How do I build a brotruck /o/? Won't be off roading and using as my DD. Performance mods too. Pic related.
1) get lift kit
2) put ebin grill on there X----DDD
3) put ebin dragon in tail gate (optional)
>>13947484
It's your truck but honestly, don't black out your lights.
Also, I wouldn't lift it anymore than a leveling kit.
And for the love of god, no fender flares, it just makes the truck look cheap and shitty.
>>13947498
that only makes sense for a girl's truck
>>13947498
Get it straight piped though, that's pretty cool.
Also, don't do the LED lightbar in the grill, get a sweet roll bar or something and get a bunch of Hella's
>>13947498
Why forego the lift?
Was thinking 4"
>>13947493
Forgot something m8
4)shitpost about it on /o/ with just one image
>>13947519
OK when it's ready you will all see. I don't have a fur coat onesie though
>>13947512
Unless you slap some huge tires on it, you gain hardly any extra true ground clearance. In short, it puts the least amount of stress on suspension components for the most visual improvement. It also will help with departure angles if you do take it offroad. Pretty much it's the best bang for your buck for a mallcrawler. Then again, it's your truck, do as you please with it.
Pic sort of related to what i was talking about
>>13947532
That's about as much as I'd ever lift a truck
>>13947532
OK thanks. Planning on 305/55r20. I shouldn't have rubbing with a level kit eh?
>>13947544
Can't say for certain because it all depends on your model/year. Turn your wheel all the way in one direction and see how much room you have. For every centimeter of room, you can go up a size like 285, 295, 305, 315 etc
>>13947559
I do a lot of highway driving and I don't want to fuck up my front end if I punt a deer. Would you suggest a bull bar or replacement bumper? Will I lose a tonne of fuel economy with the weight of a bumper?
>>13947592
Yeah you could probably get a bull bar. Trust me, your truck already weighs over two tons, it won't hardly notice something like that.
This works well with some very tight beam spotlights on the roll bar. They'll allow you to see a pair of deer eyes from very far away. A LED bar will just flood the area 100 ft infront of you.
>>13947612
Spotlights for length and light bar for width. What kind of brand?
>>13947661
That's a combo that works too haha. I've always been partial to KC and Hella
>>13947694
What brand of bull bar? Are the ones made of tubing just for looks?
Appreciate the help bud.
>>13947528
posting money pictures will do instead
>>13947730
Honestly I don't know, I've never seriously looked in to getting one. I'd probably pick one that weighs a lot. Thin tubing won't really do a whole lot against a big buck
No problem
>>13947741
Damn I have a bank account
>>13947484
>wont' be offroading
Just write "I'm a massive faggot" on the side and you'll be just as brotruck as the lifted fagtrucks in this thread.
>>13951981
Nothing wrong with being gay anon
>>13952122
everything wrong with being a fag you fucking faggot
>>13947532
Generally speaking, (good) lift kits do not have any noteworthy affect on suspension component wear, and do not give any axle to ground clearance. Tires alone are responsible for both of those, with the lift making room for larger tires. There's also wheel width, offset, etc. to take into account for wear but all you really need to know is don't poke the tires out too far. All else equal, 3/4 ton and 1 ton suspension will hold up notably better than a 1/2 ton under the same conditions.
A true leveling kit will hurt departure angle, not improve it.
Also, that pic is at least a 4" lift.
>>13947730
What most people are referring to when they bring up bull bars are only for aesthetics or light mounting. Grill guards (especially ones with winch mounts) are usually a bit more sturdy but a full replacement bumper is the best option if you're really looking for protection.
Brotruck recipe:
>Lift Kit
Essential. Without it you simply cant have a "bro" truck.
>Fat tires
For traversing mall parking lots with out fear.
>Riveted Wheels
You know, generally black wheels, must have the screws/rivets on them.
>Light Bar
Gotta make sure you can see the highway when driving, and ya know, blind every other fucking motorist.
what is the year/make/model of your truck OP?
