Don't know much about front engine porches however i think this one was supposed to have an Audi V10 but for whatever reason it never got it.
I like it though
>still would rather have a 964
>>14077399
its ugly.
>>14077399
Not a real Porsche
>>14077505
Why not?
>>14077519
>fuck huge
>engine in the wrong place
>V8, not boxer 8
>pigfat
>grand tourer
It's not a real Porsche
>>14077399
I like them... I believe it was considered to be the most technologically advanced engine in a street car when released. Supercar level of performance in the 80's.
They can still be found on the cheap now too... because not 911. I would definitely add one to my garage if I had the space.
Also a big fan of the 944/924/951
>>14077533
>implying Porsches have flat 8s
>>14077581
>implying they shouldn't have had them
>>14077581
There is a Porsche with a flat-8. The Porsche 908.
>>14077399
Sure.
But whatever your budget is to buy one in decent condition, make sure you have at least that same amount to fix stupid bullshit that breaks.
>>14077593
...they shouldn't. It takes up more space than the turbos that do the job better
>>14077614
but but but but center of gravity
but but but but heat retention
>>14077614
>Implying you couldn't just tuck the turbos in the gap like Audi did on the RS V8s
>>14077596
Forgot pic.
>>14077439
>picking a 964 over a 928
4chan is an 18+ website kiddo
>He wants to buy a Porsche!!
Let me educate you son. There are 2 types of Porsche.
There's the 918 spyder, the 911 turbo (ect) and these are top tier race cars for the road. You can find almost no fault with these.
Then there's the mid and low range ones. Utter fucking overpriced crap bought by idiots who know nothing about cars and think that the badge makes them rich for owning a 40k boxter.
The reward for choosing the 2nd kind of Porsche includes but is not limited to
>Major recalls (you're lucky if you get recall before you die because your seatbelt breaks off during a crash and you break your spine, then burn alive)
>Constant maintenance that will break the bank
>Some cunt in a r34 GTR is going to rape your ass round corners and in the straights anyway
This advice goes for everyone considering the purchase of a new Porsche.
>Only ever buy their top tier models, it's where all the RND and love goes. The rest are ticking time bombs.
>If you can't afford their best, get another brand. Anything you like, just do not make the mistake of buying a boxter.
>>14078351
Are all 911 variants on the former side? Like bare bones base?
Not OP, just curious.
>>14077399
I really like them especially their looks and supposedly they are one of the comfiest cars from their era and still one of the best handling cars in existence. To add to this shitloads of 924s, 928s and 944s have appeared on my local graigslist equivalent at prices I could easily afford. I'm really tempted to buy one but everywhere I read about them it is pretty much said that they are basically the biggest money pit cars... ...in the world.
Are they really that bad/unreliable? What are the biggest problem areas in them and is there a smart way to go around fixing them for good? What is the most reliable model between 924, 928 and 944?
>>14077399
I want one so fucking badly.
I can afford it too, I'm just waiting for the exact perfect vehicle.
>>14077399
I wish they ran.
Not a real porsche.
Same with a 944, boxster etc,
poormans porsche
>>14077399
Great car...
>>14078381
He's an idiot, ignore him
>>14079167
928 was supposed to replace the 911
I want 911 kiddies to leave
>>14077399
This and the 944 are the best Porsches ever made.
>>14077399
I've got an '81. It's phenomenally solid. Built like a tank. The sound from the V8 is intoxicating, but it's not terribly fast by today's standards. It's 34 years but still looks modern. I've learned a shit ton about wrenching on it because the parts prices are fucking retarded and I frankly can't afford to have someone else fix things. The online support community is pretty much a cult and there's a huge knowledge base w sites like Rennlist that loves these cars. Buy the best example you can afford. If you buy a basket case you'll be $10k away from a $5K car.
Listen. The 911 wasn't that great of a car.
The 928 out performed all 911s of its time except the turbos. So it is a good car.
The 968 rapes 911s in the same way so buy one.
>>14080550
>968 rapes 911s
Here's your (you)
>>14080770
The 968 could've raped the 911 but Porsche have a tendency to cripple their entry models in an act of 911 protectionism.
