Post your 400+ wheel torque dyno sheets.
>>14703429
>More torque than hp
My nigga
>>14703448
This is why my Scion tC is faster than pickups.
nice truck engine
my 170whp car could smoke the fuck out of it
My bycicle is faster than your fridge LOL
>>14703515
>my 170hp car can smoke that 400hp car because I have less torque
>>14703539
Swear to god this boi is blazed.
>>14703543
Have you taken power/weight into consideration?
>>14703515
>has more than 120 tq
Must be truck
>>14703546
>>14703429 3100lbs
What's a tc weigh these days?
>>14703546
no because weight and vehicle type were not given dipshit
>>14703481
for your TC to be faster than this 400whp vehicle, it would have to weigh like 8,000lbs
>>14703546
I think it's fair to assume it doesn't weigh 2.5 times your shitbox anon.
>>14703429
Right on the dot.
>>14703604
>torque
>>14703611
Lol who cares about torque
400hp is 400hp
>>14703611
Just let me fit in senpai :(
>>14703618
Fine, what car?
>>14703617
>what is average power
I can't find the dyno sheet, but 250HP 420 ft lb
>>14703560
About 2000 pounds less than your average pickup
>>14703579
Assuming averages
>>14703596
Gear ratios and shit m9
>>14703659
Op car is 3150lb+-
How fucked is your tc?
>>14703647
What is learning to use gears :^)
>>14703600
That's not how power/weight works
If a car weighs double another it doesn't make it 2x slower.
Fact 1, modern superbikes have the hp of a 08 civic
Fact 2, these bikes are beating lambos down the 1/4
>>14703667
Op has a truck dood
>>14703429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOPRuWa-mvU
>hey cooter my chevy will take ur furd anyday
>nuh-uh bodean this here furd is bilt furd tuff
>i know cooter lets tie r hitches togethur and see who can pull the other the farvest
>>14703611
>300+wtq from 2500rpm to redline
>hurr durr no torque
Retard.
>>14703674
Dood no
>>14703672
that's what i'm saying...
>>14703672
>modern Superbike
180hp, 450lbs, 2.5lb/hp
>muh lambo
600hp, 3,500lbs, 5.8lb/hp
>>14703692
Read the original prerequisite for posting dyno sheet in question.
>Post your 400+ wheel torque dyno sheets
>>14703694
Oh shit, why did i think he had a truck. I think i have cancer
>>14703617
You do understand how gearing works right?
>>14703604
FYI, A.I.R. is kinda a sketchy shop. Go to RMCR next time.
>>14703767
Lstree + 55 mph in first = godmode
>>14703786
Vortech?
>>14703543
but it runs low 13s
what does op run
![borgwarner-efr-7670-turbo-content-11[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bkLsOcj.jpg "borgwarner-efr-7670-turbo-content-11[1].jpg")
not mine but
>>14703798
Judging by
>>14703429
>>14703560
>>14703694
>>14703789
I'd say low 12s.
>>14703803
yeah well my car makes more hp/l
so fuck him
>>14703810
lel
>>14703448
>comparing two quantities that have dimensionally different units
That's saying something has mass than speed. Fucking amerifat education.
>>14703803
High 11s to 12 flats. World record is 11.2 on streets but I'm no pro driver.
No chance a 170 whp tc runs low 13s, hell I'd be suprised if a 270 whp tc could manage it.
>>14703794
*Vortec
>>14703826
actually it's more like saying something has more mass than mph.
amerifats indeed
>>14703810
What about tq/l ?
>>14703836
>have vortec in S10
>12mpg
What does it cost to go to the dyno and fuck around? Also if any of you are running custom maps on your ecu how much did that run? Need info for future build
>>14703836
Rofl thanks, I talked to a guy with that same setup while I was getting my c6 dynoed. He supercharged it off the showroom, made 800 wheel with just a upgraded fuel pump and he ran it like that till it blew at 50k miles. Now it's bored over and such, was just impressed a stock ls3 could take that much for so long.
>>14703832
>High 11s to 12 flats
You're a better driver than I was giving you credit for then. Hell Frosty was actually running slower 0-60 than a stock Z51 considering his optimistic af timer.