>>13947493
And truck nuts
>>13947773
Haha i jej'd
>>13952600
2010 silverado 1500 LTZ
Get a 6" Rough Country lift, 20x9 chrome XD rockstars, cheap ass mud terrains, bushwacker plastic fender flares (not colormatched), light off of ebay that you won't even wire up, a completely useless bull bar, sawed off exhaust, and massive costa and yeti stickers on the back glass. I don't know if it can get more brotruck than this.
Make sure to use blocks, because your just doing it for looks.
>>13952622
generally speaking, you should have no problem fitting a 305/55R20 with a leveling kit but you will have to do some research to find out what kind of wheel dimensions will work. you may need lower offset than stock to compensate for the wider tire and prevent rubbing against the suspension components, but at the same time you will have to make sure you're not pushing it out to the point where it will rub your inner fender when you turn the wheel.
>>13947508
>Get it straight piped though, that's pretty cool.
No, it's fucking annoying. This is coming from a guy with a tasteful, mostly stock looking diesel truck that is tuned to make ~500whp, I welded up a new exhaust system that has 3 straight through mufflers because I fucking hate listening to all of these faggot brotruckers going WOT from every light with their straight pipes, diesel or gasoline.
>>13952568
How bad is a levelling kit for cv angles?
>>13952659
OK thanks
>>13952688
hardly if anything. Although note stock the CVs will be level and ANY lift is going to throw them out of level which will equate to excessive boot wear over time. Do you have a 4 wheel drive?
>>13952568
Any shock/coil over replacement that is within exact specs to stock is going to cause no change to wear. How could it?
>>13952659
>any tire size on a 20in wheel
massive faggotree and getting laughed at.jpg
>>13952675
That's part of the brotruck part he wants. He wants everyone to know that he's an absolute fuck, or else he would ask how to tastefully modify a truck
>>13952719
Yeah I have 4x4. I'm at work otherwise I'd just put up a picture
>>13952594
>>Lift Kit
>Essential. Without it you simply cant have a "bro" truck.
Not necessarily
>>13952747
>if i raise the front end does that make it a "prerunner"
>spacers to simulate wider control arms
>>13952739
On my truck it's generally agreed >3" of lift means you want a differential drop, but even then, the differential drop kits are really full of their own issues. I'd say check out a specific enthusiast forum for your truck and get their input on that specifically. Each vehicle is a little different.
>>13952719
>Although note stock the CVs will be level and ANY lift is going to throw them out of level
Wrong
A real lift kit will drop the entire front driveline, and will retain correct CV angles, it's when people get coil spacers or turn their torsion keys up that you get incorrect angles.
>>13952729
this, everyone knows it's all about 22s or better
>>13952778
this is correct, I lifted the front of my truck with coilovers and got a torn CV boot at 15k miles. joke's on me.
>>13952778
>a real lift kit
No it won't. On independent front suspension with 4WD the most common lifting method aside from spacers of ANY sort is using coilovers with adjustable springs. This lifting method does essentially the same thing as spacers by reducing downtravel (which in IFS can only be fixed by widening the arms/front-end track) and pushing the hub lower than the differential.
faggot.
>>13952800
>buying a Ford
>implying that isn't why the boot ripped
>>13952801
>. On independent front suspension with 4WD the most common lifting method aside from spacers of ANY sort is using coilovers with adjustable springs
Except it's not because for about the same price as coilovers, you can get a drop bracket lift kit, which provides way more lift, which is all a lot of bro truckers care about
>>13952813
>implying anything I said is wrong
A drop bracket isn't a "real lift kit" fag, it's a way of realigning the CV angles by dropping the differential even lower below the frame.
>>13952801
That's why I said a real lift you fucking idiot.
The kind that has drop brackets for the entire front axle.
>>13952832
>implying a drop bracket is a lift kit
Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. Ok.
>>13952675
Get flowmaster mufflers, they are the shit
>>13952841
>drops the entire suspension instead of reducing the amount of travel with just taller coils
>isn't a real lift
You sound like the type that thinks cutting springs is a lowering kit.
