Get in here, aviators and aviatrixes!
First for helicopters and cameras with rolling shutters.
I haven't been able to fly for a month now because the only available Cessna has been perpetually stuck in maintenance limbo.
Please kill me.
>>929678
Is it at least warm where you are? It's gotten so cold here that the chopper I fly has been shuttered in its hangar for weeks at a time
>>929658
How about some disc-loading?
>>929687
I just love the engineering that went into the Robinsons (R44 especially). Everything seems so damn flimsy but it all comes together magnificently well - you can really tell they were just paying very close attention to weight.
>>929691
The tail rotors on the 22 and 44 are works of engineering genius themselves. Frank Robinson really knew what he was doing.
Shame so many people shit on them despite knowing nothing about them because a bunch of insufficiently trained 'pilots' killed themselves doing dumb shit in his aircraft.
10 hours in. Did some touch-and-go and pattern practice yesterday. Instructor said she's really happy with my progress so far, so that's a plus. I am embarrassed to say that I have a harder time taxiing the plane than flying it. I can't ever brake properly and the plane always goes to one side.
>>930366
wait till you start in a multi, 2 engines with different power setting for taxiing gets a little tricky.
>>930366
they should,, pull the wings offa wreck plane., mount Firestopstuff,, thick dual shoulder straps.
,, not intended for flight,,outa time engine, boinged prop,,, slick tires, Cheap.
,learntaxi,, radio chat, and fearof prop.
is being recommended for your first solo after 7 hours good?
How long does it usually take on average?
>>930556
Somehow I doubt you flew your first solo after 7 hours
I think I went solo after 12. 7 is really fast.
>>930577
If the weather holds out then it's happening today in two hours.
What happens if you need a poo and you're flying?
>>930773
blue ice.
>>930787
or,,,, unconventional airmachines.
, first attached flight?, 4,, years old., 0 hours instruction.
,,, firstrue solo?, 3 hours ground instruction.,, 0 hours dual.,,
,,,, total flight obsessed,, RC,,ballons, rockets33,,Birds.
, bought first aircraft, 700$.
Any recommendation for a 6'7" tall line backer who want to fly?
Currently over weight but should be about 250lbs this time next year.
Have about 40k saved up.
Havent flown in 15 years...
I miss flying.
I used to do cx glider when i was in highschool
Then i went to school, got fat and havent flown for years
>>930787
Flying airplanes is easy as fuck. My first airplane solo was at three hours. Three fucking hours, not making this shit up. Yes, my instructor was a piece of shit and we most certainly did not cover all the requirements of FAR 61.87 but after three dual flights he sent me up alone for a few laps. In hindsight, knowing what I know now, I would have never gone along with it, but it went about as good as it could have gone.
My first helicopter solo, on the other hand, wasn't until nearly 30 hours. But that was in a much more structured environment and I actually felt like I fully knew what I was doing in the aircraft by the time I went up alone.
And now I'm a dual rated pilot and heli CFI, and I question my decision to endorse a new solo student for the first few seconds every single time I step out of the cockpit on their first solo flight, no matter how many hours they have. Shit is fucking scary.
>>930787
My first solo was after 20-ish, too, but 7 is a bit fucking rapid
>>930809
Find a plane with a lot of legroom
Did some patterns in 20 kt, 45° relative to runway, wind in a freaking DA-40.
Man, was I literally flying sideways. That shit wouldn't turn, no matter how much I stepped on the rudders. I ended up over-shoting the runway but eventually learned by trying some wider patterns. On the other hand the noob controller made a couple mistakes (gave the wrong active runway, told me cleared to land while I was actually #2, etc.) that made the whole ordeal pretty frustrating. Add to that I was feeling a little dizzy from the weather, and last night's party, I forgot my power settings two times.
I was almost sure my instructor would clear me for the solo (currently @ 30hrs) but this made us think I actually need a lot more practice.
Well, it was fun at least.
>>929649
Ok, I need some help. I want a small, light, single seater, single engine plane that's fast as fuck. Does such a thing exist?
>>930895
>I forgot my power settings two times.
What the hell does that even mean? Like... does your instructor have you land with a specific power setting instead of just adjusting power as necessary?
