What's up /o/, My turbo blew awhile back and I finally have the cash to get a new one.
I have the choice of spending $400 on a used garrett S14 GT28 with steel braided lines from a known trusted seller, Or I can get the S15 GT28r with about 50 more hp for $830 brand new.
Which one would you go with? Buying used turbos is pretty sketch but he sells quality parts.
>pic related it's the used turbo, he says ''minimal play'' and there's no scrapes on the inside of the housing or anything.
>>13954719
hmm id prolly go with the new one, you never know what ur gonna get online
Get the one that means you don't need to pay for a retune...
>>13954778
I don't need a retune for either one, I already have a fuel management tune.
>>13954719
stay away from the ball bearing turbo.
>>13954719
$430 for 50 bhp.
imagine any shitbox that comes with different engines. imagine what the price difference will be if you'd take a version with 50hp more.
that's right. that will result in a price difference far greater than 400$.
in short: 50 hp for 430$ is a good buy.
>>13954812
Why? BB Spools quicker.
>>13954829
because in order for a bb turbo to do that spooling up they put a restrictor in the oil feed to cut the amount of oil going to the bearing pack.
there's more problems with oil carboning up in side the turbo due to excess heat because of the lack of oil cooling which is why you'll find all bb turbos are also water cooled
>>13954828
Not to mention getting a new part vs previously enjoyed. No wear vs unknown amount of wear. The choice seems simple to me.
>>13954719
Those compressor blades look a little ragged like he ran it with poor filtration, I wouldn't ever buy a used turbo
>>13954719
>garrett S14 GT28
>$400 used
Holy shit nigga that's a crazy price for that tiny ass turbo. I bought a perfectly usable 60 trim T3 off of an SVO mustang for $80. About the same flow capability.
>>13954719
>blew
How? Physical damage or just blown out seals? You can buy a rebuild kit and DIY for less than $100. I've done this many times. I occasionally buy junkyard or smoking turbos, rebuild them, and re-sell them for ~3x the price.
look for shaft play and make sure there is no side fumbling
>>13956332
some compressor damage on the old turbo but the housing could still be used, The seals blew and I had to putt it home with the boost off.
I literally bought everything this morning for the GT28r then got sketched and cancelled the order. I can't justify spending all that on the GT28r when there's no warranty or rebuild on them..
>>13956337
It's being sold online but the seller has tons of good feedback and I'm pretty sure he's the owner of one of the most popular import market websites in the states, he seems pretty legit.
>pic related it's my old turbo
s15 turbos are basically the ultimate inexpensive street setup on the sr20
plus brand new so peace of mind.
buy a big ass holset instead.
but from those two choices just grab the $400 one. Spensive but no reason to blow huge money on a brand new turbo unless you're going to go big.
If new, BorgWarner EFR series. No substitutes.
>>13957040
I'm trying to run a no lag, High torque setup for street / track
>webm related
>>13954719
Turbos are a wear item. If you plan on keeping the car for a few years I'd definitely buy a new one.
>>13957078
Do ricers realize how ridiculous drifting looks/is?
fastest 240sx I've ever been in had a .64 disco potato, hks step 2 264 cams and a stock bottom end. That fucking thing was retarded quick, and it was instant on power. It made 300 before cams and 320 afterwards on 1 bar. Eventually made 350 after more dyno fiddling and an increase to 1.2 bar
>>13957092
No, they don't.
It's hilarious how much money they spend just to do a skid.
>>13957171
yes, they do.
>>13957092
I could care less what ricers think, because they have nothing to do with drifting.
>>13957129
I'd like a disco potato but I just got an enthalpy tune, I'd have to get a retune for the disco potato, It's a possiblity.
>>13957171
That webm needs some yakety sax music playing in the background and it would be perfect
drifting is retarded and easy.
it just looks 'sick' and 'tight' to normies.
>>13957208
i just played it in the background and it was hilarious
>muh 30mph burnout in my hobbled together car with no suspension
fucking cancer
>>13957229
serious question. are you actually retarded?
>>13957256
No, I just know what I'm talking about so it's extremely foreign to you.
>>13957281
>I just know what I'm talking about
>thinks drift cars have no suspension
if you knew what you were talking about, youd realize that suspension and diff are the 2 most important things
>>13954719
get the new one. but the important question is what car you are going to put it in. hopefully, you are smart, and are mating it to the n/a engine of your proudly owned, 1998 mazda miata.
>>13957310
Yeah a suspension that doesn't do anything (too stiff no travel too low) and a diff that doesn't do anything (locked) are both important.
I can already see that these concepts are way above your knowledge level so we might as well stop now.
>>13957281
And yet your retarded ass thinks oversteer is a burnout
>>13957336
If they weren't trying to do burnouts they wouldn't have locked diffs. You have clubbed fingers don't you?
