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why does this company drives /o/ so insanely butthurt?
I can sense primal savage hate on this board
>>14703092
FCA is love, FCA is life.
>>14703092
>Magnet Marell
what? I've never saw one of those around
cheap shitalian shitboxes I guess
and anyway FCA is a joke, everything italians touch it turns into shit
it's a shame that an American brand has been ruined by those monkeys
Viper is the only reason they hold my interest.
in 2017 that will no longer be however and so goes just another large auto-group. I wonder what they'll do with the SRT team when they are no longer working on the Viper.
>>14703121
Here's your reply.
>>14703121
>>14703127
why is it so easy to recognize american posters?
>>14703099
Seconded
Literally the best cars on the market in engine and design
>>14703121
>>14703127
>Americans
Top ebin
>>14703148
>Literally the best cars on the market in engine and design
8.5/10 bait
>>14703136
Because we are the only ones to not lick italian asses
>>14703092
Italy is seen as a "soft" country, probably due to the language.
A lot of people here want to be hard.
Italians are seen as flamboyant, a lot of people here are uptight nerds who hate fun and happiness.
Also their track record of reliability makes them easy to make fun of, and people here don't value soul and passion and prefer something that just gets them to A to B without too much drama.
That said the few FCA fanboys on here come across highly delusional and a bit thick.
>>14703230
>Italians are seen as flamboyant
>>14703239
Does flamboyant mean queer now? fucking kids
>>14703092
>I can sense primal savage hate on this board
mice and squirrels are similar.. but, still, you probably love squirrels and hate mice
why? it's instinct
Italians and humans are similar.. but we hate italians
it's instinct, my friend.. it's instinct..
>>14703247
Does queer means fruit now? fucking kids
Fix it again Tony
>>14703136
Because they're the only ones that like there amerifat cars
>>14703299
american cars have the best quality/price ratio
you have to be an edgy contrarianist europoor to disagree
>>14703092
Problem with FCA is that each and every single car brand that's part of it is one you kinda want to root for, but then they fail you in the end, disappointing you time and time again.
Fiat
>underpowered the 124 Abarth
>keeps to FWD shitboxes
>bloated the 500, exploited it's name
Ferrari:
>became asshole
>removed all driver involvement
>went turbo and hybrid
>sold out with a 4WD family car and a cheap-ish V6 roadster
Maserati:
>SUV's
>brand dilution
>no supercars anymore
Alfa
>finally making a RWD car
>keeps postponing it
>makes SUV's, city cars
>overpriced the 4C
>shitty DCT's and gimped engines
Lancia
>dead
Chrysler
>minivans
>killed of their compacts
Ram
>bloated styling
>pure distilled MURRIKAH without advancing their engine lineup
Jeep
>The fucking Renegade
>no small pickups
Last, but not least, Dodge
>no SRT-4 Dart
>About to kill the Viper
>made the Hellcats pigfat
>refuses to build aluminium blocks
>no V6 roadster
Also, most infuriatingly, they've got a better pushrod V8 than the LS - but they don't even try to get the engine swap popularity. No alloy blocks, no easy EFI systems, no support, nothing, at least not a fraction of the LS, despite the 3rd gen Hemi being completely superior in terms of airflow and internals.
>>14703127
Viper might just get the top cut off for 2017. It'll be back anyways.
>>14703311
>The fucking Renegade
the renegade it's selling like there is no tomorrow
>>14703296
Fucking Fords.
>>14703311
>if it doesn't have 12 pages in the jegs catalog and i can't dream about fitting it in my shitbox it sucks
>>14703315
It is, but it's the non-Jeepiest Jeep ever. Pic related would be tolerable, but they're just reworked Fiats.
An all-electric Wrangler would also be neat as a trailcrawler, but FCA wouldn't even touch that.
>>14703319
If they have a superior product, and don't do jack shit with it, and actively make electronics packages that are impossible to get into, it sucks.
>>14703324
>ants etc.
>>14703189
>reliable engines
>beautiful design
Don't think it's bait, anon.
>>14703311
>alfa makes SUVs
???????
>>14703327
Comrade Marchionne's Five Year Plan dictates several SUV's (up to three) and crossovers. First will be the 2017 Stelvio.
>>14703335
Who cares. It'll still be a performance oriented brand.
/o/ IS ALWAYS BUTTHURT
>>14703335
le mad: the post.
>>14703092
I'm probably the only American here who actually has an FCA car (read: econobox) and likes it.
>The 1.4 Multiair is not an engine, it is a musical instrument.
>torque vectoring owns the road -- turns on a dime, Macross Zero style
>a turbo the size of your fist pushing 21 lbs of boost into a space less than the size of a soda bottle
>the dose m8 the dose
>literally the best-looking, best-sounding, most fun small car ever made in America
>a fitting successor to a legendary name
>Marccione is going to kill it to make SUVs
fuck everything
>>14703311
I don't get why Chrysler just doesn't become Fiat in north america? They could have probably saved a shit ton of cash by doing so.