What the fuck
>>930914
Nope didn't mean that. I have to reduce RPM to 2400 and pull back throttle to around 19" as soon as I hit 1000' AGL (European noise requirement, but unnecessary in the US. However my school makes all the students do that). For landing of course it's adjust as required.
![Remove-Before-Flight[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mN9vecN.jpg "Remove-Before-Flight[1].jpg")
If you own one of these you're the biggest faggot of the aviation world.
I cringe anytime I see one of these on a keychain or kitbag
>>931004
>yfw people just keep them on their car/motorcycle keys for no reason and they don't even fly
>>931007
even worse
>>931004
seen these attached to a few people's bike seats in racing, I thought it was pretty clever.
>>931004
>>930773
Land and poo
>>930900
Subsonex
>>930900
Build yourself a Midget Mustang or a Cassutt racer.
Saving up for a 182.
Should i go new ish, 2014-2016
Or older 1980's but with a turbo engine
>>931139
It's basically the same airplane, hunt for good deals.
>>930773
Land your helicopter at a McDonalds and take a shit.
If you're not flying a helicopter, God have mercy on your soul
Also, the big problem during flight isn't so much needing to shit as it is needing to piss. That stuff in that gatorade bottle isn't gatorade
>>930900
>>931158
>not having an IRON BLADDER
>>930921
Gotcha. Noise abatement in the US is airport-specific, but I reduce power like that anyways (well, more like 2500 and 25" but the RPM really is the biggest thing) just as standard practice.
>>930787
Or were going an intensive course where they were flying every day.
>>930773
Needing to poo is a sure sign you did not plan the flight very well. Peeing is a more common issue....
>>931171
I, for one, go before I get into a cockpit
Was in jump plane. Fairing it to a new airport. Have copilot.
He get the runs. Hanging ass out the jump door, with a chute on, no pants. Shitting for a solid 15 min as i am laughing and tring to keep a slight right bank so he wont fall out
>>930895
Flying hungover? The fuck is wrong with you? As a student OR a professional, you should always step up to the airplane having done everything you can to be well rested, alert, and healthy. That means no parties the night before a lesson you fucking dunce. As an instructor, it pains me to see students throwing their money away when they show up not physically and mentally ready to learn. I wouldn't let you near my airplane.
>>931389
I never said I was hungover. I only had one beer the night before and even that was 10 hours before my lesson. I always respect 8 hours bottle to throttle. Dizziness was mostly because of weather and the high pressure that day, a little because I was not rested well.
non-aviator here, say you have a recreational license and own a small seaplane, are you able to fly whenever if you're exclusively staying near the coast or do you have to file a flight plan or something first?
in the USA which probably matters
>>931393
You said you were dizzy because of a party the night before. Fuck you. Also, fuck you.
>>931448
you dont need to file a flight plan, and you can fly anywhere except for prohibited areas.
>>931448
Almost nobody has a recreational license. Folks either go for light sport or private pilot. Light sport and recreational pilots can't fly at night. A recreational pilot may with an endorsement, I believe. A private pilot with an unrestricted license can fly any time of day or night.
Flight plans are not required to fly with a recreational, sport, or private cert.
Recreational pilots can't go on cross country flights of more than 50 miles, and they constantly need flight reviews..
My advice is forget the recreational pilot cert., and go for private. It's not much more Instruction required, and the privileges are much less limiting.
>>931475
>>931477
Thanks, sounds good
I'm still on the fence about whether or not I want to go for it, if I do it'll probably be at least a few years down the line
Having my own plane is a lifelong dream of mine, it'd be nice to be able to just run down to the Cape on a nice summer's day, hop in and buzz around for a bit
No way I could afford anything like that until I finish my degree and start a real career, though
I'm stuck with simulators for now, I guess
>>931448
Go straight to private pilot, it's how you can crack into aviation as a career and the only restrictions on you are to avoid the flight levels and not take too many people. Also, seaplanes are a different rate than land-based aircraft, and you need extra training for them, anyway
>>931499
If you want to fly that badly, you can turn it into a college degree with a Part 141 college course and graduate with a commercial cert.
>>931501
DONT FUCKING DO THIS ITS A TRAP YOU'LL BE IN DEBT FOR YEARS
Part 61 is much, much cheaper.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35770021
Woman smuggles baby onto plane.
Something to do with a transfer being rejected or something.
