Civic vs GTI Canada
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Assuming both cars are brand new:
>2015 base trim Honda Civic SI sedan manual
>$31,844
vs
>2015 base trim Volkswagen Golf GTI coupe manual
>$32,884
I'm looking for a "hot hatch" type commuter car.
Two doors is annoying as fuck, but the GTI is "fancier" than the Si. I like Honda though and it will probably be a lot easier to maintain. The Si is also made in Canada so I'd get some patriotic satisfaction. The Mazdaspeed 3 isn't made anymore, and the Focus ST starts at $30,000 before taxes. I love the WRX, but it's like $5000 more expensive and the Subaru base trim is pretty bad.
15% Sales Tax is fucking horrible.
Ford Fiesta ST.
Or the Focus ST. Its pretty much a Mazdaspeed 3 with a more sophisticated chassis, torque vectoring instead of a LSD, and better engine that doesn't blow up as much. The base STs aren't as stripped down as they first were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKeS-M4yKZY
The modern Civic Si isn't a good car at all, IMO, and the GTI isn't worth buying if you can't afford the performance pack option. Its a little monster if you can afford it though. Link below has it without the performance pack tested.
http://driving.ca/honda/civic-cpe/auto-news/news/editors-choice-road-rockets-under-30000-the-results
>>13867746
Both are really good cars. I had trouble choosing between them too. Although i wouldn't really consider the Si a "hot hatch".
I ended up buying a 2012 Si coupe and i absolutely love it. They make great commuter cars since most the power is at the top end. Just driving around on the highways i usually make 30mpg.
>>13867815
>not waiting for the 2017 MS3 with AWD and 300hp
>>13867746
Our sales tax is 13%, not 15%
>>13867746
>15% Sales Tax is fucking horrible.
Try 21% VAT.
t. dutchfag
>>13867825
It's 15% in this paradise
>>13867832
fug
>>13867822
>Reminder Mazda came out with a Turbo Rotary Sports Car before they even released plans for a 3rd Gen MS3
Sorry bro but the 2nd Gen MS3 didn't sell well at all. I remember 2013 MS3s being on lots up well into 2014 with hearing of people getting serious discounts on them ($3000-5000 off MSRP).
Sad thing is the Focus ST is the same. My shilling isn't working ;_; The GTI and Civic have had the last 20+ years to solidify their marketplace.
>>13867746
Kia forte5 turbo.
>20k base SX
>201hp 1.6t turbo hatch
Stage 1 (cleaned up timing and fuel ratios) has raised hp by 50whp without changing boost.
>>13867841
NS, shiiit where abouts
>>13867868
I love the Focus ST, but it's not a great deal in Canada.
Canadian Starting Prices (High-Low):
>Golf GTI (5-Door) = $33,995
>Focus ST = $30,749
>Jetta GLI = $28,290
>Golf GTI (3-Door) = $27,995
>Civic Si (sedan & coupe) = $26,850
>Fiesta ST = $25,349
Those are all with the cheapest trims available and before getting raped by the 15% HST in NS.
>>13867903
hmmm might have to check this out.
Is it worth going over to the cheapo Korean darkside?
>>13867915
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I love my '15 Focus ST. Please at least test drive it OP. I won't try to convince you to buy it here, but at least give it a try.
Fiesta STs supposedly eat front brake pads if you push them hard because of the torque vectoring system.
>>13867950
shitttt CB here.. At least we have the Cabot trail..
What do you drive anon?
>>13867968
buy a focus st.
>>13867997
Just an old '06 Civic.
>>13867990
Plus when they get close to 100k miles they eat headgaskets.
Not to mention the 4 or 5 clutches you will go through getting it to that point. Eh and maybe a transmission or two.
Ford quality senpai.
>>13868037
>100k miles
proof
>clutches
proof
>transmissions
where are the proofs
its the same engine used in every single ford in some way (base model edge/explorer/taurus, escape/fusion titanium)
>>13867950
Check it out anyways, Ford dealerships tend to be a little more "negotiable" vs Import Dealers (Honda/VW) which'll tell you to buy it for this price or fuck off.
At least in my area all the scummiest Ford/GM/Chrysler salesmen moved to Honda or Subaru.
>>13868068
Oh right i forgot to mention fiesta st's tend to overheat when driving uphill or in traffic.
>>13868159
http://fiestast.net/threads/my-fist-overheated-today-has-anyone-had-this-problem.1369/page-2
Radiator replacement fixed overheating. Others had it diagnosed as a bad thermostat.
Still want proof on the bad headgaskets or transmissions. I work on Fords for a living. The Hondas have bad 3rd gear synchros where you'll get blamed for "powershifting/racing the car" and the VWs are currently on a NHTSA stop sale for snapping camshafts.
>>13868208
>VWs are currently on a NHTSA stop sale for snapping camshafts
kek, more shit for VW
they're so fucking done for
>>13868208
>VWs are currently on a NHTSA stop sale for snapping camshafts.
Holy shit will the germs ever catch a break?
>>13868218
http://www.goapr.com/tsp/3f4b0448-abe5-496d-9c9f-17108ccf2271.pdf
It was originally published 11/4, so maybe it could've been fixed by now.
>VW can't sell anything except 2.0 4cyl Jettas, Touaregs, and V6 Passats
>>13868208
LOL
>bad radiators that result in overheating and blown headgaskets
>bad thermostats
keep shilling
>>13868459
>going to mental gymnastics
i've yet to replace a motor on these things and all cases of bad t-stats/radiators were covered by factory warranty without a second thought
can't replaced a fractured ass over 4chan though
>>13867903
>even suggesting korean shitboxes compare to well developed hot hatches
Reminder that the Veloster can't even go around a corner without tripping over itself. Hyundai had ONE job.
>>13867990
I know I guy who melted his piston to his brake pad on the track...
You have to keep up on brake maintenance on a tracked car.
>>13868234
>yfw VW only sells 2.slows and Touaregs
Do people even buy their other cars?
>Routan: never5get
>>13868482
Maybe it was the faulty suspension on your fiesta that fractured your arse.
>>13868515
He probally tracked it on stock brake pads instead of getting some DTCs or something.
But the Civic is cheap garbage and the VW is made of quality.
Seriously I'm not even trolling , I repair cars daily.
>31k
buy a new miata you fucking faggot
>>13868526
>faulty suspension
>Fiesta ST is literally known for handling
