ITT: we bitch about nowadays modern cars
>electronic handbrake
>>13960471
>digital dash
>muh autopilot
>muh angry face
>muh soap design
>>13960471
>economy mode
>wires in your doors
>wires in your seats
>wires in your god damned trunklid
>>13960471
Angry/smug face. It's everywhere and I HATE IT
>two cylinder
>0.1 ccm3
>touch screens
>constipated angry face design
>carved-from-soap shapes
>gigantic wraparound headlights
>direct injection with no upstream injectors to keep clean the intake manifold
>>13960471
>he got BTFO in that Camaro thread so he makes another
lmao.
>>13960471
>rubber band CVT
Fine with CVT's in small hatches and supermini's, but why does it have to be in, say an A3 wagon? Useless.
>huge A pillars
Sure, great for rollovers, but I tend to spend more time searching for cars tha disappeared in my A-pillar, than I do with my car sitting on it's roof.
>half assed spare tire solution
I'd rather have spare at all, just a AAA card. Just don't give me a halfassed solution.
>run flat tires
Expensive, and offer rubbish traction. I'd rather have a spare. Also, fuck all seasons, just get some nice wheels with summer tires, and a set of steelies with your winter rubber. Stop halfassing this stuff, and stop offering it to consumers whe they buy their car off the lot.
>ABS, ESP and TCS that can't be turned off
Dear god no
>seat belt chimes that stay on when I'm reversing (especially when parking a trailer
JUST STOP
>Sport button on an autotragic Peugeot 206 SW
WHYYYYY
>OEM Navigation system
Fuck you.
>engine covers
Again, fuck you.
One of the very few thing's I'm OK with is artificial engine noise, wierdly. Engines have gotten quiters, and cars have gotten better at insulation, so I'm okay with venting some sound into the cabin - especially if you can close those vents at will. Silent when you want to, loud when you put your foot down.
>>13960502
>wires in your doors
Cars have had speakers and power accessories for over half a century.
>wires in your seats
Cars have had power seats for quite some time.
>wires in your god damned trunklid
Third brake light was mandated at least 20 years ago.
>>13960532
>Fine with CVT's in small hatches and supermini's,
You mean the cars that need manual the most because they have no power?
>>13960686
Again, wrong.
>>13960718
>ur opinions are wrong!!1111111111
laffin tbqh
>>13960718
....are you serious?
>>13960718
He's right though
>>13960686
The only thing wrong here is that Third Brake Lights were mandated some 30 years ago, specifically for the 1986 model year.
>>13960718
About what?
>>13960734
>at least 20 years ago
>happens to be 30
>wrong
Wat? I was just saying it's been a long time.
>>13960824
Small cars with shit power are only made worse with CVTs.
>>13960833
Disregard this I lost track of who was who
>Unkillable electronic nannys
>standard nav/media system that will inevitably fuck up and is really only there because of...
>backup cameras
I want it to stop.
>>13960492
>>13960833
In cars with small engines the manual is still faster than CVT or DSG because of it's ability to launch at higher rpm and slip the clutch if necessary.
Point in case the Ford Fiesta 1.6L.
5spd manual is faster than 6spd DSG.
>>13960841
>winter
>backup camera gets fogged to hell
>no rear visibility
>greenhouse 1990s car works fine
We need to go back
>>13960503
Why so serious
>>13960847
Yeah I goofed and lost track of who was who, I agree with you in that.
>>13960503
whynotboth.jpg
>>13960686
YOU'RE TOO GOOD FOR SPEAKERS IN THE DASHBOARD, HUH
GOTTA HAVE EM IN YER DOORS
>>13960841
>>13960850
I hope manufacturers read this thread instead of the progressive design thread.
>>13960532
>>ABS, ESP and TCS that can't be turned off
>Dear god no
>turning off ABS in a street-going car
Why? So you can flat-spot your tires when hooning to the grocery store?
If it's a car designed for the track only like an x-bow sure, but I have no idea why you have any expectation that manufacturers will allow you to turn off ABS.
>>13960942
>no fun allowed ever
>doesn't know this was a thing on older cars
TCS sucks dick is snow, so does Electronic Stability Control, and when you do want to play on a track or autocross course, threshold braking will give you far better performance than what ABS allows.
