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Why is Christian music objectively the worst kind of music available?
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Why is Christian music objectively the worst kind of music available?
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>>66422032
because christianity is lame
now catholic inspired music is top tier. gospel is pretty good also but again it's influence comes from the catholic church
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>>66422032
Somehow Christians make everything they touch worse
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>>66422032
It's religious pop music, so it's double handicapped.

Imagine you have a mentally retarded kid in front of you. You shoot him. Now he's physically and mentally disabled.

That's Christian touch on any popular music.
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Muslim music, on the other hand...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBFmA87tyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWNO1UFtdDI
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there was some pretty good christian psych folk in the 60's/70's, usually made by the super crazy ones in cults and communes
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>>66422108
um sufjan and kendrick bb
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The problem is that there is this mentality that just because it's for Jesus it's good. There isn't any thought about if there is quality behind it or if it actually portrays the messages Jesus stood for right. I went to a Christian high school and constantly got into arguements about Christian media being shit because of its lack of quality.
Still some of the better metalcore bands were/are Christian oddly enough.
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>>66422032
Too many weird connotations that don't appeal to modern sensibilities
Having said that Reggaeton is definitely a worse genre
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>>66422055
Jesus Christ you fucking edgy fag lord.
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>>66422169
hello rato

sorry couldn't risk it
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Mormons can make pretty good music though.
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>>66422169
retard phonefaggot
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>>66422032
Protest The Hero is christian and they're amazing.
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The only Christian rock song I like is Jesus by the Velvet Underground, and even that was written by a Jew.
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>>66422169
nice reply
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>>66422169
hello rato

.
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>>66422032
Some of my nephews and niece are restricted to only listening to christian music. From what I've heard while being around them, a great majority of it just copies a boring formula from whatever genre it tries to imitate, and changes the lyrics. It's very uninspired and, ironically, quite lifeless.
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>>66422169
hello rato

can't take any chances with that.
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THE LORD'S BEEN GOOD TO US
HE'S WORTHY OF PRAISE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxjX9auJe1o
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>>66422169
hello rato i'll go bald anyway
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>>66422439
Shit...

I'm gonna start a Christian post rock band just for them.
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>>66422051
this
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>>66422144
this this this
>>66422143
and here are good Christian artists
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>>66422032

Christian music can be great, even sublime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1-TrAvp_xs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVFVE2OUcRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEE7cES7EDc&list=PLm-AbNxesVMRr0GsVJc5QuKF1uyt5dCdA

the difference is between being an artist who happens to be Christian and a Christian that wants to make hack propaganda
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>>66422032
good christian music exists, but all of it was made before the 1980's
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>>66422128
Wow that's exploding with emotion.
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>>66422858
you listed catholic music
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>>66422169
hello rato

damn I don't want to go bald
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>>66422032
This is objectively among the best music available.
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>>66422932

well we've always been aesthetic patricians so
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>>66422932
Catholicism is a branch of Christianity so why draw the distinction?
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I remember one critic that really nailed down the problem with Christian music: It's music by and for people who have the answer to everything, and that doesn't lead to good art most of the time.
I think that's why bands like Skillet, though they're mediocre in standards of mainstream rock, are more highly regarded as Christian artists. They still sing about God and Christianity, but they still have fear, anger, and sadness in their music, just in those religious connotations.
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>>66422169
heIIo rato
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>>66422169
helo rato
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>>66422950
Suf is not a Christian artist
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>>66423025
Todd in the shadows?
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>>66423069
Have you listened to that album?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHspMf9Y4pA

So......this......is the....power....of.....christian """"music""""
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>>66423069
it's OK to be gay as long as you're gay for jesus
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>>66423077
Yeah. I don't remember the video he said it in, though.
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Have you people never heard of gospel music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lzqak49CaQ
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>>66423100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMdxBJz8uLM
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>>66423023

not him, but I'm guessing either 1) he thinks Catholics aren't Christians or 2) Catholic art is too good to be lumped in with evangelical shlock
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>>66422032
Hard fedora tippers cant even bait right

Heres your (you) you degenerate piece of shit cuck, bet you're also a feminist female trapped in a fat neckbeards body.
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>>66422923
Both songs are from practitioners of minority/syncretic/heretical strands of Islam (Sufis and gnawis/ahmadiyya) tho. Maybe that's the trick to good religious music, you mustn't be making it from a position of self-satisfied conformity.
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>>66423143
>Can't into Lutheran Hymns and Liturgy
Those are the whatbI should have expected, I've encountered both of those opinions irl.
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>>66423136
Ah, thanks.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=oq5QgtNQlP4

For yall you vapour meming lovers. I love it
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>>66423172
Nonononononono, I have nothing against most of Christianity. They're all alright.