>>13952841
>implying that there's drop bracket lift kits out there that don't include the spacer or longer coilover required to lift the truck
>>13952857
>implying you aren't still cranking the coils up to lower the arms
>taller coils reducing travel
>IFS travel isn't directly related to width and usage of uniball upper arms
wow you literally don't know what you're talking about
>>13952568
>pic sort of related
>>13952675
Maybe I'm just biased because my truck is straight piped and it is actually still quite quiet.
>>13952876
From your own post
>>13952801
>This lifting method does essentially the same thing as spacers by reducing downtravel
Keep going, I'm interested to see what you'll say next.
OP here, I think I'll just a skyjacker 3" or BDS 4" suspension lift instead. I don't mind spending some cash. I won't need a diff drop with that will I? CV angles should be retained in that case?
Pic related is apparently 4" BDS
>>13952888
The BDS is a drop bracket lift m8
Pic directly related
I didn't bother looking at the Skyjacker one
>>13952888
that 4" BDS lift is a drop bracket one, but the 3" skyjacker isn't
>>13952886
>1in of down travel with a drop bracket is different from 1in of down travel with coilovers preloaded
Wow.
The fact is: a drop bracket lift only serves to keep CV angles in alignment with hugely faggot lift applications. Drop brackets "allow" you to fit more lift because the CV joints wont be twisted to all fuck. They're still faggot. You're still a faggot.
>>13952808
>implying I bought it
>implying that's really my truck
>implying I'm not just making shit up to be relatable
>implying anything ever
>>13952918
>>13952855
>Don't get flowmaster mufflers, they are shit
ftfy
Chambered mufflers are restrictive garbage and create a hollow sound.
>>13952888
do the BDS and the diff drop brackets. that will be the most reliable setup. probably the highest quality as well.
>>13952929
>implying he wasn't being sarcastic
>also implying both of you aren't saying your opinion is better than others
>>13952912
You're fucking painful to argue with holy fuck.
I'm not going to explain to you why a drop bracket lift is better than lolbiggercoils or lolspacers or worst of all lolcrankmuhbarsup.
You're going to have to look that shit up yourself.
>>13952942
>opinion
I'm pretty sure straight through mufflers are less restrictive than chambered ones. I'm also fairly certain flowmasters are known for their hollow, reverberating sound.
>>13952855
>>13952929
I was planning on corsa catback and Doug thorley headers. Straight pipe is too loud do not want
>>13952949
>drop bracket lift better than anything
I literally only agree with you on this if you're referring to mall crawler faggot builds as I've said, it's a faggot thing to do. If you go anywhere near a dirt road it is LARGELY agreed on that a lost CV boot is easier to fix than a differential.
>>13952965
Eh, as long as you keep your cadillac converter, it's not stupid loud. I cut my muffler off 'cause it was about to fall off anyway and now it's quieter than when it had an exhaust leak with the muffler.
My buddy had a shop do a legitimate muffler delete and just replaced it with a piece of pipe. Mine is much quieter, I don't even understand how that works...
>>13953002
A truck with a drop bracket lift kit has the same ground clearance as a stock height truck on the same tire size. But, drop bracket lift kits allow for bigger tiers, which allow for more ground clearance than stock.
>>13952930
Will that kind of lift interfere with my steering? Should I get aftermarket control arms or steering stabilizer
>>13953030
>placing the differential lower to the ground
>lowering center of gravity drastically
man you guys just suck on the "stanced" out dick, don't you?
>>13953002
>drop axle
>pinion angle is marginally worse
>everything else retains factory spec
>fit bigger tires for increased ground clearance
You're seriously telling me that's worse than
>fuck it just crank it up
>CV axles? Who needs em
>steering angles all fucked
>alignment completely fucked
>have to correct the retarded amount of positive camber that comes from this shit
Do you read what you type?
>all because hurrdurr I don't like trucks lifted more than my shitpile I can't afford to lift.
>>13953046
ANY lift is going to change the way that truck feels. Period. Especially if you're putting on heavier tires.
>>13952801
So you're confident enough in your knowledge to argue with people but don't even know about drop bracket lifts?
>>13952825
Which is the exact same thing 99.9% of lift kits on the market do. Dropping the axle/suspension in relation to the frame lifts the vehicle, hence the name lift kit.
