will this be the next godmachine?
it's all the benefits of an ND but
>a good bit faster, 200hp from the factory instead of 140, with the 1.4 known to be capable of 225hp with ONLY a chiptune
>looks more interesting, whether or not it's outright better seems to be mixed
>exhaust note much like the fiat 500 abarth, which is the best exhaust note under 50 grand easily
>the only true internal fiat part is the engine and it's been very reliable in other platforms, everything else is mazda meaning mostly reliable
>upgraded springs, shocks, brakes, and some roll bars to boot.
what's the downside? why isn't there more hype about this already?
>what's the downside
weighs more
starts at 35k
slower than the ND
>>14682514
>what's the downside?
The price.
>>14682560
>>14682543
that's the euro price converted to usd which usually doesn't hold up
in ameribucks it's probably more like 30k
>>14682543
>weighs more
Yeah, almost nothing. Big whoop.
>starts at 35k
So? It's still a fucking Abarth.
>slower than the ND
kek, except it isn't
>>14682514
a reliable fiat ?
I refuse to believe
>>14683533
that's mostly because it's a mazda with a fiat engine and a fiat body kit, so it's like 80% mazda
>>14683542
but aside from the door handles and window winders one of the few unreliable parts of a fiat is the engine
>>14682514
Its rumored to start between 35-40 euros
2much$$
>>14683575
except in this case it isn't, it's the 1.4 turbo which is in the dodge dart and the 500 abarth and it's been pretty reliable
>>14683583
...........did you literally just say the engine from a new dodge dart is reliable?
>tfw when now you've seen everything
If it was 25k then it would be a godmachine but it's way overpriced for what it is.
>>14682514
didn't LPG say he was gonna go to a dealership and get more information/put in a reserve on one? anyone know what came out of that?
>>14685414
>didn't LPG say he was gonna go to a dealership and get more information/put in a reserve on one? anyone know what came out of that?
yep
i'll be getting one too, been looking for a good car to replace my miata for awhile now.
>>14682514
>looks more interesting, whether or not it's outright better seems to be mixed
When 124 was revealed I thought it looked somewhat contrived and awkward, especially compared to the decent looking ND. Cue couple of months of comparing the two and Miata seems just a bit more meh every time I see it whereas the 124 looks better by the day, it's growing on me hard. Guess the Italians still know their shit when it comes to design.
>>14682514
>exhaust note much like the fiat 500 abarth
this is false
There was a video out with a 124 making abarth exhaust sounds, but it turned out to be a video with sound ripped from a 500 abarth.
>>14685688
are you talking about this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXuz4QM2QCA
Is it really going to be £35K?
Thats insane
>>14682514
>implying that will ever get sold outside of eurpoe
>>14685972
price and hp for US spec will be revealed at this weeks new york auto show
I really like the headlights. I hated them at first but they grew on me quick.
Plus it can turn into a Datsun
>>14685382
yes, everything on the dodge dart and the abarth 500 breaks except the engine, it's kind of a miracle
>>14685414
he did, the dealership guy confirmed the 200hp rumor, since its still a rumor and not official, and said preorder sheets with official specs and options will be available at dealers at the end of the month.
the NYIAS starts on the 25th and that will likely set in stone the official specs, price, and release date for the usa base 124 and abarth
>>14685688
>>14685688
>There was a video out with a 124 making abarth exhaust sounds, but it turned out to be a video with sound ripped from a 500 abarth.
this would make sense considering it has the same engine and a very similar exhaust system from the guys who made the 500 abarth exhaust. If it sounds any different it will be only slightly so
>>14686111
honestly? if fiat made a fastback coupe version of the abarth 124 i'd preorder it immediately
>>14686111
I can totally see a bodykit being made
>>14686111
shut up and take my money
>>14682514
I will never pay $30k for a miata or anything like it.
>>14686281
Ok.
>>14686281
>haha what a gay fag car now where's my vape and english degree
>>14686431
wut. I like the cars I just think they are retardedly priced. price is important otherwise everyone would just call some exotic the meme machine.
>>14683575
Epic meme! !!!!!!
>>14683533
>>14685382
>>14686468
>turbocharged engine with forged internals
>mechanical limited slip differential
>double wishbone front, multilink rear suspension
>aluminum everywhere to keep weight down
>dual mode active exhaust
>brembo brakes
>abarth shocks, bilstein springs
>alcantara interior bits
It IS priced poorly in the EU, mainly due to their stupid taxes, but it does have A LOT of good things - all of which contribute to a more fulfilling driving experience.
>>14682514
>what's the downside
Depreciation.
Great for the rest of us poorfags who buy it in a few years after the price goes down, not so much for the guy who buys it in the first place.
>>14686468
30k for the stuff it has and the tuning potential is just right on the knife edge of worth it.
although as a bonus, these things will depreciate like a rock because of the badge so i wouldn't be surprised if you could pick one up a year old and 5k miles for like 23k
theres one BIG downside
its not a miata
>>14683520
stop shilling your italian shitboxes you idiot
>>14682514
>what's the downside
Convertible, it's the one thing that makes the FRS/BRZ a better buy than a Miata/S2000/Z4. I don't give a fuck that the frame is built to compensate it's still a wet noodle.
>>14687919
z4 has a coupe version.
The z4 also is heavy as shit compared to a Miata/S2000.
>>14687919
S2000 is pretty rigid m8.
>>14687918
>this mad
>>14687919
spotted the bitter fr-s/brz owner
>>14688043
>implying I own a Toyobaru
I drive an SX4 because reasons.
>tfw lancia's getting the axe and you'll never see a new 124 spider based fulvia
>>14688079
>already there anon
>>14688079
>fulvia wheel drive
>>14682514
once you get past the styling I guess it's really just a question of whether you're happy to lose the power delivery of an NA engine for a little more pace. I'd have to drive both to really know.
