Looking to grab either an S2K or RX-7 FD soon.
What's /o/'s opinion on either?
Which would you rather have?
I'm leaning a lot more towards the FD because of the styling and how it's not being a convertible
s2000 desu
RX-7 will garner more respect if you care about that sort of thing.
S2K is a girls car
>>14051360
Why the S2K over the FD anon?
>>14051372
I do somewhat like that. Road presence sort of thing
>>14051392
Relates to post above too, I guess
Do you not have a reliable daily driver?
Do you want to drive your car?
Do you hate working on cars?
Get the S2000 if you answered yes to those questions. FDs are 20+ year old cars and apex seals aside you better be ready to chase down other issues (vacuum lines, wiring harness issues from being a old Turbo car with engine bay temps somewhere between volcanic and Hitler's ovens)
>>14051399
the FD looks like a melted FC desu
plus its more reliable
you could also get an NC miata
due to typical inferior mazda design there's a bunch of shit to rethink on the rx7 if you want to make it as solid as a s2k but it's doable and worth it, because an s2k will never have the swag of a rx7
Stock trans and lsd is stronger than the s2ks, but the 13b is not nearly as reliable as the f engine, for me styling is a toss up but everyone thinks the rx7 is sexy
>>14051401
Well It'd be my daily driver but I do have a reliable car already.
>>14051420
I really like the styling of the FD some bit more, but that's opinion.
I want either one of the two because of the engineering behind them and they look pretty damn good.
>>14051433
In terms of handling do you think the S2K is better in that regards?
>>14051357
Whichever one you like more can't really go wrong with either one they're great track cars. Just make sure you do your homework on them when checking the cars out
>>14051449
Not really looking to make monster power at all, reliable 300rwhp is perfect for me.
>>14051454
Thanks anon, I've researched quite a bit into the FD but almost none into the S2K's. Any insight on an S2K you can share?
>>14051450
>In terms of handling do you think the S2K is better in that regards?
no. the s2k doesn't handle that well. s2k just has a more liveable engine.
F20C would be exceptional against any other engine but the 13brew is even more exciting.
>>14051484
Doesn't handle that great in comparison to the FD or just in general?
I thought it'd handle nicely or comparatively due to the engine placement
Just looking at your responses OP you're going to get an FD anyway so just go with it.
>>14051357
I'd take an mr2 turbo over either. But if I had to pick, fd.
>tarbos
>triangles
>pop ups
>dat ass
>2jz fits if I can't deal with triangles :^)
>>14051585
Slower than both though
>>14051515
>Doesn't handle that great in comparison to the FD or just in general?
in general, read some reviews.
>>14051585
hey apex, you seem knowledgeable about JZ
what is the best billet JZ block?
>>14051585
an fd with a built up 1uz would be perfect
400hp and 8000rpm are nice round numbers
>>14051399
S2K is more reliable, and was better represented in Initial D.
>>14051703
>basing your purchasing decisions on babby's cartoons
>>14051728
>tfw some child tried to roast but he can't even turn on the oven
>>14051654
I don't know honestly. Check the fourms for that info. Sorry m8.
Fd is the better car when not considering maintenance cost. If you don't have your own garage and enjoy working in it and have lots of money for replacement parts I'd skip the fd. Its a fantastic car but the whole rotary is a lifestyle attitide is correct because you'll probably end up feeling like you spend as much time wrenching on it as you do driving it within a few years of owning it. Especially if you use it to maximum potential.
>>14051854
I enjoy working on my own cars and I do have my own garage. Mostly all the tools I'd ever need if I went about organizing all the damn shit. Don't mind maintenance costs either. However I won't have an unholy money supply for replacement parts. Replacement parts in the form of what though? I can't imagine it's anything bad.
Also ran out of FD pics..I don't have very many.
>>14051621
but around half the price of both, and with the other half you can make it much more faster
>>14051357
why not get a sivic si or miata..