>>13952841
>kit that lifts the vehicle
>calling it anything other than a lift kit
>>13952912
A drop bracket lift serves to keep CV angles and angle related wear in check by keeping the correct CV angle at the specified lift amount, be that 4" or 14".
Lifts that do not do that are increasing wear on CVs and generally reducing wheel travel as well.
Make sure you buy some tires with sick treads so everyone can hear how dope your truck is on the freeway. They may wear out in a few months, but it's totally worth it.
>>13953067
The way the lift works, the diff stays the same distance from the ground while the rest of the truck goes up. Pick related, the diff isn't hanging down or vulnerable, but rather it is the same height as stock if not further from the ground do to larger tires
>>13953002
>>13953067
>crickets.mp3
this anon confirmed rekt
>>13953002
Good thing drop bracket lifts don't grenade differentials.
>>13953076
Yeah so my question remains: will I require any additional suspension modifications to the steering or control arms etc?
>>13953628
Morning bump
you can start by sucking dicks OP
>>13953628
If you buy a complete drop bracket lift kit, you will not
>>13947741
lol that anime shitter who was bragging about 3000 dollars and an old ass jeep should see this
well I say that
this grown ass man is showing off like 30g tops and a toy truck so....
>>13947484
Lol no mud? That truck will never know fun.
>>13957839
Alex pls go
>>13958161
Have you ever been under a truck that's been mudding?
not fun
>I am forced to drive a Brotruck as I have no other current means of transportation.
Feels bad man. I always feel like people are laughing at my small penis.
>>13960112
Well put it away if you don't want people to laugh at it.
>>13947493
Is the wanker who owns that disgusting Tundra still around?
Part of me wants to build a brotruck after I finish my degree and start making dat oilfield money, but then I realized.
>lift
>35's, and nice rims that are worth over $2k
>new truck
>LED bars, brush guards, etc
But for real. I see no reason to brotruck it up, except for attention and status display.
I'd rather take my current DD truck offroad and muddin' than risk fuckin' shit up on a nice pricey truck. I'm not fucked up about it getting scuffed up.
For the price that people put into pavement pounder brotrucks, you could get a nice sporty or muscle car that is more fun and drinks just as much gas.
>>13960112
>I always feel like people are laughing at my small penis.
>guy I know 2nd hand buys a POS old lifted chebby
>make a joke about compensations
>turns out the guy really has a 4inch dick and chicks have talked about it
>ask him if he really has a small dick
>silence
kek
Short vitara on 38" tires, 2.5l galloper engine and hilux axles
Also whats a brotruck
>>13961370
>"oh that looks nice, I wonder who'd build something like th-"
>sees the Icelandic plate
>"....oh"
>>13961374
The best part is I think some 17 year old built it for under 5k
>>13952675
>Has DIESEL
> Posts HP numbers
![DSC_1544-960x560w[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oGKDOqN.jpg "DSC_1544-960x560w[1].jpg")
A lot of "Bro" racecar guys have lowered duallies.
Can't you pick something smaller? Natural selection doesn't work when you're sitting in a massive death machine that's only going to get other drivers killed.
>>13961524
Picking something that isn't a deathtrap is part of natural selection.
My friend Bill has one of those!
>>13961508
>sidesteps
>on a lowered truck
manlet detected
>>13957839
>still going on about the 2hu fag in the keychain thread
Jesus Christ you're a broken record.
>>13962787
I mean I just think that's what the truck comes with. And they just weren't taken off.
>>13962787
It's to give the illusion of less ground clearance
>>13961524
That is natural selection. I am adapting on the road to kill others over me. Fag
>>13961508
I get people who raise their truck, but I don't get people who lower them...
>>13964554
Posting 4" lifts
>>13964559
you shouldn't
Hi, does anyone know about EFILive and Black Bear Performance SCT? If so have you applied it to your truck?
>>13947484
>Won't be off roading and using as my DD
>>13947484
Here's a guide with only 9 easy steps!
Also I want a 50" light bar like pic related anyone recommend good brands?
>>13964608
OK sorry here is bigger
>>13964630
For some reason people seem to get upset by this
>>13947730
The best option for this is basically as heavy an thick as possible.
