If you think visibility is bad in a Camaro, ur a fucking Manlet.
I'm 6ft 4in tall and drove my cousins 2016 SS M6 and had zero issues seeing out of it.
>>14751447
try checking your blindspot
>>14751460
No issues there either.
I has nonisies looking over my shoulder through the Tiny ass window.
Manlets mang
>what are blindspots
>>14751466
You do realize the seat can adjust height, don't you?
>>14751620
He would realize that if he actually drove a camaro.
>>14751700
You sound like a Manlet.
>>14751620
The seat doesn't move up that far.
Inder under 6ft, ur not gonna get High enough.
>camaro
oh? you drove your cousins car? look out guys this shitstain sure knows what hes talking about he drove a car one time
>6ft 4in
No anon, you're just too big.
>>14751877
Why are you comparing $60,000 BMws to a 37K Camaro?
>>14751880
>6ft 4
>too big
Manlet detected
How does it feel to be part of the lower class?
>>14751877
>>14751867
the seat does. i'm 5'11'' king of the manlets and it will keep rising until i have to bend my neck sideways
>>14751933
the 2SS, the one they tested in streets of willow costs 58k
try again neckbeard
>>14751895
see above
>>14751933
>base price
have fun with your V6
>>14751964
Spotted the shitbox owner who doesnt know anything about cars
>>14751957
this is false until evidence is provided
>>14751964
the v8 starts at 37k in the USA, dumbass
Literally everyone knows that.
>>14751991
>pls spoonfeed me
nope
>>14752001
>I'll just make claims without evidence
The burden of proof is on you.
>>14751964
The base model costs $26k and comes with a turbo four, not a v6, faggot
>>14751957
The directly say in the video the Camaro cost 46k
>>14752009
>i will just cry and throw a tantrum because i am to dumb to use google
the denial is on you
>>14751957
I checked. The other guy is right. 37k and change for base 2SS
>>14751906
The average height for males in the US is 5ft 9.5 in.
Which puts me at perfectly average height, since my height is 5ft 10in
Unlike you.
>>14752029
>Of course, the other numeric outlier is price: $46,095 as tested for the Camaro SS, $77,495 for the M4. That’s more than $31K.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/comparison-2015-bmw-m4-vs-2016-chevrolet-camaro-ss/
Retarded faggot.
>>14752029
>to dumb
>>14752053
the bmw scam machine never ends
>muh price
rev up that damage control
>>14752066
>31k for under a half of a second quicker
>>14752053
HOLY SHIT
You fuckin REKT that faggot
Saving this link for BMW shitters in the future
>>14752064
>>14752063
>>14752053
>this mad the camaro is not 37k
>this mad the camaro is slower
top kek
>>14752071
>muh price mothafugga
>>14752074
>bmw is faster
>totally rekt u
top kek
>>14752071
>implying that's all you get for 31k
>>14752076
>>14752082
>>14752085
>$31,000
>~0.4 seconds quicker
>$31,000
>more than you make in a year
>for literally 0.4 seconds quicker
I can't believe how hard the Germans are cukking their customers
>>14751447
Is this the thread where we go lie about our height for internet points ?
>>14752085
You don't even get a back up cam and a shit sounding engine
Oh plus it breaks down every 5k miles
>>14752076
>claims camaro is 58k
>calls others stupid
>can't use simple grammar properly
>gets btfo
>y-youre just mad
>>14752076
>>14752082
THEY'RE ACTUALLY DEFENDING THIS LOL
>>14751447
>Camaro
Only poor dirtbags drive a Camaro.
<<<Grow up son.
>Don't buy the steak, buy the fish. It's just as filling and it's cheaper! They're literally the same thing!
![1447247641701[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QaL86AM.jpg "1447247641701[1].jpg")
>all this fucking asshurt BOTH bmw are faster
>so fucking asshurt they reported the other thread like little girls
TOP KEK
CAMARO KEKS ON LITERAL SUICIDE WATCH
I CANT FUCKING BREATH
I'm a manlet and that's okay because I'd rather have a third gen with the big ol' glass hatch anyway.
>>14751957
>58K
Kek
Ur a bit off buddy
Why does a $81K BMW match a 42K Camaro burger?