How do you guys feel about a new private pilot going on a long cross-country? Like I'm talking Iowa to California. I'd be with 3 other friends. We're trying to have a fun summer, and I want to take advantage of my license. Thoughts?
>>931511
It also takes forever, and if you get a scholarship or have access to the GI Bill Part 141's a better option
>>931553
I hope you don't mean in one single shot
>>931558
Oh absolutely not. That's a 15 hour flight. Probably stop a little after 8 hours or so. And obviously for any weather or anything.
>>931569
>if you're renting, there's more worry
That's the plan.
>>931555
>takes forever
Huh? I started with my first lesson on Dec. 1 2016 and I just got my Commercial. It's not that long.
>>931553
Do it! But make sure you don't let people fuck with you. I know a guy who fried his will let electrical system because he gave sometime a jump... Then the mechanic on the field tried to take advantage of the fact... Bla blabla, long story short, if you're resourceful and have a good reliable airplane, go for it!
>>931572
If you've got the money, no big deal.
>>931573
I mean '15, oops
>>929658
>He can't pluralise 'aviatrix' properly
>>931004
I have one on my keys because I'm a chucklefuck who's always dropping them and it helps me find them
>>931573
If you're outside the US where the requirements are something I'm not familiar with, I might buy that.
If you're in the US, and seriously implying you have your commercial certificate in just over four months, after starting at nothing, then bullshit. The hour requirement alone means you flew more than two hours a day every single day that entire time.
>>931615
Is this a La-5/8 or one of those Yak aerobatic planes?
Who here owns?
What do you own?
What did it cost?
How did you do it? ( cash sale 100%, financed, partnered)
>>931760
I'm getting ready to buy a t-28A.
Awsome deal, just under 100 grand, with a spare engine too!
/gag/ do you have any hot memes. /n/'s soccer team is polling soon and there's currently only one rep on the team for planes and that's the airport general threads. To get a better representation on /n/, there should be more plane stuff.
If you got anything we can add pls post
>>931711
I corrected myself. I meant '15.
>>931553
Do it. Also pick up the book "Flight of Passage" for some pertinent reading material.
>>931771
December 15 was still four months ago.
>>931767
Good on you.
Im saving for a 182T .
My dream would be a caravan , or a cirrus. Sr22t new.
My dream of all dreams would be an avanti.
I used to see one fly oit of a local airport every day.
>>931783Shit, you're right. The day I started in earnest was Christmas day, 2014. I started flying regularly at the beginning of 2015. I soloed in February of '15. 'Scuse me for my mistake, but my point stands. I'm debt free and it didn't take that long
>>931799
See, some of us have to work for a living to pay for flight time and lessons
Take a look at who's plane we taxied by not too long ago.
We saw him boarding when we were taxiing back in.
>>931839
That guy is entirely too full of himself
>>931799
Ah, that makes more sense. I don't consider that a long time. But when I thought you were trying to say four months that seemed unrealistic.
I'm trying to remember exact time frames but I started end of September-ish 2012, and did private and instrument under part 141. Did commercial part 61 and finished it the next summer. Then I did CFI and CFII both under 61 (I think) and was done by January 2014. I took way too long in CFI though.
I'm also 100% debt free. Of course I had the VA footing the bill but whatever. I get paid to fly now, it's all good.
>>931839
C-47?
>>931985
Yes.
Do jobs that offer flying time below 500 flight hours needed even exist?
Even as second in command? Pay some 60 thousand dollars to mop the hanger floor.
>>931944
>debt free
God damn I envy you so much. I'm going to be at almost $100k with all my training and my bachelor's degree
>>932301
My first job was towing banners over the beach. Paid for my training while I was still building hours...flew my first commercial flight with them the day after passing my commercial checkride. Paid the bills (at the time), and was a decent time-builder for a year. Made some good connections with flying buddies that have benefited me even years later. Also check into aerial photography (pic related). Good luck!
How do we raise the wages of new pilots above that of a bus driver?
>>932302
I once felt like you do...then made the best choice of my flying career: UAVs. Now I'm debt-free, own 2 light planes, and just about every page in my passport is overflowing with stamps. Just something to think about!
>>932314
Huh. Thanks for the info.
Apparently there's a skydiving gig around where I live too.