>>13960532
Seat belt chimes in general
I drive with my 60lb dog and it NEVER. FUCKING. STOPS.
Seriously fuck off with this shit, a chime for a minute at first maybe but then shut up
>designed to be difficult to tune and upgrade engine
>gigantic low profile wheels
>trunk button doesn't work when not in park
>doors lock when put into reverse
>FUCKING REVERSE
>>13960987
Would there be a way to disconnect the weight sensor so it always reads as an empty seat?
>>13960963
I didn't say anything about ESC and TC, everyone wants to be able to turn those off.
Unless you're amazing at driving, you cannot threshold brake better than ABS.
I see every damn Miata driver get out on the autocross course and inevitably create a smokescreen on at least one corner.
If they had ABS, they wouldn't have flat-spotted their expensive track tires and they wouldn't have locked up their tires prior to the corner.
>Driving a car new enough to have any of these features
Classic DD master race.
>>13961038
Then why did you quote about TC in >>13960942, and what the fuck is ESP if not some stability control thing?
>briefly lock up tires at one point
>somehow ruin them with awful flat spot
And you absolutely can threshold brake better than ABS, race karts for a season or two and you'll have it down.
>>13961052
>want to drive classic DD
>remember every car friend's arch nemesis, rust
>>13961070
Even 2000s/90s cars don't have it, really.
>>13960471
>entertainment centers that will be obsolete within six months
>laggy touchscreens
>touchscreens at all
but worst of all
>navigation systems
YOU CUNTS. I USE MY PHONE. YOUR MAPS ARE OLD AN INNEFICIENT. NOT TO MENTION I LIVE IN A THIRD WORLD SHITHOLE SO HALF THE STREET NAMES ARE OFF.
The world would be better place if cars had a basic infotainment system, every other function a stream from a smartphone. Literally a stream. The phone would do everything, the onboard display being just a controller and display.
>>13960509
Goddamn I fucking hate wrap around headlights and taillights. Why? Why make these stupid huge things? They are so fucking ugly.
>>13961070
I'm moving to Texas for precisely this reason, plus heat and guns.
>>13961087
The desire to better blend in AMERICAN MANDATED SIDE MARKERS with the overall car design.
>>13961090
>implying Texas is good for gun owners
>>13960942
>Why? So you can flat-spot your tires when hooning to the grocery store?
yeah, i'm sure doing a skid is just going to turn my tires into a semi circle
>>13961091
Yes, right. That. How is making a huge, giant headlight that morphs into a side marker cheaper than just drilling an extra hole, running 2 feet of wire, and using much less material for the housing than the giant $1000 headlight assembly?
>>13960471
>Car in neutral
>Won't start if clutch pedal isn't pressed
WTF?
>mfw soon all cars are going to be equipped with all electric everything with touchscreens on the pedals
why live
>>13961095
It's alright overall and Paradise compared to the People's republics of Massachusetts, California, and New York.
>>13961023
How do i look back through an opened door when reversing then?
>>13961108
Is that a problem? In driving school they taught me to always press clutch when starting, just in case.
>>13960471
>have to lift equally with 2 floor jacks to not bend the frame
>4cyl turbo
>"it has v8 power"
>>13960492
anon pls.
>$750 for a new key
>>13961219
>can't tie your car keys to your swimtrunk laces and go swimming with them anymore
>>13960492
I hate these fucking things. I have taken the bumper off my car so many times and it would be 100% easier if they were just screws. Maybe it would take longer but you wouldn't accidentally break them, and have to go to the store with no bumper to buy some clip that may not even work because they don't sell the one you need. Fuck
>>13961225
Do they not have lockers at the pool you go to?
>>13960841
>killable electronic nannies has now become a marketing tool
>more computer screens than cylinders
>>13961218
also if an explanation was needed:
> push too hard, doesn't unscrew, just spins in place and threads get stripped
> don't push hard enough, head strips.
absofuckinglutly nightmare-tier shit here. I usually just broke them on customers cars and replaced them with normal push clips.
>>13961233
'You can turn it off!' he said.
'Yes,' said O'Brien, 'we can turn it off. We have that privilege.'
>drive by wire steering
what happens when it breaks?
>fake engine noises through the stereo
>>13961244
insurance company has to pay for a new car. Company gets more shekels.
