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Looks like you almost washed out when you hit the grass.
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>>13691976
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looks like he almost washed out when he hit the grass
>>13695556
Looks like you almost washed out when you hit the grass
i like my motorcycle.
>>13695556
5th for the cagers are buttmad tonight.
We're going back to normal soon, right guys?
What kind of motorcycle should I get if I want to convert it to an electric motorcycle?
Something that's cheap and affordable in case i fuck up and easy to mod
Since it's a conversion I don't think CC matters, but something light that I would be able to get up to speed in so I can travel across the state.
>>13695573
>once you almost wash out when you hit the grass you never go back
>>13695575
A bicycle.
>>13695575
no liter no peter so make sure to use at least 1 liter of battery acid
>>13695572
Tbh now that I think of it, extreme right wing vs feminist is the exact same situation as cars vs bikes, cars vs bicycles, cars vs hybrids
>>13695577
tfw you almost wash out when you hit the grass you never go back
>>13695584
just make sure not to wash out when you hit the grass
>>13695575
Dirt bikes.
>cheap
>light
>simple
>durable
>so I can travel across the state.
Good luck doing that with an electric bike. I hope it has enough torque to pull a trailer full of batteries.
looks like almost you washed the grass when you hit out
>>13695575
some 90s or early 2000 honda or suzuki standard. should be able to find one cheap.
or search craigslist for some like "broken motor"
>>13695597
electric motorcycles can go pretty far anon
why did this become an instant meme?>
>>13695604
Do they wash out when they hit the grass?
>>13695614
I don't know, m8. But to be honest it looks like he almost washed out when he hit the grass.
>that feel when washing out after hitting grass
also dig this shit bruhs
http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/state,wa/auction/view?auc=1470352
>>13695614
mybad
>>13695593
But cyclists are shitheads that cause problems and accidents and deserve the shit they get.
>>13695614
well it did look like he almost washed out when he hit the grass
also its the most fun ive had on dbt for the past 4 days tbh lad
>>13695604
100 miles isnt far.
>tfw I didn't even hit grass
>>13695662
>posting one sentence is the most fun you had in the last 4 days
tfw washing out
>>13695674
and yet you almost washed out
>>13695669
>go 100 miles until you need to recharge it by plugging it into a wall
wow that sounds amazing to me
I mean, it's more in the 30 miles but that seems good enough for me, I'm not really sure how far you want something to go until you can recharge it for free
>>13695679
on /dbt/, easily
>>13695679
But that didn't look like you washed out.
Washing out is when your front wheel slides out.
>>13695679
holy shit
he actually washed out when he hit the grass almost
>>13695686
>>13695575 asked for something that would travel across the state.
Unless he lives in Rhode Island he wont make it far.
>>13695709
looks like you washed out when you hit the grass
>>13695575
don''t be a retard you get an electric bomber.
they are actually cool.
things do a good 80km/h
>>13695719
anon how big do you think a mile is
>>13695726
I hope you didn't wash out when you hit the grass
Gents,
Been watching the classifieds and craigslist in my area to see what comes up for my first motorcycle. I'd like to be able to drive on I-10 and highways with it but would also like to take it on the gravel/dirt/caliche roads in my area.
So far it seems ninja 250's come up most often while dualsports appear kinda rarely.
How badly would it affect a ninja on the interstate if it had dual-sport tires? Would removing the bottom fairing and installing a skid plate be worthwhile mods for what I'm after?
>>13695556
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>>13695734
i've been washing out when i hit the grass before it was cool
>>13695693
is that R1M behind you?
did you talk to the guy about that bike? im really interesting in it.
>>13695734
just stay off that front brake. i hit grass going 60+ saturday and didnt go down
>>13695709
Fuck man, I can't even wash put right. I'm a failure
>>13695754
some men just want to watch the wo.. I mean wash out when you hit the grass
dank
>>13695793
Wranon please
That thread, It's not about you
You won't ever overtake a car
>>13695754
>i've been washing out when i hit the grass before it was cool
me too
>>13695761
theres tons of them at the track now, base model and M alike. one of them highsided sunday. they're pretty neat. i watch out for R1s, EBRs, S1kRRs, and RSV4s as fast cornering literbikes. nearly everyone in the fast group is on a liter, but those are the ones that stand out for having 600-like corner entry speed and massive exit (helped by traction control half the time).
