Is there a better truck in 2016 that isn't a land-barge?
>>14316517
Yes.
1998-2011 rangers,
first gen tacomas
early nissan frontiers and hardbodys
A truck should be a tool, not a fashion statement. Therefore a new one is dumb because you'll beat it up.
What happened to this concept?
>>14316559
What if I like the appeal of less than 1000 miles on the clock?
>>14316614
Transcend such base desires.
>>14316517
>4 door
>not a barge
This thing is just as big as a SC/SB full size.
what's this bullshit that's on every new truck and suv in the last few years?
>>14316673
CAFE standards dictate better aero, it's easily removed for off-roading.
>>14316673
Thank CAFE. It's for
>muh mpg
>Car design is easy
>>14316684
It's not actually easily removable. There's like 8 screws and clips and shit
>>14316684
>>14316685
If it's for CAFE, why don't they just lower the body until the aero is accomplished naturally?
>>14316721
Then you have to design and test two different suspension setups which increases cost. And truck buyers want
>muh high seating position
>>14316721
Because then it's not an
>AGRESSIVE OFFROAD MACHINE
>tfw Chevy will never make another "Extreme" series small truck
>>14316718
OH NOOO LIKE EIGHT SCREWS AND CLIPS!!!!!
>as good as welded no chance of removing.
>>14316774
To the average joe, yes.
>>14316784
So average Joe is too retarded to remove eight screws and a couple of clips?? Seriously, you drive to a garage when your windshield fluid is empty??
>>14316798
>playing some auto vidya the other night
>chatting with guy online
>got a new-to him-bmw E90
>"I gotta go to the dealership I bought my car from, my low tire pressure light came on"
>cringingintensifies.jpg
>>14316517
>tfw no more regular cab Tacomas
It's a shame, but I'd still consider it the best new light truck when it has the Access Cab.
Daily reminder that a truck with more than two real doors isn't a truck, it's an obese sedan for suburban cowboys and fake country soccermoms that wear cowgirl boots to the grocery store.
>>14317224
Amen brother
>>14316517
>isn't a land-barge?
if its not big its not a truck you faggot
>>14316973
Why so ugly?
>>14316559
Buying a used truck is tough because they are always beat up. It's not hard to keep everything but the bed nice, Even if you never wash it.
>>14316673
>>14316684
>>14316718
While Ford is shitting down everyone's throat with EcoBoost bullshit, Chevy is meeting fuel economy standards without drastic changes.
Adding an airdam that increases MPG to make the Feds happy, but everyone can remove.
Adding AFM on the 5.3L V8 that again makes the Feds happy, but can be turned off by a tuner.
>>14316610
It was just a concept so far. They ended up going with the Z71 "Trail Boss" edition instead of the ZR2.
>>14317815
Removing an air dam... why the Fuck would you do that apart from laziness to keep putting it back on
>>14316559
>first gen tacomas
Yeaaaah boy!
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As far as 2016 trucks go that aren't huge, I'd go with the new Tacoma. Not overly fond of the front end, but otherwise it appears to be a solid truck.
I don't mind the new Colorado, but there is something about the shape of it that rubs me wrong whenever I see one. I think it's the back of the cab.
>>14317837
>why the Fuck would you do that apart from laziness to keep putting it back on
If you actually go off-road, it's useful to remove it.
Who gives a shit about gas mileage? A Colorado is a truck, it's going to get shitty gas mileage regardless.
People buy a Colorado for the size not the MPG. If you want MPG, buy a DD.
>>14317865
Yeah no one who owns a new "truck" or car goes offroad with it. Use your airdam and enjoy some cool air.
Or go offroading, whatever
Hello
>>14317869
>implying
>>14317869
>no one who owns a new "truck" or cars goes offroad with it.
You cannot be serious. First off, every truck was new at some point. Second, just because you don't think new trucks are 'real' trucks, that doesn't mean everyone who buys one does. I have no doubts there will be plenty of offroading with new trucks. Hell, Toyota is pushing the offroad capability of their new Taco pretty heavily.
>>14317870
My uncle had a Dakota. Very dependable truck. And I'm a bit jelly of it being a smaller truck offered with a V8.
>>14317869
so the people who go off road can take it off and the people who don't can keep it on.
which part are you struggling with here?