>>14703854
Dyno tune is around $400
>>14703839
85 hp/l
70 lbft/l
using wheel numbers ofc
>>14703832
the 170whp isnt in a TC
its in a completely gutted Honda on slicks
>>14703854
This will vary by region and shops.
>>14703859
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341565
>>14703854
Just go to a dyno day wherever you can find one. Pulls are usually about $25 each around here, and you'll want to more than one. You probably wont be allowed to fuck around on a shop's dyno unless you know a guy. Most wont let you do any tuning yourself on their dyno time. Which is fine since road tuning is perfectly adequate to tune a car properly.
>>14703862
Frosty had a ls2, while mine is a bolt on ls3 so I have him by a little over 100 hp and tq. C6z numbers basically.
>>14703875
MIAMI?
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>>14703875
$500 shitbox
Arnt we all impressed
>>14703832
170 WHP? The tC makes 180 BHP stock. At the front wheels I'd guess it's closer to 145 WHP.
>>14703981
better performance for the $ than a Corvette kek
its like a $2000 build counting the purchase of the car
lord help all the V8fags if I decide to go beyond simple bolt ons
>>14704063
there's always someone faster, boy
>>14704063
>well yeah, my car is way slower and is a stripped out piece of shit
>I could make it faster
>b-b-but I paid less
Literal poorfag mentality.
>>14704063
>lord help all the V8fags if I decide to go beyond simple bench racing and buy a good car
>>14704238
so I throw in a couple more grand and run 10s or 9s
still cheaper than an old junky C4 that is already slower
keep damage controlling faggot
>>14704259
you're not running 9s with a "couple more grand" buddy.
>>14704259
a fast stripped out shitpile is still a stripped out shitpile.
I'd take a 12 second corvette over a stripped out 10 second civic any day.
>torque
>>14704259
>couple more grand and run 10s or 9s
nope.bmp
>>14704259
I feel like you don't know what a c4 is.
If you had 2-3k to boost your shitbox, you'd sell it and buy a real car.
Difference is I can take my wife to dinner friday and run 11s on saturday.
Your shitbox is a embarrassment to anyone involved.
>>14704259
>so I throw in a couple more grand and run 10s or 9s
Hondafags are literally this retarded.
A sleeved block, new pistons, rods, crank, headwork, a cryo treated trans, new axles, control arms, new fuel system let alone the cage that's required for running 9s and 10s is "only a couple more grand". Not to mention suspension, slicks and skinnies, brakes or anything else.
>still cheaper than an old junky C4 that is already slower
This has wat to do with anything we're talking about here? This is deflection at it's finest.
>keep damage controlling faggot
You came here to talk shit on a car that's much faster, and you're the one making up shit about how your car MIGHT be faster than a C4. Perhaps you should learn the meaning of the buzzwords you're throwing around.
>>14704266
>>14704278
what is ebay
even a low boost setup would be an easy 10 second car
>>14704292
>>14704303
a C4 is a cheap shitbox of a Corvette
its would still be cheaper than the cheapest Corvette
it already kills C4s
yall faggots are just mad a 27 year old Honda with a junkyard SUV engine is fast so you have to hate
and its a racecar who cares if its "nice"
>>14704303
>Hondafags are literally this retarded.
just a few simple mods
>>14704292
>Your shitbox is a embarrassment to anyone involved.
SAVAGE
>>14704326
>ebay
>suv engine aka b20
confirmed troll. you got me partner.
>>14704326
>what is ebay
>even a low boost setup would be an easy 10 second car
no
>>14704292
>I can take my wife to dinner friday
do you take your wife's son with you aswell cuck?
>>14704335
yeah
a B20 with a b16 head intake and exhaust
>>14704338
it already runs 13s
so yeah I think it would
>>14704357
>so yeah I think it would
That's because you've never built or owned a fast car you benchracing fuckwit
>>14704370
whatever
ebay kit
forged rods
(already did head studs)
and maybe a thicker headgasket
would make more than enough power to get into the 10s
>>14704357
>my stripped out civic runs 13s
>I could make it run 10s or 9 sfor $2,000
go post that on the Honda Civic forums and watch the people with actual 10/9s civics laugh you out of there
>>14704357
http://honda-tech.com/drag-racing-36/post-your-b20-1-4-mile-times-772760/
Show me one 9 or 10 second B20VTEC. It's basically a weaker(thinner walls) LS block. Your theoretical turbo would be worse on your motor.