Or compnay has to pay dealer for repairs, so company gets more shekles.
Or insurers have an excuse to charge more because lol statistics.
either way the consumer gets jewed.
>>13961243
Ironically, the "deactivated" telescreen still monitors the Inner Party members. All they're doing is silencing the constant party announcements.
>>13960841
Screens make car interiors look 100% worse and 300% harder to use, especially when you are driving. Back up cameras are pretty retarded to, they hardly give you any extra visibility.
>sealed for life transmission
>>13961207
>Is that a problem?
Yes and no. Makes absolutely no sense at all and is completely unnecessary.
>In driving school they taught me to always press clutch when starting, just in case.
Me too but I never do it. What's the point of that? I put the car in neutral and turn the key.
>>13961229
Pools are fucking disgusting, they're full of peoples' hairs and pee. I swim in rivers and lakes.
>>13961256
BUT THEY HAVE GUIDE LINES BECAUSE BEING AWARE OF YOUR CAR'S PROPORTIONS IS OUTDATED AND UNECESSARY THANKS TO THIS $800 OPTION
>touch screen to control everything
>have to take eyes off the road to adjust something as basic as temperature
>diesel engines are so temperature efficient it takes 15 minutes to start blowing warm air if you don't have an engine heater
>>13961256
Backup cameras do give you extra visibility compared to the gun slot back window you get nowadays, but it's visibility you should have out of the window in the first place.
>>13960963
Threshold braking better than ABS? Are you living in the '80's? You cannot physically react to changes faster than ABS. Just from you having posted that I know for sure you've never lived anywhere that actually gets snow.
Fucking edge lords.
>putting urine in your exhaust system to please ecofaggots
>>13961229
>pool
Not that anon but some of us swim in the sea.
>>13961267
>be me
>be driving diesel car in winter
>uncomfortably cold
>warm air finally starts blowing a minute before I arrive at work
>cars without floor trunk latches
>trunk wont open with remote unless car is off
>cadillac converters
>v6 luxury
>>13961194
What
>no oil dipstick
>>13961284
>anything bigger than a 4cyl is marketed as "luxury"
I fucking hate marketers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UlapnsFLhc
>>13961279
>yfw you see motorized trunklids for the first time
>yfw you see a soccer mom wiping around under the bumper with her foot to motion sensor open the trunk for the first time
There's practical, and there's too far. This is just more shit to break.
>25 different proprietary networked computers in your car just waiting to fuck it up
>>13961304
Ive seen this shit, but like not everyones going to have their hands that full to not be able to pull a handle
>>13961214
which 4cyl turbo and which v8?
>>13961263
godspeed anon
imo your probably going to die sooner swimming in a lake than a pool. lakes have all kinds of bacteria.
>>13961064
>And you absolutely can threshold brake better than ABS
No one is saying that you can't. But ABS won't bite in if you threshold brake properly.
>>13961338
You must be from the city
>>13961338
Yeah but at least death bacteria aren't strangers' hairs.
>>13961267
>living in a cold place and not having a block heater for your diesel
>>13961304
>>yfw you see a soccer mom wiping around under the bumper with her foot to motion sensor open the trunk for the first time
>There's practical, and there's too far. This is just more shit to break.
Why would you ever buy a second hand soccer mom car anyway?
>>13961064
>And you absolutely can threshold brake better than ABS, race karts for a season or two and you'll have it down.
Nope. Not on the street you can't. On the track, where the surface is clean, consistent and flat? Sure. But not on the street, where the surface is irregular and contaminated. No way. You just cannot react fast enough to constantly changing surfaces.
>>13961090
Texas is god tier for rust. Unless you are bro trucking through saltwater mud.
>>13961064
>better than ABS
nope. not on the street. not with a regular driver.
shitloads of experience on the same on the same track under the same situation, maybe. on the street - never.
>no ABS for months just to gain skills
>careful on the street, at the limit on the track
>know car very well
>another evening on NBG
>not paying enough attention once, brake too hard, flat spot
How to ruin new tyres in two seconds.
>>13961099
He's talking about locking up your tires under heavy braking, you fucking tard. You want to turn off ABS, and you don't even know what it's for.
>>13961273
>turning abs off in the snow
Of course not you idiot, but on the track it's nice.