However... Yeah, a lot of Christians are also normies that refuse to listen to secular normie music. This leads to bland and cynically made Christian songs that are just ripoffs of regular normie music, but everyone thinks it's great because they're singing about Jesus.
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>>66422169
hello ratooo
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>>66422169
good ol' boy rato
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>>66423274

>your post

why are you criticizing me as if they are my opinions? I'm just saying why I think HE would say that

also lutherans basically catholics (i mean that in a good way)
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The reason is because modern Christian pop music (also known as Christian contemporary), is using the music for the message, which goes a long way in killing any form of creativity.

These aren't musicians who happen to be Christians, these are Christians who happen to be musicians. The music is secondary to the faith, and therefore it suffers accordingly.
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All Christian music is just the same love song over and over
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>>66423527
>These aren't musicians who happen to be Christians, these are Christians who happen to be musicians.
Holy shit, /thread
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"Christian music" is a funny way of spelling rap """"""""""music"""""""""
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best christian music ive heard. drugs + christ = pretty gud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8lLAMugnPI
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>>66423497
It was meant as a "let us laugh at the other guy together" sort if thing but I guess that didn't come across.
Sorry, bb, didn't mean to bully
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>>66423077
Didn't know other people on here followed that channel
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>>66422169
hello rato

i want to break my family's curse
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>>66422169
hello rato
bcause God doesn't exist, no matter how much you meme
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>>66423083
yes
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>>66422169
hello rato

don't make me bald
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>>66423723
Todd is the only music critic that's uncontroversially liked on /mu/ from what I've seen.
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>>66423723
todd is cool
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>>66422169
Christian ""argumentation"" at its finest
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Art is about struggle. If you're making art about about something you are already decided on it's just boring.
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>>66423641

i ain't mad, just thought you weren't understanding me

we cool g

also

>like I care about bullying on 4chan

I'll probably be told to kill myself within the half hour
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>>66423023
reddit is a branch of 4chan so why draw the distinction ?
Catholics hate christians
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>>66422169
hello rato

not taking any chances
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List some god-tier hymns /mu/
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>>66422169
hello rato

..
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mewithoutYou are super Christian but also great. Pale Horses was the rock AOTY 2015
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>>66423023
More of a trunk than a branch, anon
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>>66422169
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u wot m8?
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>>66425062
Exactly what I was about to do.
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... Who can excuse this shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfuR39DmgwI
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>>66422169
hello rato

hey reddit
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i think you have to be christian to like it
otherwise the lyrics are just really stupid and empty and fake and frankly bizarre.

there is also an insane amount of submission and guilt in xtian music lyrics, i get embarrassed by hearing it.
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>>66422169
Hello rato...
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>>66422169
ohayo rato-san
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>>66425017
>no p/t
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsiS40rWMzY&list=PLF-92rCh83Epnmue3qUmTd86DwEJ6MPP1

How about some apocalyptic christian psychedelic moosic?
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>>66426781
This, kind of like how you have to be braindead to like modern pop or a retarded nigger to like hip hop. The lyrics are just really stupid and empty and fake and frankly bizarre.
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>>66422137
What are some examples of this?
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>>66422169
hello rato

:¬)
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>>66422169
hello rato...
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This is good Christian music
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>>66427259
>>66427133
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>>66422169
heIlo rato
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>>66422032
>bach, mozart, beethoven are the worst kind ouf music available

i really hope you're talking about christian pop anon
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>>66424503
>Catholics hate christians
Holy shit you don't know what you're talking about
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>>66427519
Yeah, I'm talking about the genre of contemporary christian. No beefs with classical here.
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This album is great.
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Anybody know of any Christian doom metal?
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>>66427532
my dad's a pastor
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>>66427715
lul
well my dad could beat up yr dad
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>>66422051
>>66422144
>>66422144
these
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>>66422032
Because Christianity is objectively the worst ideology available
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>>66422169
Hello rato
Plz no balding
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Nietzsche has a really good answer for this but he never addressed it directly.