>>13695832
one of my friends wants the new R1 and that bike has been growing on me too. never rode a bike with a cross plane crank before. the older generation of R1s didn't interest me cause the frames had too much flex in them
>>13695832
ever see adventure bikes keep up like multistradas or something?
>>13695832
>one of them highsided sunday. they're pretty neat.
I thought it was funny how you just added in there that one of them crashed then went back to talking about the bikes again. He hit the grass and washed out didn't he?
>>13695866
Your autism is high today
>>13695556
he was coming in too hot
>>13695866
I bet he wishes he did, but it was a high speed kink and the bike was laying mid track when I came across it. Everyone crashes though. A friend of a friend tore up his brand new zx10r later on in group 2.
>>13695893
sounds lik ur mum m8
>>13695893
a 125 can't come in hot
>>13695949
You underestimate the 125 bruh
How loud is the wr?
I'm wondering if motoped is louder
>>13695729
how is getting a pre built electric bicycle more cool than converting a cool looking motorcycle into an electric one
>>13695859
If I weren't a hipster eurotrash fuck I'd be a Yamaha guy.
>>13695862
Lots of them out there, but what person will have those skills yet bring one to the track? You don't think people just randomly show up and blow out dedicated track riders do you? I did see a duc st3 in group three once though
>>13695575
>>13695969
Some guys made an electric motor. For motoped
The more powerful one. They made is a wheely machine
>>13695961
it's not that loud, I posted a sound webm somewhere. May do it again some time.
>>13696039
Bruh I have to be up at 4 am. Help
>>13696059
it's already 2 am here, so I am way ahead of you
>>13696072
4 am eastern standard time
>>13696059
melatonin brah. it does wonders
I wish I had some tits to play with.
>>13696078
I got nun
>>13696084
Will manboobs do?
>>13696084
I sometimes wish I had a gf
>>13696076
you're the winner
>>13696109
Wat
Got a new plate incase I forget what kind of bike I ride.
>>13696129
you were the first one to reach 4 am
>>13696133
>posting your licenseplate
d0xed :^)
>>13696133
oh shit anon i got scared
its a good thing you know now though
>>13696153
dang pls don't dox me
>>13696133
What does FJ09 mean?
>>13696172
The bike it's on.
a Honda FJ-09.
>>13696175
I don't get it.
>>13695556
i helped a friend with his ninja 250 today. i picked up this bike with him last month for just over 1000. cant remember what year it is, but its the newer style. has been down on both sides, but everything works well, aside from turn signals, which the fucktard removed.
i want this bike so fucking bad. he's an asshole for getting his first bike at just over $1000 and it's newish, and riding it home.
the last bike i had was about years ago, maybe more, and i had to get rid of it for some stupid reasons. fuck.
today i fixed a small oil leak he had, cleaned all the nasty oil and road shit from all around the chain area, fixed his throttle tension, fixed his choke, which was frozen in place, and a few little odd bits and pieces around the bike.
it felt good to help out a new rider, and i told him that when he is ready for a different bike, he had better sell me his, and take into consideration the help i have been giving him, lol.
damnit i want to ride so bad.
Sad baik
>>13696175
P sure that's a suzuki zx-09f. The J comes from JDM TYTE
>>13696210
i saw a bike just like that today on the road
Aww yiss
>>13696265
Noice, m8. Trick that pony out.
>>13696265
is it comfy?
>>13696265
This gets me thinking
What do you guys use to cart your bikes and shit around when you have a bike project/ have to move dwellings
>>13696320
Horse box.
i installed a quick release on my battery so i could add a usb charger. it charges my phone even when the bike is off though. how can i set it up so it only charges when the engine is on? i dont want to kill my battery accidentally.
Make noise.
We gotta show the dick.
>>13696327
Connect the charger to a wire that is on (+12v) when the key is on, and the ground.