>>13961746
tires or wheels?
Abs in the snow is fucking useless
I love how retards here act like they know everything but their posts scream zero driving experience
>>13961352
Depends on the system.
>>13961500
>>13961382
>>13961559
Of course it's for the track you fucking idiots.
>>13961766
This has to be bait or a typo. TCS is useless in snow, but absolutely not ABS.
>>13961774
Abs us snow is about as useful as abs on a dirt bike. In other words useless
>>13960942
>>13960963
>>13961038
>>13961273
>>13961559
>>13961500
>>13961752
>>13961766
>>13961774
Keep it up, great entertainment
>>13961559
Part of our driving training takes place on a really slippery track in cars with and without ABS enabled. I achieved shorter braking distance without ABS. Sure that was 11 years ago, not sure how much it has changed since. Fact is that ABS is meant to allow steering, not improve braking. I prefer ABS with EBD for normal driving, invidual braking force for each wheel is a huge advantage in many situations.
>>13961025
Then your passenger airbag wouldnt deploy and your dog/gf/buddy's head explodes on impact
>>13961274
That isn't a thing people do.
>car is too small
>get in
>can't see shit
I drive a van for work which is up high and good visibility, I ride a motorbike most of the time. Once a week I use my car and fucking enrages me how little I can see around me.
>>13961023
>>trunk button doesn't work when not in park
>>doors lock when put into reverse
why
what fucking car does that
for what fucking purpose
small displacement, high revs, short gears
I blame commies
>non-popups
>automatic EVERYTHING
>le angry face
>Automatic lights FUCKING THESE PIECES OF SHIT IT'S 1PM ON A SUNNY DAY STOP TURNING THE LIGHTS ON WHEN THEY KEY IS OUT OF THE IGNITION YOU'RE DESTROYING MY FUCKING BATTERY
>>13962212
Lawsuits.
Some idiot child made when the mother used a jizzrag for a condom probably saw a hot dog cart while the mother was reversing her hyperprogressive circa-2004 generic minivan into the local megasuperdupershiggymart, jumped out, and in his desperation to shove a warm, greasy meat stick into his throat, got whacked by the doors and went under the 3-seasons old all-year tires. Cue lawsuit, cue giant settlement, cue new retarded safety laws for all cars because nobody who makes cars for these 'people' wants to risk a 30mil+ lawsuit.
>daytime headlights
>different modes ex: Eco, sport, etc
>auto in everything
>"semi auto" bullshit
>7in touch screens in dashes
>plastic covering the motor
>plastic covering the underside
>underpowered motors
>electronics in general
>>13962255
>non-popups
What is this, the '80s?
>>13962274
I wish it was, anon
I wish it was
>>13962279
>it used to be better back in the muh old days
Oh fuck off.
>>13962255
>>Automatic lights FUCKING THESE PIECES OF SHIT IT'S 1PM ON A SUNNY DAY STOP TURNING THE LIGHTS ON WHEN THEY KEY IS OUT OF THE IGNITION YOU'RE DESTROYING MY FUCKING BATTERY
Every time people like you reveal they are idiots. This
A: didn't happen
B: was obviously the result of a malfunction.
>>13962272
>daytime headlights
I'm afraid that if I start driving my low slung two seater without the headlights on at all times, someone in a truck or SUV will eventually overlook and decapitate me.
>>13962290
>malfunction
Just means more money to fix things
>LCD screens for gauges
>massage seats
>Facebook in your car
>anything GM/Chrysler
>>13962285
>muh old days
>was born in the mid 90s
>>13962324
ebin
>>13962290
>malfunction
It's GM so it probably is a malfunction, these fuckers turn on on their own and every time I need to go somewhere the fucking battery is dead
>>13962336
Oh great, even worse, a fucking millenial.
>>13962350
>oh no, he thinks the 80s were better for car design than right now
>He's a degenerate millenial
>>13962359
The '80s were a horrible time for car industry. Now please fuck off and don't reply anymore.
ANNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRY HEADLIGHTS AND GRILLES
fucking
ipads
in
the
fucking
dash
>>13962363
>he wouldn't choose an FC over an RX8
>he'd rather drive an angry jeep over le happy miata
>he supports the pigfat evolution of vehicles
Boomer pls go
>>13962318
There's no pleasing people like you.
