I'm not a car person but my babyboomer dad was just ranting about how modern vehicles have too much computer shit which inevitably breaks and makes maintenance a pain in the ass. The most recent car I've driven was from 2003 so I don't really have the experience to judge. But is my dad right, are modern cars a pain in the ass to work with?
tell him OBD 2 exist and to shut up
They're usually worse but not impossible to work on. Everything's just packaged real tight these days to not waste space which makes it less comfortable and more complex to get to stuff.
>>13979964
>how modern vehicles have too much computer shit which inevitably breaks
It doesn't.
>>13979964
Well I'd much rather work on a 1993 miata than a 2015 STi.
>that mess of tubes and wires
>>13979987
Pretty much this.
The computers (Usually) aren't the problem, it's the tight packaging of everything in a small space under the hood.
Old cars had tons of space using tiny pushrod engines in huge engine bays, now it's huge OHC engines in tiny engine bays.
>>13980029
>>13979987
>that feel when small block 318 in an engine bay designed to hold up to a 440 big block
I could live in the engine bay there's so much space.
>>13980005
Well I'd much rather work on a 2015 STI than your moms cock
>that mess of tubes and wires
>>13980040
>not actually crawling into your engine bay to get close to the issue
I set up a block of plywood over the fenders to get comfy if I'm going to be in there a while
>>13980058
>wood in an engine bay
>>13979964
meh newer vehicles are a bajillion times more reliable than vehicles made as recent as ten years ago
>>13979964
Had my spark plugs replaced, disconnected battery. The radio reset itself and I don't have the SD card required to reprogram it, dealership wants $500 just to reprogram the radio.
>>13979964
my modern fly by wire car has 10x more issues in the two years i owned it vs my old as shit farm truck.
all computer related, all electrical, all related to the canbus network.
>>13980098
This is in a subaru btw
>>13980072
i know i have wood when im in an engine bay.
>>13980102
faggot
>>13979964
He's kinda right, touchscreen non-DIN infotainment units duck and will be a pain in the dick to replace in 10-15 years.
>>13979964
What >>13979987 said, but there's also the fact of life that old people have shit opinions.
It's gonna happen to us too, someday we'll be the old faggot going on about manual transmitions and the time when we actually drove our own cars.
>>13980157
eat a dick
>>13980098
What needs to be reprogrammed?
>>13980098
>The radio reset itself and I don't have the SD card required to reprogram it, dealership wants $500 just to reprogram the radio.
>>13980711
>What needs to be reprogrammed?
He needs a replacement SD card required to use the radio/gps unit.
I'd just buy an aftermarket radio that connects to my phone and be done with it.