>>14704342
>Drives shitbox
>Calls alpha in C6 cuckold
Hondafags.jpeg
>>14704390
you're already at 2,000 and haven't addressed traction or safety requirements
>>14704391
they can laugh when my car outruns their shit for pennies
>>14704395
http://www.b20vtec.com/forums/threads/544514-10-Second-Club-2010
>>14704398
it has a LSD trans and slicks
it has a racing seat and a 4 point harness
I dont run at the strip so the safety isnt really needed
>inb4 but you said 13s
its beaten cars that do run 13s
>>14704390
master baiter
>>14704447
13.9999999999999999999999999999
>>14704397
>implying I drive a Honda
dumbass
>alpha
>midlife crisis vette
lol okay, i bet its a base model
>>14704447
You're full of shit. Slicks don't hook on unprepared surfaces and you need more than a set of cheapo slicks to do 10s. You need a dedicated drag suspension setup. You are digging yourself such a deep hole here you stupid hondatard bench racer. Your 13-second ("maybe" since you don't actually have any time slips) pile of garbage will not run 9s let alone 10s for $2,000. Stop now, while you still have a shred of dignity left
>>14704465
>he thinks the car you drive determines whether you're alpha
pitiful
>>14704465
>shitbox
>base model
>honda
>fag
27, dear lord I hope this isn't my mid life.
>>14704474
what did he mean by this post?
>>14704471
maybe I should introduce you to trackbite faggot
its a 13 second car there is no maybe about it sure all the turbo shit is theoretical but beating 13 second cars isnt
>>14704481
It means I run 9-10s on foot
>>14704447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5AYavFk6FQ&layer_token=cabbb5ce29895928
This guys fiberglass front end cost more than your car.
Again, you're not touching tens with "a couple grand" budget.
>>14703481
Almost took the b8
>>14704497
thats usain bolt tier fast
congrats man
OK I'll bite. Numbers are in Euros, can't be bothered to translate. Don't own the car any more-never thought I'd say this but it was far too fast to be used to it's full potential on the road (in the UK anyway).
>butthurt civic faggot ITT insisting that he can make his "13 second" car run deep 10s on a couple grand
Thanks bud I needed a laugh today
>>14704513
good god
>>14704481
>>14703429
>AWD
>>14705813
dem torqs
Ecoboost Mustang STUMPS the V8 for bottom end grunt with a few bolt ons and more boost
>>14706067
Yeah its not too bad for a little 3L
Bigger turbs at some point would help it out though
>>14706106
>little 3L
It's not bad to the wheels through an AWD drivetrain. I'm making more power and torque to my wheels with a 2.5L, it's the enormous drivetrain losses that make your numbers impressive. What size turbochargers?
>>14706172
Yeah there's nothing complicated about this awd system, its a relatively primitive affair with no fancy torque vectoring. Little bit of tyre slip on the dyno was kind of scary!
At the moment they're some TD04-9B's I freshened up a few years ago but there needs to be more flow, so thinking the TD05 system- which is a lot of work as I'd have to go through and redo all the pressure side and that's a lot of plumbing.
Have also considered a big single setup as well, which cuts down on the plumbing, but makes the exhaust side a bit of a shit to setup.
I'm not really in any hurry to do either, its just a street car
>>14706087
>sacrificing 60hp and all of your top end for 60lb-ft of peak torque
just buy a diesel if that's what you want dummy
>>14706231
Well, that is a relatively pigfat 3,700lb car, if my google skills didn't fail me, but ~9.5lb:hp isn't bad for a street car at all, it's plenty. My DD is at roughly 8.4lb:hp, but I can't put the power down. AWD probably means you can launch really hard. How's the handling with such a heavy AWD car?
lmaoing at everyone in this thread
my EK with its built B16a will outdo anyone's car here, truck engine or not
>>14706289
Sure thing, boss. How 'bout you post up some time slips and pics for us of that impressive machine. I want to see it.
