I see a lot of cheap rx8s where people fucked the engine up. Is it reasonable to get one and engine swap it? What kind of performance does the chassis have to ither platforms? I hear the suspension and lad are decent, but does the pillar and 3rd door male it loose?
I was thinking an f20c would keep the high rev lightweiht aspect the dorito had.
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>RX8
No. Just no. To answer any question you may have regarding it: no. Not at any time. Simply no.
No.
>>14426372
Why not? I know the engine is shit. Thats out of the way.
>>14426356
it's quite a finely balanced chassis. so putting a heavy engine in it will make it understeer.
it handles like it has a longer wheelbase than it does (inb4 corey) and if you can keep your nerve and a steady throttle on bends it just grips hard
>>14426372
>>14426387
Fucking retards.
It's a good car and the engine is fine if you know how to take care of it. The whole chassis is designed around the rotary so if you engine swap it you're ruining the whole thing.
Why I expect anything apart from jalopnik-tier kiddies pretending to know what they're talking about on neo-/o/ is beyond me.
>>14426387
Why an RX8 instead of engine swapping some other shitbox?
>>14426419
Are you telling me you'd take an RX8 over an RX7? People shit on the RX8 because it's a bad successor with a lot of problems.
Plus it's just ugly.
>>14426419
even on those blue moons when it's working properly it gives you 4 cylinder power with V8 fuel consumption
The chassis is fucking awesome. Superior to the series 8 rx7 in some ways.
Mazda in order to pass emissions etc dropped plans for a turbo rotary and did a rush job on the na rotary.. Resulting in a shit heap.
>>14426443
>even on those blue moons when it's working properly
just shut up
>>14426419
everything these kids have to say is just shit opinions they saw some other stupid kid say
>>14426356
I have an f20 but this be dumb.
If you want the f20 buy an S.
If you want a coupe buy a hardtop.
If you want a swapped rx8 do a 13b or a v8 senpai
![Always+shipped+naruto+and+hinata+just+thought+_8e260373ceaa39014d49b6a2e33d922c[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lTOex4G.png "Always+shipped+naruto+and+hinata+just+thought+_8e260373ceaa39014d49b6a2e33d922c[1].png")
>>14426482
cry more rotard
>>14426491
An s wouldnt be as stiff as the rx8 though?
>>14426541
to add to this, the rx8 is cheaper. an s2k goes for like 9-10 grand. an rx8 is 5k. inb4 you get what you pay for...i'm paying for a nice chassis and the rx8 fits!
>>14426604
>5K
I'm seeing several rollers around here for 3-4K depending on condition. That's cheap as fuck, it might actually leave enough room for an engine swap and still be cheaper then an S2K.
>>14426609
that's what i'm saying. i'm not knocking the miata or s2k as platforms. it's just that an rx8 is as good. it has a wishbone setup, it has a light curb weight (at least when stripped of the bags). it has a reasonable wheelbase. it can take an f20c without heavy modding from what i saw in forums about the rotation being identical, and perhaps the gauge cluster could be preserved due to similar powerbands. bang for buck i think it'd a sick project car, be it track or just road shit.
>>14426619
plus it's newer. you wouldn't have to deal with 10 year old cumstains in the interior.
in all seriousness i am curious if you can connect the engine to the stock gauges with an aftermarket control unit.
>>14426420
Because the chassis is stiff like your mum makes my dick
>>14426623
From what i can remember with people running swapped RX8's, the gauge cluster is a PITA. Also, most people swapping an F20 into something use the stock S2K cluster. I think you're not going to easily be able to use the RX8 cluster with the F20.
>>14426436
Foxbody mustangs are ugly as fuck but they're still popular with notchbacks still demanding a premium
>>14426680
i see. i hope the dash is modular enough that you wouldn't have to cut into it.
I swear to god there's a thread about people buying or fapping to an RX-8. I don't know why people do this, but Mazda sure did a damn good job trying to get people who don't know shit to want something as broken as that.
>>14426705
nice blog faggot. how about you actually contribute or fuck off.
>>14426705
They brought it to market when the NFS/Fand and Furious craze was still high. Mazda relied on the built-in RX7 fanbase and used that car's appeal to market it to newfag drivers who wanted a dorito "experience" due to muh-vidya-gaem-feels and epic-racecar-moovee-excite.