Basically being a Christian is all about following rules and waiting to die, while good music is about being spontaneous and expressive and enjoying the feeling of being alive.

This contradiction makes the music sucks.

EDIT: For all you philosophers/Nietzsche scholars out there, suck a dick.
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>>66422169
hello rato i908078908980
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Come on man, some christian stuff is cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dwng8EpUH0
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>>66422169
hello rato


you nig
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>>66422032
I actually think it's pretty catchy
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>>66422169
hello rato

also, this
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I have the complete recordings of a bunch of country singers from the 40's/50's/60's, and they all recorded at least one gospel album. They all have the same generic sound and don't feature any of the artists' trademarks.
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>>66422032
Gregorian Chant music is comfy as fuck though
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>>66422169
hello rato I love you
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>>66422169
hello rato

This isn't spam. Fuck off, 4chan.
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>>66422215
The members of Low are mormon?

No wonder their music is so depressing.
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>>66422169
hello rato

bless me witha soft flowing mane
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there's good gospel music. And some music that talks about christianity every once in a while. But established genre +christian lyrics as a model usually sucks
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>>66422032
Christian music is the single best music genre
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>>66422169
hello, rato

cant lose this shit
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>>66422169
>getting so triggered by a different opinion you have to derail a thread
kys delusional christcuck
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>>66427638
so hard to find isn't it? too bad it isn't like slam where there are christian bands everywhere oyu look
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>>66422032
see >>>66425154
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>>66422169
Hello, Ted Cruz.
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>>66427390
At a distance he might be considered attractive but up close his face is so... weird? Anyone else get this feeling? Why would it be? I don't see anything wrong with it.
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>>66422032
>what is crunkcore
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>>66422169
Hello rato
haha jokes on you i've already inherited it :(
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>>66429269
Obvious exception.
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>>66422169
Hello Rato
(captcha thinks this is spam; why do they want me to go bald?)
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>>66422169
Hello rat
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>>66423093
Shut the fuck up, Pucci
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>>66422032
who is that meme
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>Breaking Benjamin
>twenty one pilots
>bad
Pick the first two or the third one, your choice.
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>>66422169
ohayo rato san!!!!!
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Lol at all the religious fags in this thread
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>>66434102
>please somebody post a picture of a fedora at me
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>>66422449
COME ON MAKE MAKE A JOYFUL NOISE
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>>66422169
hello rato
pls no balderino
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>>66432929
enjoy your balding
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>>66422858
This a million times this, holy shit this, thank you. Catholicism notwithstanding your music should come from the soul, not from wanting to earn brownie points with the guy upstairs. Some Christian artists are phenomenal... like... Alice Cooper (he's born-again).

>>not actually christian
>>actually wiccan, clearing out now before the inevitable shitstorm
>>i have nothing against christians
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>>66434601
>shrub shagger
>thinks his opinion matters

O I am laffin
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>>66434601
converting to wiccan won't make cute anime witches real, so what's the fucking point
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>>66434879
I've done some research into Wicca... It's a genuinely good religious path that focuses on appreciating life and personal growth.

Way better than Christianity imo
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>>66434917
>personal growth
>personally growing the numbness so it doesn't hurt anymore
>appreciating life
>appreciating life as it is without her
Why are you mocking me like this? That doesn't sound like a 'religion of peace' to me IMO
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>>66435201
No one cares about your shitty waiting, they just want inner peace.
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>>66422169
hello rato

nospamerino
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>>66432999
cause that's a girl
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Bob Dylan and Kanye West are christians
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For obvious reasons music gets shitty when you restrict it to one subject matter with very few people delivering it as any other genre but soft rock and pop

But if you really want to get into it "The Christian shoemaker does his duty not by putting little crosses on the shoes, but by making good shoes, because God is interested in good craftsmanship"

so any musician who is christian makes christian music. Boom.
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>>66422169
hello rato

this isnt spam fuck you hiroshima
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>>66422169
HAHAHA I'LL NEVER GO BALD, GO FUCK YOURSELF RATO YOU PIECE OF SHIIIIIIIIT
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>>66422169
hello rato :0 :))
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>>66422169
why risk it.
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>>66435712
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>>66422169
Hello r a t o
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>>66423910
sometimes his humor falls flat but he's the only one who goes over one hit wonders without falling into poptimist fallacies but still gives it perspective from whatever context the song was in when first released, especially when he'd show the similarities between it and other songs of its time
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>>66422169
hello rato buddy
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>>66422169
hello rato not spam
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>>66422169
hello rato :D
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>>66422169
hello rato