>>14080772
But the point is it didn't
>>14080775
It did though. You claim my post is bait but it isn't.
Even the 928 was designed to be Porsches main feature car.
>>14080783
But it didn't, it doesn't best it in acceleration or handling, its not faster than the 911 on the track either, so no, the 968 does not rape a 911, and yes you're post was bait you fucking faget
>>14080799
Prove your points. I sense a hint of "because I think it it's true" bias.
>>14077533
>it's not a glorified beetle
>>14079678
>not the 968
Please
>>14080808
If anyone has a because I think it's true bias, its you. The 968 had a 3.0 L I4 that was the last 928 engine cut in half, and made around 250 hp non-turbo, compared to the 911s that were made at the same time that had 300, it went 0-60 a full second slower, 1/4 a half second slower, and was overall slower than the 993 around the track, face it the 968 GETS raped by the 911
>>14077399
I know a guy who owns one, he says its almost more fun to drive than an e30 m3
>>14077399
>>14077505
ahh the v8 one that got hit with the ugly stick.
its a still real porsche.
the 924/944 wasnt. was a audi/vw cast off and still regarded as the worst ever porsche
there are still very few cars that will still be fast as the 928. if you are looking for a 928 one now, dont buy any that have been sitting. because the rubber seals that degrade and its expensive to remedy and also they do have electrical problems because its a old porsche.
they are still using a derrivitive of the 928 v8 in the porsche cayenne 4wd. the only main difference between porsche and the other german car makers is porsche has longer service intervals
>>14080837
the 968 weas actually a 924/944 with all the problems fixed.
when the 928 ruled the autobahns there was only one other car that could catch it the mercedes benz 560 SEL and to find one now its next to impossible.
>>14080772
It's a recurring theme with Porsche. The Boxster and Cayman easily had the potential to be much faster than the 911, but they were crippled with pitiful engines
>>14080961
Are you fucking retarded? The Caymen S engine is fucking stout, sure it isn't as fast as the 911, because the 911 is Porsches crown jewel until the 918 came out, all this bitching about fucking hierarchy, Jesus fucking Christ just deal with it
>>14081000
cayman is boxter with roof. porsche on purpose made the boxter/cayman slower because they didnt want their lower spec model owning the flag ship 911.
plus boxter lol couldnt afford a 911.
>>14077505
>>14077533
>>14079167
What is a "real" Porche then? I mean many people say watercooled 911s aren't real Porsches either which would mean there hasn't been a "real" Porsche since 1998.
>>14081139
A real Porsche is the original formula
>rear engined
>boxer configuration
That's literally it, it doesn't matter if it has AWD so long as its rear-biased, or if its a water cooled engine as opposed to one with a doghouse cooler and fan shroud, as long as the engine is in the right place and its a boxer engine, its a true Porsche
>>14081230
>pic related is not a 'real porsche'
i want pseudo-porschefags to leave
>>14081263
It had a flat-12 engine.
>>14081263
Your autism is showing, I'm not talking about racing Porsches, I'm talking about production Porsche's
>>14081275
>flat-12 ≠boxer
the 917 had a V12 type crankshaft
>>14081263
is that a spare tire in the back?
wut?
>>14081067
>911
Couldn't afford a 918
>>14081312
it was part of the rules
>>14081000
And the S is a joke compared to the GT4 with a Carrera S engine
Even first gen Boxster swapped with 911 engines were fast compared to other cars from the era
>>14081230
It's just autism
If you want to go my my definition a real Porsche is a sports car and not some cross over bullshit
>>14081263
>the 917/30 had 2 hp/kg
wonder what one of those could do with a bit of modern tech
did i hear a sub-6 min ringtime?
>>14081334
but why? why the fuck would you put a spare tyre on a le mans machine?
>>14080550
>The 928 out performed all 911s of its time except the turbos
nope
>>14081992
They're on par there and the 928 kept pulling away from the 911 in the later years.
Thanks for proving my point
>>14077399
it's visually interesting
it's fun to drive
it's a real porsche
but most importantly it pisses off a bunch of autistic wankers
>>14081334
and you had to have a certain luggage capacity storage, too.