>>14426705
>>14426719
>instead of talking about cars, i'm going to talk about fanbases, because i'm a REAL enthusiast!
consider suicide
>>14426372
Do not listen to this retard. Go out and find a six-speed, the later the model the better. If it doesn't run, they'll sell it for dirt cheap usually. Remove the engine yourself and have it sent into a place that will rebuild it with potentially minimal parts for 800-1,200. Replace the coils, upgrade the ignition, upgrade the exhaust which should all run to 2,500-3000.
Everything might end up costing 5-6K for a car that will easily last 150K miles with a little maticulous maintenance.
>>14426984
what's a good name in the world of coilovers?
>>1442630>>14427006
Ebay
>>14426541
>>14426604
This is probably true.
My point isn't that that the s2000 is a better chassis. The point is if your going to the trouble of swapping in an engine do one that is more powerful that the f20. It wouldn't make sense to drop 10k on a swap and have 40 hp added.
Also I really hope this is a race car if you think the difference in chassis rigidity is going to be important. And if it is then you need to check the regs on what class you'll be in with what swap.
If this is a street car your an idiot desu.
>>14427146
classes are always split by displacement, but what makes it stupid to use it as a street car? it's not like i'm throwing in a roll cage.
>>14426728
>you can only discuss cars, not things related to cars
Mazda has an owners warranty and if its the last model(the earlier years were covered up to a certain amount of years and are no longer eligible)and under 100k miles they'll swap the engine free of charge, I'd look more into it but i don't like rx8s, I've heard it on here and seen the actual document on their website
>>14426356
>swap
Swap ur life m8 don't touch the dorito
>>14427006
Bc, but get stiffer spring rates than what they offer stock
How much do rx8s weigh? I keep finding vastly different numbers online
>>14428303
420 meters
>>14427269
If i get an RX8 with a bad engine and under 100k miles they will rebuild free?
>>14428349
I think the offer is only good for 10 years after factory manufacturing date
>>14426356
it's designed to take a 1.3 rotory, you figure it out.
>>14427155
What makes it stupid??
Obviously you have no concept of how expensive and difficult engine swaps are.
And your asking if you should dump 10+k into an rx8 by adding an f20c that makes 40hp more than the rotary because you want the engine but not the s2000 chassis because the rx8 is minutely more rigid.
1. Your going to lose all of that money, because nobody will buy your hack job Frankenstein f20 rx8
2. If your going to the trouble of a swap then make it something with substantial power.
3. Chassis rigidity has an unbelivably negelgent impact on a street car. As long as it isn't attrociously soft you won't even notice.
4. If you want an f20 but a damn s2000 and save some money and resale value.
5. If you want an rx8 (idk why you would desu) the. Modify the rotary and get 40 hp more out of it and enjoy your 8k of savings
>>14428733
>getting 40hp out of a renesis without f/i
lol
>>14428733
You show me an alternative to the F20 that has
>240hp
>revs to 9K
>has decent gas mileage
>weighs next to nothing
Seems like the perfect thing to swap into an RX8 if you don't want the rotary (or a K20, but that's pretty similar).
1. Some people don't buy with intentions to resell.
2. Power isn't everything. Besides, a turbo F20/K20 will be enough power, with better mpg than the stock rotary.
4.You might actually be able to get S2K performance for less then 10K if you do it right, giving that 3-4K RX8 rollers are readily available. Meanwhile, the price of an unmolested S2K will creep upwards. Honda might not make a new roadster, and that'll bump up prices even more. Meanwhile, the RX8's bad engine and extra doors make it the redheaded step child of the family. It'll get lost if the RX9 is any good, and cheap examples for 3-4K will always be had. They aren't even at the bottom of their depreciation curve yet! Swapping on, even with an inline 4, just makes a whole lot of sense.
>>14428777
Yup. The suck.
So I stand by my options.
1. If you must Rx8 swap a powerful motor.
2. If you must f20 S2000
3. Don't buy an rx8 for any reason, especially if the swap is for a street car.
>>14428802
Breh....
I OWN an f20. You don't need to sell me on how good they are.
And when your swapping a motor power, weight, and cost are really the only things that matter desu.
Also an f20 isn't as light as you think
F20 360
Ls1 385
Next up the swap will cost you 10k at least.