>>14752110
>hey everyone I'm new money with bad taste!
>>14752113
>I NEED to buy a BMW to fulfill the gaping void in my life
Badgewhores everyone
>>14752046
>Average height
Thinks that's good
Think again Manlet.
>>14752127
>match
funny way to say faster
>>14752130
Who hurt you anon? Your mom's boyfriend?
>>>/r9k/
Your and my tall ass can't fit comfortably in a lot of really fun cars.
>tfw you will never enjoy a Triumph
>>14751447
Go back to /r9k/ to spew your shit manlet memes.
By the way I'm 6'4" as well and when I drove in a Camaro I found the visibility to be shit like every single person, so go drive your shitmaro into a ditch faggot.
>>14752113
>Swordfish cost $20 per pound
>Ribeye steak cost $9 per pound
find a better euphemism
>>14752116
Here is your picture reply
>>14752110
Nice Ferrari.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BACxmVx74OI
>>14752133
M4- slower in acceleration by 0.2sec
0.2 sec faster around a track.
So ya, matched.
81K and it can't even beat a fucking pushrod engine.
So the Camaro is quicker to 60, quicker through the quarter mile, and puts down a higher G on the skidpad. It's 0.21s slower around Streets of Willow.
So assuming the laptime is all you care about, using the as-tested prices of each car you get 0.006688 seconds off the lap time per $1000 difference between the Camaro and M4.
>BMWfags will defend this
![Top+10+hottest+memes+of+2016+we+start+this+list_1ebc1e_5836440[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IuaGsat.jpg "Top+10+hottest+memes+of+2016+we+start+this+list_1ebc1e_5836440[1].jpg")
>>14752143
>stil fucking assmad the BMWs are faster
KEK
almost as good as gtr vs corvette shitposting
>>14752143
>swordfish cost $20 per pound
>kobe beef cost $38 per pound
OK
>>14752150
>>14752156
>camaro is faster in a straight line
yes, we all know american cars can't turn, this isnt anything new
>>14752164
Swordfish is also flavorless and kobe beef is amazing.
>>14752130
>likes camaro
>implied he has good taste in cars
yea, maybe in your inbreed redneck community.
>>14751877
rekt
>>14752189
The thing is I don't even like Camaros
I think they're ugly as shit, and I'm a complete Japanese ricebox fanboy
BUT
It's funny watching the German engineering meme get REKT by Americans who supposedly build shitty cars. Who'd have thought Chevy would build a better more reliable car than BMW for $40k less in the 90s?
If you want to know what I'm into, pic related is a better luxury brand than bimmer
>>14751468
>>14751460
do you people not understand what side mirrors are for? there is no such thing as a blind spot
>>14752270
>bmw is faster
>implying germans are the ones getting rekt
lel
>>14751933
you can't compare a entry level with cloth to a fully "optioned" as stock BMW. like for like the camaro is 10k more.
>>14752270
The camaro doesn't even have leather. You can't just compare engines you stupid tripfag. 2SS is the only one comparable.
>>14752297
False, people just assume it's behind the mirror's field of view when actually it's in front of it. Anons just assume a blind spot is anything you cant see by turning your head. Blind spots are determined by mirror position, size, and adjustment. Fgts apparently failed that question on their driver's test.
>>14752297
Confirmed for bus rider. If you had ever driven a vehicle a considerable amount of miles you'd be aware blind spots are fucking real.
>>14752344
False. Adjust your mirrors so that there is no blind spot in the rear and use your head to look out the fucking side window. Anyone who isn't a retard has their rear view mirrors and side mirrors adjusted perfectly with zero overlap. Those mirrors are adjusted stupidly. Not as bad as the people with three mirrors all pointed straight back but still stupid.
>>14752344
False. There are cars you can position your mirrors whatever the fucking way you want and they will still have a blindspot.
Another faggot confirmed for a bus rider.
>>14752353
Don't drive shit cars.
>>14752349
I drive a convertible. I know how to adjust my mirrors since I can't see shit if I try to use my head.
Is everyone here retarded?
>>14752344
In that image you are always able to see cars that are in a dangerous location. Any blind spots are at an irrelevant distance.
