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what's the consensus on /o/ for the s2000?
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It's no miata.
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>>14642176
thank god for that
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Good to make civics into rwd
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>>14642162
My dad reckons his ties with his old AW11 as the best car he's ever owned. Never driven one myself, mind.
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>>14642176
It's a far superior Miata.
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>>14642162
Best jap car since 2002
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>>14642212
what came out in 2002?
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overpriced overrated
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>>14642218
Last Supras and R34s off the line
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>>14642221
>overpriced

at 8k? no way.
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>>14642162
It's one of the best divers car of all time. Likely the greatest japanese roadster
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Borrowing my friends s2000 for a couple of weeks.

It's fucking awful.
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>>14642282
What is going on with those teeth? London?
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>>14642282
You just have shit taste... that or your friends s2k is some high mileage beat to shit ap1.
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>>14642162

overweight, slow meme car
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>>14642428
Enjoying those bus seats?
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big miata
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>>14642439

I'm sorry, did that post offend you?

Are you uncomfortable when other opinions challenge your own?
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Surprisingly, a completely different car from a miata.

Yet it gets compared to it all the fucking time.
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>>14642162
Great engine, chassis, and suspension design.
Cancerous fanbase when on the streets.
Not that bad when conefagging though, but nearly all of those people are nice no matter what they are driving.
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>>14642162
Was pretty good on the togue
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>>14642162
Which miata is this
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Very good car, but I would have to agree that it is overpriced. Handles very nice, but makes for a rough DD. Excellent day trip car, small trunk but deep enough to pack a suitcase.
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>>14642587
the non gay model
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>>14642568
this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKmocnNkzno
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>>14642162
Gutless for city driving. There is almost nothing until you get into the top half of the rev range.
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>>14643002

Hold a lower gear and stop lugging it.

Hell even torque monster diesels don't like to be lugged.
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>>14642232
where can i buy one for 8k that isn't crashed?
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https://youtu.be/PPjpkUW11_g

I guess it's better than a z4m not sure where thank ranks
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>>14642162
Best 6spd gearbox ever.
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>>14642451
Buscuck go and stay go.
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>>14642162
I genuinely believe this is one of the best cars that will ever be made since we are now in an era where safety and fuel economy regulations are ruining small sports cars. The only thing I think would be able to compare from here on out is a kit car like the factory 5 818.
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>>14643002
What the fuck are you doing?
When reading "S2000" the first thing you think about is city driving?
Why don't you stick to automatic econoshit turbodiesels you fuckstick?
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Wish I could fit in a s2000...

Or a Miata.....

Or an Elise.

I need a hug ;.;
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>>14643002
So what car is a "awesome city car"?
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>>14643147
Craigslist
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>>14642162
Best roadster until one can afford an elise
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why the fuck are these cars getting more expensive?
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>>14646211
Or a salad.
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>>14646539
elise/exige seems a little too boy racer for me. I feel like if I'm going that far I might as well just go for an ariel atom.
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>>14646618
Well how many of us on this board can ever own an Atom? I think anyone would love that thing but an Elise to me is the best sports car or roadster at least considering their price and performance but yeah I see how it is too boy racer I would love either though they would be a huuge step up from my z4 which is a pretty great car also
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>>14646377
only crashed ones go for less than 10k in california
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>>14646564
yea because being really tall isn't a thing.
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>>14642162
better than cant turn frs brz
Better than miata
Worse than elise
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>>14646954
>he lives in cali

you can't make this up
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>>14646539
I don't think so.

>>14646618
>elise/exige seems a little too boy racer for me
>posts atom

Oh the irony.
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>>14647089
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>>14647546
I meant too boy racer for a daily driver. I am well aware ariel atom is maximum boy racer which is why I would choose it over an elise if I was already going down that road.
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I like the s2k, never driven one but I will purchase one. The s2k reminds me of Lotus, low weight, enough horsepower, great looks and quick around corners. God I want one!
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>>14642162
It's the most raw and most fun car I've ever driven (AP1)
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Elise owner here, I hesitated a lot between Elise and S2K, but in my country insurances are overpriced for young drivers...based on HP sadly, So the Elise was the perfect match.

I would drive it daily if I could, I just don't want to add useless km to its mileage....