again
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>>66422032
Because they're spiritually focused on something external and outside of themselves, being told by what they believe that they somehow lack divinity and have to go outward to find it, and so they can never inward which is where true inspiration is.
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it just sucks
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>>66428228
t. goatfucker
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I disagree, Todd Edwards is one of my favourite artists. The only thing remotely christian about his work is using samples with religious sayings. If you're not looking for it, it's very hard to hear the christian undertones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8uKbprFjIE&ab_channel=scart1981
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Well there's the first two Violent Femmes records. Mainly the second is overtly Christian.
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Ahem, Woven Hand and 16 Horsepower.
David Eugene Edwards is a devout christian.
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>>66439675
The Gospel of Luke, 17:21: "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

So, basically, you don't know, what you're talking about.
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That Jesu record was excellent
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>>66440757
>>66440514
>>66435583
>>66433998

yeah but they don't make christian music, fucko
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>ctrl + f
>no sabbath

What the fuck is wrong with you.
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>>66422169
hello rato

my hair is all i have
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>>66422169
hello rato


g
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>>66440947
Music made by Christians is christian. In fact, everything a true Christian does must accord to ideals of Christian faith, because faith is dead without acts. Yes, christian thematic is much broader than "I love Jesus Christ, and you should too".
Also, how stupid are you, just look up that second Violent Femme's album (it's called HALLOWED GROUND) and read about Gordon Gano and David Edwards.
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>>66422169
hello ratto
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>>66427566
Alright
Still, Sleep and om are pretty good

>>66427715
My uncle is a catholic priest working for fraternity between catholics, orthodoxs, protestants, and overall all kind of christians
Your dad is stuck in 1600 dude
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>>66441120
>fraternity
What kind of fraternity are we talking about? Especially, between catholic and orthodox christians. Not that guy btw.
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>>66422169
hello rato-kuun
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>>66422032
Religious lyrical content is lame but even the music itself sucks too. The singer always has a weird voice and the melodies are never interesting or catchy. It's just annoying. Even when metal bands do it you'd think it would at least have some kind of cool factor with the electric guitars and such but no it's still lame. Christian groups seem to value the message over everything else. It's like the message is number one and everything else is a distant second. Combine that with the fact that there are a lot of stupid christians who also value the message over everything else so they have a decently large audience.
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>>66422032
God damn even that dude in OP's picture looks lame as all shit. That soul patch/crooked flat billed hat combo is a travesty.
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>>66422169
Hello rato not spam again
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>>66422169
hello rato, matey.
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>>66422032
No, Georgian Chants are fucking based. It's your fault all you can find is pleb shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC6OKIYXBxQ
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>>66441120
your uncle is a false prophet working for lucifer
I'll pray for you and him
the church has been corrupted by satan
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>>66422128
thanks for this. really sick.
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>>66422169
hello rat
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listen to Messiaen
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>>66422128
I always wondered what Jeff Buckley was referencing on that album and now I know
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>>66422439
Is Sufjan off limits?
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>>66442835
>Is Sufjan off limits?
Sufjan isn't Christian music. It's a silly meme that's persisted for years with him, but it's completely unfounded. He's occasionally used vague Christian-ish imagery and language in his music, but it's just a cheesy literary device. He just likes to wallow in quasi-religious references to sell records.
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>>66422169
Hello rato
Danny you
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>>66422169
Hello rato baldo
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NOOOO I CANT SAY HELLO RATO IM GOING TO GO BALD NOOOOO
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>>66422032

But the best music ever written is Christian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YszmEsvI6h8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdLCcQixNvg
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>>66422169
Hello rato
Hair is all I have left
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>>66422169

hello rato

lmao
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>>66422169
Hello rato
Pls don't take my hair
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>>66422169
Fuck you, rato. You're just a meme. I'm keeping my hair.
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>>66422169
Hello Rato pls no bald
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>>66422143
>kendrick
>christian music


