>Learning how to drive after 20
>Taking lessons on a manual car
>Mostly enjoying myself
>At a traffic light
>It turns green
>That pressure when I have to start the car quickly, yet smoothly
>Occasionally get honked at
>Mfw
Why do auto plebs do this? Do they think manual cars have only 2 pedals? Seriously, so rude.
>>14722344
Pay them no mind and next time pull off even slower lel
cant drive manual properly yet and already calling auto drivers plebs
>honking
>ever
Rude desu. People don't honk here at all.
>>14722344
>be me
>learning manual in neighborhood
>finally get the balls to go out alone and during the day, not 2 AM with cops as my only company.
>at stopsign
>almost stall car
>woops, save it
>suvmom pulls up behind me, about 2 seconds later lets out a honk
>the fuck
>reee
>in my anger i do an absolutely fucking perfect pulloff, shift all the way up to 4th down the road
>fuck
>realize I don't know how to into downshifting
so i learned what engine braking was today.
>>14722346
I already take a pretty long time to pull off. I start doing everything as soon as the light goes yellow but I'm very careful because I don't want to stall.
>>14722360
They're plebs because they have the nerve to honk at me, a delightful student driver, when all they have to do in order to get their car moving is letting off a pedal.
>>14722361
I know! I just want to take it easy.
>>14722380
I hate stop signs so much. My instructor keeps taking me to narrow residential streets with a bazillion stop and give way signs, some are on a hill.
>>14722344
git gud fgt
>>14722411
>doesn't know how to drive at 20 years old
>calling anyone else a pleb
>>14722424
Cool ad hominem, nerd. I bet you drive an auto.
>>14722427
git gut
>>14722427
I taught myself how to drove a manual at 15 and have a 5 speed truck and 6 speed car. You're paying somebody to teach you at 20 and you still suck ass. I think you need to rethink trying to insult anyone else you failure.
>>14722411
did it occur that manual drivers could also be honking at you?
>>14722447
Well I'm sorry that you have a tiny penis, but I think that you need to come to terms with that.
>>14722360
Because otherwise rude behavior is only rude when you are able to drive manual?
You should only honk if the person obviously did not realize its green in that situation.
>>14722463
Stay mad you can't drive weeaboo manchild.
>>14722447
Why is he a failure for wanting to learn how to drive and why does age matter at any point? Do you think you're fucking superior just cause you could drive before him? People like you are the worst.
>>14722483
Kek.
>t. another butthurt manchild
>>14722455
No, because manual drivers must remember the time they learned how to drive and therefore they must be patient around student drivers.
>>14722476
But I'm not mad at all, and I can drive pretty well actually. Look, I know that it's frustrating when your penis is so small, but it doesn't mean you have to be rude to people.
if you don't know how to drive a manual you don't deserve to drive anything.
good work on going thru that pressure on the road, keep it up you will nail it in no time.
tip, practise clutch control with one foot only in a industrial area or empty car park.
>>14722447
>>14722483
You sound as if driving manual is a great achievement.
Do you understand that learning to drive requires mostly practice and if you are someone that needs 10h to learn to drive manual its not a greater achievement if you invest these hours age 15 or 20. That's your choice.
Are you a failure compared to me because you seem to have less experience with driving different cars and no motorcycle? Try thinking about if its worth to talk down to someone when what you achieved yourself is minuscule.
>>14722491
>special snowflake faggot expects preferential treatment because muh student driver
>has no actual rebuttal so focuses on cocks like every other waking moment
If you were a good driver nobody would be honking at you and you wouldn't need to pay a teacher.
>>14722500
>teenage angst : the post
>>14722499
Do you even know where you're posting fucktard?
>>14722502
>butthurt manchild: the post
>>14722512
>implying : the post : the legend : the movie : the etc
>>14722505
On a board that keeps eating up my time, but I keep ending up here over and over again because I am a failure. Gladly I am able to feed on the even bigger failures thinking "I am not the worst person out there -nice."
>>14722531
okay maybe this guy has a point you are being a faggot.
>>14722526
You wouldn't respond if you weren't offended by something that was said. Hide it through any greentext you want; it wasn't directed towards you, but you neckbearded all over the place.
