What car has the most striking visual appearance for the price? I think a lot of people would think the Elise is some kind of supercar when it's just an overpriced Miata.
>>14075149
>when it's just an overpriced Miata.
except its an overpriced mr2 spuder
it is a good tuner car but its not like a miata at all.
>>14075154
>>14075157
My car ignorance is showing I guess.
What makes it more similar to a Spyder than a Miata then?
for some reason people think newer eclipse coupes are hot shit (?)
Caddy Slabs are cheaper
>>14075170
Toyota engine/tranny, same concept of MR
But you had the right metaphor
>>14075176
ok
i really only liked the 2nd gens
>>14075170
Same platform, same drivetrain, and same suspension geometry. The Elise is to the MR-S as the MSM is to the NA6 Miata.
>>14075211
platform? no
the elise was its own thing. remember it was glued together.
>>14075216
Platform, not chassis.
>>14075170
>My car ignorance is showing I guess.
yes, we realized that after reading the OP
>>14075149
Mr2 spyder for sure. Clean it up and debadge it and plebs think it's a Porsche for $5000
>>14075149
Kit cars will win this contest all day long. You can buy a running Bradley GT or Sterling/Nova/Sebring or MGTD lookalike for $2,000. You can build a Lotus Seven clone for under $5,000. Functional GT40 and AC Cobra clones typically fetch higher prices, but you can still get one for the fraction of the price of an Elise.
>>14075149
4C.
>60k
>lightweight sports car
>doesn't need a fuckton of HP/TQ because said lightweight
>>14075176
I always liked the look, idk why.
>>14075272
>>14075255
You guys really think a Spyder would garner more attention in a parking lot than an Elise? Maybe with enthusiasts? I think a normie would appreciate an Elise more.
>>14075335
Neither car is actually that impressive in person. The Elise is a lot like the NSX in the sense that the first reaction anyone has on seeing it in person for the first time is "wow, it's a lot smaller than I had expected." If you want people to come up to you and ask about your car, get an MGTD kit car.
>>14075149
The Solstice is like 10-15k now.
>>14075645
It also looks like shit and the base models are ridiculously slow and everyone knows it.
>>14075149
You really told Lotus.
>>14075670
I like how it looks.
>>14075645
It looks like literal dog shit
>>14075233
you must have the loosest definition of platform
the elise only gets its drivetrain from toyota
everything else is lotus
>>14075670
0-60 in 7 seconds more boring than ridiculously slow, esp for a roadster.
>>14075335
Probably but you won't get an Elise for <$5k
>>14075335
some guy on Facebook posted an mr2 spyder with custom gull wing doors. there were dozens of likes, and multiple women sperging over his car and asking how he could afford it and the like. I didn't say anything, but I did have a kek over the normies drooling at an $8000 car
>>14075645
I saw one on a lot by me for $10k. It doesn't look bad, but I think the most people would think of it is "wow what a weird bulbous sporty womanly thing"
AD Tramontana without question. Yes it's hugely expensive, but try finding something as striking as this that's actually a production car and not a prototype. And it's not an ariel atom style track racer made by a couple guys on weekends, it has a massive engine, tons of gadgets, and weighs as much as a planet.
>>14075773
>caring what other people think of you
wew
>>14075772
>mr2 spyder
>gull wing
huh
>>14075872
Sorry, meant butterfly doors
>>14075720
Base model Solstice is consistently found to be slower than an NC Miata:
http://www.edmunds.com/mazda/mx-5-miata/2006/comparison-test.html
>Miata 7.5s
>Solstice 7.7s
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2006-pontiac-solstice-page-2
>Miata 7.2s
>Solstice 7.5s
>>14075895
It weighs 500 lbs more. Surprisingly, it's slower. Good thing this is a thread about looks and not speed.
Miata= bar of soap
>>14075312
>automatic only
>>14075889
>This piece of shit: >>14075645
>Not a bar of soap
Kill yourself.
>>14075945
I'm sorry, but the one thing against the miata has always been its look.