Fuck you, motherfucker, you a ho-ass nigga
I don't know why you trying to go big, nigga you ain't shit
Walking around like you God's gift to Earth, nigga you ain't shit
You ain't even buy me no outfit for the fourth
I need that Brazilian, wavy, twenty eight inch, you playin'
I shouldn't be fuckin' with you anyway, I need a baller ass, boss ass nigga
You'se a off brand ass nigga, everybody know it, your homies know it, everybody fuckin' know
Fuck you nigga, don't call me no more
You won't know, you gonna lose on a good bitch
My other nigga is on, you off
What the fuck is really going on?
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>this thread
>pic related
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>>66422032
>>>66422055
>Jesus Christ you fucking edgy fag lord.
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>>66422032
Because there is something incredibly cringe-worthy, yet also "meta", about Christian Music Stars getting scammed into a religion and then selling their generic-sounding music to other people who are getting scammed even harder. It's like a scam within a scam.
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>>66422169
hello rato. its too late too save me
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>>66443666
>666
>edgiest high school level fedoracore comment of the thread
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>>66422169
hello rato

Couldn't risk it.
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>>66422169
>thread full of anti-religion basement dwellers
>all abiding superstition by talking to a picture of a rat to make sure they don't go bald
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Why wasn't this posted yet
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>>66443998
Why would it be? It's not even remotely Christian music.
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>>66422032
Hey let's not forget about THE KING OF EPIC NEAL MORSE
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>>66444005
>My Sweet Lord
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MY LIFE BE LIKE OOOO AAAA OOOO AAAA
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>>66444016
Are you serious? I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not.

That song's about fucking Hinduism. It's not even that obscure or opaque. he's singing about Krishna. Harrison's devotion to Indian religions was a pretty defining feature of his music, even in the later years with the Beatles.
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>>66444016
There are multiple instances of Harrison basically parroting John's "Imagine no religion" type of ideals. This isn't a Christian album by any means.
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>>66422169
hello rato

pls no bald
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>>66444051
>>66444074
Wtf? Wasn't Harrison really Christian?
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>>66444196
Nah, mang, whoever put that thought in your head was a liar.
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>>66443788
People believe that by participating in Christianity, they will live for eternity in paradise after they die, and the Christian music industry is getting rich by making people believe that partaking in Christianity includes listening to their music. The idea is that the "Christian Experience" includes listening to their music, just like how the publicity team behind Mumford and Sons wants to make people believe that the "Young, Somewhat Sophisticated Liberal Experience" includes listening to Mumford and Sons. Maybe Mumford and sons isn't the best example since I'm not familiar with any of their music, but I've seen pictures so I'm pretty sure I can tell who they're selling to. But it's more cringey with Christian music because religion is already so corny. Like even Christians will feel embarrassed for someone who is "too Christian", because even though they believe the Bible, they don't believe it THAT much. For example, if someone has way too many pictures of Jesus in their house, it's embarrassing. "Get a life". It can be embarrassing to be that obsessed with anything, but at least for people who are super obsessed with Star Wars, for example, don't believe that star wars is actually true. They don't think they're going to live forever in paradise with Luke Skywalker. But Christian musicians think that about Jesus, and they have no shame about it, and it's a little bit cringey because they're basically advertising something that I would be ashamed about. If this is an edgelord opinion, then so be it.
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>>66444196
...seriously? Like, for real? Of course not. Not even close. That's not really in dispute. His whole obsession with both Eastern religions and with the whole no religion thing was pretty much the biggest thing about him. If you know anything about George Harrison, it's that he went to India, got involved in Eastern religions, and pretty much spent the rest of his life wallowing in it.
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Yall never fucking heard of Fr. Stan Fortuna, that's why

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aaKUnzfXA
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>>66444248
I want to believe that this is just some silly copy enlightened fedora copypasta meme, but I have a sad suspicion that you actually took the time to sit down and write that out, thinking you were actually making some grand, profound statement.
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>>66444271
I did take the time to write it. I wasn't trying to make a profound statement. I don't think I was "opening people's eyes" or anything. I was just trying to clearly articulate what exactly I find to be cringe -worthy about Christian music.
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>>66444271
Is there any particular part you disagree with?
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>>66444248
Pathetic you took the time to wrote bad about christianity. they don't bother you.
God bless you I hope you find peace!
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>>66444402
kek
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Maybe it's because Christianity is already endowed with scores of traditional hymns, and any attempt to add to that, in a style so divergent from the pre-existing canon, feels a little bit like fan fiction.
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>>66422169
hello rato

i love my hair
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>>66444354
Oh get the fuck out of here you autistic shit
Go study philosophy like the enlightened individual you are
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>>66422169
hey Rato

give me at least until I'm in my 40s
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>>66444354
Yeah, it's one bullshit middle-school-tier anti-religion assumption after another. The whole paragraph is a silly mess.

