>FWD is boring and shit guise I swear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugQvh4mGvWE
>>13920660
>poor throttle management
figures.
I remember that ad from 6th grade. I thought all cars were RWD up until then, through some kind of logic. Damn that feel.
Look guys if we rape our rear brakes and the ground is wet we can have fun too!
more kids who cant drive itt
>>13920686
You wish you could drive 1/4th as good as that guy
>>13920706
right, here's your reply.
>>13920706
>1/4th
I read that as quarterth
>>13920696
He wasn't even using the e-brake most of the time. Also, the same technique an be applied in the dry.
>there are people on this board who have never got a FF sideways without the e-brake
The sad existence of a shitter.
>>13920713
I'll never understand that, it's just applying a slight amount of brake pressure just prior to turning.
>>13920713
I drive a RWD car, don't even need to worry about being a shitter.
>>13920660
Based Xsara.
Next time post a video where people drive fast not just flashy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxrWTZjtCXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnktwJ71LBA
>>13920730
>I drive a RWD car
Cool, you can power out of a corner and slide.
It's completely different than tossing it into the corner and braking to get it sideways. Powersliding out of a corner is shitter tier comparatively speaking IMO.
LOOK I POSTED IT AGAIN GUIZE MY CIVIC IS A RACECAR SRSLY
>>13920751
>dem straight cut gear in dat opel
>>13920765
>Powersliding out of a corner is shitter tier comparatively speaking IMO
K.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UDubjGU8iU
Let's see your FF going sideways now.
>>13920767
Type R's are more race car than whatever shitheap you drive.
>>13920778
>every rwd car is setup for drifting
Grasping eh?
>>13920790
Yes your shitbox is definitely your cherrypicked example. Your ad hominem and butthurt defensiveness won't make FWD suddenly not shit
>>13920800
>every fwd car is set up for "tossing it into the corner and braking to get it sideways"
Grasping eh?
>>13920805
Buddy you're the first one to throw an autistic fit when faced with the fact that an FWD car is faster than your favorite car.
>>13920790
If we're using that logic then I'll go choose the fastest RWD car I can think of and blog about how it shits on the Type R
>>13920818
someone sounds mad that rwd gets shit on by fwd econoboxes
>>13920660
FWD is boring and shit, depending on what you like, I live in a hilly place and have a few FWD daily drivers and a RWD, in the rain it can be fun to wheel spin the entire way up these hills in the FWD cars I have and also very very very easily, the RWD car fish tails when you do this making it more dangerous if the road is narrow, how ever FWD is so easy that it isn't rewarding in the slightest, forcing my FWD cars into an understeer and controlling it for fun on a wet roundabout is so easy you can do it in your sleep, after a while it becomes boring and not fun, when you mature as a driver you realise that RWD is better for having fun, as it engages you more and challenges you, this makes it more fun and yes a lot less boring. So yeah FWD is boring and easy compared to RWD, unless you have an unusually long attention span or are shit at car control and cant manage much more than FWD.
>>13920818
>comparing 1 million dollar cars to 10k beaters
autism at it's finest folks.
>>13920821
>Type R
>fwd econobox
>>13920824
>fun
>going slow is fun
>going fast with control is not fun
are you retarded? because I think you're retarded.
>>13920824
yeah
wrong
That's not what we're discussing. You're a bad driver
>>13920824
If you seriously think a basic thing like controlling oversteer is all there is to a vehicle then you need to stop posting. I want to see you go on a track and set some times with both rwd and fwd. Then you can talk.
>>13920824
gotta love people like this who cant drive
shits hilarious
>>13920829
its a Civic a Civic is an econobox
even the Integra is a sporty econobox
>>13920841
What does that make all classic muscle? worse then econoboxes?
>5.0 L v8
>89hp
>all these FF kiddies
Why is there no FF in LeMans or other races if it is so good?
>inb4 catastrophic failure nissan lmp
>>13920853
Why are their no RWD top tier rally cars if they are so good?
Last I checked, FWD and AWD dominate that sport.
>>13920850
all muscle cars are crap
plain and simple
>>13920835
this thread is about FWD being boring and shit you retard, I typed in a true story to inform people how this can be true... why am I a bad driver ? wheel spinning up hills in the wet makes you a bad driver right ? so does controlling a car past its limits ? because none of that broadens your ability to drive at all
>>13920859
Nope. Check again. It is AWD that dominates it. And that is one motorsport out of many. And we were talking about circuit racing this entire thread.