>>14722537
nah m8 i just saw teenage angst in textual form and felt the need to point that out.
seems to have worked, you're speaking much more coherently now, eh?
>>14722498
I'd like to do that, but I don't know anyone with a manual car. I guess I could ask my instructor, but I actually manage fine on the road. I just hate it when people honk at me because I don't pull off the second the light turns green.
>>14722500
You do realize that your shitposting was obvious from the very beginning, right? You have no finesse whatsoever.
>>14722531
>it's everyone's fault but mine
>>14722539
You being illiterate is no fault of mine.
>>14722558
>typical teenage retort
you can stop pretending you don't understand my point, you pseudo-illiterate child.
Nobody ever honked at me when I was learning to drive standard even when I stalled.
Where tf you live op? I thought Americans were the rude ones
>>14722553
>doesn't even have a car
>calls me a shitposter
>insults are about dicks
You do realize you being a crybaby manchild was obvious from the beginning right?
>>14722561
>calls me a child because you're buttmad about a post directed towards someone else
Right. And being the mature adult you are, you shut the fuck up and didn't respond, didn't you?
>>14722580
>abloo bloo bloo adults oppressing me
if you would stop being a pseudo-illiterate it wouldn't be a problem, my petulant little chimpanzee.
>Make a cheeky thread
>Respond to a shitposter because I was bored
>All hell breaks loose
I do enjoy the company, though.
>>14722588
hey, atleast you got the dubs.
>>14722586
Tumblr is a much better fit for special people like you. I guess you have to have a superiority complex online to make up for all your inadequacies in real life. Whatever helps you sleep wog.
>>14722601
> I guess you have to have a superiority complex online
>>14722580
>>14722558
>>14722537
>>14722512
>>14722500
sounds like you're the incognito tumblrina here.
and you just revealed your hand.
czechm8
>>14722609
Your grease-covered face was revealed when you sperged out over a reply directed towards someone else. I already know you're one of the know-it-all fucks that absolutely has to have the last word, so I'll let you have your reply, and I'll be proved right once again.
>>14722344
Good thread OP.
>>14722642
Thanks. I must admit that it did take an unexpected turn, but it's amusing nonetheless.
>>14722344
>Learning how to drive after 20
Who so late? Just out of curiosity
>>14722380
>downshifting
Just push the clutch in and break when you need to stop. Better to wear out your brake pads than wear out your transmission.
>>14722344
i bet you are really cute
>>14722424
Hey, I only learned how to drive at 22.
And I still call everyone else a pleb.
>>14722670
Because I used to be a shut in until recently, and shut ins have no interest in stuff like driving.
>>14722719
I am!
>>14722734
post butt
>>14722628
>proved
kys
>>14722491
How slow are you actually being while pulling away at a light?
>>14722380
Similar thing happened to me. I thought cars rev matched themselves, so when I switch from 4th to 3rd, the car jeered me forward.
my mom drove a jeep at the age of 12 through the sahara desert. im 24 and haven't driven anyhting other than a camry, neon, and echo. feels awful.
This looks like a good thread to ask this in. I've been driving stick for almost a year now, I think I'm alright, drive in traffic well enough, no stalls, etc. But why is it that whenever I upshift or even put the car in neutral at speed (for braking), there's always a lurch? As in the car shifts forward on every upshift.
Am I letting off the gas too quickly, or pushing in the clutch too fast, or is it just because I'm driving a 26-year old shitbox?
>>14722880
Sounds like you're letting off the clutch too fast.
>upshift or even put the car in neutral at speed (for braking)
Don't do that. Leave it in gear so you can engine brake.
>>14722344
>Learning to drive AFTER 20
HAHAHAHA DUMB WEEABOO HAHAHAHA
What's wrong no father figure to teach you? Lmao!
why do manual drivers on /o/ think they're top shit?
>>14722411
>don't wanna stall
ITS NOT THAT HARD TO PUSH THE CLUTCH PEDAL WITH THE BRAKE YOU MOUTHBREATHER!
>>14722561
>illiterate, but not really.
