Best I6 that isn't a 1jz or 2jz?
S50
The rb series engines are good, also ferds barra motor is bretty good
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false best i6 is the 2jz case closed
Atlas (vortec)?
Probably can't make anywhere near as much power as the other i6s but i heard they can make decent reliable power.
>>14674713
But that not a NH series Cummins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQUE0hOOMgo
>>14674656
One that isn't a pigfat iron block.
You probably nailed it on the first post. Motorcycle straight sixes are godtier.
>>14674774
>>14674656
S54
better than any japshite
>>14674778
doesn't sound nearly as good as the CBX though, nor look nearly as pretty
>>14674758
Underrated post
>>14674783
this
s54 is great, jap shit is great too but the s54 is just such an excellent all around engine
>>14674790
Less boomertax though, and more power.
Sound can be fixed with a good exhaust system.
>tfw no BMW 1602 with a K1600 engine
The RB20 is the greatest engine of all time
ALL TIME
>>14674807
It sucks you can only get the K1600 in the cuck touring bike. Would be cool to have a standard
![90713084-500x34411[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lirT2By.jpg "90713084-500x34411[1].jpg")
>>14674815
you forgot your pic
>>14674818
I just want to find one that a dude in his fifties crashed, and turn it into a streetfight. The engine itself can be beautiful.
>>14674758
winrar
Gallo 24
>>14674758
The Atlas I5 and I6's are fantastic motors hindered by the fact that they only came in truck chassis.
Everywhere you can mount an Atlas I5/I6 you can just as easily mount an LS and have a lighter motor that makes more power, more torque, and has more potential.
If they would have used the Atlas I6 in something like the GTO as a base motor it would have had a huge aftermarket.
But it's time has long passed and the segment where it would have been appropriate (~300hp) is already taken up with smaller direct injection V6's and turbo I4's that make more power and are more efficient.
RB
They're cheap except for the RB26 which will always be expensive for eternity
>>14674841
>>14674778
how stupid would it be to put this in a car
>>14675130
took this long
for shame /o/
>>14675237
i'd love one in the back of a twingo
>>14675237
Good luck getting an integrated coaxial transmission to work in anything but a transverse setup.
I mean you could try to mount an output shaft to the countershaft output but that would be kinda hokey.
>>14675237
Not that stupid, people have swapped the hayabusa engine in smart cars and shit
>>14675273
the Suzuki gsx1300r and yamaha r1000 do tend to find there way into sub 600 kg vehicles
and even then they have reduction gears to help compensate for the lack of torque
the car im looking to repower is about 750 kg
so I've been looking more into Yamaha outboard v6 engines but they do not come up second hand where as motor bike engines in need of a rebuild do
>>14675332
The lack of torque doesn't matter, it's more the small cooling jackets and light weight spec internals.
>>14674656
BMW M50
OM606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FYttMIdUmA
>>14674774
So nothing that'll take boost reliably?
>>14675403
>head gaskets a shit
>>14675272
The only problem is it's not actually that great of an engine... but then neither are most of the suggestions itt.
>>14675332
And what do you intend on using as a gearbox?
>>14674656
N54
>>14674656
7M-GE
>>14675693
not really sure
something like a 944 arrangement but negro rigged from Subaru and vw parts
Volvo T6 obviously
>>14675746
>No.
Headgaskets
>>14675762
>can be fixed by just turning some bolts tighter
>>14675749
>things that'll never eventuate
cool story bro
>>14676023
no balls ?
Nissan L28 1983
>>14674783
>>14674656
BMW S54B32HP
Less than 300lbs
360hp 370nm
3.2 L naturally aspirated
honestly can't think of a better straight six than that one. The 2jz is overrated, it only makes like 220hp n/a.
>>14676272
>Less than 300lbs
Not only I'm going to need a citation on that, but also what's actually fitted to (or omitted from) the engine when it weighs in at under 300lb.
And from memory they're closer to 330hp.
>>14674656
ISX MOTHERFUCKER
>>14676588
ignore everything that namefag has to say. he is a reatrded europoor bmw fanboy
>>14674680
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>>14675681
It makes more power and is more reliable at any level of power than every engine posted ITT
Or any other l6 in existence
>>14676602
>It makes more power
If peak outputs are the only measurement, sure. But even then, it's a slug without forced induction, albeit a good lazy street motor.
>and is more reliable at any level of power
Gotta pull you up there. You may get away with one of the later BF2 onwards (FPV engines) making close to 400rwkW, but further than that, it's not going to achieve any meaningful longevity, and the early XR6-T engines are a joke with anything more than a tune.
>>14676643
>If peak outputs are the only measurement
Yeah, lets forget about the massive amount of midrange torque. And lets pretend that the JZ and RB arent peaky as fuck, especially when making big power.
>>14674713
![gardner-6lxb-engine-14139_1b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zrMEjM4.jpg "gardner-6lxb-engine-14139_1b[1].jpg")
![TB45-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/seZAqbB.jpg "TB45-1[1].jpg")
TB45, because building and designing an engine in 1997 that still uses pushrods is a good idea.
