What's more expensive
FWD to RWD
or
FWD to AWD
I can't be FF anymore I fucking can't
What are the price range to do that conversion
>>14018286
Depends on if your car had optional AWD from the factory or not, and it would be much, MUCH easier and maybe even cheaper to just buy something else.
>>14018286
Depends. If your car originally had an AWD variant available (or an AWD car used the same platform) you might be able to convert it relatively easily.
If not, I'd imagine FF to FR would be cheaper simply because it needs less parts.
>>14018308 is right though, it's way cheaper to just buy something that already is RWD or AWD.
>>14018308
I'm not soulless like you sorry
>>14018286
neither
drivetrain swaps are more expensive than whatever shitbox you own and it would seriously be cheaper to drive it off a cliff and buy fucking anything on craigslist
>not buying a RWD/AWD car
>>14018308
It's a volkswagen A2 platform
Ff/rwd to awd are cheap as in forza. Which is obviously the closest you will ever get to a real car you neet pleb. Stop askimg stupid questions you fuckdick retard.
>>14018326
>>14018319
fuck you
fucking no-one is going to make your retarded late 80's shitbox into some AWD god machine for a pack of gum
this is one of those questions that if you have to ask, you're too stupid to even contemplate the answer
>>14018318
No it isn't cheaper
>>14018348
>if you ask don't do it
Nice mene, go back to kalopnok
My car isn't a shitbox, I love it
>>14018326
if your not smart enough to google '[your car] synchro conversion' then i'd sit this one out champ
>>14018369
I just need a solid $$$ here
How hard is it to convert a 1st gen Volvo S60 AWD to RWD (Or FWD to RWD, there are both kinds) ?
I'm sad
>>14018375
ok fine
it would probably be somewhere in the realm of $10,000-20,000 in parts alone, half that if you can find some shitty used parts
add to that a fuckton of labor, say 100 hours at minimum
go fucking buy a different car shitlord
>>14018463
Why is it so expensive
Why does FF have to be so bad? Why are there no cheap RWD cars I could have bought instead
>>14018472
there are plenty of cheap RWD cars out there and you are quite blind
>>14018484
What the fuck are they
And do not suggest the usual shit
I found a starion but it was too much
>>14018493
where do you live, my dear anon?
>>14018497
America
>>14018501
post your local craigslist moron
>>14018463
>go fucking buy a different car shitlord
most conversions require a donor car anyway
>>14018501
Just buy a fucking Impreza and be done with it.
>>14018501
post local cl, we'll get you something guf
>>14018528
Too expensive
>>14018535
> Impreza too expensive
> Wants to do a drive line swap
Fucking lol
>>14018550
I thought we were talking options here
>>14018501
wait a second
>starion
>vw A2
I smell a eurokek
>>14018559
Bitch, if you can't scrape together 5000 measly dollars for an old second-hand Impreza (not a WRX, an Impreza), you don't -have- options.
>>14018574
>impreza
>5k
Haha
Do you live in fairy tale land
>>14018578
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Subaru-Impreza-2000/SSE-AD-1046496/?Cr=2
I dunno what the prices are like in Murrika
>>14018578
>>14018578
fuck you
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/5336200041.html
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/5345327781.html
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/ctd/5352764596.html
>>14018578
Yuro here. Imprezas (yes, even AWD ones) can be found for under a fucking grand. Under 5k for one in decent condition isn't insane.
>>14018586
>>14018588
There is one impreza for sale for not insane price and it is a 99 wagon
>>14018602
where
$6500 for 2002 wagon
$11150 for a 2003 sedan
$4000 for a fucking shell 2002 sedan
>>14018629
2002 SUBARU IMPREZA
TEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS
>>14018629
I don't believe you, post the ad
>wanting AWD when RWD is superior
you want cheap? mustang. cheap and easy to work on
>>14018589
Are there 2wd Imprezas? I thought the model started after Subaru switched entirely to AWD?
>>14018629
>>14018651
You sure those aren't WRXes?
Shut up and buy a Miata, faggot.
>>14018673
There are two non wrx impreza, one us that wagon the other is a wreck
>>14018681
Post your local Craigslist, please.
>>14018578
http://austin.craigslist.org/search/cta?sort=rel&max_price=5000&query=subaru+impreza
There's 11 under 5k near me, even though this isn't Subaru country. Don't forget about the Legacy, you can often find a cleaner one of those cheaper than an Impreza.
