Cmon, someone on here has to have one
>>13919999
checked
>>13919359
ishygddt, cold air = best air.
Is this to get the engine warmer quicker on cold mornings or to protect the grille from roadsalt?
Made something similar for my friends Merc; a piece of cardboard infront of the radiator
I always just jam cardboard in there
>>13920573
Engine heat.
>>13920566
Yeah, intake temps.
An engine that never gets above 130f isnt... Great.
Itll have great compression, and lots of carbon
>>13920573
Warms the engine up I think.
>>13920566
Overcooling = best cooling
>>13920688
It doesn't. There's no way it can possibly do so.
>>13920710
By blocking airflow to the radiator it keeps the hot coolant recirculating to help the engine get warmer quicker.
>>13920721
That's what the thermostat is for.
>>13920799
You are talking gas engines. Diesels have a thermostat too, but due to lack of high temp combustion and the thermal properties if high graphite iron blocks, it takes much longer for them to get to operating temp. A grill cover acts as a restrictor to air passing through the radiator and thereby lowering the cooling efficiency. Lower efficiency means higher temps faster especially in a diesel.
>>13920844
Not accusing that anon of thinking this but theres a pretty common misconception among less informed car owners that the fan draws cool air from the rad and blows it on the engine to cool it.
>>13919999
Eyyyyyyy dem kwadz
>>13919359
really only useful for diesels
>>13920573
North American trucks are poorly made pieces of shit, they have extreme difficulty starting in temperatures below zero. That's why they all need block heaters. I've owned a few Japanese cars with 4 cylinder engines, they all started in cold weather. Mazda3 started in -35 celsius, no heater, no problem. Transmission was gooey as fuck though, took like 10 minutes of driving before the shifter would spring back naturally. Clutch pedal was laggy too.
>>13920589
Sounds like a good way to start a fire family.
>>13920844
This. Diesels are shit all year round, but especially in the winter. Unless you're towing a ton of weight, frequently, there's no good reason to own one. Fuel economy aside, diesel fuel is now more expensive than gasoline. Not to mention the stupid DEF that needs to be filled, the fairly shitty *realistic* gas mileage you get, and the myriad of inconveniences winter driving poses. Better add some anticoag to your gas, wouldn't want it turning into JELLY BEANS AND FUCKING YOUR FUEL PUMP.
Gasoline > Diesel, forever and always.
>>13921299
But even with diesel being higher than gas, overall cost of owning 2 identical trucks, one gas one diesel, is lower on a diesel over a 5 year period. As far as American trucks being shit, its 20* with the wind chill today and every truck I got in started without an issue. Maybe you were trying to start an old POS or a newer 6.0 Ford.
>>13921327
To realize any savings off the total purchase price of a new diesel vehicle, vs. a new gasoline vehicle, you need to keep the diesel for about 10 years. Then you might reach a point where you're equal.
But you should also remember that diesel vehicles are typically slower, sound like shit, and are generally just gay. These are simple facts, diesel cars are for homosexuals.
>>13921327
And BTW, def usually last about 7-10k miles on a 7 gallon tank and is very inexpensive. What other little nirgles are you talking about? Engine block heaters? Not required if it isn't consistently -20F anymore. Having to put on a winter grill cover? Takes 5 minutes tops.
>But my EMPEEGEES
The best fuel economy gas full size truck is a ram 1500 4x2 reg cab HFE. It is rated at 26 HWY. The best advertised diesel full size is again the Ram HFE. It is rated at 29 HWY and has easily beaten those numbers in multiple tests conducted by various 3rd parties. Now, lets look at range and coats. Lets say you get 25 in the gasser (V6 mind you) and 30 in the diesel and both have a 25 gallon tank. In my area right now, gay is 1.79/gal and diesel is 1.99/gal. At 25 gallons, that's a $5 difference. And lets say they hit their fuel economy numbers that means:
Gasser range: 625 miles
Diesel range: 750 miles.
Now, that's a difference of 125 miles which would mean the gasser needs 5 gallons of fuel to meet the diesel. At 1.79/ gallon, that means you are spending 8.95 to go the same distance so the diesel has a lower cost per mile meaning cheaper to run.
>>13921334
If you drive 12k miles, a ram diesel rakes 4.7 years to break even. At 15k/yr, it takes less than 3. Try again.
>>13921364
A RAM truck will cost you 10 grand in non-engine repairs over the course of its life, including at least one transmission replacement. If you've used it for towing, good luck getting warranty coverage for the full cost.
Can't wait for Toyota's diesel though, finally a well-made truck that is also diesel.
>>13921370
>Stupidity: The Post
This is not Daimler built trucks. And warranties are fully honored as long as the vehicle is unmodified (ie lift more that 2", exhaust delete). Your post is based in past fallacy while not taking any facts as per why Chrysler trannys used to grenade. Look up the Magnum engine debacle during the Daimler era and you will see what I mean.
>>13921397
Or look at the newest Jeeps and Chryslers that used the 8 and 9 speed trannies that kept exploding. They issued a recall for them earlier this year, actually.
Chrysler makes shit, they have for ages. They haven't stopped. They're absolute shit in every respect. You're a nigger and a faggot if you think otherwise.
