>$55k pricetag
Talk me out of this before I do something terribly rash /o/
http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/alfa-romeo/4c
Fantastic little car that sounds like shit.
>>14732046
Doot.
>>14732069
But it seems like it'd be fun as fuck to drive
>>14732105
Oh yeah, everyone says its a blast to drive. But theres one around where I live, and I dont know if something's broken, but it sounds like a washing machine full of gravel when the guy floors it.
Manual steering, right?
>dropping 55k on an italian roadster
well sure if you're a millionaire, do it.
>>14732143
Is the upkeep ridiculous?
>>14732123
Yeah no power steering
>>14732143
This
It's like American reliability + German repair costs, excepts worse in both respects
>>14732046
get the new guilia, it sounds like sex
>>14732146
its a fuckin alfa
the best thing you can do is run it until the warranty is gone and sell it to a dumbass enthusiast.
>>14732046
Used 911
>>14732147
but it's one of the prettiest things on the road, and a driver's car
>>14732179
Just looked it up, it does look sexy
I may get the base model if ti's cheap enough just to be a special snowflake (after it's been out for a few years and they work the kinks out)
>>14732046
>>14732210
I went to a Alfa dealer last week and they said they couldn't get the base model in the states
>>14732242
For the 4c?
>>14732146
Alfa's are art pieces that sometimes are also capable of driving.
>>14732249
yes, I was looking at the 4c, but the money to value is totally ridiculous
>>14732265
The 55k is the only one I'd spring for, I'm not about to drop 70k on one for a premium model
>>14732264
kek
>>14732289
I agree, but the cheapest one they found was 58k and it was 1500 miles away.
>>14732299
Damn, well 2015 was the first year they released them in the US
They'll be more widely available as production ramps up
>>14732046
Its an alfa romeo. If you are so much of a faggot cuck that the brand alone doesn't make you stop wanting it then you could try suicide instead.
There are GTR32 in the states sold for half the pricetag.
>1600 cc
>>14732351
No OP
The GTR32 is old and a poor person's dream car.
>>14732046
buy a second hands cayman gen 2 instead, seriously.
>>14732367
Maybe it is. But its still better than a fucking alfa romeo and its still half the price.
>>14732351
Alfa Romero isn't the best brand in terms of reliability, but leave it to a ricebox kiddy to craft such a butthurt shitpost
>>14732380
how? One looks like a old honda civic and the other one looks like a exotic. Only dudes really know what a R32 is.
ITT: knowers of the 4C
how do you know this car so well, if there are only 3500 in the world?
>>14732046
there are two at my university. cool shits
>>14732384
>but leave it to a ricebox kiddy to craft such a butthurt shitpost
How about someone who knows something about alfa romeos other than what magazines write? cant talk about their top line models, but anything civilian or domestic from them is usually absolute shit in terms of reliability, power, handling, and on top of that, extreme pricetags.
>>14732391
>One looks like a old honda civic and the other one looks like a exotic
One of them is a 280hp twin turbo car that could work. The other is an overrated 240hp italian piece of shit that doubles the price.
Hell, i think even some NISMO GTR 35 could be sold in the US for around 50k?
>>14732046
just get a miata
>>14732046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqmM5-MisYI
Never driven one, so I can't say why you wouldn't like it. But this guy might be able to.
>>14732412
>R35 nismo for 50k
Oh, you mean this one?
>>14732425
6,599$ needs work cold a/c VERY HOT heater no lowballers
>>14732425
i have no clue about US pricetags, anon. All i know is that where i live your average brand new chevy spark is sold at 30k
>>14732444
Doesn't matter where you're from in the world, you won't find a nismo r35 for anywhere near the equivalent of $50k.
>>14732046
Wait till next year and get a Tesla Model S for 20k cheaper
There's no point in being gas cars new any more, their days are numbered
>>14732476
Go away newtrip you're the cancer of the entire website
Fuck coff to Facebook or reddit
>4c
>55k
never going to happen
>700 for grey
>1500 for red
>3500 for any leather
>1400 for cruise control/rear parkaids
>1600 destination charge
>50k miles warranty
>>14732484
I'm a widely respected automotive expert
I've seen like every episode of Motorweek ever
>>14732476
Holy shit out of all the gay things a tripfags could have said you said the most retarded thing ever.
