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What if you took a 3 cylinder car and added a turbocharger to each individual exhaust port, then routed all the turbos into one big "after-turbo manifold"?

Would this make it possible to produce 300HP on 3 cylinders?
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>>14735396
yes you stupid faggot it's called a wankel engine
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>>14735396
>inb4 DEI
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>>14735396
>What if you took a 3 cylinder car and added a turbocharger to each individual exhaust port, then routed all the turbos into one big "after-turbo manifold"?

You'd end up with a lot of heavy parts making not much boost
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>>14735396
What if you stapled tapeworms on your penis?
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>>14735413
That would be uncomfortable.
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I doubt you'd get enough exhaust gas flow to spin the individual turbos properly.
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how much displacement does this 3 cylinder have?

you would also need some custom turbos made, because even the smallest of production turbos made would not be suitable for this application.

as another anon has said, depending on displacement, getting enough exhaust flow to even spool the turbos up would be an issue.

so, say it was a 1l 3cylinder with VGT turbos of a very small size.. then maybe, but the gains would be neglible compared to just putting a single turbo on that would spool properly.
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>>14735410
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The rule is one turbo per head. Anything more and your wasting your time, money, and power.
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>>14735396
Someone did this using those tiny ass turbos that are used on Smart cars, but I always assumed it was more for show than for actual performance
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>>14735829
they pretty much spool on idle but other than that it seems like a real clusterfuck to cool and pipe
>tiny ass turbo
garrett gt06 comes to mind
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Keked at the last line
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>>14735847
This looks like an old hakuna post.
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>>14735470
Heres one for small bike engines. Slap a few of these one and you're golden
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>>14736004
Consider me corrected.

Note: this turbo is suitable for 125cc to 600cc engines. Engines that are too small would not have enough air flow to push the turbo to generate meaningful boost.

http://www.ecotrons.com/products/small_engine_rhb31_vz21_turbocharger/

So, to update, yeah, its doable. Again, the amount of displacement from said 3 cylinder is what will determine the usefulness of this, but shit, slap three of those on and go nuts
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That's gonna need 3 wastegates, and it's going to be a mess. Can be done but will be an inefficient mess.

Single turbo would be more efficient than three small turbos fed from a single exhaust pulse.
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why not just go Nissan and get 400hp from a 3 cylinder
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>>14736495
that is correct, however, no where near as cool as triple turbod triple cylinder
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>>14735401
... What?
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>>14736521
What does this come in?
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>>14738072
A delta-type race car. Nothing production, yet. I seriously doubt anything like that would ever see a high volume application, especially considering Nissan is being cucked by the French right now.
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>>14735396
That's been done, but you'll need turbos with a relatively high A/R to make high end power, which usually means they'll need to be big. Putting several small turbos directly on the exhaust ports will be fantastic for spool time but won't do anything for your high HP goal.
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>>14738084
Seems like a good concept for a crate motor.

Really small and light, good power, probably ok on fuel.

It would be a good candidate for small car swaps like Miata MR2 etc.
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>>14735505
is-is this a good idea? like does this actually achieve good results? I mean turbos don't weigh that much, although this nigguh doesnt have intercooling going on, I imagine you would probably need a lot.
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>>14735413
It would be extremely painful.
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>>14738084
whats going on with Nissan? nothing mentioned in s chasis or datsun general.
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>>14738196
>this nigguh doesnt have intercooling going on
Integrate a water to air intercooler into the intake manifold and you're set.
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>>14738196
>although this nigguh doesnt have intercooling going on
the intercooler goes between the turbo and the intake, which ins't connected in that picture.
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>>14738196
Its a very good idea. Won't be great at low rpm as you ultimately want a setup that is going to be spinning the turbo as you need air, which would require having the intake valve sucking air while the exhaust valves pushes exhaust gas which isn't possible without routing turbos to other inlets and such. But at higher rpm the turbos are going to stay spooled and be very efficient.
The piping required to intercool a setup like this is going to require extensive tubing which is going to add a substantial amount of weight and take up a LOT of space.
This setup should essentially just be less efficient than a single turbo with the same intake/exhaust volume because there are more moving parts to lose energy in and it is much easier to setup an intercooler for a single turbo.
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>>14735986
a what
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>>14738228
>The piping required to intercool a setup like this is going to require extensive tubing
Or you could just have them all go into one pipe and then run that to a single cooler
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>>14738212
its 4 turbo's man, they would be making a ton of heat I really doubt just that would cool them. only one turbo can get hot enough to boil brake fluid.
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>>14735413
It would drink the brainjuice from your fucking fetus.
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>>14738249
Turbos by themselves don't create heat, it's the additional energy you get from forcing more air into the engine, allowing more fuel to be burned effectively that creates the extra heat over an NA engine.
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Well there is a reason you're called shitpost guy and you just reaffirm it with every thread.
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>>14738348
No it's not even that. It's just because when you compress air it gets more energy, and the particles will be bouncing closer, and faster, which generates heat.
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>>14738348
As an obstruction for the exhaust gases, they convert kinetic energy to heat energy and thus heat up, though I cede that compressing air also creates heat, and a lot more of it.

t. not idiot
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>>14738405
>>14738407
he's clearly not talking about heat from compression.
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>>14738417
That's the only significant heat generated in a turbo setup though.
He wasn't talking about heat from compression, he was talking shit.
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>>14738428
>That's the only significant heat generated in a turbo setup though.
No
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What about adding 12 turbos to a car with a V12?
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>>14738446
I'd be happy with 4
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>>14738446
what about a triple-supercharged straight 10?
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>>14738405
>>14738407
Oops, forgot to physics.
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>>14738239
nuh man, youd ultimately want to run that engine in an RR or MR config, with a V Pipe intake.. like pic attached.

Run two intercoolers on the edges..

shit nigga..

like pic related, but with the cylinders 1 and 3 intake goes left.. 2 and 4 go right. Or 1 and 4, and 2 and 3.. depending on crank rotation..
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>>14738599
damn

turbos seem simple at first but they get so complicated so fast
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>>14738676
anything can be simple, or anything can be difficult my nigga.

try a twin compound turbo and supercharger setup like pic related.

blue for intake
red for exhaust
green for im not 100% if its correct
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>>14738759
Jesus dude.
I'm looking to turbocharge my RX8, and I expected it to be relatively easy. I thought it would be just like installing a turbo on a 4 cylinder, just with different shaped manifolds, but I guess I'm way off.
I can barely even find information with it.

Maybe I'll just try to turbo a KA motor or a Miata, those seem pretty easy and cheap to do.
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>>14735396
Nearly the same thing as 1 big turbo feeded with 3 exhaust port.
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>>14735413
Feel the blood gushing from your anus
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>>14738803
man, rotary turboing is as simple as piss. if its a 13b from an RX8 you are dealing with 4 exhaust ports and three headers. its a bit different to like rx7 with its peripheral port, but its even easier on a rotary.

im looking into a Turbo RX8 project next year, going to the same route, or possibly just buying a 13B from an RX7.
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>>14738203
For you
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>>14735396
It would be much better to have 3 cylinders feeding one turbo, then each cylinder feeding it's own turbo.

The reason is exhaust pressure, and the fact that one cylinder by itself doesn't make the adequate pressure to drive a turbo in the lower rpms.

a 3 cyl stays pretty high in the rpm, so small enough turbos and one custom intake manifold you might get away with it.
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>>14738803
>>14738898
turbo-ing a rotary is conceptually simple, but requires lower compression rotors and such. turbocharged renesis's are not known for their longevity either.

You might as well swap in a turbo II 13B.
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>>14735396
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