My father had a cool looking bull bar but it was hollow, and probably aluminum, he hit a deer and the thing collapsed into his engine block totalling his truck.
>>13964709
I figured I will just look at an aftermarket steel bumper but they are expensive. Maybe I'll weld one up
Thanks
Can anybody tell me at what point I would need a wideband O2 sensor? I am looking to replace exhaust with cat back and replace headers.
Other than that, I think that's all the questions I have right now.
Appreciate the help. I will have pictures one day, you will see /o/
>>13964808
needs more HDR
>>13964808
Maybe one of the tripfags with trucks can answer
>>13964554
2500, will look bigger than a 1500 you're comparing to. Nice overall except would go black instead of chrome on the BMFs
>>13964559
>monsters
how about no
>>13964589
>muh chrome
>pro comp tires
bmf wheels make it okay, though
>>13964614
>BMF SOTAs
>Colormatched bumpers
>Toyos
>nothing fucking dumb
best truck
>>13964671
>rough country
>XD addicts
kys anon
>>13964706
>XDs
again, no
>>13964715
Nice, but brorunner if you're never going to take it off-road and an absolute waste of money
>>13964728
>Extended cab
>rough country light bar mounts
>shit wheels
>basically street tires
ugly
>>13964760
>Like nice truck with BMFs but instead shitty XDs
not completely ruined, but needs new wheels and bigger tires
>>13964808
again, pointless brorunner if never going to go off-road
>>13964876
>retarded hood scoop
>ebay headlights
>ebay (and completely useless) bull bar
>shit wheels
>overrated tires
>bushwackers with no offset
this is an absolute abomination
>>13964982
I am aiming for: >>13964614
I will also add a windshield light bar and clear the headlights. Haven't decided if I'll replace the bumpers yet
>>13965059
Aim for that, it's simple and clean. Don't do a light bar because that's rice, same with a bumper unless you're going to put a winch on it. And don't clear the headlights, get them professionally retrofitted with projectors.
>>13965059
And 305/55r20 BMF REPR with Goodyear DuraTrac or Toyo AT2/MTS
>>13965067
The light bar will not be rice it will be used and the bumper in case I trample wildlife. Why no to the cleared lights?
>>13965076
You know you can't use those on the road, right? And if you're talking about a brush guard, it will make anything you hit that is more than a stock hurt your truck worse. Retrofit you headlights like pic related because it is so much nicer.
>>13965088
I'm talking about pic related. As for the light bar it's only illegal, it can still be used. I do a lot of highway driving at night.
Those headlights look custom and pricey. I can cut into mine with a dremel myself and save money.
lightbars are shit for night driving.
Theyre good for off road, reverse, or work lighting, but they dont "throw" like a pair of pencil beams
unscientific pic related, i can post the full copypasta i wrote before about this if you want
>>13965275
Hey OP, I'm the guy from the beginning of the thread. This is what I meant about the long range Hellas and led light bar combo
>won't be offroading
>sick mawdz
Kill yourself thats how
>>13965088
as someone that builds bull bars/bumpers
lol, no it wont. Unless you hit something hard enough to generate enough force to bend your frame, that shit ain't going nowhere.
>>13965515
>what are sour grapes
HAWAII REPORTING IN NIGGERS SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPP.
>>13966231
Your tires
>>13966231
You could put like 38 inch tyres on it at least. something tells me you have enough wheel clearance.
>>13964760
>>13964614
Bump for these questions still unanswered
>>13966376
Put some spacers on to extend it out a bit further and he could fit pretty much anything
by a used 4runner on Craigslist and
>win
Pretty much the ideal light SUV with a massive aftermarket and great reliability. Guys over on top gear couldnt say enough about them, they are bullet proof.
If you want to be a flashy bitch, get a 5th gen and do gay stuff to it.
If you want a superior earth roving vehicle, get any 4runner. Parts are cheep and there is a ton of online info on modding it yourself.
>have had a 4th gen for 7 years
>never an issue
pic related, i take mine off road though.