>>14018501
>not just getting a Miata
it's overrated as fuck but that doesn't stop it from being a good, cheap RWD car
>>14018709
Too small not an option
>>14018472
FF is bad in all the modern pigfat cars that are out today
In old lightweight cars, FWD is fine
>>14018700
One legacy , 2001 GT, engine problems, $2000
>>14018718
My car is a 93, how heavy is lightweight
>>14018718
>suspension and tire design advancements is giving us the fastest, best handling FWD cars we've ever seen
>hurr oldarrgh is bettarrrgh
>>14018737
Do you also spit on poor people and push the homeless in front of traffic?
Probably FWD to RWD since they don't have a transmission tunnel build into the car or mounting points for a diff & axles, and the rear suspension design may have to be completely scrapped. I hope you're handy with a welding torch.
to you morons suggesting a different car there is something special about his car, its called sentimental value. something you can never replace. i remember my first beer
>>14018716
Get a miata and and keep your FWD shitbox
>>14018763
Fuck off, OP. You drive a Volkswagen.
>>14018286
youre retarded
it depends on the car, not which wheels turn
>>14018768
It's not a shitbox and no, miata is not an option
>>14018774
german soul volkswagen
>>14018781
>German
>Soul
im not op but I got same problem
http://miami.craigslist.org/search/cta?sort=date&auto_transmission=1
welcome to hell fąm tbreych desu senpai desu desu desu
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>>14018286
Lol you'll spend 10-20k doing this conversion and it'll still be a piece of shit.
Just buy a rwd or awd car dreamer.. And don't pull the "I want to do something different" because it has been done a thousand times. Unless you are a professional driver in some form of Motorsport then I would bet every cent I have that this will never eventuate. You're some dreaming 18 yr old that doesn't even realise the cost or work involved in this.
>>14018799
Read threads before you comment in them, you look like a 65 year old man complaining about hippies in 2033
>>14018286
Both are nearly impossible. The problem is FF cars have the engine mounted transverse. It's a lot easier to do that kind of thing with a longitudinally mounted engine. I guess you could do something like the Evo but it still wouldn't be easy. You car simply doesn't have a tunnel down through the center where the driveshaft and center diff need to go. You would have to do a hell of a lot of cutting. If you pay someone else to do it expect something north of $20k. Possibly a lot more I don't know.
>>14018379
Just remove your front axles. Boom, done.
>>14018672
He wants to be able to turn corners m80
>>14018808
I did read the thread.. What are you implying I missed that couldve changed what I wrote?
ITT : op is some dreaming 18yr old who can't even afford a 5k impreza yet thinks doing a driveline swap on a vw shitheap is in his budget.
>>14018790
http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cto/5298129812.html
>$700
>manual
>RWD
Sure it's a rust bucket, but I'll bet you get at least a couple of years out of it.
>>14018839
Impreza is way more than 5k
>>14018845
might as well buy FF
Rwd landboat incoming
>>14018790
Holy shit there is nothing there
What the fuck? It's a major city
>>14018813
>nearly impossible
You must be a Yuro with that kind of attitude.
>>14018586
Theyre under 5k, I don't know what hes on about.
>>14019095
Those cars cost a fair amount do they not?
>>14019095
Hey I was eating a burger and fries and driving when I saw this but I waited until the red light because this comment is so true it made me spew mountin dew all over my new F-150 Raptor with a 4' lift kit and 45 inch tires
>>14019120
isnt that a 1st gen focus
you'll probably spend more on the rear axle than the car
just buy a fucking impala
>>14019153
I dunno how much the kit costs if there is one.
>>14018928
i want one of those and idk why
>>14019120
Already swapped Foci switch hands for around 10k or more usually.
>>14019153
Yes, many have been done.
>>14019187
Kugel Komponents makes the kit to swap Foci to RWD.
>>14018846
We've already proven that to be bullshit with a variety of sales links to affordable Imprezas
Buy an '80s BMW
>>14019252
>cobra engine in focus
>>14019345
hate bmw
>>14019384
It gets even better.
Also, they're pretty fast....obviously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqSMSCUs7Ao
>>14019387
FFS, you don't have the budget to be so picky!
>>14019431
i also dont have the budget to fix BMW
>>14019387
spotted the pleb
also
>fwd to rwd
if you're going live rear axle.. it's not hard, but it would be extremely expensive to have someone else do it.
if you're going IRS much harder.. you're going to be completely custom fabbing the rear unibody and unibody frame rails, or alternatively fabbing an entirely custom rear subframe.
Holy fuck someone screenshot this retard.
>>14019406
>tfw you will never own a terminator
>much less a focus with a termi engine.
