I finally stopped being a NEET and got a semi decent paying career. I was looking up semi-exotic cars and was surprised to see some of these are actually in my budget. Is owning something like this as an everyday car suicide? My city doesn't have a lot of inclines but the winters are a little harsh.
>>14140491
>Is owning something like this as an everyday car suicide?
Yes. Get the evora if you want a DD'able lotus.
>>14140535
Doesn't that thing got 4 seats?
>>14140491
>being this insecure as to buying a sports car for a DD instead of something reliable and comfortable and efficient.
Small mid engined two seaters are absolutely awful daily drivers. Terrible awful interior space and luggage space, truckfags and SUV moms will -constantly- overlook you, suspension makes every pothole shake your spine.
>>14140535
While we're on the topic I see the boxster S as another choice in every list of "affordable exotics". is this drivable, or a shit choice? I'm not trying too hard to pretend to be rich with middle class income I'm just curious. I thought these sort of cars retain their value for a long time but they seem to nosedive and I would like to take advantage.
>>14140547
the 2+2 does. The evora is also not as stiff, the seats are not as hard and the iterior isn't as spare.
Not OP, but are you guys aware some people DD motorcycles? There's far worse everyday vehicles than a 2-seater sports car.
I'm not saying an Elise would be a good DD, but there's no reason why it wouldn't work.
>>14140579
shit.
everyone will laugh at you
everyone knows a boxster is total shit
>>14140579
The Cayman is the superior cheap Porsche.
>>14140602
Maybe Los Angeles fag do, but that's a very small, isolated part of the world. Such a thing is impossible in most places, starting with those that get snow in the winter.
>>14140602
Most bikes are actually comfy as fuck I would DD one if there wasn't shit weather half the year.
>>14140616
It's a somewhat common thing in the UK.
The point is that if you don't need to carry much stuff and have a tolerance for a bumpy ride there's not really a problem.
Of course, it'd be easier to buy a cheap Honda for DD duties and an Elise for fun. Unless of course you need your car to be a status symbol.
>>14140579
>>14140613
Porsche is shit, especially the cayman. Fuckers can't even make an engine that doesn't strip itself. Especially the 04 - 08 models, which by the looks of things are in your budget. Doný get the cayman, repeat, don't get the cayman.
>>14140491
Yes. Don't try and DD a sports car. Get a sensible car for the day to day, and treat the sports car as a toy.
What's your budget op?
>>14140735
40k
>>14142394
Year range you are looking at? Strictly newish (within 7 years) or open for anything (early 90's japs, 60's muscle, prewar style, etc)?
>>14142394
I had 50k and bought a cts-v coupe. Way better of a daily driver. I wanted an exige s but after driving it I realized I couldn't live with it every day. I'd get one of I could have 2 cars. Next choice would've been a TT RS. Porsches in that price range weren't that great.
>>14142429
I saw some 2006 and 2007 exiges for under 40. I'm open to any model of any kind. Not gonna run out and buy it tomorrow, was just surprised this kind of car was even an option.
>>14142506
What specifically made you feel you couldn't live with it? anything to do with what other people said itt, suspension or snow?
>>14140491
OP, don't listen to the poor camry faggot.
Get a jap sportscar to dd.
There are cool ones now, and cool ones including a new dorito coming down the pipe.
It's amazing how feeble people are these days, we're on a "car enthusiast" board and people think that a modern street car is somehow too rough for a DD. Life must be really tough for you if the prospect of DDing an Exige seems daunting.
>>14140491
You can get a nice sneke for $40k.
Do it.
>>14142552
>has never driven an elise or exige
why don't you just shut the fuck up ?
>>14142561
I've driven both an Elise and a Tesla roadster. Never driven an Exige. They are both street cars, there is 0 reason why you couldn't DD one.
get a 996 turbo, preferably manual with a x50 option, and then thank me in 2 years once your car appreciates from 45k to 60k
>>14142568
Yeah and I have driven damn bugaddis m8. Fuck off srsly
>>14142529
The suspension is stiff, its loud, its tiny enough to make you fear for your life in bad traffic
Getting in and out is awkward due to the wide frame on the sides of the seat
No storage capacity
I only test drove it so I can't speak to this but I've heard they leak badly in the rain.
All that said I still really want one, it is an amazing car, but if I'm driving it every day I'd rather a really absurdly fast car that's also really comfortable to live with.
>>14142569
>14142569
>appreciates 15k in 2 years
>not /biz/
Dude gtfo
>>14142569
>996
>appreciates from 45k to 60k
kill yourself. Where are all these retards coming from?
>>14142561
>i need more than two seats because my wifes bull likes to drive
Just follow them to the motel in your camry, chuck.