>>932361
They are scum.
>>932362
Wait, what?
>>932319
How did you get into the field? I really have wanted to be at the airlines for a long time though. Literally, as a kid. But it's still interesting to hear about though.
Anyone have a recommendation for a CFI in the Bay Area?
Preferably at KPAO but anywhere nearby is fine, if it means saving money.
Why are there two generals?
Fuck off
>>932317
First year wages are very different from even second year wages. Just be patient and you'll make reasonable money.
>>932405
Different anon, but-
Skydivers and jump outfits are scum. Fuck 'em.
>>931004
Fuck you, I have one on my bag and I love it. Are you seriously cynical in one of the most expensive and enthusiast driven hobbies in existence?
If you want time and some extra cash find a glider club and be their tow pilot.
I had all my fuel paid, flew their craft, was paid an hourly and tipped per tow.
>>932643
No he's just sick of special snowflake faggots like you who have to let everyone know they're a pilot a soon as they walk in to a room.
>>932707
And it can be done as a private pilot. Yeee
>>932643
I think they're kind of gay, too, to be honest. Them and leather bomber jackets. I could see myself getting one of those goofy t-shirts off of Sporty's, though.
>>932643
>hobby
Aaaand there's the underlying issue; amateur pilots who sport things like this to let everyone know 'hey guys I'm a pilot (technically - lol but not really)'.
Some of us do this for a living yet don't feel the need to make sure everyone around us knows at all times. Yes I recognize the irony here but you get my point.
>>931760
I own a 2-seat experimental, and a 4-seat "practical" one that's the keeper. Each cost me less than $20k (paid 100%). Its a buyer's market right now....best way to become a pilot is buy a trainer with a couple parters, get an freelance instructor who needs some hours, then sell or lease-back it after you get the license. That's how you get a pilot's license for the price of gas, instructor, and hopefully minimal incidentals.
>>932488
I was doing aerial photography in Gaithersburg, where a company was using a manned Velocity with camera & UAV testing systems. I asked them about it, thought it sounded cool as shit, and started sending out resumes to every UAV company I could find. Had a few callbacks, couple interviews. Jaw dropped when they told me the pay was 6 figures for deploying to the sandbox. Soon after that, I'm spending 4 months paid training, living in a nice hotel room, company rental car. Then packed my bags to live in a tent in Afghanistan. Some guys hated it, I had the time of my life. 6 months on, then 1 month paid vacation with a free plane ticket to anywhere in the world. Best flying job I've ever had...kicker is, some of the guys didn't even have a pilots license ("you won some R/C tournaments? You know Windows and like camping? You're hired")
>>932964
Were you a Chainsaw?
>>932958
I'm trying to figure out if the dude's really tall or the chick's just a midget
>>933044
Neither.....she's an average-sized asian.
ALRIGHT BOYS
BOEING X AIRBUS
PICK ONE AND EXPLAIN YOUR PICK
>Boeing because I like the prospect of not being killed by a mental FBW system on my plane
>>933200
Neither, as I've only flown general aviation aircraft and have no concept of which I'd like better as a pilot, and the passenger experience is pretty much identical unless you're flying first class on Air Emirates
>>933200
Boenig! Cause AMERICA!!
>>933242
>Boeing philosophy
Pilots are trained professionals, we build you an aircraft that will warn you when you fuck up, you have to sort it out when it does
>Airbus philosophy
Pilots are the weakest link of the aircraft, our computer systems will pick up where the pilots fail
Boeing is more yoke and throttle
Airbus is more computer management
Boeing has fly by wire in it's newest aircraft, but the difference is that airbus computer systems are more complex, they try to compensate for when the pilot fucks up.
>>933262
I like the Boeing philosophy better if that's the case, the more complex something is the more liable it is to fuck up
>>933283
>the more complex something is the more liable it is to fuck up
Humans are pretty complex...
>>933306
Humans are also self-correcting and have a conscious mind, and if a pilot feels like dogshit on that day he won't fly.
I hope you all crash and fucking die
![image23[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oMOoPfY.jpg "image23[1].jpg")
When do we get civie tilt rotors?
Would be useful for all those hard to land at small airports.