>>14647546
And yes, caterham all day.
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>>14647982
Would you say in its price range the Elise is the absolute best car to get the most out of what you paid for?
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>>14647665
>almost 3000lbs
>low weight
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>>14642232
>8k
mmm sure, maybe if the previous owner killed someone and shat on the seats
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>>14648504
>this is what cucks believe
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>>14648471
It's light, but I really don't know how they managed to make it weigh 3k. If it was around 2k it would have been really good and much faster.
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>>14648699
i think they stiffened the hell out of it with steel. i don't know why they didn't use aluminum for non stiff shit though.
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lexington.craigslist.org/cto/5421999537.html

if i destanced this, is this a good buy at $8800? also how hard is it to destance a ride?
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I drove one of these recently
lots of fun, it really sticks to the ground and stays stiff, even for a bitch basket
not as fun as BMW Z3 6cyl or Toyota MRS
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>>14649094
Most of it is aluminum, that's what gets me. I owned an AP1 and loved it, but I've said it before in other threads, it was dog shit slow compared to modern cars like the c6 that cost near the same amount used.
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>>14651775
>not as fun as a z3
wtf am i reading? I've owned both and the z3 is by far more boring to drive. It's much heavier, taller gearing, lower redline, softer suspension.

How the fuck is that more fun?
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>>14652378
as far as i know, the only thing aluminum is the hood... doors, fenders, trunk and general body panels are made from glorious nippon steel folded over 10,000 times.
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How would they compare to a 06+ 350Z? At least a AP1.
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>>14652388

you try driving the z3m? the one with the s54
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>>14648228
Prolly, it depends your criterias, for mine it was.
Except its cousin the Opel Speedster maybe, which is a cheaper clone. (Or Vauxhall)
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>>14651775
>not as fun as BMW Z3 6cyl or Toyota MRS

Let me guess, deluded z3 owner?
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>>14642227
rx7s too
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>>14642162
Hairdresser rice express.
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>>14649223
The geometry is probably all fucked up, same with the undercarriage.
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>>14655001
how about this then

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/5452296078.html
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>>14654736
have you driven all three, smugposter?
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its like your gay

but you dont want a Miata
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>>14642162
S A L V A G E B O Y S
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>>14655012
forgot pic
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It's like you want a miata

But you're not gay
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>>14642221
well kept S2000s can be found for less than 15k
but yes overpriced for what it really is.
>>14646263
American muscle cars do really good city cars. Lots of power, lots of torque, don't necessarily need to corner to just enjoy power, and you're not cornering too hard just driving around, so you don't get the typical boat feeling.
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>>14649223
never buy a car that was stanced unless you also intend to stance it
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>too oversteery
>too expensive
>too twitchy
>HI SNAP OVERSTEER
>Looks boring
>looks literally like a rounded shoebox
>absolutely no power until 9k revs
>all thrashed to shit because meme car
>oversteer death

All of /o/ would get one if given half a chance, including me.
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>>14655115
dumbest post
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>>14655115
It's not "too oversteery", it oversteers when you want it to.
It's not too expensive, it's not the cheapest.
It's not twitchy, it's responsive.
What the fuck are you talking about snap oversteer, this is an S2000, not an AW11.
S2K isn't a meme car
jesus

You realize we're talking about an S2000 and not an MR2, right? There's no way in hell you've ever driven one if this is what you believe.

and I mean seriously
snap oversteer, but no power except at 9k? That's just contradictory.
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>>14642227
Also s15s
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>>14642162
>s2000
i can smoke that in my dads jetta with a few simple mods
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>>14655145
not if he's running more than 100 grand under the hood.
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>>14655115
>too oversteery
no way, I had a hard time inducing oversteer when I drove it

>too expensive
not sure about this

>too twitchy
It has focused, responsive steering with no dead zone, like an MR-S or Miata

>snap oversteer
Are you referring to noob-tier lift-off induced oversteer?