>>14703401
Because Fiat has a worse brand iamge than Chrysler.
When Fiat and Chrysler merged, it was a marriage of the worst quality European automaker and the worst quality American automaker. Both companies had long ago decided to to sell their cars based on price, and not quality. Even Ferrari decided to sell their cars on prestige and exclusivity, and not quality.
Hate all you want, but the new Tipo doesn't look that bad despite of looking angry. It might be a pretty successful car if the price is low enough.
>usa version of 124 abarth down 10 horsepower
>for no fucking reason
>when they did the opposite years earlier on the same engine with the 500 abarth
>the abarth is now mostly a cosmetic package
they have flashes of brilliance and flashes of incredible, INCREDIBLE ineptitude
![159ti_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tVoJnA5.jpg "159ti_1[1].jpg")
>all these plebs in this thread
>>14703324
weirdly, the renegage is more jeepish than most of the lineup.
its kinda heavy for its size since its built up pretty tough, it rock crawls way, way better than it has any right to, the engine is small but geared almost entirely for torque....
>>14703394
did you get the HPSI tune yet bruh?
http://www.hpsimotorsports.com/#!eurodrive-obdii-flash-tune-phase-1-da/c2b0
>210hp/230tq
>>14703405
Chrysler loves to pack technology into their cars. They make excellent engines (with some exceptions), but they're coupled to overbearing computer monitoring and control, especially their automatic transmissions.
Frankly, I thought it was funny that a company that had so famously partnered up with the worst-quality Japanese automaker and managed to shit out several respectable cars, now partners up with an Italian brand world-famous for their unreliability during the '70s and '80s.
What has changed is that it's easier to build technologically-advanced cars. Computer systems have become more rugged, manufacturing processes are more strict, and a partnership with another international company is forcing them to adopt international standards for repair and diagnostics. As a result, their cars are more reliable and easier to fix.
That doesn't stop Chrysler's infamous """"""""build quality"""""""" from showing through, if you get one, break out a ratchet and check every bolt.
>>14703461
Shit, that looks tempting. Not sure if I should upgrade injectors first.
>>14703437
it's probably so that it can run on low-octane gas.
The Dart wants 91 or better, but will cut boost and run fine (just slower) if you put in 87. Blame the American consumer for not really knowing what octane does and why some engines need more.
on the upside, if the Dart can be flashed to 210 HP on stock internals, the Fiata sure as hell can too.
>>14703537
that tune runs on stock everything i believe, not a single upgrade needed aside from gapping the spark plugs to a specific value.
they also "recommend" a proper intake, which is probably nice to have anyway
also the fiat version of the engine is somewhat different, for instance the abarth 500 version of that same tune only does like 196/205, although there is a "phase 2" with some bolt ons in the works that'll get it to 230/220
with any luck, the 124 version of the engine will be more like the Dart and less like the 500 abarth for higher power potential
>>14703394
>they call that a small car in america
>>14703092
nobody on here hates them, most of us are smart enough to stay away from unreliable shitboxes.
>>14703410
volkswagen + kia + skoda = tipo
>>14703584
but muh passion
>>14703566
The American 500 Abarth actually has the same 160 HP Multiair Turbo as the Dart.
The European version, which only makes 133 HP, is simply the same engine but without electrohydraulic valve lifters.
t. Wikipedia
>>14703589
>passion
roflmao
these new cars are souless crap that look almost identical to eachother. station wagons are fucked nowadays like everything else. i bet fiat even put an old-ass engine in that tipo. i hope they bankrupt
>>14703121
holy shit...
>>14703589
Fuck passion. If that is a comfortable estate with big enough trunk and 120hp multijet diesel, that is sold with a price of a Skoda Rapid, it is going to succeed. It could be the next step towards comfort from Dacia Logan MCV for people too cheap to invest in an Astra or Focus.
>>14703640
hmm, might be the intake and exhaust geometry or something then, but the dart definitely has more tuning potential than the 500 abarth
>>14703311
>Lancia
>>dead
Fuck, I remember around 20 years ago when I was 10 and my dad brought me for a spin in a friend of his rally prepped delta.
Scared as fuck but so much fun...
>>14703121
fucking shit, is this the level of /o/?
do you even know what is pic related?
>>14703121
>>Magnet Marell
get out of /o/
>>14703189
Not even baiting
>>14703092
They crack in half before getting to the dealer to fix wiring, transmission, and rear diffs.
>>14703804
Epic mem
>>14703840
>a jaguar pops up in an FCA thread
>>14703871
Whoops, thought I made new thread. Such is life as a mobilefag. Here you go my friend, have a meme.
>>14703394
There's a lot of Challenger and Charger owners on /o/. I've had my R/T since 2012 and I fucking love it. Best car I've ever owned.
![126p_jump_by_mjagiellicz[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xYHrEh4.jpg "126p_jump_by_mjagiellicz[1].jpg")
Fiat is very famous in Poland for rally
I wish I had Fiat
it is good
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