Air ambulance for the really large and sparsely populated places.
bush piloting
oil rigs
rescue work
>>933389
I saw one land at my local airport last year. I assumed is a product of Bell undergoing testing or something.
My local airport isn't too far away from a Bell helicopter factory.
I got 140kts TAS out of an Arrow the other day. Apparently it has gap seals.
>>933389
Just after we get (another) civie supersonic or (practical) sub-orbital. Not that these are impossible but I don't think the market is there. Regular 'copters and jets are just too good for a fraction of the price.
>>933446
Think about StBarts' Gustaf III airport.
Where one end is a mountain side and the other is ocean. turboprop airplanes land there at extreme danger.
A tilt rotor could have the same speed, capacity, and range. Yet the landing and takeoff would be boringly safe.
>>931839
Would rather fly in the C47 any day of the week
>>931032
I need to get one of those tanktops for my girlfriend
>>931158
FAR 91.119
FAR 91.13
You'd probably get your certificate yanked for these infractions alone
>>933463
There are plenty of situations where the speed and range combined with VTOL would be super handy! But what's the traffic out of St Bart's? How much is a ticket? How many other airports are like that? I have no idea either! But guessing the answer is 'not really enough' to even pay for production, let alone development.
>flying is hard
>>933468
>FAR 91.119
>"Except when necessary for takeoff or landing"
>FAR 91.13
>Subjective as fuck and dependent on the situation
That said, landing any place off-airport without permission is a terrible idea.
>>931004
>tfw ur too poor to afford one
>>933490
I don't think having to shit qualifies as an emergency situation. Also, advice from a lawyer: "If you're gonna break the law, only break one at a time. " Go to the NTSB website under the Admin Law section. You can search up almost any aviation conviction/appeal, and tons of them have FAR 91.13 infractions tacked on in addition to other charges.
What's this plane called guys I can't figure it out myself
>>933615
It's a two-seater version of the B-57 Canberra
![Andreas-Lubitz-CLO_3247460b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ph0Uu1z.jpg "Andreas-Lubitz-CLO_3247460b[1].jpg")
>>933336
>if a pilot feels like dogshit on that day he won't fly.
>>933465
For $550 you can fly our C-47 and live to talk about it.
We can give you left seat time, with our instructor, regardless of any experience or certifications.
Seriously, even if you've never been in a airplane before. We'll let you taxi, takeoff, fly, do one T&G, fly some more, and one full stop landing.
We are a non profit organization. And we do our best to keep history alive and we do what we can to let the community experience history first hand.
>>933693
WHERE ARE YOU
>>933692
Personal minimums, bro
>>933693
That looks an awful lot like South Dakota, or maybe Minnesota
>>933740
Fort Worth
>>933777
nah, that's over southern Oklahoma after heavy rain
>>933631
thanks friendo
>>933389
When they stop being deathtraps
Or deathtrap memes, I'm not sure which is the case
>>933431
So what's at 4,050 feet?
>>933200
Boeing, because they build better, lighter, and coincidentally sexier airframes.
>Though I actually would prefer to have FBW w/ flight envelope protection than to be 100% at the mercy of a human meatbag in a uniform
>>933884
4,049 feet of air below you
Can DPE's give light-sport student licenses (need them to do the solo portion of training), or do I have to find a SPE specifically for that? If the latter I'm screwed because there are like 3 in my state, none in my area.
>try to get student license for private pilot training
>have to get third-class medical
>end up cancelling the application because I'm on Lexapro and would have to go through a battery of special FAA psychiatrists
The FAA a shit.
Excluding ultralights.
What is the motorcycle of General Aviation?
>>934126
Any cub variant
or LongEz for nice motorcycle
>>934126
Vans RV series
>Seats up to two
Check
>Small; can be parked nearly anywhere
Check
>Fast
Check
>Sporty
Chiggidy-check
>Occasionally ridden/flown in groups/gangs
Check
>>934126
The R22, it's small, zippy and inherently less safe than a larger machine
>>934116
a sloppy pilot, that's what
>>933900
dubs confirm BaconRider will sabotage that DME.
>>933898
I want one
>>934376
Well, I wasn't going to say anything
>737-8
>Captain is flying
>Vnav path for descent
>ATC give us a shortcut
>Update to new shorter waypoint
>we're suddenly 2000ft+ above path
>VNAV path dives to capture path
>3000fpm ROD
>tfw
>>933615
this is too cool!