08' Toyota Tacoma
Mileage:
86,000
Price:
$12,900
Engine:
I4
Fuel:
GASOLINE
Transmission:
Automatic
Drive:
2WD
Exterior Color:
White
Interior Color:
Tan
Upholstery:
Cloth
Cab:
XTRACAB
Is this a good deal for a first time truck buyer looking for a DD?
>>13964554
>>13964559
>>13964589
>>13964614
Those square ass Silverado wheel wells look goofy when lifted.
>>13965141
That's bro as fuck to get a front bumper just so when you hit things because you're a bad driver you won't get damaged
>>13965534
>steel front bumper
>bush guard
You should know that those are two separate things. Brush guards are absolute shit.
>>13969572
Sounds pretty smart to me. Proactive rather than reactive.
>>13964494
How is it hard to get?
Better empeegees, better handling, less drag.
>>13969977
>buying a truck for fuel economy, handling, or low drag
![1584d2h[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4sdiF6t.jpg "1584d2h[1].jpg")
>>13969998
I would never buy a truck to get better fuel economy, handling, or lower drag. That's retarded. It's a truck.
But making it fucking better than stock mustn't be a bad idea.
I could imagine myself towing racecars to local racetracks hundreds of miles away with a lowered truck. That doesn't kill me on gas or have barely any feedback of the road.
Doesn't seem like a bad idea at all.
Why are you so against it?
Follow the rich douche with no class formula
If 1/2 ton truck
>6 inch lift
>20 inch wheels
>35 inch tires
if 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck
>6 inch lift
>22 inch wheels
>37 inch tires
>>13947539
>>13947532
agreed. a tasteful level kit or even 2-4 inch lift with 31-33 inch tires looks way better to me than a 6-8 inch lift with 35-37 inch tires.
It's way more practical, way more stable and safe if you plan on daily driving it.
it's also hundreds of dollars cheaper in parts, tires, gas, maintenance, etc.
>>13970071
>no class
Maybe that's a classy sort of thing in these parts. Too much lift or scraping bumpers looks shitty both ways.
>>13970046
I'm not. Your pic looks really good actually. I automatically assumed you meant slammed when you said lowered. It's what most people mean. Pic related is attractive
>>13970141
Here here
Pic related. 4" on 33s
>>13960201
>wants to build a brotruck after I finish my degree and start making dat oilfield money
thousands of southerners make this mistake every year. They call i that being "nigger rich"
that truck will have to be financed for 72-84 months. If you make the mistake of financing your aftermarket stuff, which a lot of people do, you'll end up way upside down in the loan, financing like $60-80k on a $45-50k truck.
Then you're either laid off from the oil field and can't make your $1,500/monthly payment.
God forbid you drive drunk one night or hit a deer or flip it in a ditch or some shit and don't have gap insurance. You'll have a wrecked truck that you still owe several thousand dollars. Then you'll have fucked up credit, need some beater truck and have stupid high standards because you've been driving a crazy nice for truck for a few years.
>>13960160
yes
>>13970241
You're an idiot dude
>>13970251
buttmad cuz it's sad but true
>enjoy your 530 credit score and the trailer you live in
>>13970241
>>13970251
>buying new with anything but 0% financing
And you call me the monster
>>13970641
>people this insecure exist
>they will pay $5000 more to have a vehicle right now for pretend status
>>13947741
All I see is a months worth of gas money >_>
>>Amiwrite. Jpeg
>>13970249
>terrible taste
>terrible suspension
>terrible parking
>terrible person
>>13960160
I may still be.
>yfw I got a clean 93 f250 for $4800
Stay mad and broke
>>13970197
Looks gross imo
>>13964709
I like my bull bar
>>13952888
the bds kit is a lot of cutting hope you're ok with that
>>13966496
the black bear tunes require the pcm to be shipped to them. I have a diablo trinity and its great
>>13970955
Looks heavy duty.
>>13970998
Cutting of what?
>>13971009
Yes you have to scan and then send the unit over is the impression I'm under
>>13971009
I also am considereing the diablo Trinity. Forgot my name>>13971287
Morning bump
>>13970161
The front end being higher than the bed triggers me every time.
>>13970241
that's quite the slippery slope
