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Objectively, the greatest album to have ever been of existence
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>>66417894
agreed

is this the part where people call me a samefag?
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Better than any classical piece ever made.
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>>66417894
Objectively the most beautiful woman on the planet earth.
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>>66417894
Listen to more music
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I can listen to abrasive, harsh stuff. I generally have no issue with sound but for some reason the high tone they use all throughout that album fucks me with me heavily. I cannot listen to it without feeling like I'm going insane and causing huge headaches. I like it otherwise though.
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>>66417894
One of my favorite albums of all time for sure
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It's my favourite album of all time, but I don't think it's the best. I just get so many feels man
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>>66417894
its not even the best anco senpai
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>>66421502
>>66417894
wew

>>66418280
WEW
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>>66421537
Absolute Garbage
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>>66421502
you're right, that would be pic related
stgstv and hcti are up there though
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>>66421597
why are you describing your own post anon?
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Plen me all you want, can't deny this their best work
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>>66421641
p l e g
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>>66421641
truthbomb
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>>66421641
Not even AnCo thinks its their best work. They discussed this in a recent interview following the release of PW

They just think it's their most accessible, which it is

And it's great, but it certainly isn't their best work
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>>66421614
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>>66421668
this (though arguing based off of what an artist says is pretty dumb)
it is one of their better pop albums though
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>>66421668
The artist himself is the last person you should care about when it comes to his opinion on the quality of an album
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Led Zeppelin II is objectively, by far the greatest album ever concieved. Bring the hate you pretentious hipster faglords, you know it to be true.
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I fell for a bit desu
good one
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>>66421914
was meant for >>66421849
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>>66421849
Looks like your new to /mu/, listen to pick related and other mu-core albums, because it is the only thing we won;t shit on.

ps- Led Zeppelin is dad-rock for fags.
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>>66421668
link to interview?
>>66417894
It's a good album but it's so overrated by this board it's not even funny. The songwriting and performances are good, that much is hard to deny, but they grew a lot after this project and it shows.
>>66421502
>>66421641
These are the two best Anco records.
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It looks like you mistakenly posted the wrong image. No worries, i'm here to help.
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>>66417894
I mean you're not wrong
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>>66421668
They also thought Painting With was an acceptable album to release so clearly they can't be trusted.
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>>66418280
I never listened this one. All i know is overrated
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>>66423161
>le painting with is shit meme
get over yourself edgelord, Centipede Hz is way worse
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Period
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>>66423345
this 100%
Painting With rivals most of Strawberry Jam
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>>66417894
Stop posting this shit album. It sounds like garbage and you can't even here the vocals. It's like you people post this to trick people into liking an objectively shit album.
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>>66417894
Anyone else?
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>>66417894
This one is that kind of music you have listen on acid?
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>>66423404
whoa there friend you might need to slow down
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>>66417894
>>66421502
>>66421599
>>66421641
That isn't Strawberry Jam
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>>66423586
okay, maybe let me rephrase it as "the best of Painting With rivals most of Strawberry Jam"
>>66423607
that's not Sung Tongs tho
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Shit bands. These threads about gay as fuck bands like Anco and radiohead saying how all their albums are the best is fucking cancer. Their music is for faggots.
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>>66423405
hehe...meme.
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>>66424082
what's your fav album famalam?
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>>66417894
Nah, it has some great stuff but too many filler moments to be GOAT forget being the best AnCo.

>>66418280
The first two tracks bring it way down as an overall albums despite the rest of the tracks being amazing.

>>66421502
It's not all that well put together though. Having better transitions would make this album 1000000x better.

>>66421537
Best AnCo related work for sure. Takes care of HCTI's cohesion problem and gives us psychedelic in a minimalist frame in a way never done before.

>>66421599
Good album mostly. Though some of the tracks aren't as sophisticated/dense as their best work, and you got shit like Visiting Friends.

>>66421641
Best AnCo work that's done by all of AnCo together. More layered, more usage of musical space, and more sounds than any other AnCo album. Easy initial accessibility doesn't equate to simple composition.

>>66421849
Eh, doesn't bring anything interesting to the game. Generic hard rock for most of it.

>>66421968
>poptimist garbage

>>66422862
>hipster indeh garbage

>>66423365
combining different forms of generic EDM, puts it one step above that trash, but that still doesn't make it good.

>>66423566
Proof that Michael Jackson ain't shit without Quincy Jones.

