Less then 20 years ago. A sedan weighed just over 2000lbs
And yet their fuel milage was worse.
>>14731936
crash it, and find out why.
>>14731936
Less than 2 years ago. Your mom weight just over 2000lbs.
>>14731944
Imagine a modern engine in that... Like say a 1nzfe
50mpg all day long.
>>14731949
I have crashed one. Held up just fine.
Also crashed into one. Was perfectly fine
>>14731936
Thats a 20 year old car OP.
>>14731984
1997 was the last E100
>>14731936
But anon, that sedan still weighs the same today.
>>14731992
and 1993 was the first
>>14731949
It's the pedestrian safety shit that fucks up the weight and forces manufacturers to make cars that look like shit.
>>14732009
This.
What if cars stayed the same weight. Engine tech improved, and pedestrians stayed out of the fucking road.
>>14731936
>1996 Accord I4 (base model)
>2855 lbs
>22/29 mpg
>130 HP
>185.6 in.
>2016 Civic I4 (base model)
>2742 lbs
>27/40 mpg
>158 HP
>182.3 in
Wow you're full of shit
>>14732073
>A sedan
Not all of them.
Just under 3000lbs is not just over 2000lbs.
>>14731983
>Imagine a modern engine in that... Like say a 1nzfe
>1NZ-FE
>modern
That engine has been unchanged for 16 years.
>>14732073
Why don't you compare it to a civic you mong
>>14732095
More modern than the 4afe which is a 30ish year old engine
>>14732073
B8 or mentally retarded.
>civic-compact
>accord midsize.
Eat a dick
>>14732136
back in the 90's the Accord was compact and the Civic was subcompact. The Civic became a compact in 2001, around the time the Accord went mid-size.
>>14731936
>>14731953
>>14732073
>>14732093
How much are these in Rest-of-the-World units?
90s sti, 1250kg
2015 sti, 1500kg
Lol
>>14732097
Why, they are the same size?
Do you not understand the physical properties of matter?
>>14731936
>2015 Scion IA - 2300 lbs
>>14732073
>Comparing a sedan to a coupe.
>>14732211
>slower than a corolla from the 90s
>>14732862
except the Corolla of the 90's was a bigger car. Compare it to a base model EG or EK Civic sedan and then it'll be fair
It gets worse:
1988 BMW 325is
>length 170.3"
>width 64.8"
>height 54.3"
>wheelbase 101.2"
>weight 2,865lbs
2016 BMW 335i
>length 183"
>width 72"
>height 55"
>wheelbase 110.6"
>weight 3,635lbs
I took my E30 to a cars and Coffee and a new 328 parked next to me, giant, fat car.
>>14732862
It's more comparable to a Toyota Tercel with the 1.5L engine desu senpai.
>>14732932
Tercel... With far less HP?
No
>>14733616
The Tercel is in the same size class as the iA (subcompact. The Corolla was a compact), and has the same engine displacement.
>but power output
things change with time. The Corolla has a 1.8L and a horsepower advantage.
Quit being retarded.
>>14732157
2000 burgers is about 900kg
Semantics aside, most sedans 20years ago used to be somewhere between 1300-1600kg, which is a lot more burgers.
>>14732929
It gets worse when you find out that the '84 318i was ±2400 lbs.
>>14731936
Cars have gotten heavier but 90s cars but your just over 2000 lbs for a sedan is stretch
both civics and corollas weighed 2400 lbs, and thats with tiny backseats
>>14733715
>tfw my 1993 automatic, body on frame, transfer case 4x4, 29" tire, power everything, seats 4 adults comfortable, 5 OK, 9 in a pinch, 5'8" tall vehicle only weighed
>2,800 lbs
>>14733766
>normal midsize cars will never be under 3000lb's again
Fucking why? We have Bonded Alum and Carbon fiber tubs and they are STILL 3700 how the actual fuck?
>>14733795
There's hope for the mid-sizers. The recent 2016 Malibu redesign is a perfect example. Just over 3,000 lbs (3086 lbs) in 1.5L Turbo form.
http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/malibu/2016/st-200731219/features-specs/
>>14733795
Sound deadening and airbags systems, yo.