>>14076024
>the only thing againts the miata is an objective opinion not relevant at all
>>14075670
The hard tops look fucking pimp but if not that, then the Saturn Sky is the way to go.
>>14076030
Welcome to the looks thread. Cry about it.
>>14076099
Wrong gen if you want to compare the two.
>>14075312
well yeah everyone likes the eclipse, i think it looks good, it just.....isn't actually good
>>14075312
/thread
>>14075312
>>14075157
>>14075149
Need more fender air scoops in my life, this is my car fetish
>>14075149
>What is bosozoku?
>>14076024
This is an acceptable opinion, but the Solstice looks every bit as bad. The only people who would disagree are the people who are desperately trying to find a reason to dislike the Miata despite the fact that it is objectively the superior car.
>>14076030
Subjective, faggot.
>>14075149
Have you ever driven an elise?
>>14075670
I like it, as do some other people I know. I would only own the Redline/GXP though. If I want to go not terribly fast in a convertible I'll just Miata.
>>14077191
no it doesn't. the miata has a deliberate and quite artlessly contrived girliness to it that the solstice doesn't have and what many people find quite off putting
>>14076404
Looks like literal pig shit piled up
>>14078841
That's just like your opinion man
>>14075312
>for the price
>60k
Too much.
Used Boxster has my vote. Elise would probably be second.
The last series of Toyota celicas.
Can be had for about $3k. Pic is obviously with some exterior mods but even a stock model is pretty neat looking, design was definitely ahead of its time.
>Ariel atom
>looks like an F1 car (to normies) for $48k
>2.1 seconds 0-60 mph to destroy stoplight racers
>>14079566
Forgot pic
>>14079107
This actually looks nice. How modifiable are they?
>>14081615
Not modifiable enough to forget that they're a pigfat front wheel drive shit hunk that ruined the Celica name.
>>14081690
7th gen celica is like 2500lbs and still has back seats, this is miata weight, why call it pigfat when it's anything but?
>>14075149
>overpriced Miata
>making statements about cars you've never driven and know nothing about as if they were fact.
>>14075211
>same platform, same drivetrain, and same suspension geometry
All of that is at least half incorrect.
>same platform
Platform was bespoke (I think you meant layout). An example of a car that shares the Elise platform would be the Hennessey Venom GT or Tesla Roadster.
>same drivetrain
The Series 2 111s did share the drivetrain of the MR-2 Spyder, but only in Europe.
>same suspension geometry
In terms of suspension we're talking MacPhersons on the MR-S vs. Double wishbones on the Elise so it's kind of irrelevant either way.
>>14081915
wasn't the 1ZZ in the elise supercharged anyway?
>>14081615
>This actually looks nice.
Are you Mexican?
>>14081957
I believe that a kit w/ warranty was offered as a factory option, but to my knowledge standard equipment was the plain jane 136-138hp 1ZZ-FE that we got in the MR-S here in the states. It was supposedly done to replace the non-US compliant K-series Rover engine used in the Series 1. That always struck me as strange because the Federal Elise never came with anything but the 2ZZ-GE. Only thing I can think is that Lotus had originally planned to offer the car in the US in two flavors one with the 1ZZ and the other with the 2ZZ, but the launch got mired in NHTSA fuckery and we just ended up with the 2ZZ.
>>14082035
How do you know all this? Are you pasting it from somewhere? What do you do for a living? How do I get on this level of knowledge?
Tiburons maybe? They can be found for a few grand and look fast, even if they're just FF econoboxes. Very pretty FF econoboxes, but still FF econoboxes.
>>14081957
The 2zz was supercharged in some models. Not the 1zz
>>14081915
>An example of a car that shares the Elise platform would be the Hennessey Venom GT or Tesla Roadster.
Tesla Roadster shares the same platform. Venom GT shares a chassis, but it's been so heavily modified it's a bit of a "stretch" to call it the same platform.
