So.. Question.. I drive a 2000 pontiac grand prix gt. Its not a bad little car as long as you keep up with it considering its not the best and it's old. My question: I think it would be cool to own a GTP but instead of hunting down and buying a GTP should I just supercharge my GT? Wanting to supercharge a grand prix may sound dumb and like a bad idea to some which is why I'm here for,opinions lol
At least one of you on here should totally help me make up my mind
Alone??????
>>14729492
Buy a regal gs instead
>>14729614
That would certainly be better but being 18 and working almost minimum wage on top of needing to hold money to help with housing for college.... it takes a minute to save up for a decent running car lol. Hell it takes a minute to have any money to get involved with anything that's got a motor
>grand prix
>dumb idea
Yes, it is a dumb idea, and I think you were a dumb idea from your dad for not pulling out
>>14729741
God I so honestly wish he would have pulled lmao life is stupid. Well, what do you suggest for me if I want something to modify and tune up etc etc.. On a tight budget too
>>14729773
cold air intake bro. adds like 50 hp at least (to the wheels, of course)
>>14729632
You just answered your own question, then. The s/c 3800 has a different bottom end than the n/a, so you'd be looking at a motor swap plus pcm plus injectors at least, which including labor would be more than finding a stock s/c. Regals are cheaper than the Pontiac equivalent, because Buick. I got pic related for 1450 @ 117k miles.
>>14729783
Dude bro it actually adds like 60hp and almost another 47ft/lbs of torque because racecar intake broham
>>14729789
I Honestly never knew they were different. I was wondering if the entire front end of the n/a and s/c car are different too (more reinforced from factory with supercharger) because I was under the impression (also a little too hopeful of it working) that a majority of it was the same but thanks for correcting me. I've been keeping an eye out for a supercharged regal for some time now and so far no luck. My buddy's mom drives one but not for sale.
>>14729789
This is most certainly false. ZZPerformance sells what they call a "top swap kit". Just go to their site and check it out
>>14729923
Seems that the bottom end is the same, I stand corrected. Either way, that's the gasket set only (all I was able to find) so you'd still need the head on up, so if you can find a cheap stock s/c, you're better off. The front end is the same though - you'll have a different instrument cluster most likely too... Unless you can source parts and labor under 1500, I wouldn't recommend converting your GT to a GTP
>>14729960
No the bottom end is different. Short block is the same and camshaft is the same. Crank is the same. Pistons are a bit different. To supercharge a NA 3800 you need the heads, injectors, coil packs, injectors, and gaskets. Also you need a heavy duty differential for the 4T65E. If you can't get the heads from a L67, just order zzp's manifold kit. Since the bottom end is slightly different, you will have more horsepower with the supercharger. Higher compression is why.
>>14729970
Also the PCM should be tuned by ZZP. Core swap is fine as long as you send your old one back within a month or so.
>>14729970
Yeah I'd rather get a stock s/c and upgrade that, what a hassle
>>14730175
Its really not a hassel at all. Its quite like the "$500 and a weekend" meme. Only its more than $500 and you dont have to pull your motor and zzp sells a kit that gives you every single thing you will need, and instructions on paper and pdf.
>>14730229
Just got reference
http://zzperformance.com/3800/superchargers-eaton-parts/l36-supercharger-kit.html
Much appreciated info everyone lol. Now I just have to decide whether to do the work and mod my current car, or find something s/c from factory. Pretty much just down to the financial factor as usual.
>>14729492
its been done many times before. They all it a top swap.
http://www.milzymotorsports.com/3800-l36-to-l67-top-swap/
http://zzperformance.com/3800/superchargers-eaton-parts/l36-supercharger-kit.html