>>14676727
I thought the TB45 was DOHC. The 42 was still pushrod.
Hemi 265, 305hp in 1972. Can push them to 800+ with boost these days.
>>14676749
On further inspection, >>14676727 You're right. It wasn't untill the TB48 it was designed with a DOHC head.
>>14676588
I'm talking about the upgraded, lightweight S54 version featured in the E46 M3 CSL. Look it up
>>14676597
stay mad amerifat
>>14676812
and the 300lb claim?
>>14676812
the only 'lightweight' thing on that csl engine is the exhaust...
please stop confusing shortblock weights with actual engine weights thank you
>>14674656
FORD B A R R A
>implying this isn't god's gift of engines
>>14675272
this desu senpai
>>14676930
its also gods gift to companies who want to charge rich people exorbitant amounts of money for mediocrity
>>14676912
Junk. Or just use a V8.... More power, not long as fuck, lighter and simpler.
>>14676937
literally, what?
>>14677022
Pretty much. Luckily the Coyote can be had these days.
>>14677022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiFnLOmnhWM
>>14677034
I dream of building up one of those 6.2l Boss V8s for my F250. Badass as shit motors and cool tech.
>>14677043
>straight line racing
closed. The only thing a Barra is good at.
Ford 4.9L I-6. Literally unbreakable.
Nissan TD42
Now if only I could find some money to pick up a decent LWB patrol with a td42t
>>14675272
>took this long see>>14674677
>>14676930
>$14,000 custom head on a 40 year old block
lel
>>14674656
Rb26
>>14677054
>mad muh v8 got spanked by a barra
>>14674680
Had an 82 f150 with one that cracked the head after ~430k miles (5 digit odo, but vin check showed it had rolled over 4 times). The thing barely had any compression at that point so i drove it about 6k with delicious milkshake for oil until it blew an inspection hole in the side of the block and it still managed to stay running for 10 mins until i got home. Fucking legendary.
>>14677022
no thanks I prefer: simpler, easier to boost, more reliable, more torque, perfect balance over "muh v8 tho"
>>14677295
It's the only engine that was able to run better after the cash 4 clunkers disabling fluid.
>>14676680
I like my peaky 2J with a 1.14a/r t4 housing. It may not hit target until 4400 but from then on, hold on!
I have fun with the xr6's around home. Some of them can keep up, most can't and some just hammer my Poopra, there's at least half a dozen 600 plus wheel horsepower getting around my home town with a pair or trio of 1000 plus wheel horsepower.
I like the barra probably as much as I like my own toojay.
>>14676694
The Gardeners! Oh man, a good few years ago I worked on a barge called the Mareeba with a pair of 8LXB Gardener's and twin discs. So slow but the most beautiful sound, and they could still be hand cranked with decompression levers on each pot. They are real engines, fifty thousand hour engines. We used to say you could smack bits off with a hammer while they run and they still won't stop.
Thanks man, memory trip.
>>14674656
Trick question, its the 2jz aka the best engine ever made
>>14677341
Helps that the falcon is a fat boat
>>14676680
peakiness is proportional to hp/litre
any engine making 500hp/litre will be peaky
>>14677548
Still fast as hell. Bloke here runs a 9.9 in a street legal Ute. Legal by a ballsack hair's width but he drives it to his workshop daily. She's hooking great on radials.
CAT 3406
>>14675295
The K1600´s output shaft is transverse, as is the engine. If you rotate it 90 degrees, the transmission output shaft would be pointing backwards. You´d have to remove the stock driveshaft, and make a new one, but it´d work.
>>14675237
It'd be an upgrade in every conceivable way in something like a BMW 1602 or 2002. Maaybe even in an E30. It'd be lots of work though, especially figuring out a way to do reverse. In that sense, a Goldwing would be easier because those have reverse stock.
>>14675403
Block material doesn't determine how much boost an engine will take. It's mainly static compression, ignition timing, fuel octane and internals. Block strength rarely comes into play, and if it does, you've got bigger problems than just block strength.
>>14676762
>IOE
Hello, hot intake air temps
>>14674656
>that isn't a 1jz or 2jz?
Reminder that the 2JZ is overrated as fuck. It's a pigfat lump and its only good characteristic is that it is strong enough to make a lot of power with forced induction.
>>14677841
> It's a large motor that is strong enough to make a lot of power with forced induction
> Over-rated
Pick one.
Is not being strong enough to make a lot of power with forced induction a sign of a good motor to you?
Stay on the bench, please.
>>14677920
>Is not being strong enough to make a lot of power with forced induction a sign of a good motor to you?
No, because things like packaging, weight, throttle response, and n/a output also matter.
>>14677920
Learn to read dumbass
Also there's more to "good" than making lots of power. You can start with not weighing 700lbs for only 3L of displacement.
>..noone mentioning the engine in the Honda CBX
We had this engine as a case study in my engineering studies. The complexity of the molds they used to cast this thing is downright god-tier.
>>14677960
forgot pic. fuck.
>>14677933
>700lbs
Confirmed for stupid.