>>13962345
So fix them you idiot.
>>13962350
People born in the 80s are millennials (with two Ns, you illiterate boomer), too.
>>13962380
>>13962391
all me
>>13962396
Huh?
>>13962380
If anything a boomer would support driving old cars
>headunit isn't DIN format
>>13962396
nigga u wot
>>13962403
You get the ones that know what they got and then you get the ones that buy a new Buick every other year
>>13962386
It's a Chevy, the only way to fix one of these is a total car replacement
>>13962420
Fucking this.
What, do you think your shitty infotainment screen isn't going to be obselete in 3 years?
>>13962494
>What, do you think your shitty infotainment screen isn't going to be obselete in 3 years?
No. They expect you to buy a new car in 2 years after the warranty finishes.
There is no reason nowadays to buy a new car except for electronic gimmicks. The engine are the same or worse than older ones because of the emissions rules.
>>13962073
that's what adblue is
>>13960471
>ESC when going uphill in winter
>can't be turned off
REEE/10
>>13961095
>tfw in Canada
>tfw it took months just to get registered to take the course I need to pass just to apply to get a gun license
>>13961218
I'm a mechanic at a Hyundai dealer, deal with these all day erry day.
Use a small pick to pull the center piece up while using a screwdriver, makes like so much easier
>>13962612
No, it is not.
>>13962708
but it is, anon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust_fluid
>Diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) is an aqueous urea solution made with 32.5% urea and 67.5% deionized water
>urea
>>13962714
>not knowing about synthesized urea
>not knowing it is merely one of many compounds found in urine
dude, people put urea on their skin in cream form. it's just a compound of nitrogen.
>>13962754
Doesn't change the fact that it's found in piss.
>>13962714
>but it is, anon
It is not.
>Diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) is an aqueous urea solution made with 32.5% urea and 67.5% deionized water
>urea
Jesus Christ, you can't be this dumb can you?
>>13962760
Water is found in piss, too. Better not put it in your car.
>ITT: Luddites
>>13962777
joke's on you friend
nice trips
>>13962786
My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!
>>13960942
>tfw 2012 car with no ABS
I mean I only realized because I was reading the service manual, and because I break gradually, making adjusters as needed, like every non retard person, guess some people are so bad at breaking they need that crutch.
Next you'll say automatic is better because it's more convenient and you need less skill and not pay as much attention to driving.
>>13962800
You're a moron.
>>13962805
Quite the silver tongue and speech skills you got there. Almost par to your driving skills, I bet.
>massive fucking catfish mouth grilles
Does anyone actually, truly think this looks good? I can stand ANNNNGGGGGGRRRRRYYYY HEADLIGHTS but jesus fucking christ the gaping fish mouth grilles are absolutely fucking disgusting.
![[anger intensifies].gif](https://i.imgur.com/fVVpSqe.gif "[anger intensifies].gif")
>>13962832
>less than 50 mpg
>>13960492
There are at least 6 parts with at least 10 of these per part holding them on. I wish I had known that before I tore it apart to paint it
>Ended up drilling out over half of them
>Little black dots everywhere because the paint simply wont stick to them
>Tons of little holes because I don't want to buy new ones
Shoulda left the fucking thing in 1 piece and painted it that way.
>>13962876
Have you tried sanding and priming them first?
>>13960850
>Some retard runs of over "muh chillin" in the winter
>Blames camera being fogged as reason
>Backup cameras are now legally required to have anti-fogging technology or dedicated defrosters THAT HAVE TO WORK TO PASS SAFETY OH GOD THING OF THE CHILLIN
>>13961218
How's that shit called? I need 3 for my bike.
>>13961083
Apple car play and the android equivalent do this already.
>>13962786
This has to be bait.
>>13962800
Electronic aids were standardized in 2011 in the U.S.
>>13962800
>I think ABS is only for people who can't drive!
Right. Because you have four brake pedals, and modulate every single one as you turn a car while braking and avoiding obstacles.
And you somehow got a car without something that's been standard for quite a long while in most grades of car.
Do you even have a licence?
>>13963298
> doc you even have a license
Says the spastic who thinks you need to be able to control the brakes of each corner to be able to stop property
You realize cars without abs exist right? And a lot of race cars, mainly older formula karts don't either, rught?