>tfw don't want to see either of these cars fall into wrong hands
the fd has:
superior handling
higher power
better styling
a roof
it does not have:
a cheaper price to purchase
cheaper parts
reliability
good gas mileage
if youre buying the car to have fun and have another car, buy an rx7
>>14051894
Pretty much this. Only car I really want in the 10-15k range unless I could get an evo for that, but the cheapest one I've seen is 18k
>>14051621
Yeah but you get
- mid-engine
- easy to modify and make fast
- t-tops
- almost as cool
>>14051950
sorry but mr-2 is topkeks
>>14051989
what does that mean?
>>14051894
That's not how it works, you can't just dump money into an engine and expect it to be faster around a track, the s2k and FD are well balanced from the start, the mr2 was slower than the type r around the several Japanese tracks even though it was up almost 40 hp
>>14052010
>That's not how it works
yes it is.. probably the single biggest factor in racing is horsepower
Things to do when you get an FD:
Cooling system overhaul
Single turbo conversion
Engine rebuild by a reputable mazda specialist
>>14052032
this has to be bait
>>14052010
look at this kuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFEi-0Rx6J0
>>14051357
Both you and I OP. My first car was rotary and I loved it. Properly maintained it almost never failed me. The only problems I had daily driving it were a cooling hose busting on me and an oil leak. Smoging it was also kind of a bitch (california). Aside from that I had no other problems. If I could find an FD I would buy that in a heartbeat. However all I'm see are S2000s. I don't like sun/moonroofs on cars and especially on sports cars so I'm not huge on the whole convertible thing. But I've convinced myself that if I get an S2000 I'll get a hard top. Anyway, both cars are great. Like a couple of the posters mentioned above, the FD reigns supreme over the S2000 performance wise but the S2000 isn't far behind.
Lot of things to take into consideration. Like the FD is just a lot more fun over all. Can't really drift with an S2000. Shit like that. Unless that's not your thing
>>14052032
>bench racing autism
Lol I just told you it was slower than a ek9 type r with more horsepower
Go to a track kid and educate yourself
Neither spend 5k get a clean foxbody and build the fuck out of it.
I'd want the one that is reliable and convertible so s2k. Any person that says an fd is reliable is an owner of dorito and in denial
>>14051449
Ap2 trans is better than fd trans. Ap1 not so much. Source : myself ( ap1 owner)
> i've never owned either of these two cars so it makes me an expert
/o/ - the thread
>>14052059
https://youtu.be/H_ZzDVL3Agw
Rekt
>>14051903
>better styling
subjective
>roof
Huge negative that rx7 has roof. S2000 can have a roof or not. Options.
>>14052063
>comparing production cars
>pretending it's relevant in the real world
ive been to plenty of tracks. ive won championships. horsepower is the #1 factor when drivers are equal.
making a car handle well is cheap and easy as bolting shit on and learning to tune it. you can't tune horsepower you either have it or you dont.
>>14052115
Not only are you an idiot, lying on the Internet anon that's very childish, I award you no points for your autism.
>>14052102
> car that's at least 600lbs lighter and has a better power to weight ratio wins
ok?
>>14052139
I'm not arguing with you, but power-to-weight ratio's aren't be all end all
>>14052131
>50 hp less
>almost as much power
>almost
Kek delusion mode activ8
>>14052158
I was thinking it was a 2nd gen 3S-GTE which makes 200 at the crank.
The civic still has a large advantage in weight and power-to-weight ratio.
>>14052130
there's a reason a budget for a race car is like 80% engine..
in a competitive national or regional level club series you'll spend as much on a single engine as the rest of your entire car.
>>14052183
Yet again you have no clue what you're talking about, there's guys out there in scca with 180 hp miata walking supercharged brz's and they're not even in the same division
Just stop while you don't look completely retarded kiddo
>>14052183
>there's a reason a budget for a race car is like 80% engine
this isnt the 80s dude
>>14051622
What mate? Have you read any reviews? What handling traits is it considered bad for
>>14051995
he doesn't like it or he can't drive it
>>14052010
>all into engine
really obvious troll. he didn't even mention engine. can buy a s2k for 12k or an mr2t for 6k and use other 6k to make it lighter, handle better, and have more power
>>14052115
>making a car handle well is cheap and easy as bolting shit on and learning to tune it. you can't tune horsepower you either have it or you dont
nice bait kek
>>14051357
S2Ks are cool but everyone will assume you're a douche.