Parts alone for the engine will be 5-7 for used
Assuming you do the labor and the wiring and all that your looking at a rx8 that is as fast or a bit slower than an s for more than an s. Just doesn't make sense.
you might as well swap an ls1 in it breh. actually, get an iron block truck motor so all the weight distribution fags lose their shit. B-B-B-BUT MAH FIVTEE50 shun the blasphemer.
>>14426448
as such, the only reasonable reply goes unnoticed.
Chassis is good. Engine has some drawbacks, can be pain if not kept properly, but can be lived with. It's limited due to emissions, and fuel and oil consumption is awful. For the money, they would make a decent project vehicle.
>>14428857
for more than an s? they cost over 10k easy unless their mileage is in the quarter million. i found an f20c with the transmission for under 2k for christ sake.
>2k for engine+trans and 4k for rx8
>the swap is going to cost 5k
you must be insane.
>>14426356
>asking people who don't own or drive, or have ever driven a RX-8 if you should buy a RX-8
>expecting anything but meme answers
whew lad
Some nig in toronto is doing a f20 swap
http://www.rx8club.com/canada-forum-35/scuba-steves-build-thread-249940/page7/
>>14428777
230whp is achievable with the renesis with just exhaust and a very good tune. thats it. no intake, no porting, just exhaust and ecu/tune.
>>14428802
>three years of work
>still not running yet
The rotary is rebuilt in an afternoon.
>>14426356
The chassis is good. A bit heavy for what it is but the car handles better than most in the corner. In all honesty, if you are going to swap an engine, put a 3 rotor in it. You will keep the rotary fans happy and 3 rotors are fucking epic on and off the track. The RX-8 always needed more power for its weight, and a 3 rotor would solve that and destroy a lot of competition.
>>14430902
>230whp is achievable with the renesis with just exhaust and a very good tune. thats it. no intake, no porting, just exhaust and ecu/tune.
I bet its mpg is into the single digits with that kinda tune
>>14428802
>240hp
the renesis
>revs to 9K
the renesis
>has decent gas mileage
its pretty much identical to the... the renesis
>weighs next to nothing
the renesis
>Swapping on, even with an inline 4, just makes a whole lot of sense
it makes zero sense. So why spend all the time and money on a swap when you gain literally nothing?
>>14430926
b-but muh memes
>>14430902
lol what? There are people with cobbs, catless mps and intakes that fail to surpass 200whp. please show me one person making 230 wheel n/a
>>14431054
I concur
I don't even think the rotor specialist shops over here even offer atmo tune-up packages for RX8s, it's not worth the time.
Plenty offer centrifugal supercharger setups though. That's be nice.
>>14431054
Can't find the article at the moment, but in 2009 the 2nd place STX car at the Solo Nationals was a RX-8, which made 221WHP on the dyno.
>>14431054
>cobbs, catless mps and intakes that fail to surpass 200whp
because they are stupid ricers
the guys racing formula mazdas know exactly whats up. exhaust, tune, factory intake, 230whp
>>14426623
WTF? Is that a RHD instrument cluster in a LHD car?
>>14428303
Varies by year/series, and trim options. Generally it's right around 3,000 lbs for a S1, not sure about S2 off the top of my head.
>>14426705
>I don't know naything about it, so anybody who likes it must be a retard!
>>14431435
I have a S1 base Sport, it cracked 2,801 on the scales with 1/8 tank of gas.
>>14431054
>>14431721
thats not a meme... i d-dont know how to reply
>>14430914
how much are 3 rotors?
![142144d1247494284-223-rwhp-dynojet-na-4th-gear-pz41m[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DPc7yLJ.jpg "142144d1247494284-223-rwhp-dynojet-na-4th-gear-pz41m[1].jpg")
http://www.rx8club.com/attachments/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/142144d1247494284-223-rwhp-dynojet-na-4th-gear-pz41m.jpg
>>14426436
>are you insane you'd rather buy an rx8 over a 30 year old car
Fuck off m8
>>14433476
swap is around 15-20k I think, depends on how much you are doing yourself
>>14426684
Foxbodies aren't ugly
>>14426984
>lasts 150k
>with maticulous maintenance
>rotards will defend this
>>14435105
>changing oil/spark plugs is meticulous maintenance