>>13921397
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/dodge_ram.html
inb4 dmg ctrl
>>13921429
>This 2015 Ram makes the third new Ram for me. That being said the third was not the charm. My first was a 2006 Ram 2500 which was a good truck. A lot of recalls but all in all good truck traded with 50,000 miles. Second one was a 2011 3500 mega cab. Dual climate control was out when I drove it off the lot. 10 to 12 mpg which was bad. Third brake light and sun roof leaked, dash rattled 24/7 and 4wd would not work half the time. Really disappointed in that truck traded with 19,000 miles. So I bought my third truck which is the 2015 ram 2500. This truck is so weak I'd rather pull with a 1500 and the transmission slips for the first 1/8 mile in morning. Truck now has 9000 miles. So in my opinion I'm done with Ram trucks. As soon as I can trade this truck it's gone. Take this review how you like. This is just my experience with Ram trucks.
>first RAM is a piece of shit
>trades it in
>for another RAM
>that is also a piece of shit
>trades that in
>for another RAM
>that is a colossal piece of shit
Typical Dodge customer 2bh.
>>13921414
Ah yes, and my firsthand experience in the matter definitely doesn't play into your ideas right? The recall issued earlier this year was for a software update to di hard shifts between 3/4 and 6/7. As for the 8 speed, same story with the Grand Cherokee and another update.
And for the consumer affairs guy, look at the test period. It's 3+ year old vehicles for the long term tests. That's still phasing out Cerberus and Daimler AG tech.
>>13921460
>there's always an excuse
Chrysler is literally the dindunuffin of car companies. Holy fuck, stop your nigger shit and make a better vehicle.
>>13921299
Diesel is cheaper than unleaded again in jersey
>>13921299
Have fun with your premature wear due to lack of sufficient lubrication on startup.
>>13921370
Yeah but the imports can't compete at all with domestics.
>900lb ft of torque
>>13921495
Chrysler DOES make a much better vehicle today compared to all the long term survey studies that are available. Ownership surveys for the 13+ model year wont be viable for another 12-16 months at least.
>>13921429
>Acting like GM and Ford don't have similar pages with equal or more complaints
>>13922137
hahaha c u c k fanboy detected
I didn't act like that at all, Ford and GM make pure trash too. They're all shit, but Chrysler takes the biggest shit cake of them all.
>b-but everyone is just as shitty as Chrysler
>m-muh brand loyalty
That's you, faggot. That's what you sound like.
>>13920844
>You are talking gas engines.
Yea, I was. It still isn't to block flow to the radiator, though, but to block airflow that cools the engine itself.
>>13922313
Then why not wrap the engine? It is designed to impede airflow through the radiator via a grill restriction.
>>13922308
Nit even me but how is VW doing? Mitsubishi died yet? Nissan going to shit with more crossovers because bean counters? Hows the beige world of Toyota these days?
I'm not brand loyal for the most part. I have owned my share of foreign and domestic vehicles and there are two I will continue to by because they have been good to me: Jaguar and Mopar. And when they break, unlike ze Germans, I can afford to fix them fully.
>>13922557
Can't hear you over the sound of people all over the world buying my vehicles while your company declares bankruptcy and needs government bailouts.
>>13922529
wrapping the engine is slightly more involved and inconvenient than attaching a grille shield.
surely you don't need this explaining to you
>>13920799
On my old winter beater S10 it ran plenty hot until I had to put in a fresh new radiator that wasn't blocked full of mud and leaves. The new radiator cooled too good I guess? I put three new thermostats in it, flushed the coolant too. It wouldn't get hot after the new radiator. In the summer it ran cool too, the electric cooling fan rarely came on.
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>>13922608
>my vehicles
are you 12?
>>13921445
Nigger why did you buy one after the second. Also lul at you trading a truck in at 50k. I hope you die.
>>13922627
here on /o/, we're not about realism. we're about technical wins.
he doesn't care, nor does he know, that it'd take the better part of an hour of fucking around in the engine bay to properly wrap the block. and even if he does, he'll tell you it takes 5 minutes.
>>13922637
lul @ you for being so fucking stupid as to not realize he's greentext quoting a review left on consumeraffairs, noted in the post he replied to
holy fuck is it your first day on 4chan little babby?
>>13921263
Well, you kinda hit the nail tho.
Its not the coolant circulating keeping the engine under optimum operating temp... Its the -10f air coming in the front.
That aint the way it usually works, but the eddects if that cooling is what people are trying to slow/stop with a. Winter front so the thermostat and cooling system can keep your engine at a good ol 185..
>>13922664
not him but thats an interesting idea
Do HCCI engines have problems with cool engine temps as well? Given that they generate low temps that make warming the engine harder. Does the engine even need to be warm with them?
senpai
>>13922664
I have no fucking clue what you're saying in the end of your post.
But this guy does >>13922689
>>13925464
You don't think it be like it is, but it do
>>13922133
anything after 2012 is solid, 2005 - 2011 is shit.
Even my god-tier 300 started having issues at 100k miles which is expected, but, being the chrysler halo car it was the best of the bunch.
>>13921299
>Gasoline > Diesel, forever and always.
>diesel fuel is now more expensive than gasoline
Here diesel is about 20% cheaper than gas
>Not to mention the stupid DEF that needs to be filled
Not a single drop of DEF in this country and no dealerships sell vehicles that require DEF.
>the fairly shitty *realistic* gas mileage you get
Significantly better when the previous two points are considered.
>the myriad of inconveniences winter driving poses
What if you live somewhere, where winter doesn't exist? Where the only 2 seasons are, Wet Season and Dry Season.
>>13921358
I spend 30$ a week on def.
>>13920022
checked check
>>13927655
Sonofafuck checked
>>13927482
Over how many miles though? And off topic, what's your favorite truck stop?