>>933859
http://www.gga1.org/Pilot%20Experience
Is this you?
>>932964
Did you work for the military? Because that sounds like a too easy way into a military job. What kind of work did you do as a drone pilot in Afghanistan? Reconnaissance?
>>934450
I was riding in the back of a JetBlue plane that made an approach that was just shy of an emergency landing in its descent rate and turning. It was a bit wild.
>>934745
how do you know?
>>934760
How do I know it was wild? Because it was wild.
>>934818
kids,, 5 hours, from Vancouver.
Is it possible to be an aircraft mechanic without military experience?
>>934854
Look up A&P mechanic schools if you're interested in that.
https://youtu.be/R3cYVEEJkrU
So do you have to be rich to fly as a civilian? What kind of jobs do you guys have? Just wondering if it's even possible to fly in my future.
>>934884
It ain't cheap, I make ~$600 a week a good chunk of my take-home goes into furthering my training, sometimes as much as half of it. Last I checked, there are financing plans available for it if it gets too expensive, though.
>>934915
What's your job?
What aviation YouTube channels do you guys suggest? More looking for a more educational one.
>>934915
Same here. 19 yo, making about 690 a week and I contribute about 400 of it towards training (about 2.5 hours on da 40).
You don't have to be rich, but you should prioritize your spendings. I don't have a rent, nor a car payment so it makes sense for me to spend more than half on training. It would be different if you had some financial responsibilities.
>>934930
I'm 19 too. Did you get into this yourself or was it in your family?
>>934943
No, I'm an immigrant to the US from a third world country. My family is strictly middle class, and has no ties to aviation. I was looking for a hobby, and flying seemed exciting. So I decided to go with it.
>>934884
I'm dirt poor and I fly everyday. Of course...it is my job...and it's why I'm dirt poor.
>>934884
Yeah it's expensive. here in the UK around 80-90k all in to complete training.
Similar prices worldwide. Some governments give (or used to) grants to people who wants to be pilots. I had a few colleagues from the scandinavian countries that got grants for training but I don't know whether they still do that.
>>934918
Flight Chops
Pic dump time!
Fresh OC for the masses!
>>935141
I had originally intended to go out over the mountains, but there was a lovely cocktail of turbulence and wind that I didn't want to chase with mountain flying, so I thought better of it
>>935143
So, I took it out over the coast, instead
>>935144
The wind was still strong enough and I caught enough updrafts to make it a wee bit crazy, even over the flatlands, and I was constantly putting in more and more right pedal to keep her in trim
>>935145
Also, I snagged a pic of my feet, because shut up, that's why
>>935146
There wasn't a cloud in the sky, and Mt. Washington was looming large over the horizon. Unfortunately it didn't come out too well in the camera.
>>935147
And I forgot my pic because I'm apparently a moron
>>935150
I came in a bit shallow and was crabwalking a bit on my final, but oh well.
>>935043
Enjoying this one so far.
>>935163
He does a whole series of videos where he gets his lady friend to overcome her fear of flying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHwZNmYwYRA
I think he did it too gently. Better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrf8vJp5MA
>>935214
kid gloves gotta come off
get her started with some AILERON ROLLS and STEEP DESCENTS
Fucking kill yourselves flying fucks, I hope every single one of you crashes and burns to death.
>>935521
Ok
>>935521
rude
>>935521
edgy
>>935521
I hope you get hit by a bus while crying and raging at motorists about sharing the road you spandex wearing faggot.
I really do wish they still made classic-looking machines. So many aircraft today are so soulless.
>>935521
If I die young this is definitely the way I want to go.
Crash and burning at 200 knots.
>>935521
>>935536
>>935540
>>935570
We fucks, we flying fucks, we band of fuckers. For he that flies with me shall be my brother; be he ne'er such a fucker, this day shall gentle his condition.
And cyclists, on the ground shall think themselves accurs'd they were not pilots,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That flew with us upon this flying fuckers day.
>>935699
I feel ya
>>935854
Those old Douglas planes are resilient bastards.
The fact that the DC-3 is still in charter airline's inventories and making regular flights is fairly impressive
Holy shit after several months I have FINALLY gotten back in the air today.
Feels so good man.