2JZ with everything needed to run is like 500lbs which is on par for an OHC EFI performance engine.
>>14677967
...but is ridiculously high for somethign that needs a turbo added to that to make decent power.
>>14677933
Learn to read? Learn to communicate. It's not often you deplore something by pointing out it's virtues, you suckarse.
>>14677974
>iron block
>heavy factory twin turbo setup
no, its not that much at all really
>>14676937
This, and that's coming from a former l28 owner. If you're going to spend that much you could swap in a v12 or something.
>>14677974
338 kilograms for a GTE dressed with a 61mm turbo and manifold, including V160 trans. 338 kilo for 1000 on the shaft isn't bad. My little blown SBC combo with trans weighed more than this and made only high five on the shaft.
I know the numbers get thrown around from bench to bench but the 2J really isnt that heavy for it's power threshold.
>HUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRR 2JZ SHIT
>near 30 year old engine is still keeping up
>shit
>>14677967
>2JZ with everything needed to run is like 500lbs
Wrong
>>14677981
No, dumbass, if you weren't so busy sucking 2JZ dick like the stupid supra fanboy you are, you'd realize that there's more to engines than HURR MUH TURBO POWAA
>>14678068
>no ur wrong!11111111
>because i say so XD
fukin jej
>>14678068
I am aware that there is a lot more to engines than their peak output, I operate and maintain large ones for a living and build loud ones for fun. Earlier you sperged about packaging and weight, which is why I mentioned my larger, heavier and less powerful SBC blower combo. The tooj isn't that heavy, makes a lot of power, has a pentroof chamber that resists detonation, will make target reliably and can be built for a fair price. Piping is logical, sensors have calibration tables to make using a standalone ecu easier and oil changes are easy. Parts are cheap enough and the supplied cooling system is adequate for six hundred on the shaft. I think it has a lot going for it. It's not the best engine but far from mediocre.
But that's what you did, you colossal fool. You extolled it's virtues when I think you were supposed to to rag on it. 'pppsssssh I hate this engine, it takes a lot of air safely and makes power!! What a shit engine reeeeeeeeeeee!'
It's a tough CGI block turbo motor that is popular for being a tough CGI block turbo motor. I am a fan, as I built one and it did the thing with less heartache than the blown SBC did the thing. It is quite good, and still is quite good today.
Relax, you've never touched one, never owned one and never will so don't be upset, you'll only leave stains on the bench. Every point you make is regurgitated ideologies you've heard from someone else about an engine you don't know much about. You sure are a successful engine expert.
>>14680381
HOLY BLOWN THE FUCK OUUUT
>>14680381
parks and REKT
>>14674758
is the block cast-iron?
Has there been an all around d craopy inline 6?
>>14680651
Pains me to say it as the little motor has potential but the Nissan RD28T. The cooling galleries in the head are very poorly designed and it is not unusual to have 95 degree pots for 1-3 and 100+ degree pots on 5 and 6. Aluminium heads no likey, endless streams of cracked or warped heads on these motors.
When that's fixed they are a good little powerplant but from the factory, no good.
>>14674656
m104
>>14681104
M103
>>14681145
s-sure
Are VW's vr6s up for consideration since they only have one cylinder head?
>>14681256
VR6, not I6. Just like a straight eight with one cylinder head is also not an inline six.
>>14681284
is the VR6 is just a 6 cylinder straight eight
>>14681297
wut
>implying the L24 with DOHC isn't the shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LC_4J1MmRU
>>14681316
ehh, i get that pic...
>>14674656
M88/s38
>>14674656
GM LL8 4200 Vortec.
4.2L DOHC I6, most commonly found in Chevrolet Trailblazers.
Was on Ward's 10 best engines list. It's a shame it only ever got used in mom-tier SUV's and there's no real aftermarket support.
big cat is best cat
>>14674790
I really want one of those.
That and there's that tiny i6 they made that's like 250 cc's for racing in the 60's
Holy shit does that little fucker sound mean.
>>14681104
>>14681145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ6_4u2280Q
>>14687040
wew lad
>>14674680
>Chrysler
>Ever
1G-FE
M20
>>14690880
>Chrysler
That's a ford engine anon. Next time lurk moar instead of shitposting
Vortec 4200/ Atlas LL8
4.2 liter inline six
291hp 277ft lbs NA
6300 rpm redline
That glorius Bortec name
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/83758-chevrolet-vortec-4200-inline-six-engine/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Atlas_engine
>>14685821
God damnit you beat me to it
You Americans with your shit engines.
>4l straight 6 NA
>barely 300bhp
>Jap 1.8l straight 4 NA
>nearly 200bhp
S52
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>>14691786
The LL8 Atlas 4.2L was a TRUCK engine. it was not designed for horsepower. It was designed for durability and torque. They had to haul 5-6000 lbs Chevy Trailblazers around.
>muh peak numbers and HP per liter
Kill yourself.
>>14691586
>two cylinder banks
>inline
>>14691786
>comparing truck engines to high strung car engines
and you're calling the Americans stupid?
>>14690880
Please be a troll