>looks
I bought an MR-S, looks aren't exactly high on the list for everyone

>absolutely no power
It has some, spirited driving requires you to stay around 6500-7500 RPM though

>thrashed to shit
depends on your mexican ratio
in SoCal they're 90% salvage title
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>>14655145
Not if there's a corner.
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>>14648567
>this is what kids that never bought a used car believe
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>>14655179
>there's no such thing as a good deal because i suck and so does everyone else

you can't forge such a tale
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>>14652715
350z every time
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>>14642162

It's a shame that so many ricers "stanced" them.
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>>14655184
>a car is not overpriced because there might be a good deal xD
I can also buy a used 911 for under 8k, sadly I'm not completely clueless and think I stumbled over a great deal. I wouldn't expect some memefaggot to know shit about the used car market though.
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>>14655218
>I can also buy a used 911 for under 8k
you literally can't. an 8k 911 wouldn't even be registrable. nice comparison fagtron. an s2000 to a 911 really shows what you fucking know.
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>>14642221
people will pay what they're willing to pay for them. Obviously there's a reason for this, so maybe you should do some research on them so you can understand maybe why someone would pay a stupid** amount of money for them.

**stupid: I.E. poorfags on /o/ that can't afford a 13k$ car.
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>>14655218
ignorant fuck
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>>14652409
Heavy as fuck for a 2 seater 4 cylinder. A shame, really.
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The best thing about the s2k is the fact that most people are used to lifting in ohshit situations. Most cars will come back to you in that case, but the s2000? The s2000 says fuck you for being a pussy and kills you.
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The most overpriced, overrated meme cars you can buy. 15k for a 15 year old car with 120k+ miles, 555-come on now.

And seriously, even miatas look 2x better. After the 70's Honda did well with the NSX styling and that's it. Everything else was boring rounded box, boring rounded box, boring rounded box. Crx, Del Sol, any civic, prelude, ALL BORING ROUNDED BOXES.
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>>14655389
here's a really funny video where an S2000 driver almost kills himself for no reason whatsoever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwMNYtyQq64
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>>14655411
yeah but a EG hatch with a few simple mods would kill a NSX let alone a shitty S2000 for thousands less
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>>14655411
This. So much this. I used to want one then I realized literally 100% of them were owned by honda cucks that were all I KNOW WHAT I HAVE 20k FIRM

>>14655412

And nothing of value was lost.
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>>14655428

0.5/10 bait. Go back 2 skewl spring break's over already.
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>>14655437
gb2facebook

getting tired of you whiny faggots calling everything you dont agree with as bait

its not even debatable what I said is a fact
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>>14655443

"Debatable" "fact"

0.4/10 bait. You're getting worse kid. Stop vaping, it ruins your mind.
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>>14655412

Americans should stick to going fast in straight lines.
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>>14655447
>Getting worse
>he still replies

your not very bright are you

its not bait because you have autism and cant accept being wrong
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>>14655115
the only ones that have a tendency to oversteer and have fast steering are the AP1s

and if you think it's too expensive now you're gonna be disappointed when they never get cheaper from here on out

and it does look relatively boring which is what I like about it. car design got edgy as fuck in the past few years for some reason. C7 is literally the worst looking corvette ever in my opinion.

>absolutely no power until 9k revs
vtec only adds like 20 torque at most so if it has no torque before vtec then it also has no torque after vtec.

>all thrashed to shit because meme car
this is the only valid statement in your shitpost
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>>14642902
Is this guy serious? I'm probably faster on my local mountain with my work rav4...
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>>14655454

0.3/10 No more weed for you lil' tyke. It's for grown ups.
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>>14655411
>>14655434
Their awesome cars, just overpriced like lots of other japanese sports cars

The worse part is how 90% engines are rebuilt
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>>14655459
>reducing score as he accumulates replies
>replying at all to venerable copypasta memes

I don't know who's trolling whom anymore
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One of the best cars of its time. Values will double in 10 years, mark my words.
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Ugh. We have this thread every other day.

They're good. That's it. Not great, but good. They're just fine. Not the godmachines your anime or whatever has made you believe.