Hey /gag/,
I was thinking about getting into aviation as a hobby, starting with gliders. The thing is I suffer from complex migraine. It got a lot better, I only have it a few times a year now. The symptoms include seeing jaggy lines, losing a good portion of your peripheral vision and nausea. Neurological dysfunctions like a feeling of numbeness in parts of your body and speech impairment (inability to pronounce words correctly) do occur, but are less frequent. This will last for 30 min. Then you get a very painful headache and possibly nausea. This will last for hours (up to 48)
It gets triggered by certain things which vary from person to person. For me it's forgetting to take a piss in the morning and getting a stiff neck (like from carrying a heavy backpack). There are certainly more, but I'm not sure about those.
So is it a good idea for me to take up flying? If worst comes to worst, can you land a glider with impared vision, nausea and possibly impared speech or will I die?
>>935885
Those are some nasty symptoms for a pilot, man. I'm not a doctor, but I'm not sure you'd get cleared to fly with that.
>>935885
Unfortunately, you will never get a medical with those issues.
Good news is no medical is required to fly gliders, but you do have to certify that you don't suffer from anything that would prevent you from flying. So you would be lying if you did that. And would more than likely kill yourself at some point while flying. Oh yeah only the first sentence was good news, sorry.
>>935901
Yeah, I guess I could get a prescription for antiepileptics and always carry painkillers/stuff against nausea, but that might not help and I don't want to endanger myself or others.
>>935904
I guess it can't be helped then. Thanks for the reply tho
>>935885
I don't think that would fly for a medical. Literally and figuratively.
On the subject of medicals, I'm red-green colorblind and am interested in going for a private pilot license (in the US) sometime. I can distinguish between certain shades of red and green (like those on stop lights I have no trouble with), but others I can't tell apart at all.
Do you think I'd be able to pass medical for a PPL?
>>935952
That could be a very, very, very big problem
>>935878
Fun fact:
When Douglas engineers were designing the wing, they didn't know how strong to make it.
They didn't know how to calculate stress loads on the wing. So, how do you build a wing without knowing what stress loads are?
During testing, after building the wing, they drove a road roller over it. And the wing collapsed. So they rebuilt the wing and made it stronger. Then drove a road roller over it again, and the wing collapsed again. They repeated this process until the wing stopped collapsing.
That's why the DC-3s have overbuilt airframes and continue to fly today.
The highest time DC3 is over 120,000 hours and still flying.
>>935952
Yes. What will likely happen is you get 'Not valid for night flight' placed under your restrictions. All this means is you can't solo or otherwise act as PIC at night.
To get this restriction removed, you get a SODA, or Statement of Demonstrated Ability. It's just a flight you do with an examiner from the FAA and all you do is fly around a control tower while they flash light gun signals at you. If you correctly identify the lights you're good to go and the restriction goes away.
I had a student with this, who completed his private and instrument ratings before he ever got the SODA. Kind of dumb to go that far with the training before finding out whether or not he could pass the test, but he was issued his private certificate while being legally colorblind. All he had to contend with was the no night flight restriction, unless he flew with an instructor.
>>935962
So, you're saying that if you want to build a legendary aircraft you have to crush it with a steamroller until it stops sucking?
>>935984
Kind of like how they build bridges.
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>>935854
Give it 50 years and you'll be saying the same about this.
Hey /gag/,
So I posted a few months back about the process involved in getting commercially certified as a rotorcraft pilot, with the intention of starting a career in the field. A few very helpful anons broke down the process and requirements and helped me get a ballpark figure on what the total cost would be from start to finish, which was extremely useful.
I spent a few months of considering my options, and I've decided I'm committed to starting this process. My wife just got offered a new position in Phoenix, Arizona and we'll be relocating there sometime this summer, details pending. Between her new position and my current career in insurance, we should be able to finance this process over a few years.
So my question is, can anyone recommend an instructor or flight training company in the Phoenix area? For something like this, I would much prefer to have a personal recommendation before I spend a few hours at >$300/hr only to learn the people I'm working with suck.
tl;dr
>Anyone have a recommendation for rotorcraft instructors / companies in the Phoenix area?
>>936170
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=helicopter+training+in+phoenix%2C+az+area
>>936170
Oh hey I remember you.