>>14732412
>he thinks a 25 year old high tech performance car will be reliable just because it's japanese
don't you have a cartoon pillow to hug?
>>14732506
Not because its japanese, faggot. But the 4C will most likely be less reliable BECAUSE its an alfa romeo.
>>14732489
Holy shit that's some next level Jewery
I guess the 55k is like the bait and switch price where they slap on another 10k+ in "features" that are standard in most cars built in civilized countries
>>14732501
>oil industry shill
Your days are numbered Ahamed
>>14732514
>provides zero proof
>>14732069
You could always put something like this on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlHK02FIm9k
>>14732517
>electric hipster faggot
Go back to starbucks, xie human
>muh driver's feels
>automatic
>>14732524
>what is brand history
>>14732069
>sounds like shit
What kind of drug are you on? Seriously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGxagmu9XNM
>>14732514
Alfa's work just fine if you maintain them, I've had my 156 3.2 for 5 years and nothing bar the exhaust has needed replaced on it yet. Your average r32 will have been modded and thrashed by an idiot.
>>14732544
Awd gtrs have never been reliable
Nissan reliability for their econoboxes is even subpar by jap standards
>>14732544
>don't make this difficult just believe me!
>>14732540
Xie is the plural form
Learn my pronouns shitlord
>>14732542
But it's got paddle shifters like a real Ferrari!
>>14732555
they sound only slightly better than the average sportscar.
Hell, the fucking 4A-GE sounds better.
>>14732555
sounds terrible. no quality, only loudness
>>14732574
>4A-GE
It' a NA engine vs a turbocharged.
NA is always better.
>>14732046
Why would you want an inferior Lotus?
>>14732623
Italian black and tan leather.upholstery.
>>14732623
It's the same thing we ask ourselves about you: why keep sucking dicks when you can have pussy instead?
>>14732555
I hate that farting upshift sound new cars have now
>>14732623
THIS. Get a Lotus Exige Sport 350 OP.
Just buy an M2
>>14732623
They are illegal in the U.S. new
>>14732658
>cars have now
It's the sound of the fuel cut that happens when the dual clutch gearbox changes gear.
>>14732771
no it's done deliberately to sound """""sporty"""""
completely unnecessary
>>14732046
Either get an Elise or a Cayman.
Getting the 4C is like tattoing on your forehead: "I'm an idiot".
>>14732771
There are plenty of cars with DCT's that don't sound like that
>>14732046
Buy a C7 Corvette instead.
>>14732844
A non-shit C7 AKA Magnetic ride, Z51, Premium interior costs at least 65k.
>>14732888
It's 10k more car, easily
>>14732517
How are any of those standard on any car? BMW for instance in the i3 offers their cars standard with cloth, and leather as an option. And for all the others.. literally every car maker charges for that shit like the colors and such.
Also this thread in general is dumb, people are talking about a car yet they have never experienced one or have any idea of what the car is like, you might as well just discuss how the fucking thing looks.
>>14732319
>They'll be more widely available as production ramps up
Unfortunately they wont. The convertible will, but the coupe is done due to airbag regulations. Same thing killed the Evora and Viper.
>>14732396
>how do you know this car so well, if there are only 3500 in the world?
I looked into it a lot myself. Still too expensive for what it is, but I want one anyway.
>>14732542
>muh driver's feels
>automatic
Also this. Given how no-frills the car is, it should have a manual transmission.
>>14732046
yuropean faggot
>>14733011
Best counter argument desu
>>14732046
Is it your only car?
I wouldn't DD that, it lacks the utility I have from my fiesta.
If it's your second car, go for it.
>Light, handles like an angel
>Enough power to be fun.
>Alfa engine, sounds quite nice but not even close to some other alfa engines.
>Looks amazing.
Literally the kind of dream car I would have to go on rides at night or on mountain roads.
>>14733023
>Literally the kind of dream car I would have to go on rides at night or on mountain roads.
>>14733023
Probably the most sensible comment here, congrats. Though I don't feel like you belong on 4chan.
>>14733011
>car from the least gay friendly nation not in the third world
>58k
>237hp
how about fucking no.