>>14722880
>pitches forward on upshift, as in the nose drops / you lean forward slightly / decel / forward weight
Not enough gas/revs for the speed you're going, you're upshifting and then engine braking for a moment. If this happens while dropping into neutral you might be letting off the gas slightly too soon and engine braking for a moment.
why cant you just break to a halt and hold the break in 1st? i havent driven manuel since i was 10 but now that im 25 have taken an interest in cars again i want to know why this cant be the case, assuming you guys stop and engage the clutch
>>14723153
You can clutch to keep it in gear while stopped if you want but that's not OP's problem. The problem is learning the engagement point and properly trading clutch for gas to accelerate from a stop; OP apparently can't figure it out so he takes a long time to launch and rides the clutch forever instead of doing it properly.
Do any of you guy actually believe that the OP is NOT some random guy who's angry at what he perceives as 'smug manual drivers' and has nothing better to do than starting threads to make them look bad? It's like the 'Apple users' on /g/ who conveniently post stupid shit while acting smug to add fresh fuel to the fire.
Stop falling for dumbass strawmen, guys - seriously.
>>14722553
guess what? pay more attention and pull away the second it turns green, because you're just getting in people way like a retard if you can't
fucking retard
>>14722344
this is exactly why I hate manual cars ... I was 28 and driving school used shitty chevy sparks because they are cheap and disposable ... trying to avoid suv moms and stalling at every stop because I had to hurry, and forget about hill start ... first thing I did after getting my licence was buying an automatic
>>14722344
This is why you should be watching the lights for the other direction. Wait until they turn orange, push the clutch in, shift to first. That way you're all good to go when your light goes green about 2 seconds later.
>>14722491
>because manual drivers must remember the time they learned how to drive and therefore they must be patient around student drivers.
>be like OP
>learning to drive in my 20s
>bought a manual car
>taking lessons because no friends to show me
>at the front of the line at a red light
>goes green
>having trouble getting moving
>car behind me honks
>driving instructor turns around and flips off the driver
>"these losers all drive automatics, don't worry about them."
>feel better
>he takes me to a ridiculously steep incline with a stop sign at the top
>forces me to get the car into traffic without using the gas to learn clutch control
>after a few minutes of hell i can drive manual now
dont give up OP
>>14722880
>>14722986
this guy is right: you're letting off the clutch too fast ... upshiftting it's allways the same: letting off the clutch softly and giving gas slowly at the same time
>>14723122
my brake pedal doesn't articulate like that, I have to use my foot.
>>14723304
I have never driven an automatic in my life (I'm 33) and I can accelerate at maximum power from any stop w/o rolling back - even on the steepest hill - and I don't use the hand brake or some special technique. So can my mom and she has no interest in cars beyond getting to places. Face it, you just live in a culture where manual transmissions never got to be the norm and now everyone believes they're inconvenient or only for enthusiasts. Also, your driving ed is fucking useless (assuming you're an American), which is more than likely the actual problem with your ineptitude, because it's really not that hard.
>>14723347
>>14722880
If you hit the gas to up the RPMs so they match or are close it won't happen.
>>14722447
the age you learn is completely arbitrary. there's no difference in a 15 year old or a 50 year old learning how to use a clutch. you just need time in the seat.
assfaggot.
>>14723369
I'm not american, here on sudacaland 90% of cars are manual because they are cheaper and autos are top-tier luxury items, so manual it's the norm. Also in my city public transport it's quite decent because small city, so I own a car only because luxury and freedom of movement, actually I didn't have the need or interest on learning to drive until two years ago when I got the oportunity to got a car on cash.
As everybody here drives manuals, everybody drive like assholes, and being a novice driver it's exhausting and frustrating, if I choosed to drive it's because I want a comfortable trouble-free ride, not to be sorrounded by Schumacher-wanna-be assholes, and manual driving seriously severes reaction time ... you know, cars are expensive items, so the last thing I want it's to crash or being crashed while figuring out revs, clutch, gear and stuff ... a friend of mine had an old automatic mitsubishi galant, and first time i drove it I just fell in love with auto trans, so after getting my license I got an old Toyota Cressida and had fun with trouble-free driving (and gravel road auto-trans drifting) until car just broke because age. Now I'm driving a manual Suzuki Alto while fixing the Cressida, and while it's quite preppy and fun car, it's not as fun as the other because manual box.