>>13696340
so i gotta splice it? i screwed them right onto the terminals
pic related
T-t-hanks PO
>>13695556
Oh good cruiserfags are welcome again, I can post!@
>>13696375
If you want it to be controlled by your ignition key, you have to splice it or add another connector in there with a splice if you don't want to cut your wiring harness.
Or you could put a separate switch on it, but then you might forget about it and defeat the purpose.
I don't think those USB adapters draw any power at all unless they have a load (device plugged in) and draw very little even while charging your device. Unless you leave your phone plugged in for hours it's not going to drain your battery ded.
>>13696398
>>13696398
>>13696408
BAD ASS
>>13696265
gonna at least throw some padding under that?
>>13696265
jesus put down some plywood first
>>13696375
either that or add an inline toggle switch to turn it off independent of anything else
Came off my bike today, swerving/braking for a fucking cat. Feel sorry for me /dbt/.
Fuck, I bought a '80 Yama for $300.
electro start doesn't work, so ill kick it. Will be my first restoration. Cleaning carbs and finishing the tank derusting tomorrow. Sould run by weeks end.
Chrome and detail will be last.
>>13696407
>>13696426
why do you want to tie it to ignition or turn it off?
>>13696223
Very common bikes!
>http://wtkr.com/2015/10/19/driver-who-swerved-and-hit-a-motorcycle-i-dont-care/
THE CAGER DID NOTHING WRONG!
>>13696438
No ABS?
>>13696439
kaf racr?
>>13696438
is the cat OK?
>>13696459
Nope, Grom.
>>13696467
I hope not. I didn't hit it though.
>>13696468
Bike alright?
>>13696450
>i dont want to kill my battery accidentally.
>>13696460
I could, but I'm thinking of just making it my DD. I'm already $150 into parts/fluids for it. Trying to stay under $1000 total to get this thing pretty.
>>13696477
If the battery doesn't pass on a double yellow line it should be fine
>>13696475
Pretty much, considering the speed. Footpeg and and the part it's attached to snapped clean off, end of the brake lever also came off and tiny scuff on the bodywork.
>>13696450
That is the solution to the original question.
>how can i set it up so it only charges when the engine is on?
While controlling it with the ignition switch doesn't necessarily make it only turn on when the engine is on, it has pretty much the same effect of making sure he doesn't accidentally kill his battery with it.
>>13696480
U WERE BRAKING THE LAW. I DON'T CARE IF I KILL U
>>13696503
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3646bd_band-of-brothers-soundtrack-main-theme-by-michael-kamen_music
Rip brave warier.
>>13696485
Damn. I snapped my footpeg lowsiding on wet stones at 20mph but the bike was alright other than a slightly bent shift lever meaning I had to return home in 6th gear (went up the gears just fine)
Thanks frame sliders
Got two complete footpegs for 23 dollars, unbent the shifter, now that I think about it that might have been why there seems to be an oil leak near the shifter
>>13696477
wiring it to ignition is a better way to kill your battery. if you're going to store the bike just pull the fuse. you were going to wire a fucking fuse right?
>>13696527
>there's a fuse on the wires the guy posted a picture of
>there's a fuse going to the ignition-switch-controlled wires.
Why is it a better way to kill your battery though?
>>13696480
>>13696503
Jesus, is this still a thing?
>>13696569
>>13696569
kek give this to that anon that blares his horn at people for changing out of the carpool lane.
>>13696561
>need to leave phone to charge while I'm banging you mom
>have to leave ignition on to have port on
>two hours later biku is dead from ignition being on
>you dad will be home in 10 minutes
you made a tiny draw into a major one, like your mom offering anal if I come over tonight
So /dbt/, which brand ?
Givi Trekker ?
Givi Outback ?
SW-Motech TraX ?
is pic related the only to mount my phone to my handlebars with ram mounts? my bars are high already, so i'd rather not use the middle part if i dont need to.
i can't find an x grip with a socket instead of a ball on the back
>>13696577
Dropanon?
>>13696415
Eventually, this is just temporary for my ride this weekend. We will be building a fold up bed in the back for a queen size matress eventually
>>13696480
Top fucking kek.
American'ts, not even once.