Your assessment about the nature of Christianity is just completely off. You don't have to be a Christian. Fuck. I don't care. Believe whatever the fuck you want. But if you're going to hate a religion, at least take the time to try to understand what they believe and why.

Your assessment about the Christian music industry is built upon nothing more than your bullshit assumptions and you ascribing the worst motives to them. You know what? Maybe they are making Christian music because they actually believe it? Maybe they actually like that style of music? For the most part, the music is fucking awful, but your characterization of this grand marketing scheme is just bullshit. The overwhelming majority of people who make that music and listen to that music sincerely love it and believe it.

Your entire assessment about Mumford and Sons makes no fucking sense. It's just a jumbled mess of fucking nonsense.

Same goes for your whole thing about Christians being embarrassed about being "too Christian." You've got this weird, distorted, monolithic view of Christianity that I'd wager to guess has been shaped by a very narrow few people/experiences you've known/had.

Finally, the Star Wars thing is just silly. Equating a fandom culture with a religion doesn't even begin to make sense. It's apples to oranges.

If you want to hate on a religion, go for it. But at least have the intellectual honesty to try to understand it and its adherents.
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how is this thread still alive
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>>66444623
Because of that fucking Rato meme, honestly.
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>>66422169
why not
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>>66422169
Replying
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>>66444630
>implying you didn't reply to keep your hair
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>>66443883
This is why I can't take atheists seriously, senpai. They talk about religion being superstition, then they believe nonsense like diet soda is worse for you than smoking and GMOs cause cancer.
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>>66443883
i care more for my hair than religion discussions
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>>66422169
hello rato
Can't risk it bro
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>>66422169
hello rato

Also OP, all music is christian inspired because Western civilization is inherently christian.
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>>66422169
hello rato, this helps right?
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>>66422169
hello ratttttto.
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>>66422169
hello rato my friend, nice rato
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>>66443037
yeah, like it was said previously itt: he's a musician who identifies as christian and has christian imagery in lyrics. he's not writing worshipping music for another christians to consume. but nonetheless, some of his songs share his spiritual experiences.
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>>66446601
>who identifies as christian
Even that's vague, at best. I've read a bunch of interviews with him where the interviewers always want to ask about him being a Christian, and his responses are always
>yeah, i um, believe stuff about god and stuff but i'm, like, not really in a position to say anything to anybody about anything because stuff and junk

I've never really even seen him positively identify as a Christian in any traditional sense of the word. It just seems like a casual spiritual universalist. One of those "God is in everything" types.
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>>66447749
ugh
because sufjan is a true christian, if you have actually read the bible that's how you're suppose to act.
Modern christianity is garbage and fragile because they constantly need to reinforce their weak faith in him with spamming it over and over until they brainwash themselves

sufjan loves god simply as that. he's not gonna theory craft and claim stuff he doesn't understand
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Spirituals are some of the best music around
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>>66440434
Muslims are worse as people, but Christianity is worse as an ideology
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>>66440947
>Bob Dylan
>never made Christian music
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I'm gonna post some good christian albums and compilations for you heathens.
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>>66427259
Look up old lace by Emily bindiger, it's a super good song

https://youtu.be/wHu_0Bn9Gr8
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>>66447905
>Muslims are worse as people, but Christianity is worse as an ideology
ill take things people who only know Christianity ideology from parent's who don't know about it

if you get into it christianity is a solid philosophy some books are shit but there's a lot of good stuff people skip over because it makes them conflicted and tells them to not be bad people
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>>66422169
Hello rato!
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I'm a devout Christian and don't like Christian music at all. I prefer gospels if anything. I don't think the subject matter lends itself to contemporary music. However, I believe that if an artist mentions God in their music they should do it tastefully. Some rap songs or rock songs that mention God do it in a reflective way but don't harp on it. There is something to be said of modest praise.
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>>66422169
hello rato

not risking it today
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>>66447810
>if you have actually read the bible that's how you're suppose to act
>obviously hasn't read the bible
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Memetastic cover aside, this is a legit good album
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