Is anyone else legitimately, unironically excited about this or is it just me?
>>14042961
Everything about it screams
>I AM DESIGNED FOR NIGGERS
>>14042970
>>I AM DESIGNED FOR CHINKS
ftfy
>>14042961
>ugly wheels
>FWD
>not V8
That's gonna be a no for me
Proportions look to be a huge improvement over the MKS. I really like the wheels too (I think all the Lincolns are getting that style of wheel). Still it's look better if the front wheels were pushed a bit further forward.
>>14043150
V8s are deprecated. Get over it.
And who cares if it's FWD or RWD (it'll probably be AWD anyway). Are you planning on drifting your giant luxury sedan?
>>14043171
>V8s are deprecated. Get over it.
Audi
BMW
Cadillac
Infiniti
Jaguar
Lexus
Maserati
Mercedes-Benz
Porsche
>>14043150
Who cares about any of that shit in a luxury barge? FWD means more cabin space.
>>14043293
Going forward legislation will make small engines - turbocharged and/or hybrids - the norm. Ford known which way the wind is blowing with the ecoboosts.
It wasn't too long ago that V12s were pretty common in mainstream (non-exotic) luxury cars. The same thing is happening to V8s.
Also who would have thought diesels would become the most common engines in luxury cars (as is now the case in Europe). Times change.
>>14043297
>ugly wheels
It's supposed to look expensive and classy, not factory niggered.
>FWD
Literally the opposite of what a land barge is supposed to be.
>not V8
Land barges are supposed to have smooth, linear power with lots of torque to carry the weight. Why do you think BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, etc. still use RWD V8s at least?
The big engines put a halo over the model, but I wonder how many V8 (let alone V12) models of those companies big sedans are actually sold. I would guess - compared to the V6 models - it's a very small number these days.
>>14043348
Do you really think FWD vs. RWD makes any difference in the handling of these huge cars? (apart from hotted-up versions you'll only ever see on Top Gear). These big cars stayed RWD because of torque steer, a problem that's been solved nowadays.
Re: power, the 3.5 turbo has 365 hp 350 lb/ft in the current MKS. The new 3.0 twin turbo in the 2017 MKZ makes 400 hp and 400 lb/ft (more powerful than any Lincoln ever made).
>>14043171
yes
>>14043150
They're all going to be AWD like the A8.
>excited about a knockoff design
Are you Chinese, OP?
>>14045603
>like an A8
cool, are there going to 8, 10, and 12 cylinder models available too?
>>14042961
>keep your niggermobile
>ls f sport best land yacht
>>14043337
Translation: I am a faggot and have dicks in any given orifice 24/7
>>14046697
Someone is obsessing over a certain race of people, grow up child.
>>14045726
Probably a V8 eventually as this is going to be a prestige vehicle in China and being able to own a V8 is a big status symbol there.
>>14046889
Nice try, Zhang, now go back to failing kids at the college you lecture at because you can't speak English
Saw it at the auto show. It had such presence
The big wheels help a lot. Those better be standard.
most beautiful car i've seen in years. it's a shame their halo car isn't going to be rwd or offer a v8 though
>>14043171
>>14043297
Rwd and awd feel infinitely better than fwd, car none.
>>14047629
With cars this big and planted you'd never know the difference. If there's no slip or torque steer the handling dynamics are really a function of the electronic stability.
>>14042970
Dixie/o/ reporting Horse Masterrace.
My horse just eats my pizza remains and will run more longer than a Noggermobole.
Not that car in particular, but Lincoln's future models going from here.
I hope they make a really nice luxury coupe, maybe with some good performance to become Ford's very own luxury sports coupe.
I do hope the production Continental looks as good as the concept does. Its a stunner for sure.
>>14043171
>Are you planning on drifting your giant luxury sedan?
Yes
>>14047844
>we're still doing this meme
>>14047844
>>14047899
>cherry picking american cars
pls no
>>14047844
>>14047899
>>14047913
>i'm going to post these until someone cares
>>14047637
Idk, fwd has always felt inferior to rwd and awd, even in "good" fwd cars.