>>13696569
There's a 280+ post thread all about it here >>13695136
Literally 4 year old "he looked at me funny so I broke his nose" tier shit.
>>13696599
Yep that's the way it has to be. It doesn't stick out that bad, and you don't have to make it stick straight up.
Also remember to tether your phone to the bike with a secondary strap/string unless you want to risk losing it.
>>13696618
>Also remember to tether your phone to the bike with a secondary strap/string unless you want to risk losing it.
any recommendations for phone cases with a hole for a strap? i have an iphone 6
>>13696590
id go with happy trails or jesse luggage personally
SW motech trax is the only other one i have any experience with and ive been pretty happy with them.
>>13696609
fair enough, looks tons better than the floorboards in there. you get it as a remnant or retail?
>>13696628
I think the otter boxes have them but I hate how bulky they are. I tied a string through the camera-lense-hole in my phone case.
>>13696644
My otterbox defender case has no lanyard tie point.
>>13696644
neither my defender or commuter case for my s5's have tether points. none of my other case from other brands have either.
Reposting because didn't get an answer previously
Okay guise, it's time for the all important question:
Wat bike is gewd
>no more than 4.6 l/100km staying around 110km/h
>suspension and geometry set up for comfort more than handling
>good luggage capability
>possibly long travel for shitty poland roads
>hard mode: ABS
>impossible mode: TCS
>absolute madman mode: no more than 4k euros
>oh shit nigger what are you doing mode: not a v-strom/SV650
>>13696655
>>13696665
I don't have one, so I didn't say definitively. However, I think my parent's otter box had a little gap in the plastic that you could loop a small string through. Nothing big enough to put a lanyard hook or something like that through.
>>13696676
you just eliminated your best option m8
look at the bmw 650 bikes or maybe the kawi versys 650
>>13696676
>4.6 l/100km
What is this in MPG?
I'm thinking a KLR would do it for you.
>>13696210
Ayyyy lmao
>>13696699
In the neighborhood of 50mpg.
>>13696644
enjoy saving your empty case with your tether LEL
>>13696699
Klrs are unavailable in yurop and no abs too
do you guys actually work on motorcycles?
Will a motorcycle fit in a Subaru Impreza Outback Sport ?
>>13696745
sure, why not
Buell XB12r a good bike?
Will be my daily driver.
>>13696676
Ninja 650
>>13696728
the case sticks on my phone pretty well.
>>13696729
Surely you can at least find some used. I know they were sold there at some point because there were a couple uropors in dbt with them.
>>13696739
When it needs it, yes.
>put my rear turn signals back on today
>everything went as expected for the first time ever
>>13695575
get the thing from tom cruise's oblivion
>>13696210
>>13696739
on my own and friends bikes, yes.
for a job, no
>>13696762
Gorgeous
how many CC is too much CC for a beginner who wants to replace his car with a bike for DD and has to make some long trips
American
>>13696739
No because my Harley never breaks down like most of them Jap bike owners on /dbt/
Air cooled
Change belt every 15k miles
Add gas
>>13696769
251cc
>>13696769
>American
The sky is the limit and space is the place.
Buy whatever you want. Supersports aren't a good idea as a first bike though.
>>13695575
No cruisers or scramblers and probably not too many older bikes. Maybe something with an originally 250cc engine or less.
>>13696769
Depends on their bike.
For a cruiser 1200cc is respectable
For a sport 1200cc us absolute mad man
>>13696778
Is a 500cc or 650cc bike too big for a first bike?
I don't want to get a 300 and be disappointed.
>>13696739
Do you consider this working?
>remove windscreen
>put on frame sliders
>replace brake lever
>replace mirror
>etc
>>13695949
fucking lol, you can tell the bricks are slippery from the reflection.
>>13696778
are you a madman? >125cc and he'll be roadpaste
this is first bike after all
>>13696787
My 1200HD is tame compared to a literbike but still too much for a first bike. 750cc is about right for a cruiser firstie.