>>14142561
I drove an exige s, it's honestly not as bad as my s2000 in terms of dd ability.
>>14142573
Do you live in Europe or something? They are not rare cars in the US.
>>14142587
wow m8. Just stop.
>>14142591
yeah yurocars are very rare in yurop. Idiot.
>>14142606
Where in the world would someone live where the idea of someone driving a $25k car is unbelievable. Is that anon from Somalia perhaps?
I bet 100 dollars the cucklord saying you can DD an elise is a brz fangirl/owner
>>14142613
It's not unbelievable. The unbelievable thing is someone recommending them as DD.
>>14142580
http://gocar.be/en/europe/autovlan/second-hand-car-used/Porsche/911/911-996-Turbo-211105679
>the 996 turbo is already 50-70k Euros in Germany
>>14142561
dude, you are quite literally, and I mean it, literally spamming a meme
its not the car to pick when sitting in traffic while the cali sun tries to roast you but its not as bad as the internet has had you believe for so many years
>>14142626
Yeah and now look at the prices they were 5 years ago but go on 996 fanbois and drivers are usually retards anyway
>>14142621
What was your experience with the car that led you to think they aren't a fine DD? What are features you "need" on a daily driver?
>>14142596
it is, the windnoise is way less and because of the weight, the lack of torque low down isn't as apparent.
>be op
>be from /g/
>inadvertently started an /o/ war
>everyone keeps saying DD
>be linuxfag
>keep thinking cars have hard drives in them
>>14142628
It's like DD a stanced car. IS THAT FUN ??? but hey you don't need to leave the house and drive to work everyday so who cares lol
>>14142654
1) its not
2) it wholly depends on where you live if its DDable
3) I have sat in cars designed to be DDed that were more uncomfortable
Srs tho this meme needs to stop already, I bet you are the kind of guy that spergs out when told newer McLaren cars have incredibly comfortable rides
>>14142643
I had back pain after driving an mk1 for 20 minutes. You also feel every single bump.
>>14142647
>tfw no hard drive ECU to store over 1 terabyte of engine settings
>>14142665
It is. Your miata doesn't compare to an elise m8
>>14142636
prices went as low as 40k USD in the u.s and 30k euros in Germany/UK. Since then, they have gone up to 45k in the US and 60-80k euros in Germany and 50-60k GBP in the UK.
>>14142654
>DDing a stock, designed to handle well car is like DDing a modified car made to handle poorly
Have you guys really never driven anything but econo shitboxes, or are you just trying to justify your "practical" car to yourself? I understand if you have multiple kids or some kind of disability an Elise may not work, but other than that there is 0 reason not to, the Elise is more manageable on the road than any car I've DD'd over my 13 years of driving including living on a steep street in SF and commuting 40 miles a day.
>>14142678
>miata
nice backblast :^)
>>14142667
But isn't that the one from 2000? how can it be the suspension hasn't changed after it. Or what am I missing?
>>14142682
yeah you have never driven one.
>>14142682
Don't bother lol, I bet he also thinks the e92 is the epitome of handling because jeremy clarkson said so jokingly once
Guys, nobody is saying you CAN'T DD an elise/exige, of course you can. The problem is when it's raining out, or you're stuck in traffic, or there's snow on the road, or you're stuck behind a granny doing 40 in a 55.
Times like this you're not going to be enjoying the fact that you're in a lightweight, super well balanced, high performance sports car.
You're going to be wishing you picked something different.
Also, something nobody else here mentioned: attention. Unless you have some serious self-esteem issues and having everyone looking at you will make you feel better; an elise/exige is not fun to daily drive.
My car already gets a lot of attention and it is way more boring than an elise. It gets kind of old when people are constantly staring you down and at stoplights you have people rolling down their windows to ask: "WHAT IS THAT?" "HOW FAST DOES IT GO?" "IS THAT THE ONE WITH THE CORVETTE MOTOR?"
Can't even imagine what an elise would get.
