do u think their will ever be a race class were their is literally no ceiling on the engineering the company can put into their car. meaning like no limit of horse power or use of technology everything is allowed, as long as the vehicle has a roll cage.
does this already exist?
something like a 24 hour of le mans but without limits on the cars.
?
It will be won by who spend more, no point in doing that.
>>14061622
I read an article about how cool it would be to have a completely unlimited class where there were no rules on what you could do to your car.
It went to say how, in a race like that, the track would have to 'make the rules', ie, have parts of the track be upside down, make ridiculous turns where you'd have to slow down or your driver would pass out, a washboard section, etc etc.
>>14061641
arabs would go all out
>>14061654
that would be cool.
>>14061641
this is true
>>14061622
however a race category like that would only benefit the car industry all the new technology that would come of the experimenting on the cars.
i would be down for something like that.
>>14061622
like Can-Am or Group C?
>>14061641
it would be COOL though
>>14061622
It would likely become a driverless race class very very quickly. Companies today can engineer cars that can exert more G-force than a human can take through the use of ground effects and fan cars, and the technology would only mature and grow at a considerably faster rate if it was for competition. The cars would also do traditional tracks so quickly and easily due to the downforce and acceleration that they can put out that there would need to be entirely new tracks made just for that racing series.
However, that is not to say it wouldn't be the coolest thing ever. Maybe instead of sitting the the stands the cars have cameras on them and you can use VR goggles to watch from the top of the car. They would certainly be going way to fast to be able to see from any stationary stands.
there should be a series for unlimited autonomous race cars where risk to human life is immaterial and body contact is encouraged.
if you remove the human element it's no longer a sport.
>>>/g/
>>14061716
humans design and build the cars
>>14061749
*computers design and build the cars
>>14061762
https://vimeo.com/61911435
>>14061805
I hardly consider a human bolting something together a sport, but whatever blows your hair back.
>>14061809
it would be like robot fights
fucking cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZUWMP5BQGI
I'd imagine it'd turn into something like this. And I'd be completely okay with that.
>>14061622
Unlimited class hillclimb already exists, its already dominated by people who just throw money at car design.
>>14061654
Fucking underaged b&
>>14061809
>motorsport is not a sport
>>14061827
Ok then. It was in a Popular Mechanics or some other magazine I was skimming through in a waiting room. Hardly makes me underage or makes it bait.
It makes sense. If there are no F1 regulations on what you can stick on/in your car, then you make the track more difficult to even things out. Kind of like the Baja 500/Dakar Rally - you design the car to fit the track.
>>14061654
yeah and them would have to build a production model of the car they engage with only modification to make it road legal
>>14061641
I think that as the cost to particate rose and rose, car companies would back out.
It already seems like only a couple manufacturers can compete in Le Mans prototype 1. If the cost to particate rose, no manufacturers would want to bother.
anyone that says no to a class like that is a pussy! its un American!!!
>>14061850
Reading comprehension. You need to work on it.
>>14061850
True dat.
Who ever tried to sell motorcars going round a track as a spectator sport is a fucking cunt.
"motorsport" is shit as fuck
There would be no actual competition
>>14061904
>amerifats
>competing in the highest form of motorsport like F1 and WEC
>ever thinking of competing even higher
>Redline will not happen in your lifetime
The old Can Am series was as close as it ever came to unlimited racing.
It was glorious!
>>14061641
Is it not already?
Isn't the whole point to encourage R&D?
>>14061622
See turn of the century races. Often the only rules were the class rules divided up by size and production cars.
>>14061641
Naw that's bullshit. Look at any racing with lax rules not just motorsports. While they may be expensive it's hardly spend money to win.
Power boat racing in the late 40s-60s often had the cheaper boats (boats with surplus engines form the army/airforce) dominate the race.
Another example would be post war hill climb bikes. There’s many others.
A modern example would be the extreme sport racing. Downhill bikes and other racing series have very lax rules and spending tons of money never guarantees a win.
Finding an example of a racing genre with lax rules that is spend money to win is pretty hard. I can’t think of one.
that was what group B was
people kept dying so they shut it down.
the new stuff is faster because they are focused on other things besides 600Hp 2000lb death traps.
Why does OP type like he has brain damage?
Is this the usual quality of a /o/ poster?
>>14061703
This is your future
>>14064152
Group B had a lot of limitations. Not sure why safety is such a concern. Even with group B at its worse it was still way safer then other motorsports.
>Can-Am
>>14061622
Never going to happen, but here's some series you might want to look into:
Pike's Peak International Hill Climb
Canadian-American Challenge Cup
World Time Attack Challenge
>>14061641
It's already like that. If you can't afford to spend a hundred million dollars on a 2% reduction in drag, you can't win.
>>14062826
>Chaparral
Hell yes
>>14061703
URV (unmanned racing vehicles) when?
>>14061622
What's the deal with Pike's Peak "unlimited" class? I thought that was pretty much as good as you can make the car with little restrictions.
>>14064794
So the French make the fastest cars after all...
>>14064780
...You mean RC cars?
>>14064803
No, just the best driver
>>14064811
Basically, but full-sized.
>>14061622
there was rallying had group 6 (unlimited production vehicle prototype) and then the group b
le mans does have unlimited class its class 1 . prototype
the only limiting factors are the track. and basic rules.
>>14064853
The prototypes almost have as many rules as F1 now...
>>14064853
LMP1 isn't unlimited. Pretty sure Group B wasn't actually unlimited, either.
>>14061694
no they can not, trained human can take 9G's sustained before passing out, 12 impulse.
learn something before running your mouth next time kid
>>14064887
it was unlimited. before it got banned the reason it got banned was too many people were getting killed
>>14064865
the only main rule is not based on production cars and 4 litres max capacity
>>14064931
>it was unlimited.
I think there were displacement limits?
>before it got banned the reason it got banned was too many people were getting killed
Yeah, because they were standing in the street.
>>14064168
>dat face
would /heem/
>>14061622
I think there was something called can am series and it was balls out no restrictions like you are talking about
>>14064929
There's a difference between not passing out and operating at peak capacity. The faster you need to go, the faster you need to think.
>>14064952
>implying fighter pilots don't need to think in a dogfight
do you ever get tired of being wrong?
>>14064979
You don't, because there's not much to run into and the other guy is also about to pass out.
>>14064780
Next year as a companion series to Formula E
>>14064929
But that's only in the vertical axis you retard. In the lateral axis even a well trained human can only survive 5G for about 10 seconds before losing consciousness, and that time shortens exponentially with each added G; and guess how many G's a modern formula one car can exert? 5-6 G's of cornering force, we're already at the limit of human endurance. The cars will need to be fundamentally redesigned for the driver to extract any more cornering speed
>>14062496
But Americans have done quite well in endurance racing. Most notably corvette racing.
>>14061887
I had that issue of Popular Mechanics too.
>>14065882
can you trip so i can filter you? im tired of reading retarded shit.
>>14066328
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19930020462.pdf
>implying this is retarded shit
I'll even help out your small brain. Page seven has the definition of tolerance and page 25 has the tolerance limits of test subjects. Another hint, Gy is the side to side lateral axis.
