How come it's 2016 and still no one has managed to beat the inline 6 engine?
>>14651251
Emission standards. Or else conjoined inline sixes would be a lot more common.
>>14651262
You mean a V12?
and what about V8 vs I6 emissions?
>>14651251
why beat it when u can just have it?
>No one has caught on to the potential of the Atlas 4200 yet
>$500 all day long for a DOHC, aluminum block 4.2L I6
>Makes more power N/A than a 2jz with 10lbs of boost
>>14651294
>turbo
>ever
no thankyou
>>14651278
>power based on bullshit arbitrary conditions
no thankyou
>>14651294
You think this would fit in an s10? Seems like a good replacement.
>>14651294
Fuck yeah man, let the dumbasses be dumbasses. Not everyone can think for themselves, let them jock their 2ZJ and other magazine motors, let them waste their money. You can't help people like that, you can only beat them. Sometimes an anal thrashing is the only thing these faggots can understand
>>14651251
Beat it at what? Last years Le Mans winners had a V8 and a V4. Last WRC winner had an I4, as does the best selling car in the world. The current fastest car in the world has been back and forth between a V8 and a W16 and Inline 4's are currently dominating the WTCC. In what world hasn't the I6 been beaten?
>>14651273
V12's are significantly more thirsty than both.
>>14651306
the only real condition is full throttle
Only big diesel trucks and heavy duty diesel truck engines need to be straight 6. For cars a 4banger, V6 or a V8 are vastly superior for many reasons.
Cars are already pigfat looking as hell with transverse 4 cylinders and V6's, they'd be 10 feet wide if manufactures start using transverse inline 6's.
>>14651294
Literal 10/10 engine, now fuck off and stop posting about it before the price goes up
>tfw no n/a mk III supra with a 4200 turbo swap
>>14651354
>Not using Toyota's 1FZ-FE which arguably has more tuning potential.
>4.5L DOHC I6, all aluminium, detuned, oversquare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiNLW_Sjr90
>>14651294
>4.2l I6
AHHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAAAA GET LOST
pistonfags can't compete
>>14651251
>>14651860
This isn't a /willsuckdixforapexseals/ general
>>14651860
>"pistons can't compete, when mpgs are obsolete"
FTFY
Skip to 4:07 faggots
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y-Gdz6N-dU
>yfw japcrap V8 is smoother and better balanced that high end euro inline sixes
The inline six has been bettered for a long time now.
>>14651964
>I6 faggot fanboys won't even defend this
Everytime this is posted, they all abandon ship.
>>14651860
How can pistons compete?
>>14651251
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>>14653047
Inlinefags BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjwwV20iZYE
>>14651323
diesels
>cummins i6 12v best diesel on the market
>>14651251
But they have though
Toyota bolted 2x 1JZs together and made a delicious V12
>>14651349
>For cars a 4banger, V6 or a V8 are vastly superior for many reasons.
>doesnt post any reasons
i6 for days
>>14655065
Even if he gave you reasons, you'd probably still stick your fingers in your ears pretend it wasn't true.
Skip to 4:07.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y-Gdz6N-dU
>>14655065
All three are more compact length speaking
>>14651262
What makes an inline 6 bad at meeting emissions standards?
>>14651294
>Larger stroke than bore
no thanks
>>14655089
lets be honest now, that clip is 26 years old
>>14655107
Yep, that's at least how long I6s have been redundant for.
>>14655089
Damn i keep forgetting how good the 1uz is. The VH41/45DE too, forged internals from factory, weighs as much as an RB, but can make 500hp NA and up to 1000 with boost, vastly superior to any I6 of the era.
>>14655119
do you actually believe that?
>>14655126
Yeah, shame the UZ never got the wide angle valve "GE" heads.
>>14655132
Do you not? Why are i6s not redundant?
>>14655132
>26 years ago
>everyday japcrap cross plane V8
>proved to be smoother and better balance than high end European I6 options
I guess sines inline sixes have made such a huge comeback in passenger cars in recent times, this evidence doesn't count right?