check if used ATS-V are in your price range
if not then CTS-V are inexpensive for your budget, plenty of room to mod
C6 (maybe z06)
cobra
porsche carrerra 996
used maseratis
used AMG
used M series
nothing the japanese can offer in your price range
also consider used jaguars
90's ferarri
salvage title bentley (36k if you can find one)
90's astons
don't let anyone tell you the reliability on these are horrendous, the horror stories you hear are because people don't want to shell out the money to make the regular maintenance on their car because they could afford the down payment but could only afford maintenance for a ford taurus
i hope you meant 40k was your disposable income and not your yearly
>>14142700
No one says it optimal, just that its not as bad as some people insist
And I'd sooner DD a newer elise than something like a base skoda rapid
As for attention who gives a shit
>>14142730
t. shitbox driver
>>14142737
nice projection :^)
>>14142721
(alternatives to buying a lotus roadster)
>>14142690
>>14142700
see
>>14142552
>>14142721
348, 355, Testarossa/512TR all require engine out services every 3 years, cost ranging from 7-12k. Quattroporte/138/GranTurismo clutches last at most 20k miles and are 6-8k to replace. The Bentley and Aston Martin suggestions are even more ridiculous. The only thing remotely manageable for someone looking at cars in the price range of an Elise are the C6s and Cadillacs
>>14142730
>And I'd sooner DD a newer elise than something like a base skoda rapid
Nobody is comparing that, of course an elise would be better to DD than an old shitbox. Comparing it with other $40k cars is a different story when there is a ton of really nice shit in that price range.
>As for attention who gives a shit
Not a big deal when you have a flashy car you mostly drive for enjoyment.
Seriously though, if you drive something that flashy every day to do mundane tasks it gets kind of tiring sticking out so much.
>>14142587
/r/ing of said s2000 pls debating on one.
>>14142552
>>14142747
>DDing an Exige seems daunting.
It doesn't seem daunting, but if I've got that much money to spend on a single car there are way better alternatives.
>>14142721
Most of these are faster and almost as good at handling as an elise while also being really nice DDs.
>>14142747
view
"people don't want to shell out the money for the maintenance"
if 40k is his disposable income as of current
every three years taking out 7k assuming he has even at least half of that disposable income yearly would be worthwhile if he wanted a car like that
but this is /o/, so i digress
>>14142751
>Comparing it with other $40k cars is a different story when there is a ton of really nice shit in that price range.
Well duh, I wasn't trying to imply it will be better than a 5er as a DD, but that its still literally better than many a shitboxes unless you have massive snow/shit roads/horrible traffic
As for attention, again, who gives a shit, just get dark window tints and ignore people, tell anyone that tries to stop you when parked that you are in a hurry, politely not in a sperg way
>>14140491
Winter isn't a problem unless you are a complete retard at driving. I drive an RX8, it is rear wheel, and if there is so much as a sprinkle on the ground, I spin/drift/slide everywhere. But because I'm not a retard, I control my slides, predict them, and for the most part avoid them unless I want to have fun. If you're not racing, drive slow and you won't have any problems.
>>14142721
>let me suggest a bunch of garbage
>japs have nothing to offer
Kill yourself, George.
>>14142761
I've driven alot of cars, and my s2000 is among my favorite of said cars, it's cheap to maintain, decent on gas despite what the official MPG would have you believe, it feels like a much more expensive car than it is, and not like "I bought a 5000$ bmw" feel, this genuinely feels like you're sitting in a 40,000$ car.
If you like low end torque and stop light racing is all that matters to you, get something else, if you like going to track days, or spirited canyon drives then this car is for you, and I promise you it won't let you down.
Why not buy an M3? More practical than a 2 seater and still fun to drive.
>>14142786
>winter isn't a problem
>wants to drive his sportscar in snow, slush&salt
and that's exactly why you drive a shitbox dorito
>>14142789
well tell me a "semi exotic" alternative to a lotus in his price range and PLEASE for the love of god no miata, 86, or MR2
>inb4 supra
only thing i can think of is r35 and that's not in this guys price range
>>14142761
>>14142786
Could just tell him to get good winter tires really
>>14142806
My Z pisses in your FRS's intake, fuck off queer.
Go ahead and benchrace. I've owned more vehicles than you've seen years, and I was thoroughly underwhelmed by the FRS. The interior is 90s KIA tier too.
They are what got me interested in sports coupes again, but they are a letdown in reality. And I am a Toyota fanboi. The 370z blew the FRS away in the feels dept, that's why I bought one instead.
The 370z has Jap class with muscle acceleration, and the handling characteristics you'd expect from a traditional two seat rwd coupe making 330+hp at the crank.
You fell for the meme, while people who actually like cars and driving chose any number of quicker sharp handling cars in the price range.
>>14142792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_3oBEd5-_s
>implying your barbie shitbox doesn't get destroyed by big boy cars
>>14142823
never read it before so new pasta feel
>>14142823
>>14142842
i too have the new pasta feel
>>14142831
I don't really like the S2000, but he literally said stoplight racing isn't what it does well.
>>14142831
>s2000 cool-bro has qtpie in the car with him
>got consolation blowjob
>996 sperg has to put the dashcam on the dash so his loneliness isn't revealed to the world
>goes home and fails to get it up for a wank
That's what you get for buying a 996 I guess
OP here, I'll try to summarise what I got out of this thread.
