicking which settings the confirm, that like 3-4 button pressed. Compared to what it was before where people need to fumble with the light switch or looking for it and accidentally activating the wippers.
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>>14761116
What is not user friendly about switches?
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>>14761097
This sounds fucking horrible.

Although this is coming from someone who quit photography when he "upgraded" from a 1960s Topcon which had a beautifully simple manual interface to some shitty canon DSLR with all this annoying going through menus for basic functions and a ton of annoying automated bullshit.
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>>14761116
You do know that mandatory functions are indicated by specific icons on your das hand on your switches, right? (or is it just a yuronorm? I dunno)
All it takes is one minute looking at your steering wheel to see what is where and if you are too dumb to do that, chances are people will not let you borrow their cars in the first place.
also
>implying it is not equally uninstinctive to navigate through menus to find how to turn on your wippers
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I can adjust the temp on my heater with a quick glance and a gesture. Same with radio. Lights without looking. Cruise without looking.

Menus on a touch screen, while staying at center console. Stupid ergonomic /safety issue. All for "style" and "design purity". This is the same stupid shit achitects do. As en engineer he should know better, but he drank his own Kool Aid.
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>>14761136
>>14761133
Ffs... You idiots don't understand...

Everything is automatic including the driving.

-wipers turn on when it rains
-condensation reduction will activate when a window gets blurry
-lights will turn on when it's dark

Everything is fucking automatic, the sliders are just for your personal settings. And Tesla don't want you to get into an accident when you're on the highway and you decided you don't want your internal lights to be a certain color or if you want to change the background picture...
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>>14760996
> count liking a domestic company as nationalism, no matter what the company actually is like
> strong, Hitler-indepentend German doesn't need no nationalism no more
> have brilliant idea
> Say I like foreign company better, no matter what the foreign company actually is like
> That will show the world!
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>>14761116
>makes it much easier to drive
Right. Going through a bunch of menus is easier than pressing a button that is either on or off. Or a dial.

The menu can be useful for a bunch of things but all cars are having this problem now. I don't want to go through a fucking menu for my a/c settings or music
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>>14761165
>driving is automated
>best driving experience
Just take the train or the bus if you can't be bothered to learn how to drive and think flicking a switch is complicated.
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>urban youth steals your iradio
>car totaled
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>>14759786
I'd prefer a guage in front of the driver, maybe at least a speedometer and maybe a "power usage" guage like the one on the plug-in hybrid camry. I'm fine with center guages but not ones like this bullshit
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>>14759786
Model X, isn't even out yet, and they are talking about a model three.....?
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>>14761190
Just goes to prove how disattached from reality all the silicon valley devs are. in the real world, self-driving vehicles goes apeshit because no one drives correctly, you can't recharge your car's batteries in your garage because you don't have a garage, you don't buy a car with parts you can't change yourself because you can't afford to have your wipers fixed at a shop, you can't have an ipad sticking out of your dash because it's the best way to find your car with a broken window and the thing pulled out and your car now impossible to drive.
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>>14760745
When I saw the picture I actually thought that it was a Porsche.
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>>14761209
Musk stuck by his promise that the Model 3 will go on sale by the end of next year.
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>>14761209

Vaporware for 150,000 Tesla acolytes. The first to be delivered in 2 years. Last might get his in 2020. The company still hasn't turned a profit.

Talk about drinking the Kool Aid.
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>>14761165
If I wanted a car to do everything for me, I'd just get a fucking cab.
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>>14760152
>implying every car company in the US isn't a welfare queen
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>>14760152
>the government hands out money to companies
>this is somehow the companies' fault
Burn down Washington already, you moronic cunts.
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>>14760699

I travel From Fl to GA, And the Florida Turnpike has superchargers at every one of the rest area's
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>>14759960
Its not. They are cheaper and easier to manufacture. Not better.
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>>14760974
https://youtu.be/DbPqIHwSHos
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REMINDER : Get a Gen II Prius, get a huge plug in conversion, and get 50 miles on EV only, or 200 miles in blended mode (85MPG), with zero range anxiety as you have an internal combustion engine to switch back to when the battery is empty, that still gets 50 MPG.
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>>14759786
>troll thread
>167 replies

why am i not surprised
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>>14760826
How does the driver even get that appliance in reverse?
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>>14761318
This.
>I could be tipsy all the time and therefore enjoy the reality better
>The car would be always the latest model (e-class, 5-series etc.) as long as it makes no difference
>The interior would be actually made and designed to a tolerable standard unless the cab happens to be a Prius or Tesla.
>No car washing, cleaning or any other maintenance
>Cheaper, since the residual value after the battery warranty has expired is $0.
>Riding a motorcycle during summer and actually enjoying
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>>14761548
>or 200 miles in blended mode (85MPG)

