Where were you when BR-Z BTFO by its own brother?
>>13948160
Inb4
>but muh driving feels
Are you tarded?
The BRZ was never supposed to be a fast car thats why it has the wheels off a toyota hybrid on it, they are glorified skid pigs nothing else, if anything it is sad that the wrx is only 3 seconds faster than it, if you put 2 inch wider tyres on the BRZ it would more than make that time back.
>>13948160
the wrx is probably 2nd hand aswell
>>13948172
>skinny prius tires mean skid pig
Brz fags really are delusional.
Face it. The toyobaru is the new early 2000's mustang.
>>13948160
They're made for different people, fuckwit
BMW 335d m sport
0-60 in 4.8 seconds
Regarded as best handling in class.
Mpg's.
Are numbers everything?
>>13948210
i dont even like then i just remember top gear making that exact point before the cars came out.
>>13948210
Yeah but the early 2000s mustangs had 60 more horsepower and a larger aftermarket.
>>13948160
I mean everybody knows this, I'd just rather have the BRZ.
>>13948455
>also 152 more lb/ft of torque!
>>13948975
>implying 152 more lb/ft of torque is negligible
>>13948206
yeah, they don't make these wrx hatches anymore so your post is pointless
>>13949703
>Implying it isn't
Fuck this thread for making me think I missed a WRX hatch announcement.
>>13948160
Everyone realizes the BR-Z is shit at this point.
>>13949733
>has no argument
>HURRRRR DURRRRRRRRR IMPLYING
0/10 if bait
3/10 if serious
>>13949703
it is
>>13948160
FRS OR A BRZ
IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER THEY'RE THE SAME TO ME
I WOULDNT WANT
A WRX
ID RATHER BE HAVING SEX
IN MY HONDA CIVIC
CIVIC
YOU HEAR ME
CIVIC
1991 tru 1995
CIVIC
JEAH!
CIVIC
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Get choo some
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Civic.
>>13948160
subies wrx are hard to find and rare as fuck in my area
i always smile and admire when i see one driving
I like my BRZ. Pls no bully.
>>13949878
>implying you have an argument either
>>13949733
It's literally the entire BRZ torque output
>>13950072
Me too bro
Me too
Fuel economy and fun put the wrx in the same class as the brz Imo. Relating the brz to the mustang speaks volumes. You can pick up an early 00 mustang for 2 Grand and be faster than a lot of enthusiasts
>>13948160
3 seconds isn't a lot considering it is AWD vs RWD on a ~1:30 second lap. Now, if you added 50 hp to the BRZ through simple bolt ons, you'd have a different story entirely.
>inb4 you'd pay more to go faster in the BRZ
Impreza lost its heritage back in 2006.
>>13948160
So is the 65hp worth adding 461lbs?
>>13948160
I'm almost inclined to agree with you. However when I look at your specs you've posted, I realize that the same thing always happens.
Take the RSX-S for example, has nearly the same specs as the BRZ (swap RWD for FWD, obviously). They're not much different, in fact the BRZ is cheaper than when the RSX-S came out; ~29k for the RSX-S vs your posted 26k for the BRZ.
Anyway, if we compare the RSX-S to (I chose a 2004) STi (no, not just a WRX either) of the same era, the STi was around 29-31 thousand. However the differences are nearly the same as they are with the BRZ vs WRX in this era.
My point in all this is, they're different cars, aimed at doing different, yet similar things in slightly different yet similar ways. The "problem" with the BRZ compared to the WRX isn't a new problem for auto makers. The only difference here is that a Subaru badge is on both of them, at least on the front, back, steering wheel and engine, along with a few hundred Toyota badges stamped onto the rest of the parts.
TL;DR
This shit happens all the time. RSX-S was the BRZ of it's time and cost the same as an STi of the same time period. People don't always need to buy the fastest car.
>>13950290
100lbs of torque is. And the HP gains too, depending what you want from the car. And a ton of that weight if from the AWD.
That being said, they are two completely different cars that shouldn't be compared. I am suprised that the WRX is only $400 more tho. I always though an optioned Toyobaru was mid to high 20's while a WRX would be at least $30k with a couple good options.