>>13920871
>circuit racing
>RWD not even allowed to compete in the vast majority because of poor mechanical problems
yea nah, when you drive a shitbox like RWD you are begging to understeer right into the wall.
>>13920850
>Smog era
>Classic
Although the actual classic muscle isn't all that great either
>451 V8
>300hp
>>13920877
>>RWD not even allowed to compete in the vast majority because of poor mechanical problems
Let's see a citation for that. Oh wait, you just pulled it out of your ass
>>13920881
65 mustang had a v8 with 110 hp and was a 4.0 as well.
Majority of classic muscle was shit, except for the select few who put the optional packages in.
>>13920660
FF is shit for driving pleasure, as anyone with more than 1 braincell knows
>>13920889
That's just wrong, the only engine in the 1st gen mustang with near 110hp is the 170 I6 with 103
The 260 V8 (4.3L) is the smallest V8 and has 165hp, which is pretty bad but not a 4L with 110hp
>>13920890
>I have never driven a car
>>13920895
>The 260 V8 (4.3L) is the smallest V8 and has 165hp
Yes, do a quick google search on it, you will see from the factory they were rated as low as 110hp.
actual quality control was shit back then, also we all already know that the dyno rating equipment then was shit too and was always wrong and off about a good bit.
>>13920899
>I have never driven a rwd car
>f-fwd is fun too!
Kek
>>13920906
Not him, but I find control far more fun then slipidy sliding.
>>13920906
Driving fast is fun. And you can do it in both.
>>13920895
those are gross ratings
it probably makes like 110-120 hp
>>13920903
Google returns nothing for 110hp Windsors. Provide proofs
>>13920860
>Compare 2liter and 6.2 liter cars
>Compare 520hp and 200hp cars
>Compare 60k$ and 30k$ cars
You rly so stupid?
>>13920899
> somebody states an opinion
> disagrees so states he/she hasn't driven a car when he/she has no evidence at all to support
obvious retard
>>13920713
Seriously, I can't believe /o/ knows this little about driving. Even with a RWD if I want to go sideways I'll use a weight-transfer technique like that.
>>13920923
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=t39186&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=&zip=32655&distance=50000&searchChanged=true&trimNames=ZL1&showNegotiable=true&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true#listing=123931931
They are under 45k
>>13920660
>FWD is boring and shit guise I swear
Yeah, we already know.
kek
>>13920923
Also
http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/news/138966/2015-honda-civic-type-r-price-specs-and-release-date
>£30,000
>$45k usd
>300 hp
>>13920998
Please see
>>13920860
And
>>13920864
Have you actually tried drifting in a RWD car? FWD is a fucking joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ealqoANBdn8
>>13921007
nice cherry picking skills
>>13920706
He isn't doing anything that requires skill. He's just throwing it into the corner. Anyone with any circuit experience can do that. He isn't trying to be fast he's just having fun.
Clueless keyboard warriors see sliding and aggressive inputs as fast, but the reality is that the smoothest car making no noise and drawing no attention is the fastest driver out there.
>>13921012
>Comparing a brand new car to one that's 15 years old
>>13921012
>old viper
>says I'm the one cherry picking
Get stronger b8 m8
>>13921019
>gets btfo
>b-but rwd is good i swear
>>13921024
>Another 15 year old car
Way to cherrypick m8
>>13920808
Your example was a car that had to be extensively modded to drift, OP is a stock ff. My point was it takes more skill to slide a FF around than to power out of a corner to get sideways anyway.
>>13921027
>this assmad gm can't compete with a civic
kek
>>13921024
>type r gets btfo by similarly priced, and somewhat recent mustang and camaro
>has to post cars that are almost 10 years old
Lmao b8 harder
>>13921024
The c5 is 15 years old.. on 15 year old tires. with roughly the same power to weight as the civic. not surprised by this at all.
>>13921038
>Implying the Camaro isn't a straight line mobile
>>13921045
>>13921039
>all these excuses
Atleast you tried. Sadly, the same can't be said for GM.
>>13921045
>moving goal posts
find your nearest bridge, and jump.