>>14317922
The People Who Go Offroad
>6 cylinder diesel
Wat
>>14317815
That thing seriously contributes to fuel economy?!
>>14317994
Supposedly. The idea is that it redirects air below the underbody of the truck, where there are a lot of parts that aren't smooth and therefore restrict the airflow and thus the aerodynamics of the vehicle. Seems like some negligible bs to me, but it must work if it's satisfying CAFE or whoever needs to be satisfied.
>>14318004
What is CAFE? What does it stand for?
>>14317865
No, only the gas colorado gets bad mileage.
>>14318010
Corporate Average Fuel Economy
Basically each manufacturer has to maintain a certain average mpg across their fleet.
>>14317815
turning up the boost on my ecoboost made me pretty happy. can you do that with a stock 5.3?
>>14318019
The diesel may get better mileage, but it will take about ten years to break even.
>$3,730 option
>Diesel is more expensive in 80% of the US
>DEF
>More expensive oil changes
>>14318010
US fuel economy standards that say automakers have to have a fuel economy average of 54.5 MPG across their vehicle lineup by 2025.
Which is an extreme value that they can't meet as the average is about 20.
That's why vehicles are getting wider and longer. They have to adhere to less stringent requirements. That's why there is no regular cab midsized truck anymore.
>>14317994
Auto manufacturers are stretching every single percent of fuel economy. That's why most cars no longer have even a donut, but a tire inflation kit. That air dam helps with about +1 MPG.
I'm not sure why, but in my opinion they all American trucks look dumb.
Maybe thats because they are so big that even with big fat tyres, the wheels will always look very small. Why are American trucks so huge?
>pic related, my kind of truck
>>14317926
What About Them?
>>14318030
Can your engine last ten years without shitting apart?
I don't know, let's ask the guy who owns a King Ranch on /o/.
>>14318093
well I would say you should ask me in another 8 years and 9 months, but realistically I have no desire to own this once the warranty is up what with all of the lol Microsoft shit inside of it.
>>14317865
My truck is my DD and I got the Colorado for the mpg's. I average 24.5 over 10,000 miles.
>>14318111
gas or diesel?
>>14318062
Well, OP is an Isuzu based truck, which not only competes directly with the Hilux in many global markets, but is also the exact same size.
>>14318033
I don't know what shitty part of the usa you live in. But where I live diesel is cheaper then premium. By the way you only have to add def every 7500 miles.
And if you worry about the cost of a oil change you should ride a bicycle.
So what about the diesel upgrade price. Most people keep their trucks for a while.
>>14317815
>'15 Ford F150
>up to 19 city 26 highway
>'16 Colorado
>up to 20 city 27 highway
>Fords full size within 1mpg of Chevys "small" truck
Retarded Chevy shill plz go.
>>14316718
Are you actually retarded?
>>14316721
Because half of the appeal of a mini truck like the colorado is ground clearance for off roading.
>>14317224
+1, 3 door is best door
I'm so mad that chebby didn't offer the mini duramax without the shitty 4 door body
>>14318019
Little trucks all get bad gas mileage, they always have. Only total ifiots buy little trucks thinking theyre going to save money on fuel, within 5 mpg of their full sized counter parts is pretty standard.
>>14318030
I can enjoy my 5.3 being a glorious v8 and not a 2.7L 4 cylinder cracker box, can you?
>>14318353
Colorado doesn't even come with the 5.3 anymore stupid.
>>14318225
>cheaper than premium
Nobody compares diesel to premium you mongoloid, you wouldn't be putting premium in the gas colorado unless you're a total idiot.
>>14318358
>comparing the f150 to the colorado and not the silverado
Are you sure I'm the stupid one :^)
>>14318364
>ctrl-f silverado
>only your post that you just made
Yes, I'm positive.
>>14318359
Ok keep thinking that fuckface.
>>14318369
>5.3
>in a colorado ever
Get fucked retard
>>14318381
>burning the premium jew
In the US (the only country that matters) premium is only for use in sports cars, anybody buying premium for any other vehicle is a cuck.
>>14318420
You stupid piece of shit, how did you not know the Colorado had the 5.3L? The next thing your dumb nigger ass will say is they never made a crew cab S10.