>>14655148
how would one way of arranging pistons inside the engine be de-facto better than another? its what you want from the engine, how much space you have in the bay and shit like that. V6s are more compact (well, shorter at least), but dont have the engine balance of an i6. whilw the latter has a much narrower profile, but is longer.
SEE, ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES. NOW TRY MAKE A SHITBOX WITH AN 18 CYLINDER RADIAL OR A SUPERCAR WITH A 2 STROKE V-TWIN
how is this difficult to understand?
>>14655164
Or, you could have a V8 that is better balanced, more power, similar fuel economy and importantly, less pigfat weight hanging over the front axle.
I for one would happily take these advantages for spark plugs that may not be quite as accessible.
And it's not 1984 anymore. V6s are just as well balanced and smooth as an inline variety.
>>14655178
ignoring the fact that the engine is havier, and more thirsty?
>Falcon "Barra" 4.0 DOHC I6 Engine of the gods
>can't beat the lowly 3.6 Alloytech V6 powered Commodore without a turbo
Gud job Ferd
>>14655191
Better than the 3800 that's for fucking sure
>>14655188
>heavier and more thirsty
Good point, that's another two reasons I wouldn't readily choose an I6 configuration.
But they have? I4s are incredible especially diesels
>>14655196
you are not even trying at this point, are you?
>>14655199
>i4
>diesel
Pls no, it cant get worse than that.
>>14655204
Doesn't seem you are either.
Would you like me to link the LS400 Top Gear link again?
Sticking your fingers in your ears and claiming everything to the contrary isn't true doesn't make it so.
>>14655214
You mean how they are pushing so much torque in tiny engines? They make the same amount of torque found in large v8s
/thread
>>14655222
How they sound like shit, cant rev at all and have the response of a wet noodle.
>>14651251
Inline six engines are pigfat though, and have the package about as well as a rhino.
>>14651294
Why get that when an iron block LS is lighter, just as cheap, and it'll make even more power if you add some proper boost?
>>14651860
Hows that oil consumption and emmissions going for ya?
>>14653047
>tfw brap out of driveway and have to refill pil, gas, and refit apex seals
>best drive everrr
>>14655248
>cant rev
>has peak power at a low rpm
>>14653135
Sounds like my weed whacker.
>>14655303
Power band can be tuned to suit usage, diesels generally dont rev very high at all, which restricts the horsepower they can output at standart air-fuel ratios, but even if you tune it to deliver max power at top rpms, it'd still rev like a limp dick. Not to mention the engines are heavy as shit compared to gasoline ones. The only thing they're good for is towing shit.
>>14655269
Still one of the most reliable engines on the track. Evos and imprezas falling left and right while you keep on brapping
S54
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>>14651251
And yet, the V12, V8, and V6 exist.
>>14655372
am I a bad person for preferring the S50?
>>14651349
>transverse anything
somehow I don't think you're talking MR
>>14655194
>Better
If by better you mean pigfat, then yes.
![S60-R-engine[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oT8woC6.jpg "S60-R-engine[1].jpg")
>>14651349
Lolvo did a transverse i6, before they went progressive and decided that 4 cylinders is the most any car should have.
>>14651294
my stock 2.2l 5cyl turbo makes more than that thing and it's 21 years old.
why no one makes v4 anymore?
>>14655507
because Saab switched to a Triumph engine for FWD
>>14655517
Saab was always fwd
>>14655528
oshit, so they were
the longitudinal FWD platform always throws me off
>>14655507
Because it offers 0 packaging advantages in transverse setups over an inline four.
>>14651251
because V6 are better in literally every way compared to inline 6.
You know the I6 is dead when not even BMW makes them anymore. We can still hold out for turbo 4s
>>14655395
Even transverse MR's are wrong, It's just lazy engineering so they can use some econobox powertrain. Unequal length drive shafts are gross.
>>14655717
Unequal length driveshafts aren't that bad when they're driving the rear wheels though.
>>14655717
some cars have this weird extension coming out of the transaxle to make the effective length of the shafts equal
>>14651316
Nope too long. You'd have to do some serious work to the firewall.
>mfw jeep i6 just werks
long live I6