The biggest joke is people pay 15-25k for these still, and will for a long time. Which is fine, they can waste their money as much as they want, it's a free country, and when they crash and roll over (and they will crash and roll over, because hello oversteer) there will be less mouths to feed and the world will be better for it.
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>>14655467
for clean examples, possibly
but those are going to become ridiculously rare
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>>14655472
no they're great. not perfect, but great.
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I'd give it a 0.2/10
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>>14655223
He probably wasn't paying attention to it. 911s w/ no engine/tranny go for about 10k, though vary greatly between the years.
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>>14642587
Doublegay model
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>>14655412
You seriously cannot hoon them with bald tires because you're just asking for it. If you come off the throttle too fast for any reason while under lateral g you are fucking toast.
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>>14642162
>consensus
>o

pick one
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>>14655389
made the mistake of lifting first week i owned it. never again.
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>>14658495
I drove 2nd and 3rd gen MR2s quite a bit before I drove the S2k, so I lost the lift-off habit real fucking quick

is it actually as bad as MR cars?
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>>14659264

it's basically MR so it can be almost as bad.
early SW20s have other issues like bump steer and toe out on suspension rebound that makes it worse.
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>>14659383
Yeah I guess it's FMR with the weight mostly in the center
the older MR2 I drove for a while was a 1991, I loved how horrifying it was
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Got 15k for a S2000 and a dealer nearby has 5 of em for sale. Things I should look for? Things to avoid? What if they know what they got?
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>>14659590
http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/775801-what-to-look-for-when-buying-a-used-s2000-or-just-bought-a-used-s2000/
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>>14655459
Go to bed Brandon squire
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>>14642227
Don't forget the nsx didn't stop production until 2006
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>>14655094
>american muscle cars are at thier best when crawling through traffic at 25mph
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Hondafag here.
Like every other Honda/Acura product, the s2000 uses the minimal amount of stock power to be a spirited ride as opposed to other car manufacturers. It just needs that magic touch (Mugen,Spoon,Jun,etc.) to reach it's full potential as a competitive car.
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>>14661096
>s2000 uses the minimal amount of stock power
It's a 2 liters with 240hp.
That's almost all the juice you can get out of a 2 liter.
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>>14661113
The numbers tho.
Low torque, low horsepower
Most Hondas i've owned (9) are at about 60% of their potential stock.
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fag mobile
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>>14661126
lol
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>>14658066
What if you practice in rfactor
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>>14662854
not even Asshole Corset will save you in real life
there is a lot more feedback from sitting in a real car, and some of that feedback will confuse nub drivers, that's why crashes caused by lift-off oversteer even are a thing in the first place
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>>14662854
you have to use rfactor pro
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>>14659264
I've never driven an MR so who knows, but with the weight being almost 50/50 and the suspension unloading when you lift it can bring the ass out very quickly.

It's pretty skittish in the rain too. If the pavement was wet I could jab the throttle and bring the ass around on demand. It was fun, but not really a safe thing.

I loved my ap1 though, all flaws aside. Best car I've ever owned.
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>>14664117
I drove a friend's AP1, I think I would prefer it to the AP2 because I like sensitive steering and the higher redline
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>>14655168
>mexican ratio
It's actually more dependent on your white boi racer/flip ratio. Mexicans like civics, they usually can't afford s2ks.
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>>14664162

no, when x dirtbag into hondas (dominicans/puerto ricans in ny/nj/ct/pa/florida, mexicans and viets in socal) graduates from shitbox 1990s civics they "leave the scene" by financing a shitbox tsx/s2000/8th or 9th gen si for way too much money. if not financed its almost always hackjob'd and salvage/branded.

pic related, he's "graduating" after 10-15 or so civics/integras
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>>14642162

it's alright. i've driven both ap1 and ap2 on a number of occasions. i like it, but not to the point where i'd consider owning one. 4cyl NA just isnt my thing.
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what's the point of the s2000 when rx8s are so much cheaper and less likely to kill you
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>>14664193
Top kek
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>>14642162
Fucking old and therefore trash.
If you have a time machine to get one fresh from Suzuka, then go for it.

I personally love the S2000.
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>>14661126
the mugen s2000 is like 20hp over stock.
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About to go from a 01 civic to a 05 S2000. How do I drive this thing so I don't wrap it around a pole?
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>>14667040
Don't haul ass around corners then lift off the throttle in the middle of it. You have to keep the power consistent or the suspension can unload and cause the spin.

Ap2s are a lot more neutral than the ap1, just make sure your tires aren't bald.
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