>>14317224
I'll never understand the obsession car fags who've never owned trucks have with hating on crew cabs. I've DD'd a regular cab Tacoma for 8 years and let me tell you it gets fucking old. With a crew cab duramax I was able to haul 5 people with their luggage, and a trailer with our race car, tools, parts, etc. You're never going to do that with a reg. cab.
>>14318425
This is false.
Premium fuel has additives that keep the gas from going bad when stored. If you live anywhere seasonal, and you store small engine powered machines you should be running premium. A representative for Stihl showed me a carb stored empty for 3 months versus one that was kept full with premium. The dry carb had several problems from sitting dry all that time, the other was completely fine.
>>14318056
>US fuel economy standards that say automakers have to have a fuel economy average of 54.5 MPG across their vehicle lineup by 2025.
>>14318484
Good luck on that one.
>>14316559
Ford 4.0 bad transmissions.....you are autistic
>>14318112
Gas 4cyl 6mt
>>14318707
BTW I'm faster to 30 than a 2012 z71
>>14318500
Sorry you or someone you know had bad luck. Show me a TSB to prove it was a widespread problem.
>>14318353
5mpg saved at 15MPG is a whole lot more fuel saved compared to going from 25-30 say. Thanks to the non linear scale of MPG you don't realise how the number you spew compares to actual economy.
Keep mentioning highway mileage like it matters at all
>>14319035
Axod a shit
>>14316517
easily the best truck out right now for the price.
But the best daily driver truck not considering price is pic related
>>14319209
>doesn't want a landbarge
posts a 40k-60k land barge
>>14319223
>implying it's my job to be OP's cuck
>>14319209
>truck
>not American
hahahahahahah
no.
>>14319249
>cummins diesel moved to asia
>buying over priced american garbage after 2006
LOL
>>14319263
>Cummins diesel moved to Asia.
They may have a plant there, but HQ is still Columbus Ind.
>>14319294
>missing the point this bad
>>14319308
>missing the point
You said Cummins moved to Asia, I said they did not. Now you are saying I missed the point. Eat shit.
>>14319389
....being this pants on head retarded.
>>14319209
>XD
dropped
>>14319395
You said some dumb shit, I called you on it. "Hurrr durrr, you missed the point, I was only pretending to be retarded".
Fuck you. You said some dumb shit and I called you on it. Deal with it.
>Colorado
>good
Pick one.
>>14316673
It adds like 2 mpg
It comes off
>>14319408
how old are you that you never learned to infer? Holy shit I can't believe I have to explain this garbage to you, holy shit.
>>14319263 is clearly saying the company now works with Asian truck builders. not PHYSICALLY went to Asia. You might be the dumbest person on /o/.
>>14316718
>being defeated by 8 screws
>>14317834
It adds like 1-2 mpg apparently
>>14319408
hahahahaah what a fucking absolute tard.
>>14318461
This. Even the jump seats on an access cab are god-awful compared to double cab. I went for a double not only to carry more people but also because I could store more things in a climate-controlled cab and save the bed for loads
>>14318359
You can compare diesel to what ever you want.
>>14318353
well, first of all I have a 3.5L and second, the 2.7L is a V6. but I wouldn't expect anyone who thinks there is anything 'glorious' about a 5.3L to know any better, I suppose.
i got into a canyon at the stock show
the interior is smaller than a mid-size sedan. exterior is nearly of a full size truck. pushing $35k with the 4cyl turbodiesel
it's like they WANT me to buy a fullsize truck
>>14316973
those are nice but every motherfucker around here has one. can't get any hipster cred.
>>14320161
>every motherfucker around here has one. can't get any hipster cred
While I can't honestly say I don't relate to this feeling, you gotta let it go when it comes to new vehicles. If a vehicle is good, it's good. Also, just remember that so many fucking people who buy any new vehicle will destroy it within a relatively short amount of time. Even classic cars that were best sellers at the time are now uncommon or rare. Taking it care of it so you have it in 30, 40+ years is how you get the best kind of hipster cred.
>>14319249
>Titan
>not American
Pick one, dumbass.
>>14323013
So according to your logic the Ford Focus is German?
>>14326393
I consider the focus German , yes.
However, the Titan is designed in America, built in America, and sold only to North Americans.
There is nothing unamerican about it.