I'm fine with my 2003 sedan weighting 3040 lbs. Decent enough for tossing around
>>14734120
Fucking freight ship
>>14731949
sadly this
cars are dumbed down and people get worse and worse at driving
>Drive LT4 Vette from 96
>Curb almost 3300 lbs
>Handling still better than sex
>>14734169
> drive 96 civic
> curb almost 2700lbs
> handling better than your c4
>>14734172
We have identified the Hondatard who thinks all Honda engines make 200 HP per L.
>>14734192
> thinks all Honda engines make 200 HP per L
why would anybody think that?
we were talking about handling
>>14734172
>>14734212
listen bud, if you think your fat track toy can take my shitbox on a tiny mountain road filled with hairpins, you've got another thing coming
>>14734221
okay you win :(
But the Mirage weighs at 2,018lbs with more room than any of those older cars? Canada also has the Micra as well...
>>14734251
probably an automatic too right?
>>14734260
The point is nameplates that made their name on how small and efficient they were. Now they're giant fat tanks.
>>14732530
>civic
>coupe
>>14734283
Six speed, actually. 350hp cause poorfag and can't afford anything over 10,000 dollars
>>14734288
Blame the manufacture not because of safety rules
>>14734283
>Buys a corvette
>Automatic
Like anyone would actually do something like that
>>14734356
C4s are pretty hard to find with manuals
and mostly old white people
>>14733806
B-but my 15 year old car has all of these and its a 3700pound V8
seriously wtf
How do they just put hundres of pounds on vehicles?
>>14731949
retards like you are why cars have a ton and a half's worth of safety equipment nowadays
Less then a hundred years ago a sedan weighed 7000 pounds!
>>14734172
>drive '91 civic
>curb almost 2200
>your shitbox doesn't handle better than a corvette
![Bugatti_Type_41_(Royale)_Coup%C3%A9_Napoleon[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VYdso23.jpg "Bugatti_Type_41_(Royale)_Coup%C3%A9_Napoleon[1].jpg")
>>14734447
>12.7 liter straight 8 that was originally planned to be 15 liters
>>14734452
> never drove his car on the touge
lol
handling is not grip, nerd
>>14734413
>>14734422
Its true tho faggot. I ride a sportbike and while I hate what cars have become the last decade I do appreciate the inherent safety on my daily drive with the rest of you fucks on the interstate. Still should be a choice however. Enjoy getting t-boned with no side airbags fuckwit.
>>14734527
I have been. Also been rear ended at high speed. And rolled a car.
All Toyotas from the 90s.
Never had anything more than whiplash.
>>14734536
Congrats. If you actually think those cars are safer than new cars you are fucking delusional. Sometimes progress comes at the detriment of enjoyment. It is what it is, but even you can't deny cars are safer than they have ever been. A 1990s car isn't even road legal today.
>>14734469
>thinks his fwd can keep up with something like this
and i've never too gayed, i don't live in japan
and a civic is better suited for back roads, but that's just not being fair to the vette. its out of its comfort zone
like a d15 on the interstate
>>14734565
Do you have any idea how dumb you sound?
>>14734577
It sounds like you can't accept it isn't the 1990's anymore? If only you could turn back time right? Stop being a poorfag, get over it, and enjoy new cars for what they are. Not all are soulless shit, and those that are get god tier gas mileage.
>>14734527
>I ride a sportbike
I'm so sorry for your loss.
>>14734629
don't worry your dipshit girlfriend hasn't pulled out in front of me yet. also what kind of a queer doesn't like sport bikes and sport cars? why would I own anything but? do you drive a buick and ride a harley gramps?
>>14732932
>tercel
>>14734645
Don't lump Buick in with Harley, faggot.
>>14734656
True tho buddy. Only good Harley is a Buell and they were too fast for the grandfather buyers of the marque so they killed it.
Buy a real bike if you've any self respect.
>>14732044
there are places that are doing the right thing
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/columns/2013/07/12/distracted-texting-rises-pedestrian-deaths/GGNWwpjuVDM6aEPf08PuoI/story.html
>>14734567
plenty of touges in california
corvettes are pretty cool gotta be honest, but it wouldn't feel right if i can't drive it hard on a backroad without killing myself