>>13696788
650cc twin and off you go. If you're planning mainly long trips then yes, a 300 is p stupid, coming from a 250 owner
>>13696788
no
citation: i began on a 500 a month ago and still with a bald as shit rear tire have not killed myself
u can do it
>>13696788
Honda CL350 is actually a pretty good starter. Not so slow as a 250 but still stays light and comfy.
>>13696788
suzuki sv650
ninja 650
yamaha fz6r
yamaha fz07
i fell for the 250 meem and and 300 will be annoying to commute on.
>>13695969
because you'll actually wind up with an electric vehicle instead of a tard half project that sits in your moms garage for five years
>>13696769
Depends.
I'd aim at around ~650cc and 70-ish HP (so no 600cc sportbikes, ala R6, GSXR600 etc) and if you want a cruiser up to around ~1000cc.
Read the sticky, get educated.
>>13696133
that would have been cool 7 years ago
>>13696195
>>13696175
the amazing thing is it was available!!!!
>>13696634
Retail, just thin indoor outdoor carpet, was like $18
>>13696809
unlike you i actually finish and accomplish my goals
>>13696755
I like my Buell. It's definitely a manly man's bike tho.
Only complaint is that while it is really fast under 90 mph with gobs of torque, it is not as fast as a 600 in the triple digits and really dies out fast around 135 or so.
>>13696847
sure you do
>>13696859
How is the insurance cost on the Buell? As expensive as typical sport-bikes?
>>13696859
Being honest I don't plane to go faster than 100mph.
Im expanding a wallpaper folder. Post wallpaper-quality pics of japanese bikes you whores
>>13696917
if the plane don't go faster than 100mph it never take off
>>13696934
Is this gud? Want the full-size image?
>>13696934
>>13696934
>>13696939
Yeah but I don't own a plane.
I'm talking about a buell that will be my only transportation for a while.
>>13696934
>>13696947
Yuss
>>13696934
another
>>13696956
Please no fatman bikes
>>13696934
anything ending with an "s" in the file name is resized so if you want a bigger version, just say so.
>>13696986
>>13696986
what about old man bikes?
>>13696977
Original file was over the filesize limit so here's the full resolution with slightly less quality lol.
what kind of oil are you using?
>>13697029
Currently using Yamalube conventional 15w-50.
Used Rotella T6 before but I think it was too thin for my use. Might try Rotella T on my next oil change.
>>13697035
is that hoodie over jacket, or armored hoodie?
>>13697046
Hoodie over jacket
Cause then you can zip it onto th epants
>>13697035
>tfw no 690 hooligan bike
>>13697058
buy one mudkip, you got the dosh
also are those horses legit
>>13697029
T5 10w40
Need 3 season gloves, below 50ºF is too cold in muh summers.
>>13697064
There's a raptor in there to0. probably why they're running.
This is one thing that scares the shit out of me. Breaking down on the fast lane that has no shoulder. Luckily it was during traffic time for this guy, but even then.
>>13697084
they're coming
>>13696897
I don't have insurance. Not required in my state. I think I was quoted liability at a hundred and fifty a year I think.
>>13696917
Then the Buell will be all you'll ever need. Torque is awesome. Makes it a really good commuter.
>>13697024
thx bruh
>>13697097
>R6s
KEK!!!! not even a real R6 so fucking gay.
>>13697064
i wish, i have too much other shit to kill my budget already.
plus around here even the used ones sell for retarded amounts of money.
>>13697113
i dun geddit
>>13697121
it's not actually an r6
it's like a noob's r6;, less power less cool
>>13696603
no, this guy >>13697096
>>13697125
hmm so like an FZ6R or something like that?
>>13697132
mmm try like a red headed thundercat stepchild
I do my MSF course in 3 days pals. How easy is it to pass?
>>13697125
>>13697121
HE thinks its a real r6 kek!
>>13697138
Very easy if you're somewhat sentient, have some coordination, aren't retarded, and don't drool over harleys.
>>13697126
I actually saw another motorcycle/crash today. Or at least the aftermath. There was a motorcycle laying on the ground and double yellows everywhere.
I guess the guy just washed out.
.webm partially related. I forgot to turn on my cam this morning and didn't record it.
>>13696569
I like it, but I wear a backpack that would cover up the letters.