But you can't stop properly without abs unless you're an octopus and have four brake pedals huur fucking duur
Get the fuck out retard. Come back when you have experience driving something other than your mothers ford focus
if you actually think abs is a necessity to avoid accidents and obstacles you have NO PLACE on the road end of fucking story
>>13963372
ABS is a net improvement in safety. You aren't as good as you think you are, and the average driver can barely shift from neutral to gear, so you need to get over yourself, Mr. Senna, and act like an adult.
>>13960492
I have a ton of those in my box and my brand barely even used them, even just working on occasional trade ins I would end up destroying half of them pulling off underbody covers. Audi and BMW are definitely the worst offenders for using garbage plastic clips everywhere.
>>13963464
I'm a good enough driver that abs isn't going to make the difference between getting in an accident or not
Maybe you should learn to drive instead of just ham footing the brake pedal, abs isn't going to save retards from being retards
>tfw I just wanted to bitch about not being able to turn ABS off for the track and it spawned this madness
>>13963508
>I'm a good enough driver that abs isn't going to make the difference between getting in an accident or not
No you are not. See >>13961500
>>13963298
A lot of pre OBD cars didn't come with driver' aids like TCS and ABS. Mine doesn't even have airbags and it's from 87
>>13963529
That's because airbags weren't mandatory until 1996.
>>13961090
>steel body panels
its 2015 cmon
>>13963628
Your mom wasn't mandatory until I fucked her
>>13960471
materials other than metal and rubber on the engine bay
glass roofs
launch control
automatic parking
+15" wheels on cars
onstar
>>13960503
This. I miss the indifferent faces of the 90's
>go to indicate
>makes a beeping noise instead of the usual "tick tick tick"
I'm not one of those people who hate change but damn that shit is annoying and gets old really quick.
>>13963989
I guess they finally moved away from relays or imitation clicking.
>T-tops are gone forever
>>13960492
these have been around for over 20 years though
>>13964674
Not gone yet
>>13964634
my 07 Cobalt has silent turn signals and it bugs the shit out of me because they don't always shut off in a turn.
>>13965503
kek that's not even a production car somebody put an aftermarket T-top and shitted up a camero.
>>13962160
My friend bought an Avenger a couple years ago and I've driven it several times. It's a smooth ride but I can barely see anything around me because of the awkward angular design and fairly small windows. I guess I got used to my Saturn SL2 and now Civic both having pretty good visibility all around, besides the fact that they're both low to the ground.
![toyota-rav4-07[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XrvuIgZ.jpg "toyota-rav4-07[1].jpg")
>>13962832
Well with modern aerodynamics and safety cars will either have one huge grill or 19 small ones. I personally like one big one instead of this mess.
>>13960841
>backup cameras
son reverse cameras are literally the greatest thing since sliced bread.
>no 'traction control off' button
>>13965725
Why would you even need one? What's the point?
>>13965786
They make it easier to reverse properly, especially for larger cars.
They make it easier to reverse properly if you have a full luggage compartment and you can't see whats directly behind
They make it WAY easier to hook up trailers, especially when its a fully-loaded two tonne trailer full with music equipment that you have no chance of pulling around yourself, so you'll need to park perfectly with the ball beneath the mounting
>>13965786
To run over things that aren't tall enough to see. Like kids and shit.
>>13960471
buttons to make your car nicer to drive inside are too small to read or to fiddly (if you are new to cars) or break easily
>>13965813
I still say it's bullshit. I drove a 3rd gen daily and reversed without a problem and central mirror was not an option. FFS I never had problems even in twisty narrov alleys traditionally found in any old european town. Guess some people just can't into reverse.
>>13965818
That's the only good argument for them I ever heard.
>>13965830
old shit box from the 80s
all controls are in arms reach
every button has its own shape and size
air conditioning control is just three levers
>>13961108
Grow a pair.
It's too save the kids that accidently start mommy and daddy's car in drive way
>>13965918
>Grow a pair.
Where did that come from? Projecting much?
If the parents are dumb/irresponsible to let such a thing happen it's better if the kid crashes and dies. At least that way retard genes will be removed from the gene pool.