>>14751447
>>14751466
>>14751867
>>14752132
the tall ones always get headshotted first
>>14752350
>>14752353
>>14752384
First, that image has unrealisticly narrow fields of view. Second, that is still a car in your mirror. Are you people too retarded to recognize a part of a car and need to see the whole thing? No relevant blind spots, your own picture proves you wrong.
>>14752396
The picture is telling you to use your eyes and look as the car moves out of your field of view you dumbass.
>>14752349
what the hell does mileage has to do with blindspots
>>14752404
K, thats my whole point. There are no blindspots. What you mirrors don't see you can see with your head looking out your side window. If you have blind spots, you can't adjust your mirrors for shit.
>>14752424
>>14752353
Semantics, I consider a blind spot what you cant see with your mirrors or without turning your head. Turn your head and the blindspot is reduced, but until you do you cant see there, hence it's a blindspot. See >>14752384
>>14752357
No. You're the one retarded. Blind spots exist and mirror configuration can only minimize it. But they're there. THATS WHY THEY ARE CALLED FUCKING BLINDSPOTS.
>>14752417
Experience and experiences.
>>14752424
Wrong. Blindspots exist.
>>14752450
Sure. Because on the highway at 75 you'll be turning your head.
>>14752450
But there is no blind spot, you can still see part of the car no matter where it is located. You don't NEED to see the entire vehicle. Any blind spots in that image are at a distance which makes them irrelevant as it won't affect lane changes.
>>14752451
Learn to adjust your mirrors.
>>14752455
Learn to adjust your mirrors and yes, turn your head on the highway you dipshit. How terrible of a driver are you.
For the last time, a blindspot is an area where a vehicle can COMPLETELY disappear from view and you would collide with it during a lane change. No one said you can see the whole world behind you with mirrors. If you adjust your mirrors properly there is no such thing as a blindspot which would impede lane changes.
>>14752455
>Because on the highway at 75 you'll be turning your head
Literally every day. You don't? Or am I setting you up for a convex mirror trap card post?
>>14751906
>projecting lanklet detected
>>14752466
You fucking idiot. Adjusting mirrors doesn't do miracles. There are blindspots even after you adjust your fucking mirrors the most wide arrangement possible.
You clearly haven't fucking driven long enough or an enough number of vehicles to realize that and that only makes you look and even bigger douchebag for trying to prove something that is dead wrong from fucking ever.
>>14752474
Only when I'm unsure of something. Otherwise that's what mirrors are for.
Or do you fucking really turn your head every single fucking time you're going to overtake someone?
Get the fuck out namefag.
>all these fucks talking about blindspots
>not having peripheral vision
>not just taking note of the traffic around you
>IE the order of the other vehicles, the different speeds, where sounds are coming from
I don't shoulder check half the time I change lanes because I keep track of where everything is
>>14752486
You are an idiot sir. No vehicle will ever fully disappear from your mirrors when it is located in a position you would collide with it when changing lanes. Ever. If you have blindspots you either can't adjust your mirror for shit or you have a retardedly designed car with shitty mirrors.
>>14752499
Too bad reality proves you otherwise.
>>14752499
Oh so you have driven every car ever and can say this with confidence?
>>14752499
How has it been bus riding so far?
Hahaha haha typical Chevy denial, visibility worse than a abram tank
>>14752511
Don't drive shit cars then anon? I don't know what to tell you i've never had a blindspot because I point my mirrors wide with no overlap and turn my head.
>>14752517
Sure sweetie.
>>14752511
Learn to adjust your mirrors. Any blindspots will be at irrelevant distances.
Jesus christ, none of you have your mirrors adjusted right. Zero overlap, minimal to no missing FOV between the three mirrors. Turn your fucking head.
>>14752537
Adjusting mirrors isn't a fucking miracle. And I'd bet even with your wizard adjustments your car still has a blindspot. It's actually more probable that not having. Only issue is, you haven't been faced with a situation where you noticed it.
You're fucking dumb to cancerous levels.
>>14752537
Yes, we do. You just haven't driven every car, faggot.
>>14752569
Then buy a convex mirror if your car is so shitty a whole entire vehicle disappears and you'll hit them changing lanes. If not, those aren't blindspots.