>>13921053
>Moving goal posts
Says the guy comparing 15 year old chevrolets to brand new mugens
>>13920999
>Compare used car and new car
Also:
http://www.autoblog.com/used-list/make1-Chevrolet/model1-Camaro/trim-ZL1/vcond-New
58-62k$
Civic = 45k$
Yeah, 200hp is my mistake. Just accustomed, that type-r's got 200hp
Also, civic is more economic, obviously and it's not requires fuel like a tank.
>>13921058
different guy ya dumb fuck.
>>13921061
I was using similarly priced cars, I could've went with a 2015 but I was just being fare
>>13921064
>4 seconds slower around the red bull ring
KEK!
>>13921071
>8 seconds slower around VIR
Kek
Also pic related
>corvette almost 5 seconds faster
>>13921079
Nice try, exploding on the starting line doesn't count.
>>13921084
Well damn, it's hard to believe the gtr is slower than a vette with a blown motor.
>>13921010
They say, that japanese invented drift, because they couldn't tosell their RWD buckets
>>13921090
>gm shills have to damage control this much
GM themselves asmitted the corvette is a failure.
>>13921097
I have to admit the gtr has to be pretty bad to be slower than a vette that was apparently so bad
>>13921017
He's no pro sure, but he's pretty controlled, and his lines aren't bad. I'm absolutely certain he drives better than 99% of the scrubs on this board.
>>13921106
https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
>gtr
>7:08.68
>corvette
>7:22.68
KEK!
>>13920660
AWD > RWD >>>>>>>> nigger aids > FWD
>>13922453
Spoken like some one who loses to a civic
Alphonse were you posting on /tv/ last night?
>>13922658
Lol, no.
>>13922825
I'm gonna buy a civic type r crank the boost to 22 and laugh as I'm pulling away and you're losing your shit in your gaymaro
>>13922865
Stock, the 2016 Type R has a 0-60 of 5.7 seconds. For 305 hp, that's fucking garbage.
Better hope your extra boost can shave a second plus off of that time. Faggot.
>>13922873
4.6 with pilot sports
Look at hook gettin so mad,, first the track it beats every american and most German cars on track and then put slicks and up the boost and see little bitches cry that it's
>j-j-just a civic
Beating them in the straights
Ripped a pretty sweet FWD burnout in my SHO today, only dumped it from 2k but she just wanted to break traction with the studded tires lel
>>13922894
no matter how quick the civic is it doesn't make your 1.3 fiat any faster
>FWD
>more control
It's great when the wheels you steer with lose traction, due to also delivering the power.
>>13922873
>V6 Camaro had 304-323hp
>took over 6s to hit 60mph
RWD fags everyone.
>>13924133
>picking the slowest time for the car that hurts your bottom
FWD fags everyone
>RWD in charge of beating FWD
>muh miata
>>13924206
>y-you cant have fun with a FWD
>>13923779
>what are rear sway bars
>what is engine dampers
>what are compound tires
Alot of fwds mostly Honda's were faster than their similarly priced rwd competition
Now honda has a computer controlled torque vectoring lsd and it's proven to be faster on the track than a 2015 m3 at double the price
Yet it's fwd and turbo
>>13924163
>guy says 5.7s 0-60 is slow for 305hp
>point out a car with 304-323hp that is slower
>LOLYOUBUTTHURTFAM
Are you retarded? I could have easily picked a Pentastar Challenger which is even slower.
>>13921110
why doesn't he just drive without sliding and having to spin the wheel like crazy
>>13920865
man that's the densest thing i've ever read
>>13925006
Because he's having fun, not running a competitive timed lap.
>>13920660
>leaning back
>legs in the go-kart position
>gayest steering wheel technique ive ever seen
>citroen
>>13921110
He isn't controlled at all. The fact that you think he is just shows how little experience you have.
>>13920660
As much as i genuinly and unironically like FF, this vid makes FF look boring as fuck. Why bother sliding when you cant even maintain it for more than 3 seconds? FF is great for grip plz stop trying to change the minds of the RWD hivemended cuc.ks. let them remain ignant of the magisty of FF
>>13920660
can you imagine how shitty it would look if we were not watching this from behind the driver, but from the outside? Yeah it would look like a nigger learning how to drive.
>>13920660
This video does not support your thesis very well
>>13925077
Speak for yourself m80. He only broke traction on his own terms, he had no trouble getting it back again, he had a pretty decent line otherwise. Not sure in what universe that isn't controlled.