>>13965899
And I wasn't saying that not having one - I was merely saying that having one tends to make shit easier
>>13965982
There is nothing to make easier. That was my point. It's completely unnecessary.
>>13965967
And ruin little billys hopes of putting the vroom vrooms in drivers seat? Dream killer.
I meant you must be a pretty limp dick to not have the energy to push the clutch in for a couple extra seconds. Do me a favor and take out the position sensor. Then you can start your car all willy nilly. Especially after parking in gear!
>>13966022
>limp dick to not have the energy to push the clutch in for a couple extra seconds
Insults don't make you right.
>Then you can start your car all willy nilly. Especially after parking in gear!
I always park in gear and start in neutral. Been doing that for 20 years now with absolutely no problem.
Maybe you won't need mentally handicapped enabled transmissions when you learn how to drive.
>>13961108
>clutch interlock bypass
>every god damn automaker's answer to safety is ear-height sills and fuckhueg pillars
>>13966045
>muh20yrs xp
Back to clinic for the Viagra, Grandpa.
Ok, so you have good driving habits; be free and customize your own car by disabling the clutch sensor, quit your bitchin.
Tbh, there have been multiple deaths recently that have been tied to faulty position sensors and cats being started in gear. A house fixing show, don't remember the name, actually caught it on camera when the guy started his newly gifted jeep and didn't realize it was in gear. Nearly killed his wife.
>>13964674
T-tops are shit.
>>13966061
>Back to clinic for the Viagra, Grandpa.
>Grandpa
I'm 32, bitch.
I don't need no bloody sensor to see if I'm in gear and I'm not absent minded enough to 'accidentally' run over my wife. If I do that, it'll be on purpose.
>>13966577
>I don't need no bloody sensor to see if I'm in gear
It isn't for you, it's for the computer.
>>13966580
I don't need no bloody computer to decide whether I'm allowed to start the fucking car.
>>13966591
Too bad.
>CAPACITIVE
>FUCKING
>BUTTONS
Seriously, fuck off. There's absolutely no way to tell if you've "pressed" it or not, unless you're looking at it, which means taking your eyes off the road and risking getting hit by a texting soccermom in her SUV.
>>13966758
> There's absolutely no way to tell if you've "pressed" it or not
This can be solved with haptic feedback.
>>13966762
A nice tactile click is far more satisfying to me.
>>13966769
So? That's not an objective issue. The world doesn't cater to you.
>>13966787
>That's not an objective issue.
see
>>13966758
>There's absolutely no way to tell if you've "pressed" it or not, unless you're looking at it, which means taking your eyes off the road and risking getting hit by a texting soccermom in her SUV.
>>13966798
see>>13966762
No one cares about your desire for mechanical buttons. The capacitive buttons are more reliable, cheaper to manufacture, and easier to design into something.
>>13966838
Try memorizing the exact placement of every button on a huge screen like a Model S so you don't have to take your eyes off the wheel to hit it like you can a regular button.
Stop being retarded and thinking that newer is always better. Ford added physical switches into MFT because people were bitching about this exact thing guy.
>>13966842
>Try memorizing the exact placement of every button on a huge screen like a Model S
A touch screen is not a button. Capacitive buttons don't change position.
>Stop being retarded and thinking that newer is always better.
No, the retarded one here is you. You can't seem to comprehend that capacitive buttons have huge advantages and their one disadvantage is easily fixed.
>>13961083
Every new Chevy...
>>13961273
Umm, no. 4 channel ABS is pretty good, but sometimes it's too sensitive and using the fucking e-brake stops cars faster. Also, light FWD cars are far better to drive with no ABS in the snow. Tell me how I'm supposed to left foot brake or flick when the ABS ruins all the fun?
>Nu86 is roughly 2000 pounds heavier than the hachiroku, producing only 200 horsepower at 2800lbs
>>13966950
>Nu86 is roughly 2000 pounds heavier than the hachiroku, producing only 200 horsepower at 2800lbs
Really? An E80 Corolla weighs 800lbs?
>>13961083
That's a planned feature with new Skodas and VW's, I think. However if I recall correctly, it is not going to be compatible with android at first.
>>13966957
The JDM AE86 weighs around 2200 pounds. At least, that's what my 1985 World Cars book says.