How fucking small is the fuel tank on one of those things?
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>>14759819
Why, these literally have no grill on the corvette and had an airdam channel air to the radiator. Just make it aerodynamic you plebs
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>>14760983
>not paying $50 for a junkyard hood and keeping it off the insurance record
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>>14760616
>No speedometer in front of the driver
>needing to monitor your speed in a car that can drive itself
It's like you don't even future, autopilot is a standard feature on the 3.
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>>14760649
Autonomous cars will remove drivers from the equation. That includes you.
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>>14761055
>muh replacement batteries
>muh 'aerodynamic' handles breaking
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>>14761068
>>14761104
>/pol/cuckolds are the ones behind the tesla shitposting

who would have tought

go back to your shitboard now
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>>14761210
>self-driving vehicles goes apeshit because no one drives correctly
The solution is simple.
Ban manual driving.
If every car is self-driving, no one will drive like a retard anymore.
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>>14761710
>corvette has no grill

thats why it overheats after a lap kek
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What does /o/ think?
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>>14761840

Audi does it better.
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>>14761840
The interior is my only major disappointment. Hoping for some changes by production. Just seems bland.
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>>14760649
>if autonomous cars remove elderly and female drivers from the equation then it will all be worth it
>being this much of a scared little bitch

kek, sure we'll listen to your opinion
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>>14761852
female or elderly cunt detected

triggered hard as fuck your retarded ass won't be able to drive anymore?
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>>14761858
I'll say it again, autonomous cars will remove DRIVERS from the equation.
That includes YOU.
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>>14761843
Audi is long time gone.
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>>14761861
good, cant wait until i can just load my track car into a trailer and travel to the nearest track while watching my animes in the touchscreen in my electric car

driving on the streets is boring to dead, what kind of cuck finds bumper to bumper traffic fun?
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>>14761840
too expensive to manufacture, actually.
this is why a HUD would work well, cheaper than having some fancy LCD instrument cluster

the main LCD can stay because it's basically just a regular old LG touch screen monitor
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so is this fwd or rwd?
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>>14761981
rwd standard
awd optional with dual motors
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>>14761984
FWD KEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>14762005
the traction control will probably be really aggressive like it is on the S though.
but if there's some way to defeat is this thing will be a fucking drift missile EASILY
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>>14762005
>he actually belives there are FWD fanboys on /o/

get meme'd on kiddo
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>>14762019
>he takes posts he sees on 4chan 100% seriously
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>>14762088
oh shit i got meme'd on back
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>>14761634
>How does the driver even get that appliance in reverse?
Keep the brake pedal pressed, like in the video games. Right pedal forward, left pedal brake/reverse.
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>>14760160
Why not
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>>14759786
i'd rather pay over 100k for the model that doesnt look like shit
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>>14761870
You said pretty much exactly the same thing in another thread. Stop shilling for your 40 grand dildo.
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>There are actually some people who don't like autonomous driving
>There are actually some people who think they are better drivers than an autonomous car
>There are actually some people who don't think this car is going to BTFO the rest of the automotive industry
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>>14760616
>President Bernie Sanders is in office
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>>14763572

Autonomous cars can't handle faded lane markers, they're not even close to ready. Stay delusional.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/driverless-cars-bad-roads_us_56fd2101e4b0a06d5804dbc9
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>>14761019
>212 miles from nearest supercharger
>Needing to plan any road trips to stop by a supercharger, even if it is out of the way, to not need to ask stores to charge in their parking lots for an hour+ just to keep driving.

No thanks senpai. 30 minutes is definitely quick charging per current battery standards, but they need 5 minute charging + superchargers literally everywhere for me to want one.
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>>14760826
Kek.

Even the interior of a i-MIEV looks better.
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>>14760826
That doesn't look safe.
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>>14759786
Wasn't this announced on the 1st?
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>>14761518
>area's
>turkey lake and fort drum
>two is now every
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>>14760826

Somehow doubt that's final, to be honest.
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>>14760539
>Faster than the 86/MX5
But this isn't a lightweight sports car designed for handling
>Only if you're a pathetic poorfag
You could buy a much better car for the money. You would be only missing out on the "muh EV" gimmick.
>Hopefully the production ones will be less horrific
we can only hope
>[citation needed]
probably bullshit, im not the guy you're replying to
>All caps, huh?
huh
>Yes, and a Hummer H1 has parking limitations in small, european cities. Dumbass.
Range limitations =/= parking limitations
>[citation needed]
has to be serviced by special people, no user serviceable parts
>Petty shit
yeah
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>>14760987
>Will not sell
>9 billion in sales on day 1.
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>>14763919
a deposit is not a sale
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