Subjective, but I've heard this from many people. Just the fact that the front does the work is off compared to from the back
>>14047929
>calling yourself lord
>drives a junk ass gm vehicle yet shitposts like a retard
>wants to be a cop and thinks you have to go to college
>pretends to play a "character" as an excuse for being a friendless furry faggot
>>14047945
>gm fangirls this rustled over shitposting
kek
>>14043359
Mercedes had to get a bigger factory to make all the new turbo V12's
>>14043293
If only Fiat would allow the creation of an Imperial with the modern 392
>>14042961
>those nigg spinner rims
Where did Lincoln go so wrong?
>>14043150
Its actually AWD, and if I've heard correctly, its a system that will send 70% of its engine power to the rear wheels.
As for the V6 EcoBoost, it can apparently produce 400hp.
I think this car will surprise people.
>>14048585
>Its actually AWD
It's FWD, there will be an AWD version available (like the Taurus/MKZ)
http://blog.caranddriver.com/luxury-not-performance-at-lincoln-and-the-continental-bows-at-detroit/
>and if I've heard correctly, its a system that will send 70% of its engine power to the rear wheels.
MKZ/Continentals with the optional 'Driver's Package' will use the GKN torque vectoring system from the RS, it won't be set up the same because it's not a hoon-mobile.
>>14047629
t.boyracer
>>14048585
That's the new MKZ (twin turbo and fancy AWD system), but you'd assume its big brother would get the same.
Lincoln has a really shitty dealer presence in Asia, where these kind of large soft sedans are king. I see the very odd MKS or MKZ here in Seoul, but then Cadillac seems to have no presence whatsoever (I suppose because GM makes/sells the Alpheon here).
>>14042961
>no suicide doors
Blunder of the century, rental car taxi cab/10
>>14048773
Suicide doors with thick B-pillars is pointless, and necessitated by modern safety regs.
>>14047154
Wot. Are you seriously impliyng that Lincoln isn't seen as a prestige brand in China? It has way more status in Slantland than in the US. The same way Buick does.
>>14048206
Chrysler wanted to bring back the Imperial for a 2007 MY release during Daimler ownership. It was going to ride on an extended 300 platform, be fitted with an uprated 6.1 liter Hemi and share systems and suspension with the S-Class. They killed it off due to the financial crisis.
Since Cadillac and Lincoln are now building fuckhuge barges again, largely for huge Asian demand, I could see Chrysler attempting to bring it back once more to offer a competitor in the segment. The 300 still sells well, and Fiat has confirmed that the next generation 300 will still be RWD so if they build an Imperial it would likely share the platform and be a proper RWD barge too.
>>14049240
I see a fair number of 300s here in Korea, which is weird since I've never seen a Chrysler dealership or ad. The 300 and especially the 200 are really on the money in Asia, the problem is dealer network I'd think.
>>14049258
I've always thought Chrysler would do well in Asia. I have no idea why they don't invest more in the China-Korea-Taiwan-Malaysia market. They make decently quick, comfortable premium feeling sedans and offer them at a very low price point. They could probably even make a lot of the optional luxury-esque features standard if they brought pricing in line with Hyundai/Toyota/Kia/Honda. I really hope they start focusing on Asia more, it'd make the Imperial a very viable product for them to produce as a Cima/Equus/K9/Majesta/Chairman competitor. Does Chrysler even have a dedicated dealer network in Korea or are they just privately imported?
>>14049276
http://www.chrysler.co.kr/fca/
Looks like they have 20 or so dealers. I've never noticed. Obviously it's hard to compete with Hyundai/Kia/GM when they have a dealer on every block.
I haven't been in a Chrysler in a few years (e.g. a newest gen 300 or 200). Are they competative in terms of perceived interior quality?
BTW I really don't see the point in a LWB 300. It's already got lots of room, and it's not like any will be chauffeur driven.
>>14049240
>make it low and sleek?
>no let's make it disgustingly fat and tall
>>14049310
I wonder if those inboard tires will ever made a comeback.
>>14049310
I'd prefer this 1000 times over this >>14049240 shitty soap bar design
>>14049306
Chrysler is the smallest of the domestic brands in the US as well.
>Are they competative in terms of perceived interior quality?
Perceived yes, especially for the 200. They offer a real bronze and textured wood interior set with leather in a car that's only $26,000. I can't think of another brand that does that. It's interior feels upmarket compared to the Sonata, Malibu, Fusion, Altima and Camry. I think only the new Passat comes close in the segment.
The 300 not so much. It's still very comfortable but it's an old design and it shows. It's due to be redesigned next year and if they follow the 200, it will probably be quite nice inside.