Hold out for the new Dino
>>14733373
>the new Dino
You're a fucking idiot.
>>14732046
>http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/alfa-romeo/4c
>turbo
I would rather take a reliable used lotus with a Toyota N/A engine
>>14733655
It wasn't my idea
get a lotus and use the leftover 15-20k on mods
>>14733342
>sounds like a multiair but worse
Worst thing about it desu
>>14732367
This >>14732367
>>14734949
That's not a Lotus man
>>14732105
It's not. Your hands will literally bleed.
>>14732319
The 74k version is the "Launch Model". They won't have a "Re-launch Model" next year.
>>14735160
but it is a Lotus
>>14735181
No its not, it's an Hennessay, look at how long the rear end is
>>14735252
>a LWB lotus is a lotus
its a lotus with a v8 shovved in the back
>>14735306
Still not Lotus, one it's a 400km/h hypercar that cannot turn and the other is a superlight sporcar. They have nothing in common apart from the look
not him, but i think the last 2 words of this post might have just proved his point
>>14735419
referring to >>14735391
>>14733023
>fiesta
>utility
Stop lying to yourself
>>14732046
here in aus they are like 100+ brand new lol
2nd hand are 80ish
worst part of it for me is the rear. i hate the lights and general back. looks very cheap
>>14735419
So you are saying that a Ferrari and a Fiero with a bodykit are the same
>>14732542
Manual steering>automatic transmission.
It's disgusting how automotive "enthusiasts" get all sensitive about automatic transmissions robbing feel, yet barely making noise when Electric power steering and it's non existent road feel became the norm. If anything, automatic transmissions have the advantage than you can keep both hands on the steering wheel more of the time.
>>14732500
Bad b8 m8, not gr8 at all
>>14732069
You never heard one IRL.
>>14732046
Just get a Lotus Elise.
Cheaper, more reliable, similar design.
>>14736166
>more reliable
There's no way to even know this. The Alfa hasn't been out long enough to determine how reliable they are you nit.
>>14735615
It's just try hard enthusiasts who can't drive for shit so all their "enjoyment" comes from flooring it between stop lights and rowing gears
>>14735615
Electric power steering sucks? It's been great in everything I've driven with it.
Rx8 R3 had wonderful road feel. It's got nothing to do with the design and everything to do with execution. Unlike an automatic tranny, which is less involving by design.
>>14735615
Except the Alfa's steering is widely regarded as a weak point.
Simply making it manual doesn't automatically make it good if you get the rest wrong.
>>14736205
RX8 has a hydraulic rack.
>>14736217
Actually, the alfa's steering is regarded as being a weakpoint because it's too heavy, which is not bad from an enthusiast point of view. Blame reviewers being used to power steering.
>>14732143
>roadster
>>14732391
>Only dudes really know what a R32 is.
So you're buying a car to show off, not to perform?
r32 gtr's are fucking insane when you start doing work to them.
>>14736782
No it's considered a weak point because it can't track straight and lacks feel. Blame Alfa for failing on the basics of chassis tuning.
ITT: tons of biased bullshits
One of the best "affordable" mid engine sportscar of the last decade has got a bad chassis and steering, according to /o/ fat fucks.
AYY LMAO
>>14736833
>Can't track straight
Actually that is due to the optional handling package the early reviewers drove which is too agressive for the road, the regular version is nicer. Lacking feel compared to pretty much any new car is just plainly wrong though.
>>14737175
Too be fair, alfa is known for making cars that feel that handle better than they actually handle (one reason why lap times are disappointing)
tfw you can just buy that targa-miata
>>14737478
>Lacking feel compared to pretty much any new car is just plainly wrong though
yeah like modern cars with epas are a benchmark for feelsome steering.
>>14737749
...that's exactly the point. Reviewers complaining that the alfa 4C lacks feel literally cannot praise the steering feel on any other new car.
>>14732046
>reading TG reviews
I hope you're aware Top Gear is an entertainment show.
>>14738143
wait, are you admitting the alfa 4C has shit steering?
>>14738186
You are reading the opposite of what it's actually there. I'm saying that the steering of the alfa 4C has more feel than literally any other new car, because nearly all of them are equipped with EPS.
>>14738393
several reviews say the opposite