The FD will almost certainly skyrocket in value if mazda ever manages to get the new rotary into production.
The FD will also be slower than anything decently quick and most people assume 1.3 liters means good mpg but the displacement only measures one rotor face of each rotor so if you triple it and add the 10psi of boost at 6-8k rpm you'll be hanging around to keep moving it's actually terrible
>>14052198
I can't believe how bad this board is. You're actually a retard.
If you want to win the spec miata scca nationals you're going to be buying a $10,000 engine or you aren't winning.
>>14052109
added stability from a roof thats literally a part of the unibody, not held on with 4 bolts.
I'd take the FD for sure. It's faster and it's better looking. Sure, the S2000 is a great car, but getting more power out of an F20C is harder than the 13b, and as long as you take care of the rotary the way you need to, it'll be reliable. A good FD is cheaper than a good S2000 too.
The S2000 is more of a casual enthusiast's car. Less maintenance, less hassle, less potential.
>>14051703
Are you high? Keisuke was number 2 to Takumi in the series.
>>14052567
All the racers on hot version prefer the s2k to the FD on the track and touge. As far s making power goes tell that to the guys making 400hp on super chargers
>>14052636
Uh... no. The FDs always mop up in the touge battles.
>>14051484
Is this a troll? How can you say that the s2k doesn't handle well? It's one of the best drivers cars of all time and handles like its on rails. There is no auto review where they talk negatively about its handling. I swear /o/ just keeps filling with people who have no idea about anything auto related at all.
>>14051357
I own both an FD and S2000
The FD is not a turn key car. You drive it on it's schedule not yours.
The s2000 is tame, you can daily an s2000.
Which do I like more? FD. If you don't have a reliable daily don't buy an FD.
>>14052844
is that yours? nice wheels.
>>14052884
Yes, thanks I love regas.
>>14051357
Grab this instead
>>14051585
You ruined the car with that engine. I would personally put either a gallo 12 or gallo 24 in it.
>>14052474
Are you implying the s2000 doesn't have a sturdy chassis and body
>>14051357
OBVIOUSLY AN FD HOLY SHIT
DORITO
DORITO
DORITO
>>14052574
Both of them were autistic. The series should have revolved around God Hand.
>>14052636
lol
400hp is no problem for a turbo rotary
>>14051357
I had an s2k. It was.....okay. FUN to drive, but slow and fucking TINY. My shoulders rubbed the door all the time. The only real mods are turbo or SC. I liked the car, but I would rather have an FD.
>>14052266
>>14052789
notamiata your car is shit and you can't drive deal with it son
>>14051357
FD if you want "WOW BRO" factor, S2000 if you need something "slightly" more reliable and easier to maintain.
>no torque meme car that overheats and breaks down
>civic with a driveshaft that will kill you if the suspension geometry feels like it
>>14052909
Sauce on this image? I want high res
>>14052422
Mid 13s is fairly fast IMO, especially for a 90s car
>>14053656
> turbocharged rotary
> no torque
what
>>14052574
S2000 guy was better than Takumi.
>>14054049
But he's right, you know.
>>14055051
it revs to high RPMs so gearing makes up for the lack of torque.
it's a touge/track machine, so it doesn't really need massive amounts of low-end torque.
>>14055057
are you tacitly admitting it doesn't make much torque but are too butthurt to admit
>>14055057
Thanks for agreeing with me.
>>14055059
uh, engine torque is pretty much a factor of displacement so sure.
Wheel torque is what matters and why gears exist.
>>14051901
You might want to check out Haggard Garage on YT for that matter
FD if you dont mind some maintenance
Damn, the thread got a lot of posts since yesterday. Thanks for all your replies on opinions, even the maximum baits. I'll be going with the FD to the S2K
>>14052032
>dat torque tho
>m-muh driver mod
>>14051357
FD will be more valuable in the future, but would definitely not want to DD it. If you're looking for a DD get the S2K.
Personally, an FC is my dream car, and I'm angling to get one in a few years.