I think the Imperial would likely be an attempt to enter the upper eschelons of luxury for Chrysler. Meaning an attempt to break into Mercedes-Benz/Audi territory so it'd need to be just as big as an A8L or LWB S-Class.
>>14049347
>I think the Imperial would likely be an attempt to enter the upper eschelons of luxury for Chrysler. Meaning an attempt to break into Mercedes-Benz/Audi territory so it'd need to be just as big as an A8L or LWB S-Class.
Chrysler's never been competitive at the really premium end, even when they were just competing with Cadillac and Lincoln. It'd be a losing game to try again.
Chrysler's traditionally been a "near-premium" brand, but unfortunately for them there's really no longer such a thing in North America or Europe for whatever reason. But that's really the heard of the market in Asia. Asians are somewhat status-seeking in terms of brand, but the size of a vehicle also means a lot here. Since really big Mercedes, Jaguars, etc. are so ludicrously expensive, a brand that's more affordable, but not tainted with the stigma of making cheap small cars, really is where the money is at here.
>>14049396
>no longer such a thing in North America or Europe for whatever reason
I suspect this is because the West is a lot less class-conscious then it used to be. Wealthy people don't seem the least bit troubled by the idea of optioning up a +$40k Ford/Volkswagen/Honda, brands which can be gotten into with $15k compacts.
>>14049310
>no let's make it disgustingly fat and tall
Literally "we want the Rolls Royce Phantom crowd". They didn't even attempt to hide it. Good thing it never went into production, otherwise it would've been the nigger equivalent of a British luxury car, like the Chrysler 300 is to Bentley.
>>14049347
I like that wheel.
>>14049408
it literally looks like they used a truck chassis
this would have been the most basketball-american automobile ever conceived
This would look much better / cleaner / less derisive if they got rid of the 'gill' below the a-pillar (whatever those stupid fake vent things every car now has for some reason).
>>14049258
>>14049276
I see 300s occasionally in china
Still rare compared to Cadillac and Holden/Buicks
>>14047695
>luxury sports coupe from Lincoln
I'd buy the shit out of that. Ford is wasting Lincoln's potential.
>>14050666
Shop based on the Mustang obviously.
>>14050666
Mustang-based MK Coupe when?!
>>14050695
Two-part grill looks fantastic on this.
>>14050695
Problem if they'd probably half-ass it and not do a proper job of it. They'd try to share body panels and other bits and pieces, and you'd end up with a Mustang trim level not a unique vehicle.
GM did it right with the XLR, but that was a low volume boutique halo vehicle and priced like it.
>>14050695
That actually looks really good
I always thought the newer Lincolns looked amazing. Very elegant by appearance, but not much a road presence at the same time, for some reason.
This car fits both bills.
I'm not a fan on the MKZ refresh (with the Continental nose). Looked better before.
>>14043150
>>FWD
how quickly people forget the Continental was FWD before. and back then, it also used the Taurus platform
>>14051017
I think it looked fat before, but I liked that before it didn't look like every other luxury sedan on the market.
>>14051031
BUT BRUH MUH V8
>>14051031
>Ford sold a blobby Taurus with an overly softened ride and called it a "Lincoln"
absolutely FUCKING disgusting
>>14051062
that car is super comfy though. I performed my license test in one. Drives like a boat and is all around a decent ride.
>>14049347
That fucking cockpit
HNNNNGGGG
>>14052524
>liking a dial instead of a stick
normie detected
>>14048585
Agreed, just consider all of the stock Flex ecoboosts running 12's
>>14046786
Someone is obsessing over someone obsessing over Japanese cars, chill out faggot.
>>14050695
if only lincoln had this and the continental concept in their lineup. this shit is like a 10/10 as well as the continental (preferably with v8 and rwd)
would take lincoln seriously again/10
>>14055228
I doubt the Continental concept will change much for production. Normal mirrors, smaller wheels... looks pretty production ready as is.
>>14055228
This would actually be improved by a 'spare tire' hump on the trunk lid.
>>14043012
Looks like a 300c or dodge charger donkmobile
>chinks instead of niggers
Nigger confirmed
>>14055718
...I wonder if they'll stick with the door handles integrated into the window frame. Hope so, since it really makes the design. I assume that'd require power assisted doors, but that wouldn't be surprising for Lincoln (they basically invented power-assisted-everything).