>>14723479
>manual driving seriously severes reaction time
You can drive whatever you prefer but don't try to justify your choice with bullshit arguments.
>>14722344
You'll eventually learn how to feel the bite point of your clutch and you won't even think about it anymore. Just keep driving and you'll get it.
I got my first manual less than a month ago and I'm already going from stop to start in less than 2 seconds or so.
If someone gives me shit I just stall my car on purpose, wait till lights are latter end of amber then go leaving them on a red
>>14723130
Yes, indeed. It was clear the boy was literate, he was just being purposefully obtuse.
I believe the meme term is "I'm just pretending to be retarded"
>>14722344
Get out of your car and act like your going to pick a fight. It's what I do when I get honked at, 9/10 it's an angry soccer mom who backs the fuck off real quick.
>>14722670
> Just push the clutch in and break when you need to stop. Better to wear out your brake pads than wear out your transmission.
downshifting is for things other than stopping you know
Try this OP, find an empty road that has a good incline, rev your car to around 3000( what I have to do when starting on an incline) and just engage the clutch, and then disengage over and over again, but keep the RPM constant with the gas pedal. This got me way better at driving a manual when I first started
>>14722344
Tip on messing with automatic drivers
at a red light go to nuetral. rev engine midway then when green, shift to first when flooring it and shift to second when necessary. creating a mad skidZzz do this for the next 2 to 3 lights
>>14722411
>a delightful student driver
>americans will never know the feel of the perfect heel toe downshift
>>14723337
So the manual community is just a hugbox that insults automatic drivers to make themselves feel better about their shortcomings?
Sounds shit, remind me to make sure my next car is an automatic, I can't believe I was associated to pieces of shit such as yourself.
I never had anyone to teach me and I was a dumbass teenager with an automatic shitbox that I've been driving for the last 7 years and I don't know what to do at all.
How do learn manual?
>>14728920
You really just need to get in a car and learn by doing. It's not hard per say, it's just going to feel really unnatural at first because you have to think about each movement.
It'll become second nature fairly quickly and you'll get noticably better the more you drive. You never really stop improving desu
>>14728920
Unless you care a lot about fuel economy, there's no point learning manual.
>>14722344
>tfw eurofag
>learn to drive a MT in mums shitty hatchback at age 13
>take driving lessons on a diesel RAV4
>same shitty hatchback was my first car
>the only auto car i've ever driven was an R35
>have absolutely no desire to ever drive a manual, diesel or an SUV
Currently own a '91 mazda meme machine
>>14729316
No desire to drive an auto*
Shit
>20
>STILL cant drive manual
i think cvt would be better suited for you lmao
>getting into 3rd is like dragging the gearstick through sand
>bleed clutch hydraulics
>now all shifts are smooth as butter
>realise what i've been doing to my synchros
>>14722344
I actually have a friend who thought that manual cars have a parking gear and a driving gear and also thought that the steering reset while he held it to turn hard, he shat himself in fear when I told him to sit in the front seat of my car and this is why his parents and me don't let him drive
>>14722344
Are you sure that you're older than 20
>>14722344
Remind me again what the advantage of manual is
>>14729695
doing mad downshifts while driving past a preschool
the best part is making the kids deaf
>>14729695
You decide what gear's best at any given time, not some device that is build to shift under certain conditions, not knowing the situation and not being able to adjust to it. Also, I can't stress enough how driving manual is NOT only good for driving aggressively and it is NOT a hinderance or inconvenience in slow traffic. People who say that are just not used to it.
>>14722344
Learn to drive your outdated crap properly, faggot.
>>14722491
Fucking entitled millenials
The proper way to start moving at the stoplight with an manual car is
>Press in clutch
>Put in 1st gear
>Press down the accelerator
>COMPLETELY DOWN
>Let the revs get up to around 4-5K
>Move your foot away from the clutch pedal
>>Don't lift it, but rather move your foot to the side and let the clutch jump up by itself
>Keep the accelerator pressed down all the time
>If need be, quickly switch to 2nd gear while keeping the accelerator pressed at all times
If the tires aren't squealing all the time, you are doing something wrong
>>14723042
Because only a small amount of people actually go out of their way to drive outdated transmissions and online is where those losers can get together and feel cool.
