Guys I want to start a car project with my two mates.
We're all 18, and the aim is to buy something really crap and eventually work our way up to a sleeper.
Any suggestions? (Budget is <£1000 to buy the car itself)
>>14668362
buy a shit heap miata and do a junkyard turbo build. You'll be smoking GT mustangs quickly
>>14668464
>>14668470
>>14668362
>sleeper
Get a gt86 then
>>14668489
>(Budget is <£1000 to buy the car itself)
Also I assume they want something not slow
>>14668362
just avoid effu effu
If you can find a gs300 in England for that much pick one up
They have 2jz which you can mod the hell out of
>>14668556
2JZ-GE can be modded, yes, but it's not extremely flexible unless you change internals to GTE-parts, etc. Like all engines you can turbo them, but they won't take too much pressure before needing more upgrades.
>>14668362
Civic or Mini
>>14668556
But senpai! Autocuck gearbox!
>>14668568
BMW mini or Leyland mini? Both are bretty hard to find for under a grand.
>>14668563
forged pistons, head gasket and studs, oil squirters
rock solid block.
>>14668577
They are? Damn nevermind then
SAAB MY NIGGA!
9-3 2 door, biggest volume you can find with a turbo (fuck diesel saabs) and you can get quite a bit of power out of them, I remember some Faggot from the cuck that is Sweden got like 350 on stock internals.
An old Jag will be your best bet. You can get an S-Type with a 4.0 V8 for nothing. It's also sleeper as standard.
Or this
>>14669086
great idea
>>14668362
Get an old as corolla, or a shitty saturn and make it a sleeper
>>14669086
>Jaguar
>S-Type
Pick one. They were a bit shit. I've heard form several serial Jaguar owners who bought them new and sold them in favour of an older Jaguar within months because they just didn't feel like a Jag. It's a cheap V8 car sure, but they aren't special.
>>14669175
for £500 who cares?
>>14669184
Scrap is on it's arse so cheap cars are everywhere. Some scrappies are charging to take cars away and I've even heard some aren't sending their trucks out as it's not even worth the diesel. Five hundred quid can get you a lot of stuff at the moment so a cheap Jag could be a nightmare compared to other stuff on the market for the same price.
>>14668569
I'm pretty sure it's a fairly simple swap from auto to a W58 Manual for the GS300
>>14669721
They're apparently really easy to drift in auto tho
What's the easiest way to get loads of horsepower on a gs300? Twin turbos?
MR2 spyder k20 swap
>>14670479
What else would we need to do to run high boost?
>>14670491
Ooh, that's an idea. But it does have a sporty look so the sleepers out the window.
>>14670495
So much. Replace nearly all internals. It's too much work for a few friends on a few weekends.
>>14670508
Any easier suggestions? Just want a real clean sleeper project
>>14670534
Dunno, your best bet is to look for a RWD Volvo. Well made, reliable cars that can look like your dads car, and fuck the shit out of faggots in STis
>>14670576
Any first mods you could recommend? Other than exhaust
>>14670598
How about you fucking read up on shit before you ask for the mystery fast car that nobody but you knows about?
>>14670499
Nah, they are known as slowmobiles because of the weak ass engine
>>14670598
Swaps are a good way to go, but you can turbo them. There are some actually decent forums for old volvos, so you could look there for help. I'm not much of a knowledge on them myself, never owned one, although I've had an eye out for a 242 for some time.
Look for a civic with a d15/16/17 for under 500
Buy a used gt17 or pick one from a junkyard
Spend the rest turboing, 10:1 rising rate fmu, oil lines+cooler, etc the whole bs.
I did this with an eg sedan with a manual and a d17, gt1752, 8lbs wastegate, 8:1 fmu, walbro 255, stock injectors, custom manni, did it all with the car for 1100 usd.
Dyno'd 162fwhp at 8 pounds
Spend 600$ more for a piggyback/dyno tune, bigger injectors, a boost controller, a bov, and a wideband, and you could easily push 12-15 lbs given your tune is decent.
Honda motors are also a dime a dozen and the stock rotating assembly on most d15/16/17's can handle 160-240 crank hp, depending on the condition of the motor.
Stick to small inline motors to turbo as cheap projects, as small saab turbos are fucking pocket change and can easily double your output, given the stock rotating assemble can handle it and your tune is good.
For anyone in murica, cavaliers/s10's with the 2.2 ln2 ohv motors can handle up to 250 crank hp with a solid tune, makes for a kickass sleeper project.
Volvo 850 turbo, then play with the boost and tuning.
Alternatively, get a Miata and squeeze an ls3 in it.
Hope you guys have some money. You can't really do this on a shoestring budget.
>>14670721
>those tiny rear tires
>ls
kek
Not OP but I want to turbo a civic, what should I look out for/prepare?
>>14672758
I have an AEM standalone pnp for civic bnib
paid 1550 for it with a pinout kit... asking $1000
>>14669128
Holy shit, my dream car for 500 euro.
>>14668362
Go onto Autotrader and look at the <£500 category. Buy whatever the fuck you want, insure it, drive it home, park it somewhere.
It'll be a shitheap no matter what you buy, but I saw a BMW with 'only' 150HP due to engine issues on there a while ago. That's the sort of shit you can expect. That, or ancient Mondeos that are doomed to be parted out or sent to the banger racing circuit.
Then, you go on ebay and find parts for it.
>>14672758
look out for the whole project.
civic is dead because theyre not fast and not cheap.
consider a different platform.
I've seen someone start with a wrecked old E36, and finish with a 600hp sleeper, took them about 2 years though, and a whole lot of patience. Although I am almost certain that they paid less than a grand for the car prior to modding
>>14670721
>unsafe at any speed