You can get a decent 928 for 10k.
A good 928 costs as much as a slightly used cayman, and is probably as fast.
>>14077505
>>14077533
>>14079167
You guys can't be serious. The 928 was the first car completely designed and built by Porsche. The 356 and earlier 911s were basically suped up Beetles. So you by your definition a real Porsche actually isn't a pure Porsche. Get real faggots.
>>14081230
Original formula is essentially a beetle, and the classic 911s want nothing more than to kill you, get rekt.
>>14084629
You're this reason this board is trash.
>>14084629
And who designed the Beetle? Dr. Ferdinand Porsche on commission from ol Addy himself, therefore the Beetle's design is the original true Porsche design, YOU GET REKT FAGET
>>14077399
Definitely my favorite Porsche. The Panamera is not a true successor.
>>14077399
Looks like a twingo fucked an fc rx7
>>14085356
And that's a bad thing?
>>14085364
Not one bit.
>>14077533
It was the first fully bespoke Porsche, you ignorant, milquetoast piece of human garbage.
>>14078351
Do you actually believe you know what you're talking about?
>>14085911
>911
>911 confirmed for only good porsche
>>14077399
Its one of my favorite models
>>14081682
because you might get a puncture mid tour
>>14077533
By that pants-on-head retarded logic, A Ferrari is only a real Ferrari if it has 12 cylinders and a gated shifter.
>>14081276
>>14077533
>3200 lbs
>pigfat
I fucking hate /o/ so much.
>>14088521
Poor example. Ferrari is equally well-known for their flatplane V8 since it's so unique.
>>14089106
/o/ hates you too, so fuck off. Good day.
>>14089119
I don't hate him you faggot, maybe you fuck off to somewhere where people speak for each other because their beliefs are replicated. Maybe Reddit would be more your speed?
>>14089114
Implying the M28 wasn't equally unique and significantly stronger than a Ferrari 8 from that era. Fucking Reynolds 390 is so much stronger than what the Italians were casting their blocks out of. It didn't even need cylinder liners.
And are you trying to be funny? Ferrari used to refuse to put its badge on some of their sub 12 cylinder cars.
>>14080770
3.0 968: 240 hp
3.2 911: 230 hp
Also the 968 did indeed handle better than torsion bar era 911's.
>>14080847
The 924 was a joint Audi-Porsche-VW project, the 944 was purely a Porsche project.
>>14089678
>3.2 911
If you compare the years the 968 was out which was 94-97 against the 993 which was out in the same years you are completely wrong, from Wikipedia:
>More specifically, the 993 engine is the final factory refinement of the Porsche-designated "M64" boxer engine. The standard,naturally aspiratedM64/05(06) engine at 3.6 liters capacity is a refined version of the M64/01 installed in the 964 Carrera. The M64/05(06) made 272hp (DIN)through model year 1995.
And that's the least powerful engine they had and it displaced 3.6L you stupid fuck
>>14090366
Don't even try to fuck with me about Porsches. I just got done resealing a customers 3.6. Did you really miss the fact that I was choosing to compare the 968 (which has is roots in the 70's) to the '84 - '89 Carrera (the last "classic" 911 according to Porsche/VW groupies) - The 964 and 993 are full of tricks learned from the development of the 959 - and It's not a proper comparison.
If your method of projecting information is to copy and paste from Wikipedia, please drink a quart of scalding hot VX.
>>14081230
Cults exist because people are able to delude themselves to this extent.
I'd love to see a Stuttgart engineer tear this guy a new asshole.
>>14078351
>im a fag and dont know shit, the post
go fuck yourself m8, the boxster is the best porsche for the money. 911's can be had for not too much used (if you are middle class) and 944's are fun project cars. a 911 turbo is a fun car but not a top tier racer
>>14077505
it was the first Porsche wholly designed by Porsche.. or more to the point, it was the first Porsche that wasn't a volkswagon.
>>14093151
How can you believe that? The 928, 924, 944 are primarily VW projects with a smaller amount of porsche
Pic related: dont know why they would put a golf body on a 928 chassis just to make it handle worse.
