What's the deal on the new viper acr. Someone said it cut a second off a gtrs 1:30 lap time. Which is better?
Viper, the glorious befallen american supercar
>>13833684
Viper doesn't care what anyone thinks.
With that in mind, reconsider your question.
>>13833684
the viper died to me when they changed the logo from sneaky pete, all other snakes are shit.
>>13833684
Is it a requirement that facebook macros are all artifacted to hell?
>>13833684
>thinking a turbo'd V6 will have the same torque curve and smoothness as a NA V10
>>13833684
But the Viper makes 645 hp and has an 8.4L. And it isn't heavy as fuck and slow.
There's no replacement for displacement, boy. Real cars don't have blow dryers in them.
>>13833684
I don't understand the hp/l thing. What reasoning is there for preferring a small displacement engine if a larger displacement engine has more potential for power?
Per given power level, why would one even care about displacement?
>>13833742
Within reason it's a weight thing.
>>13833742
The engine with turbos has more potential
>>13833746
But you can turbo an N/A engine and have even more potential
>>13833746
but you could put turbos on the viper
>>13833746
are you smoking crack?
>>13833746
The opposite would hold true seeing as you can slap turbos on the larger engine and make more power than the smaller engine with turbos. You can't just slap more displacement on the smaller engine though.
Displacement itself is potential for power. Boost makes the most of that.
>>13833742
It's a misguided extension of power/weight. I've only seen Honda fan boys and engineering majors use it in the real world.
>>13833793
I don't understand how it could even come into play there when a DOHC turbo I6 could easily outweight a push rod NA V8 of twice the displacement making the same peak power with a flatter power band.
>>13833734
>smoothness
>supercar
you're a retard m8
>>13833734
>muh smoothness
>>13833868
Please be pretending
>>13833878
>>13833868
this smells of samefag. You're not necessarily wrong, but still.
>>13833868
>>13833878
>wanting a retarded powerband
>>13833879
>implying people lie on the internet
>>13833881
Well mine was inspired by his
>>13833684
Americans laugh at lower displacements with euro and jap cars but really they're the only places that are innovating in terms of what you can do with petrol engines, it's crazy how efficient small engines have become and we're coming to the stage where we're hitting the top and the graph is plateauing, I guess that's where hybrid and full electric cars come in to play
>>13833684
You can turbo charge that 8.3l too and push out a lot more horsepower. What's the point of this image?
>>13833858
I'm with you, I don't get it either. Some people harp on how it's about efficiency, but when modern V8s have cylinder shutoff technology and don't have to rev their cams off to climb every incline it's kinda a moot point.
>>13833868
Yeah, who cares about smoothness in a supercar?
That's why every supercar has a turbo 5L 1 cylinder
>>13833745
No, it isn't.
>>13833935
I thought /o/ was about going fast, not hypermiling.
>>13833937
they all about that three cylinder turbo electric hybrid
>>13833736
>real cars don't have blow dryers in them
you're right, they have leaf blowers
>>13834123
>300hp
>Supercar
>>13833742
>preferring a small displacement engine if a larger displacement engine has more potential for power?
it just depends how thin you want to make the block and head
and what you really want is a large diameter bore
>>13834171
>vertical V6
That's cool as fuck
>>13834156
welcome to the future m8
>>13834222
If in the future supercars have 300hp, I'll live in the 90s when they had 600
>>13834222
>implying hybrid cars will have low amounts of power
>>13834191
small for a 3.3 litre as well
I've been pondering putting one into a fiat bambino
just needs a cooling system as it normally snorkels water from the ocean
>>13834256
>>13834280
>bambino
Would that be a 126 or a 500?
Rig up some race fans that never turn off
>>13834256
hold up there speed demon
such powerful cars exist in spite of laws that would otherwise prohibit their existence
I feel bad for the GTR, its now irrelevant
>>13833727
Sneaky Pete is the GOAT symbol
Viper ACR is raping everything at the track right now
The last hurrah for the viper ;__;7
>>13834310
it is an old export name for the 500
I could go for a 126 as well
>>13834354
126 doesn't have the 500 tax on it at least
Grab a Polski for extra points
>>13833922
But the Viper beats all of them.