You have Quantum there in Phoenix. I don't much about them but have never heard anything bad. Up north a ways in Prescott you have Guidance and Universal, which are both well established and decent sized schools with good reputations (well...Guidance has got into some shit with the VA, abusing GI Bill funding, but that won't affect you as private pay).
Private instructors with their own aircraft aren't really something you're going to see very much in the heli world unfortunately. But there's three schools that are worth looking at. My recommendation is to do an intro flight at each one if you can swing it, and the one that gives you the biggest warm and fuzzy is probably your best bet.
Dash 8s are pretty cool looking, though they're more the exception than the rule
>>936177
>Anyone have a recommendation for rotorcraft instructors / companies in the Phoenix area?
>Recommendation
>"...can anyone recommend"
Wow, thanks for your input. It's so nice to know there's a resource for looking up all the available schools in an area. If only there was some way to find out if anyone had any personal experience with any of them, and what it was like.
>>936179
>Intro flight at each
That's a good idea. Look's like a lot of schools offer a discounted intro flight rate, so it makes sense to try them out considering how large the total investment is.
Another thing I meant to ask is if there are any aviation community "organizations" or forums I could join to start making some local connections in the industry. Networking and all that.
>>936182
I'm sure there are tons but verticalreference.com is the one my coworkers talk about the most. I personally only use it for the job search.
>>936182
Oh, calm your tits
>>930471
When will a car hit you on that little cripple machine of yours and either knock sense into you so you type like a normal human bean or die?
>>931004
It's a meme cliche for motorcyclists. Usually the squids have them.
>>931004
Its a balanced part of my preflight checklist...
>>936180
They've got pedigree though, I wouldn't lump them in with some of the "soulless" more composite types. Looking at you, TTX, Cirrus anything, Diamond etc etc.
Not the anon who originally made that statement either.
>>935962
>They didn't know how to calculate stress loads on the wing.
Yeah... calling bullshit on that one.
>>936310
when will you realize that your hostility issues stem from the suppressed memory of your father touching you in the McDonald's drive thru after plying you with a happy meal?
>>936319
Motorcyclists are the reason we get safety briefs
>>936346
They look absolutely nothing like their great-granddad
my baby goes in for annual today... I'm nervous guys.
Her mag drops have been passable but not great, I think she might need a cylinder and piston replaced... and when you push full rich, her plugs foul up fast unless you're at high rpm..
I know shes just a 150, but shes MY 150.
>>933200
Airbus builds the better planes, but every pilot who choses airbus over boing also likes to watch his wife getting fucked by another man.
>>936450
>implying flying an airbus isnt like getting cucked
>>936450
I mean our exit from drill is held up every time we leave so our CO can remind us to not be retards, because someone somewhere on some Big Army post decided he was invincible and rode a rice-rocket without a dome-defender, and wound up a tragic story on the local news.
>>936454
Ah, gotcha.
I ride and atgatt but every time some squid dies and it's reported in the paper I catch shit from my mom.
It's literally newsworthy when the first motorcyclist of the year dies.
>>936447
>airbus builds the better planes
in what sense?
>>936466
Not him, but the general consensus is that Airbus planes are more technologically advanced.
WHAT IS THIS
sorry for shitty quality
>>936587
C130
>>933605
I've seen emergency declared as a physep because someone needed to shit. It happens.
>>936351
It's true though.
>>936428
o-200?
Those things foul like a mother fucker. My honest suggestion? Aggressive leaning for the lead, Marvel Mystery Oil to prevent sticky valves. Works for me, and I've had serious fouling problems in the past.
>>936382
there's a pretty visible trend as far as going from the -6 to -7 and on up to the -8, at least in my mind. Also that -5 genetic makeup rears its ugly head with that high tail on the -8.
Love the beaver too but not exactly what I was getting at.
Should we ban autopilot use in airliners except for level flight at altitude, on flights over 8 hours?
airline pilots are becoming too dependent on the machine. they don't know how to fly the airplane anymore.
>>936788
This more what you're angling for?
>>936587
Looks a lot like the Four Fans of Freedom
>>>/fit/36494357
Reminder that it doesn't matter if you have a cavernous cargo bay and loads of weird bulges where the FAA says you shouldn't have, you can be Health At Every Size fuselage.