>>13697080
this. I used my ski gloves and balaclava the other day and life was so much better
>>13697147
>motorcycle laying
>laying
>not lying
>>13697143
spoken like a true nobike
opinions on the Z1000? looking at an 08 model dealer used. anyone have any experience with one?
test rode it for 30mins and loved it but was wondering if anyone had any negatives on it?
>>13697182
>any negatives on it?
It's a Kawasaki.
>>13697182
>and loved it
there's your answer
>>13697182
It looks worse in picture than it does in real life, srsly
>http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/mcy/5241724273.html
>13 gallon tank
an entire road trip without a single gas stop
Pod filters are like $250-500 easy.
Is there a DIY way?
>>13697223
>gas
>not converting your bike to electric
do you even live the /cyb/ world?
>>13697126
Oh no he didn't! Did you guys see what this guy just did? He crossed a double yellow! Just because a car is broken down in front of you and there is no shoulder, does not mean you can cross a double yellow. You better stay behind that car until that car can move or a tow truck comes.
OH EM GEE!!!
>>13697242
90 degree bend PVC pipe + cheap ebay pod filter
>>13697248
I'm not sure if you're sarcastic or not./
>get crash bars in mail
>excited to get HEKTIK without trashing my fairings
>realize I don't have a allen wrench big enough to remove the engine guard bolt that you need to replace to install bars on my FGS
>or a torque wrench
>already dark
>can't ride at night on permit
>gonna bike to dales hardware
No hektik riding today I guess
>>13697214
yeah im looking at one thats fully black, not a fan of the brown/bronze seat.
pic identical to one im looking at
>>13697249
the problem is more or less attaching it to the carb
>>13697265
Oooh. I likey.
Good luck with it and enjoyyyy.
>>13697242
They sell those at autozone for cheap
>>13697244
>not converting your bike to electric
Enjoy being a cuckboy fagget!
>>13697213
yeah, seemed comfortable with nice power and really fun.
but i guess anything would after my tiny ninja 250.
>>13697269
hmm, maybe try to find some sort of flange like pic related?
>>13697251
I only honk at retards who cross double yellows.
They cross double yellows illegally to get one pole position closer, but are still stuck in traffic. They usually only have one passenger, when carpool requires to, and are generally driving like jackasses and our moments away from being in a car crash.
>>13697294
That's a good idea, but the bolt pattern is kind of fuckie.
how much would I pay for it to be CNC'd with a flange?
>>13697294
>>13697276
>>13697269
>>13697249
Stop helping the harley spam guy.
>>13697312
way more than what it would cost to purchase one. Find one the same diameter and drill new holes. its the cheapest option although not the cleanest
>>13697303
two*
>>13696172
do you like that bike> comes of as the perfect first bike for me, streetable(can go fast) but not to spory so i can ride for a while
>>13697312
>>13697316
if you could find something like this it would be sweet. drilling new hole is chump shit. paint it black and youre well on your way
>>13697303
Fair enough. Your webm related was very justified imo.
>>13697320
this one too.
I didn't know mini coopers had that rally stripe there
>>13697315
>harley spam
guess how many times i've posted in this thread. How many times have you?
>>13697303
>it's okay if I decide to share a lane with a car to pass it
>oh shit this car is pulling up beside me in its lane and passing ME
>NONONONONNO lane sharing doesn't work that way
>LOL I'll just ride down these double yellows crossing back and forth because lane splitting isn't illegal (it actually is on double yellows)
>NO U CANT CROSS THE LINES, CAR
>BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
>>13697340
>>LOL I'll just ride down these double yellows crossing back and forth because lane splitting isn't illegal (it actually is on double yellows)
k, sorry
>>13697312
why not just keep the stock airbox? Fitting up ghetto intake like that is going to fuck up your fuel mixture and performance
>>13697330
Later when you see 100 harley baggers dont even get mad, fag.
>>13697354
>>13697360
uhh ok? hide the posts if you dont want to see them. thats what i do
>>13697354
just because you didn't get ticketed doesn't make it legal. Those cars you're always bitching about didn't get tickets when they crossed the line
>>13697366