>>14752568
You can walk completely around my vehicle and I can see you the whole way with either mirrors or just looking out my driver's window. This isn't rocket science. How the fuck do you think I adjusted my mirrors? So all three have no loss of FOV, then you slowly bump out the side mirrors more until any loss of vision between them is so small a car cannot disappear, blindly, in them, if you need to due to a huge B pillar. If your mirrors have any overlap you are doing it wrong. If you can see the side of your car in your side mirrors you are doing it wrong.
>>14751447
I'm taller than you. Visibility sucks in modern pony cars. Don't brag about your height, it's unbecoming, and there's always someone taller than you.
>>14752657
>camaro fangirls come from /v/
no wonder it looks like a transformer, its aimed at manchildren
>>14751447
This you, nigga?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=450103cf5a4
>>14752589
So you're saying that some cars do have blindspots but its because they are shitty?
>>14752702
idk, i've never driven a vehicle in my life where i couldn't adjust my mirrors to where there was a BLIND spot that a car could disappear in that i would hit changing lanes.
if such a vehicle does exist buy a fucking covex mirror. i don't see semi trucks plowing into cars when they change lanes.
>>14751880
He's a big guy
>>14752166
>>14752166
lel .2 seconds for half the price AND it's faster than in a line? This is what happens when your company's design team becomes dominated by refugees.
What happened to BMW that it can't even beat a camaro anymore?
>>14752747
Wow its almost like you are paying for more than just sheer numbers when you buy an M4. Who the fuck would have ever thought than an M4 is not a budget sports car. My mind is fucking blown man.
>>14752730
You fucking idiot. Blindspots aren't near the vehicle. Walking around it and adjusting mirrors does nothing to avoid blindspots.
They exist by nature you stupid fuck.
You can only reduce their presence but they'll always be there.
I just hope you never ram someone cause you're one entitled prick that thinks he knows it all.
>>14752925
Sure buddy, that big scary car is totally going to disappear behind me. Turn your fucking head. Any blindspot that isn't fucking within one lane of me doesn't matter in the slightest. I'm just trying to change lanes, not know if someone is a lane over 50 yards back.
Hey guy in the red shirt
At chick fil a
>>14753018
I see him.
>>14753025
Oh shit you too?
>>14753033
By mill Ave? Yup. Big dude in red
>>14752998
You fucking idiot blindspots are there WHEN YOU DON'T FUCKING TURN YOUR HEAD TO START WITH BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT NOTHING WAS THERE, EITHER BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T SEE IT COMING ON THE MIRROR, YOU DIDN'T LISTEN IT OR ANYTHING ELSE SIMILAR YOU FUCKING DUMB PIECE OF SHIT.
YOU DON'T TURN YOUR HEAD 100% OF TIMES NEITHER DO YOUR MIRRORS COVER PERFECTLY 100% OF YOUR SURROUDING YOU SHIT EATING COON.
>>14752382
Go away oddjob
>>14752747
>STILL this asshurt the BMW is faster
lol americucks on suicide watch
No it's just every fucking car these days has small windows
>>14752133
The results are so close to eachother they easily may as well tie. if you are going to count .x seconds as quicker and worth almost 40K more then you are a bench racing cuck.
>shit sounding engine
>cloth seats
>no backup camera
> literally a money pit after warranty is kill
>80k
>>14753062
No, I turn my head 100% of the time because I'm not fucking retarded.
See? No blind spots. I'm moving over one lane not doing a Saudi sweep
>>14754143
>cloth seats
literally 1k option. and base price is far, far below 80k you autist
>>14751877
I don't want to defend this windowless bar of soap, but:
>comparing lap times from only one circuit, not even considering conditions or drivers
>>14754236
>>comparing lap times from only one circuit, not even considering conditions or drivers
Well, the Camaro and M4 were done pretty much back to back by Randy Pobst. But even he said that a half a tank of gas could be worth a tenth of a second on that track, so 0.21s is pretty much within the noise.
>>14751877
god damn I don't like either car and this still triggers me
are you the same autist who used to post about the GT-R vs. C7 every day?
![4669165-1429297375844[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4uSkr7Y.jpg "4669165-1429297375844[1].jpg")
>>14754291
>autist
there are several of us m8
we control the shitposting here