>>13834377
might have to go full Slav wit it
A better picture would be "8.3L V10 3,374lb; 3.8L V6 3,813lb; Nippon flag burning"
Displacement is completely irrelevant, anyway. Only the eurofag taxman cares about it. Displacement doesn't necessarily mean the engine is larger, heavier, or less efficient at all.
>>13833727
You know you can replace emblems with aftermarket ones?
>>13833754
>>13833757
>>13833787
>turbo the pushrod v10
yeah sure, will cost more than working with the already turbod engine that has proven 'reliability' (implying any 1000hp+ engine is reliable) over 1000hp, and can get there quite easily
I dream that one day dodge will break from fiat. Release a viper with a twin turbo v10 the hellcat viper with a chimera was the logo
>>13834404
>Dodge
>Winning
>>13834347
>They said that I was irrelevant.
>They said that I was antiquated.
>They said that I was outdated.
>They gave me an expiration date.
>They brought in newer, more powerful models.
>They told me that I was a thing of the past.
>I will show them, in my final moments of passionate, unstoppable life, that I am the one who grasps the sun.
>I will show them that my legacy will echo in screams for all eternity.
>My enemies, though they outlive me, will know my name as their finest adversary, and no glory will come to them in my demise.
>>13833742
I need a Viper in my life so fucking bad
Plus you could have no nannies all the fuckin time in a first gen.
>>13838209
>you could have no nannies all the fuckin time in a first gen
True, but it'll kill ya.
>>13838209
I think only the latest gen got traction control, could be mistaken on that though
>>13837373
A properly done 1500hp Viper will be far more reliable and durable than a properly done 1500hp GTR
>>13833882
>wanting a powerband
get a load of this fag
>>13838220
Yeah they're required to have electronic stability control now
Too many assholes ruined the fun
>>13838244
>Too many shitters ruined the fun
FTFY.
>tfw bought the last model year of your car that doesn't have ABS/TCS/ASC standard
Why does the Viper get no respect?
I wonder how many have ever been sold outside of North America. I suspect very very few.
>>13838258
Touché
>tfw
>>13837373
Are you seriously implying the valvetrain affects the ability to turbo a car? Fucking christ, neo-/o/ everybody.
>>13838298
I blame this thing.
>>13838244
In most cars, you can completely turn it off.
>>13838314
It's the thought that counts
They don't care about my life, they just want my money and for me to have fun
Does anyone know the 0-60 times on both cars?
The winner is superior
>>13838165
So /o/ is this a cringe edit or did I do gud?
>>13839160
both
>>13839160
>>13839160
the quote was gold
the picture is fucking awful
>>13833684
Viper has a higher performance ceiling after upgrading as >>13838228 suggests.
>>13841189
Why the fuck would you mod such a fast car much, anyway?
Get a normal Viper if you're going to turbo it and make a straight line car.
the nissan is ugly, but it'll still be driving around 20 years later even after being abused by it's dickhead owners commanding a respectably high price while the viper will be relegated to being a garage queen while some dipshit raised by boomers believes that one day it's going to be a priceless collectible ignoring that vipers can be bought for as little as $12k
Reasons why new ACR is fast as fuck are:
-good amount of downforce
-wide as fuck tires (wider than these in 918)
I'd like to see how it handles on wet track.
>>13833684
can you turbo that v10 or will it implode?
>>13834123
where do you put your luggage?
>GTR
supercar you can DD, but not a "driver's car" (read: meme car)
>Viper
stupidly impractical but probably more rewarding
I'd take gtr because I live in canada and I don't think viper could get up a snowy hill
>>13843987
why the fuck would someone that's obscenely wealthy need to lug around fucking luggage you 20th century pleb. they're soo god damn rich they can just buy whatever they need then throw it away before they go back home because of delicious modern income inequality
>>13843997
I'll take snow tires for 500, Alex
>>13844037
you'd have to put truck tires on the rear wheels of a viper if you can even find a rim that would clear the brakes, and have regular car snow tires on the front. the viper is just retarded
>>13844037
>what is ground clearance
>>13843982
You can do whatever you want, anon.
Don't let anyone tell you "no".