I could buy a lotus if I wanted but it would stupid considering there are much better alternatives, but fuck lotus, porsche, caymans, boxsters, honda, japan, america, europe, everything, fuck the S2000, fuck san francisco, and just get a cheap $500 car but don't drive to work or anywhere and just go offroading on snow and inclines as soccer moms and old people flip you off from the highway. Sound about right?
hey >>14140579,
>>14140609
>>14140684
ignore these haters, but >>14140613 is right. I have a boxster and I like it, but its shit as a DD. Get a cheap sedan if you want a DD, get a boxster if you like sporty manual convertibles. I have news for you though, girls wont like you just because of the car you drive. You would be better off taking the money you are gonna spend on maintenance and putting it in a roth IRA. If you want a fun beater to learn about cars and get into cars with ask /o/, they will sell you a miata.
best of luck man, let us know more about your intentions with buying the car.
>>14142552
its just a hassle man, I DD'd the boxster with no problems for 4 months, but you just have to plan for shit like not having extra seats, moving ANYTHING, going to the shooting range (mud roads). I was used to a taurus that is a great workhorse and the boxster is just not
>>14144486
get a shitbox and a track car, like an ariel atom, caterham or an FF 818
>>14142579
>>14142580
hey >>14144558 here, I know its fucking retarded, btu they 996's are poised to appreciate in value soon. (think like 5k, not 15) Im not sure they will ever be considered classics, but Porsches hockey stick up in value after like 20 years in America. (only 911's, everything else doesn't appreciate)
>>14140491
>I finally stopped being a NEET and got a semi decent paying career.
Don't spend your entirely yearly salary (before taxes) as your budget for a car that does jack shit for you. I know your living expenses are low living in the basement but you need to put some money away for when you finally grow up.
>>14140547
>Doesn't that thing got
>>14140577
Who cares
>>14144558
>I have a boxster and I like it, but its shit as a DD.
Why do you say that? I completely disagree.
I have a 981 Boxster which I drive every day because I have no other cars and I've never had any problems. It's comfortable, hard to stall so it's not a pain to drive even in rush hour, and the front and rear trunk spaces combined is more than people give the car credit for.
>>14140602
Most motorcycles are easier to dd than an Elise
Have you ever driven any kind of lotus in real life, or are you speculating?
>>14144486
First time on /o?
Wrx, mustang gt, m3 would be the sort of sporty performance'ish cars I'd consider for daily driving. A track focused exotic with little real utility takes dedication or denial.
>>14142700
>or you're stuck in traffic
What is this meme? Driving a stick in traffic is not bad.
>or you're stuck behind a granny doing 40 in a 55
Why would that take away from you enjoying your car? It's not like just because you have a sports car you speed from the moment you get behind the wheel. A slow drive is enjoyable.
>Times like this you're not going to be enjoying the fact that you're in a lightweight, super well balanced, high performance sports car.
You sound weird and that is really just some shit opinion there, mostly because you are telling other people they will not enjoy something because you don't enjoy it. I doubt you've ever really had the experience anyway.
>You're going to be wishing you picked something different.
No. Not really at all. In all those situations a sports car will be just fine and enjoyable.
>It gets kind of old when people are constantly staring you down and at stoplights you have people rolling down their windows to ask...
You know you can just ignore them and drive your car? I do it all the time, mind yourself and stop at other people, that would basically be inviting someone to converse with you yet you complain about it.
If you have the money OP, buy it. Enjoy it. Make sure it suits your lifestyle. If you aren't moving a ton of shit all the time, don't mind driving yourself and one other person around then fine. Actually in the passenger seat I've had two girls just make do plenty of times, they don't mind.
>>14142751
>Seriously though, if you drive something that flashy every day to do mundane tasks it gets kind of tiring sticking out so much.
Why? Are you so insecure you can't just go about your day with a flashy car like normal? It would be normal and is for many people.
>>14145091
>>14145106
I don't give a fuck about other people. What I meant by "suicide" was videos I've seen of ferrari and lambo owners carrying around wooden planks because the incline of a parking garage was too steep and they can't get out, or they can't even go over speed bumps at all, or if there was something weird about these that would make driving in snow 100% impossible.
It's obviously not going to be different from another RWD car which I have driven in extreme ice and snow. I see a lot of people going the posted max speed on snowy and rainy days, that's obviously fucking dumb no matter what you have. I don't need to tow, or move shit, or ever carry more than one other person ever. Again not gonna go out and buy it tomorrow but based on what I read outside of the money it is doable to have a semi-exotic as an everyday car.
>>14145151
an elise is not any lower than your average mustang, 350z or camaro dummy
also learn to take speedbumps sideways
>>14145157
that was exactly why I thought it was doable as a DD car. we're going in circles.
>special snowflake general