>>14706284
This is the GTO MR which is a bit lighter than her more well appointed cousins, on the scales with all the junk, spare tyre and tools out of it, half a tank of juice it was 1470kg, which I think that's around 3250 burger units off the top of my head.
Which is a 'big-ish' car, but most modern commuter cars are around that or much heavier now anyway. Heck I think most of the big-6cylinder Fords and Holdens here are around the 18-1900kg mark!
Its not the most nimble of cars, takes some wrestling through a really tight corner but you can do it mostly because of the insane amounts of traction.
Literally does it rain, hail or shine. Suspension isn't to bad across rough surfaces either, that weight it does have seems to smooth out the ride some, unlike a lot of the lighter Nissan's Ive usually owned in the past which tended to bounce around a bit on our more shitty roads
>>14706361
Everything I found on the internet said 1680kg for that car. That's a huge error.
>>14706369
Yeah... the internet is a bit like that :)
I use a lighter Z15 chassis, not the slightly heavier Z16 and there's literally nothing really in the car. Its still got climate control and 'some' noise dampening, but all the fancy exhaust-settings, electronic suspension, active aero and standard gears been binned.
It doesn't even have cruise control, which is enough to make most millennial car buyers run screaming elsewhere.
That said, its an old car with old design now. Most of the technology is late-80's at best.
>>14703859
LS3's are probably one of the best engines to abuse in the GM's history
Plenty of users driving high lift cam/head setups with tons of boost and have decently high mileage. The LS3 will take a lot of abuse, a 1LE owner a year or so ago ran his car/head setup as a purely track car only. I think he got around 40-50,000 miles on the engine before dropping a cammed 402 in.
check all that power out guise
>>14703767
Yes, torque can be multiplied through gearing.
>all these retards itt thinking it's impossible to run 9s for a few grand
http://www.dragzine.com/features/car-features/matt-happels-newest-9-second-junkyard-fairmont-sleeper/
>>14706590
>towncar_dyno.jpg
Old tune cleaned up now should be making 30whp more
Car went 11.70s trapped 122mph
C5 hardtop FRC RT615ks in 315 width
>>14704326
making civic owners look bad
b20 swap is not faster than a new corvette
also gutting your car doesn't even save that much weight. my EF rear seats/rear interior weighed maybe 40 lbs total. i put them all back in
>>14704326
>>14704259
>>14704063
>>14703875
Go ahead and take a photo and post it here of your "gutted interior". I bet your car doesn't even fucking exist. Fucking bus pass niggas I swear.
>m-m-m-muh $4,000 gutted civic running 10s
>mfw I actually have a gutted and swapped civic that I use for autocross (bought it as a shell on CL for $800) and know first hand through the civic "community" that getting below 12s is where it starts to get really expensive really fast because you struggle for traction and break shit
>>14703707
> lambo 3.5klbs
more like 4k
>>14706640
Now point me towards a Civic running 9s for a couple grand, retard.
>all this time later and people are still mad at a ghetto Honda
kek
>>14703758
"No! I must kill the cancer," he shouted!
The r/o/dio said "No, anon. You are the cancer."
And then, John was a shitpost.
3 years ago in a 2200lb miata
Mine...
>>14704326
>>14704357
>>14704390
Key words in these posts; would, could, should. Story of the poster's life; could've, should've, didn't, hasn't, won't.
Whole other world of racing knowledge you think you know that you've never experienced. I'm not sure just how much you fit the Honda owner stereotype.
I think another hundred meter stretch of shitty asphalt between lights is calling your name, to dominate in your King of the Street B20. Either that or it's the brush cutter down the street stalling on a clump of grass, sounds like a Honda call to summons.
>>14707340
>but it already runs 13s
whoa, better watch out, we've got a real speedster
>>14703826
>>14703838
no it's like saying one number is bigger than another number you damn /o/tists
>>14706773
Lemme see your so cal frc!
>>14706773
Very nice for lsjuan, what is done to your c5?
>>14707316
what engine?
pics?
>>14703429
now i would like to see fuel consumption and boost pressure
>>14711797
Race me from a roll bro!