>>14729811
>>only a small amount
No.
>>outdated
Nooo.
>>feel cool
Why would I feel cool about something everybody does - including my 70 year old grandma, my sisters who don't give a crap about cars, my parents, my neighbors and basically anyone I know. Oh, wait, I have this one cousin who drives an automatic Ford S-Max, but that's a huge exception and I guess she just didn't care (so it wasn't a conscious decision). Also, fuck no.
The giant "L" on the back of my car is like a sign saying "please cut me off from the right at every intersection even though I'm going over the speed limit".
>>14722360
We all had to start somewhere. Nobody could ever drive a stick perfectly their first time. It takes practice.
>>14722853
> I thought cars rev matched themselves
The 370Z actually does this
>>14730563
I own one of these and even if I wanted to use it (I don't) it never gets it right, it's always a few hundred revs short jerking the car and tends to slams the gas thinking you're trying to downshift when you put the stick in neutral.
>>14729880
>make mistake while shifting and grenade transmission
>car rolls back no matter what
>make mistake with clutch and stall
>three pedals
>need to use every limb on your body to do anything
I'm glad you and your inbred family enjoy all of the unnecessary work, though.
Also
>Nooo.
Kill yourself.
>>14722670
>Who so late? Just out of curiosity
For me it was because I lived in a city with a solid transit system and moved to another city in a place in walking distance to school, work, and groceries. Cars are expensive with gas, insurance, and no job so if you don't need one then there's no point in putting in the cash. I got my license at 16 but didn't actually learn how to drive until 22, and even then it was an autotragic.
>>14722411
> some are on a hill.
you fucking pleb
I could do perfect hill pulloff after 5 lessons
>>14730615
>le manual is like piloting a space shuttle meme
>>14722346
This is what I do. I daily a fucking prius and hypermile that shit. If someone honks, I slow down. If they try to pass illegally I floor it and the instant electric torque dominates them.
>>14730615
Jesus Christ, DUDE, do you also criticize people for using the stairs instead of the elevator? Also, your straw man examples are pretty much fiction. People who know what they're doing don't make those mistakes - at least not in a way or amount that matters. I live in a country where almost everyone drives stick and those problems don't exist in the real world.
And btw., I'm aware that there's always a 50% (or higher) chance that you don't actually believe what you're typing, but if that's the case then I'm just sad for you - lying on an anonymous image board to make other people mad gotta be one of the most pathetic things one could do, yet it wasn't below you. I wouldn't even be mad that I 'fell' for it - actually, all it does is reminding me of my better life.
Because manuals have slower reaction time compared to automatics
For city driving automatics are perfect
>>14733453
Repeating a false statement doesn't make it true. We're not talking learners here - experienced manual drivers will stop as fast as automatics and accelerate even faster. And I'm talking normal people here, not car enthusiasts. If you've stalled a car in traffic or from emergency braking after even 6 moths of practice, you just suck at driving - it's as plain as that. Manual transmission don't inherently slow your reaction time, that's a provable fact. Driving stick is about as hard as riding a bicycle w/o training wheels and not something to brag about.
>>14722344
Don't worry OP, today was my third day dailying a manual miata, and I only stalled once. You'll get better! If old women in europe can heeel-toe through the alps, so can you. Don't worry bro
I give extra space & time to people who are obviously learning how to drive manual. If you aren't a learner, then don't let the green light go to waste. They're too short as is.
>>14731197
What model Prius do you drive? I've never driven one with a less than 20 second 0-60 so there's no way you're dominating anybody with one of those, and electric motors only have a torque advantage from a dead stop
>>14729023
Does it help if I play a lot of video games and never had trouble driving in the first place?
>>14729049
There's a specific car I want and it only came in manual, and I don't want to convert the transmission.
>>14722344
>auto plebs
No, just people who can drive.
If you're wearing L plates though, people should be a little more patient.