>>14055743
doesn't look like it unless this is subterfuge
>>14055758
Disappointing.
We'll always have the concept (high rez incoming).
Hold on to your butts, the no-door-handles is happening: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/15/lincoln-continental-production-spy-shots/
Confirmed for pretty much exactly like the concept.
Wonder why it's riding so low at the back? (maybe they're testing with a heavy load or something?)
This could very well end up being the best looking full-size sedan.
>>14055743
>>14055758
You can actually see the high mounted door releases in newer spy pics.
What's up with the weirdness going on with the roof glass?
This is going to have a trick roof like the MKZ? (but doesn't look like the same design, since that has obvious rails along the real window)
>>14055988
maybe its a lift-back?
>>14056020
Could be, but what's the point of that?
>>14056038
larger aperture for suitcases plus you can load through into the cabin with the seats down
>>14056045
I love that luggage.
This is going to slaughter the ugly-ass XTS.
>>14056127
well I think its more a competitor for the new CT6. Either way, GM a shit.
>>14056053
it looks nice. but the moment it goes near an airplane it comes back dented and scuffed
>>14056045
Yeah probably a lift back. The Model S and A7 are like that as well. Both can fit much more shit than a normal trunk in there.
>>14056136
>traveling by public transport
>>14056140
>Airliners are public transit
>>14056148
you get what I mean, mass transportation.
>>14056129
Shit I didn't even know this existed. It's the XTS replacement?
I take back what I said then. This CT6 looks legit.
>>14056151
Were you planning to drive across the Atlantic?
>>14056152
XTS isn't a flagship model. The CT6/Continental/S-Class etc are flagship sedans.
>>14056155
why would I wanna do that?
Nice to see that Cadillac and Lincoln are both getting their shit together. Not sure how anyone will justify an S-Class if all you really want is a big super-comfortable sedan with all the gizmos, when it's tens of thousands more expensive... although I guess if you're in this market you don't really care.
>>14056156
Seems weird that Cadillac would have two full-size sedans in their lineup. Confusing for consumers. The XTS seems like it should be the Buick flagship.
Nah. It's just you and a few others like you.
>>14047629
If you own a car like this, you're probably not the one driving it.
>>14056175
The XTS is being discontinued in 2019 with no direct replacement.
Escalade is Cadillac's defacto flagship.
>>14056178
Uhhh this is a Lincoln. It's not a Bentley or Rolls. It's basically on the same level as Cadillac, BMW, etc. in terms of flagship luxury.
>>14056178
Except for those that go into limo service, these will be owner-driven. Rolls is really the only brand where you can expect to have a driver (at least traditionally, Bentley is the Rolls for people who drive themselves).
>>14046703
Then you should probably take them out. You could choke yo death
>>14056203
A car like this would be chauffeur driven in China. I assume without China the manufacturers wouldn't bother selling long wheelbase versions of these cars anymore.
>>14043293
Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar, Maserati and Porsche are all going for less cylinders now, so fuck that list.
V8s are no longer needed for luxury cars.
>>14043394
Lolol. The HP rating is barely better than the BBF motors they ran in the old continentals, and I believe some were rated higher than 400hp. The Ecoshit can't come near the torque.
>>14057080
Cadillac CT6 and the S-Class both have 4-cylinder base models now. Wouldn't be too surprised if the Continental did as well.
>>14057116
I think you're forgetting the pittiful horsepower those old huge V8s made. Even the most powerful Navigator modern big V8s only made ~300hp iirc.
>>14049396
Bullshit on the Chrysler being near luxury. Compare reviews for a 67 Imperial Crown and a same year DeVille or Continental. The Chrysler was more comfortable (T bars are GOAT), had more space inside, and offered more horsepower until the 500 Cadillac became a thing
>>14056129
I'm actually pretty excited to see Cadillac's new range they're coming up with.
I know the only cars they sell are gonna be Escalades and crossovers, but for me at least they scratch the luxury sedan itch pretty well, especially with how boring BMW has gotten and how bizarre Lexus has gotten.
>>14057080
every manufacturer on that list is still actively manufacturing V8 engines
the 2015 G11 7-series has a (shit) V8 and a V12 coming out next year
>>14046697
>upscale Toyota
>crunched up grille
>calls a Japanese car a land barge
Yeah no thanks...