>>13966950
jesus christ that's wrong anon
>>13961229
>going to the pool instead of the beach
>>>/lgbt/
>>13960734
My 87 has no third light.
>>13966950
more like 200lbs heavier
>>13960841
>worked at uhaul
>every fucker with a pickup truck tried to use the camera to line up the hitch ball with the trailer.
>one guy in particular
>guy starts backing up
>is like 2 feet off
>moves forwards
>starts backing up again
> chucklefuck doesn't understand how reverse image works
>is now 3 feet off
>goes forwards
>goes backwards too far the other way now
>gets out of the truck
>looks at the hitch and trailer
>looks at me
>gets back in the truck and just backs up normally while I direct him
>gets it in one try.
from what I've seen, if you can't back a vehicle up without a camera, a camera isn't going to help you at all. It's just a marketing ploy for stay at home moms.
>>13962844
the s-fr could have actually been a pretty good looking car if they hadn't put those stupid "angry eyes" and mouth-breather front grille on it.
It's a small sports car with a small 4 cylinder engine and soft round body lines, not some tire-scorching roided out muscle car with a snarling V8 engine. Why try to make it look menacing and intimidating? It's like people who X out the headlights on their Miata, who are you trying to fool?
>>13969454
Is it a truck? Passenger cars were required to have it in 86, but not trucks/vans until 94.
>>13969553
Well, it is called the S-FR
Sad
Frog
REEEEEEEEEE
>>13969553
Someone needs to mod it to look like this.
>all this FWD biased "AWD" with toothpick sized driveshafts and the smallest diffs ever made
>CVTs
>le angry face
>splashguards fucking everywhere
>electronic rust modules thay do fucking nothing and people think will protect their cars from rust in canadian winters
>"Sport" Mode in a CVT Nissan Rogue
>super annoying seatbelt reminders
>all these weird molded overly ergonomic steering wheels
>paddle shifters on CVT cars
>plastic cover in the engine bay covering shit like a coolant tank
Man I could go on all night
>>13969602
>over 10,000 hours in paint
![toyota-s-fr-concept-2015-tokyo-motor-show_100530032_h[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/duIZqBD.jpg "toyota-s-fr-concept-2015-tokyo-motor-show_100530032_h[1].jpg")
>>13969862
But that just makes it look angry, like the original.
>pic related
>>13960479
Sorry, the year is 1982 and you will be embracing the future soon enough.
>>13964674
Fucking this. Muh 4th gen f-body
>>13969808
> toothpick sized driveshafts and the smallest diffs ever made
That's not new, Jeep has been doing this forever.
>>13969894
a little bit, more just from the slightly mis-matched perspectives from my shitty photoshop job. Stole the headlights off an F-type, which does the "long headlight" look perfect imo. Doesn't look angry and doesn't look squinty either.
More just wanted to see what something less bug-eyed looked like on it.
>>13966762
Mechanical buttons have haptic feedback. A vibrating or clicking capacitive touch button is a solution to a problem that does not exist.
>>13966838
>The capacitive buttons are more reliable
>>13969553
>>13961109
Solution, hold on to pre-1990s cars for dear life.
>>13969987
Are you really this dumb?
>>13962527
Let's just stop buying new cars and cling to our shit boxes anon. There is no reason to be loyal to any car brand anymore, all the good ones are dead and the rest would be better off dead.
>>13960502
>gooks in the wire
>>13962826
>>13970083
You're the dumb one here, anon. Capacitive touch buttons are easily fouled or rendered inoperable with a mildly wet finger, plus they are soft buttons, and thus are interpreted by circuitry instead of being binary. A mechanical button can have a life of hundreds of thousands of cycles, and can be easily sealed so that it cannot be fouled or shorted closed.
Question: if soft buttons such as capacitive touch buttons were superior in reliability and haptics, why are they completely unheard of in the aviation industry, where haptics and reliability are of the utmost importance?
>fuel injection
>electronic ignition
>muh sensors
>>13970013
Saved. Looks so much better, even though the headlight on the other side is still scowling.
>>13970013
That's worse to be quite honest family
>wireless keys that can only be programmed by the dealership and require a special snowflake battery. Cost around $1500 to replace.
>>13970357
To be clear I mean $1500 to replace the entire key and get a new one programmed, not $1500 to replace the battery.