>>14079107
these look interesting enough, and for some reason i've noticed that every one of these i've seen in my city are missing their gas cap.
In my opinion, an AMC Javelin. They're still somewhat affordable compared to other big block, 4 speed manual muscle cars and have a really unique styling.
I love my car...but a lot of non-car people think this is a $100,000 vehicle!!!
>>14083514
kek
/thread
>>14075772
Cool how the doors could be opened Gullwing style on a convertible
If you can find one in decent shape it's a sight to see. I'm also very partial to old (70s-80s) Mercedes SLs.
>>14083514
wow anon thats a real head turner!
>>14083555
I was just talking with my dad about these the other day. Normally I don't like the way those three door hatchbacks look but the Veloster is pretty god damn sleek.
>>14075811
spaceship/10
>>14083881
Too bad it doesn't perform the way it looks like it should.
>>14083967
Explain? Currently looking into it and some differing opinions would be nice.
>>14083514
Even normies know Pontiac/Saturn is shit as they went the way of the shitty car dodo.
>>14083988
It's being advertised as a hot hatch, whereas in reality it's just an econobox with a bodykit.
It's a decent little day-to-day car, but don't expect it to drive as fun as it looks.
>>14084006
What would be similar styling / interior quality but more fun?
>>14084022
I would take a genesis coupe 3.8 over a new veloster any day. You can find a r spec 6 speed with upgraded brakes and suspension for the low 20s.
>>14084022
Everyone's gonna tell you Fiesta ST.
Or do what >>14084044 said, 3.8l V6, RWD and a chassis that's basically set up for drifting makes for a lot of fun.
>>14083555
>anyone being impressed by a hyundai
i think not /threadfag
>>14083988
ive heard they're outrageously slow. even an FRS would be a much better buy. if you can swing it, a GTI would be 10x better
>>14083690
Thank you anon!!!...have another!!!
>>14084000
1) not true...these platforms were the direction GM was attempting to go before general failure.
2) not shit...I am pretty sure the ecotech 4 cylinders are regarded as solid durability and reliability.
3) not understanding...the point of this thread was aesthetics to price comparison...and the Saturn most definitely fits in that category.
But here...have a minion cookie!!!
My E46 coupe gets a lot of attention and they've come down in price quite a bit
>>14084127
Attention from mechanics doesn't count
>>14084148
>hurr durr bmw a shit btw I drive a camry
You seriously have no idea how easy these cars are to work on and how cheap parts are.
>>14084148
>>14083988
My mom has a Veloster Turbo and I have a 3.8 GenCoupe. I've driven her VT and it's okay.
You don't feel the turbo at all. Like everyone else said, it's an econo car. You might squeeze a bit of fun if you put some money into it but stock, it's not much to talk about
>>14075697
>>14078841
Are you a farmer or something? You must look at a lot of shit to know shit.
>>14083023
>How do you know all this?
I've been obsessed with cars since age 2. I've also owned both cars at one time or another and I always research cars I actually own as in-depth as a I can.
>pasting
Nope. Most of it comes from pulling back stuff from memory that I've read online either in forums from those more knowledgable than myself or different wikis.
>what do you do for a living
Nothing related to cars. I actually work in an optical shop
>How do I get on this level of knowledge?
It's all about knowing where to find reliable information and then mentally retaining and recalling that knowledge once you've found it. Most things that we consider to be knowledge are told to us rather than observed first-hand so how "knowledgable" you are often comes down to 2 factors: how well you retain information and how well you can recognize and separate reliable information from unreliable information. Hope that makes sense.
>>14083023
same way people know sports trivia etc
>>14083072
I always took cars sharing a platform to mean cars that share any major components or design and engineering philosophies. In the case of the Hennessey Venom GT it is similar enough to the Elise/Exige on which it is based that legally they can be registered as Exiges. If anything I'd say your argument is backwards. The Elise shares a lot more with the Hennessey Venom GT than the Roadster.
>>14084044
I really like the Genesis from what I've seen. Is it expensive to maintain?