>>13957335
Suspension Loke that is suited to kind of driving being done so tell me it doesn't do anything nigger fucking really
And since when did stiff suspension mean no suspension? You're literally retarded and have zero idea what you're talking about
Keep throwing meaningless words around though
>>13957335
>the 2 most important things that do almost everything arent important and do nothing at all!
get a load of this retard
>>13957329
hahaha good one, love it
driftfags literally on suicide watch
>>13957346
Very few cars run with locked diffs
Why do you insist on spewing shit?
Clubbed fingers wtf. No reason to bring something like that up unless you're projecting about your own fingers
>>13957375
Retarded spewing shit and getting called out going full damage control mode
>>13957368
you just have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a differential is, what it's designed to do, and why it does it. likewise for suspension.
not really my fault. like I said i know what im talking about and you have no clue, so it's expected that this would shock you.
>>13957379
>Very few cars run with locked diffs
Is this a joke? LOL
Almost all actual drift cars are spooled you child.
>>13957393
How about you explain how lowered suspension that is stiffer than the shitty old saggy stock shit is bad for drifting? Surely you would have explained why instead of just saying ITS BAD and throwing insults around like a clueless 12 year old?
>>13957217
>>13957256
>>13957281
>>13957336
>>13957375
>>13957386
Relax guys it's just my hobby, Not yours. It isn't even that expensive... I just do it for fun.
>>13957397
Sorry misunderstood your retarded ass post and assumed you meant welded as no one with a working brain would mention locked diffs in a negative way
>>13957403
I didn't say it was bad for drifting. It's good for drifting.
>>13957412
Locked diffs are shit.. if your goal is performance.
But drifting isn't about performance so it works out perfectly.
1. go to junk yard
2. find a truck with a huge turbo engine
3. put the turbo in your pants and walk out
4. go home and install your huge, free turbo
>>13957421
trolls be wildin
>>13957412
>no one with a working brain would mention locked diffs in a negative way
except that locked diffs are fucking garbage??
>>13957414
then why the fuck are you spouting off about them not doing anything?
Holy shit.. drift kids actually believe locked differentials are for performance. Fucking LOL.
>>13957429
This. Just steal one off of a turbo diesel truck
>>13957431
What are off road vehicles
>>13957442
And retards think lowered and stiffer suspension over stock 30 year old floppy cheese suspension "does nothing"
>>13957446
sr20's with huge turbos drive like garbage
>>13957453
offroad vehicles dont have spooled diffs bud.
they have electronic/air lockers because even a redneck knows a locked diff on asphalt is fucking horrible.
rednecks officially smarter than drift teens.
a drift car with a 9" and an air locker would be kind of cool, but god forbid driftkiddies actually spend money on real parts. no no, it's much easier to hobble some shit car together with ebay parts. and honestly i agree, if all you're doing is skids then why spend money. but don't pretend that it's something it's not.
>>13957454
Why? How are they any different from other big turbo 4 cyl?
>>13957471
Most drift kiddies like to are trying to describe don't run locked diffs
Locked diffs are pretty much exclusively on dedicated drift vehicles that are trailered everywhere. Drift kiddies will weld theirs before they buy a locked diff
>>13957481
Most big turbo small displacement setups are pretty crap from light to light around town, I just singled out sr's because of OP
>>13954719
buy the new one. you can have turbos rebuilt, and housings enlaged to take bigger pinwheels and also more air and port the holes for more power. thats if you dont want to fork out for a new or used (and probally hammered) turbo
Thanks for the replies, I'll probably just go with the GT28r and hope it lasts.
I've always been the worst with decisions like these, It's nice to get everyones input. Here's what it's going in.
>>13957092
>ricers
>implying ricers drift
Have you ever drifted though? It's fun as hell. Come on, you're a redneck, you must have slid your shitbox around on some dirt roads before. I used to slide my pickup around on the dirt roads I live near all the time.
>>13957196
watch this webm with the benny hill music going through your head...
>>13954719
>Considering an $800 turbo
>Not getting a BW S200SXE 7163 or 7670
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>13957481
they take forever to spool
>>13958512
see
>>13957078
>>13957078
and
>>13957454
I'm looking for high torque and a quick spool, no sense in buying a big turbo if it hits full boost at 5500...
>>13958618
I think you're probably retarded. Those are small turbos known for their fast spool. It's not like I told you to buy an S366 or 9180.
>>13958718
>turbos known for their fast spool
That's why no one has ever heard of them, I'd rather not buy ebay junk.
>>13958845
>No one has ever heard of Borg Warner
Maybe you should stop shopping on EBay and you'll get some experience with real brands.
>>13958924
I only buy real parts no knockoffs, You get more for your money in the long run.
You'll learn this when you have to buy parts some day.
>>13959167
Most Euro cars would have a Borg Warner
KKK / 3K however it's said is owned by B/W
they are not an unknown
>>13958924
>>13959167
I can't tell who's trolling who at this point. BorgWarner has been around for over 200 years, and they make the T5 and T56 transmissions that are used in fucking everything, in addition to being a fairly large supplier of OEM turbos, and their EFR line of turbochargers are specified for the IndyCar series.