>>66423607
Another good album by AnCo, but this one's marred with some tracks that overstayed their welcome.
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>>66424239
>MPP is best anco
>STGSTV has a bunch of filler
>HCtI is in any way similar to Person Pitch
>Visiting Friends is shit
what are you smoking
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>>66417894
If you honestly believe that you've probably only listened to no more than 10 different albums in your entire life.
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>it's another thread about animal collective faggots arguing about which shit album is the best
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>>66424368
>it's another shitposter who thinks anyone cares about him
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What does GOAT stand for?
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>>66424756
Greatest Of All Time
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>>66417894
Doggy is the best song ever made by AnCo
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>>66417894
hey, this is not loveless
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>>66424876
>pop music + vacuum cleaners

no
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Pic related is best AnCo

>>66421502
This is the second best AnCo record
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>>66424928
IS CALLED SHOEGAZE DAMMIT
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>>66424876
STGSTV isn't just pop music + noisy effects?
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>>66425095
mean to reply>>66424928
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>>66417894
That's not pic related
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>>66425095
Noisy effects as in high pitched synths and feedback noise, yeah. The songwriting is good though
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guys....... it's time to call for some sense. literally any configuration of this music recorded from 1966-1967 is better than any album that was released
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>>66425205
I prefer smiley smile to the smile sessions but you definitely have the right answer.
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>>66424239
Why are the most ignorant people always also the most verbose about their uninformed opinions?
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>>66422862
I would claim Teen Dream has much more value, but Bloom really has been coming up to me more, so I might have to fall into it. I've never done that hard and I've fallen HARD HARD HARD into Teen Dream. I fell on my lawn as everything became white and I created life while listening from Norway to Walk in the Park.
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>>66425304
smiley smiles is the correct answer
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>>66421641
No way, MPP got boring after a few months.
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>>66424239
>MPP
>all of AnCo together
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Oh boy is this thread shit
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>>66424239
Kill yourself my man.
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>>66425744
i literally posted the greatest album of all time retard >>66425205 >>66425205 >>66425205
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>>66418365
literally who
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>>66418365
FAAAAAAAKE
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>>66424082
>threads gay as fuck
>calling something cancer
>still calling people faggots
Wow, hello mr fedora!
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>>66424239
What moments are filler on STGSTV? Other than Everyone Whistling
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Actually, OP...
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>>66424239
>doesnt like waiting for the man
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>>66418365
is that sky ferreria
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>>66424971
agree
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>>66421849
I like zep 1
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>>66417894
it's ok
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>>66417894
Lol, I thought this too when I was nineteen. I still think it's amazing.
>>66418280
God damn, you must be musically deprived. I mean it's a great art rock record, but it doesn't have any of the elements that make classical music great. That's actually a really weird thing to say given the record you posted, since it's not similar to classical music in any regard, unless you think having an electric viola makes that the case. I'd understand your claim more had you posted something like Laughing Stock or Close to the Edge.
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>>66424295
Just saying the truth. If you don't see the similarities between HCTI and PP you're deaf. Otherwise you posted nothing of substance.

>>66425318
Another substanceless post.

>>66425729
I meant as a group. Person Pitch is still the better AnCo affiliated work, but it's a solo piece by Panda Bear.

>>66425853
Jeez, hearing some real shit really causes people to make shitty posts that don't say much, huh?

>>66426117
The noise section in the opening track. Untitled. Everyone Whistling. Some parts of Alvin Row.

>>66426323
Yeah, I ain't a big fan of pop songs that don't really do anything new nor are all that cleverly composed. It's as well done and good as any typical catchy single you'll hear on a radio pop album.
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>>66421641
Phenomenal album? Of course. Their best? Fuck you.
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>>66429751
Would you care to tell the similarities between P and HCTI, because I don't hear many and I love both of those albums

Maybe Slippi sound a bit like it but even then, not that much
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>>66429751
good job explaining those similarities there man. also
>"The noise section in the opening track" (ie all of it)
>Untilted
>bad
holy fuck this is the worst taste possible
god knows how you'd react to Danse or Hollinndagain
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>>66417894
only bad thing about this one is that it ends
>>66418280
love this one, but I can't call it the greatest
>>66421502
early AnCo at its peak
>>66421537
it's a pretty nice album but I believe it's quite overrated
>>66421599
the last tracks bring it down
>>66421641
best late psychedelic pop AnCo. yet we know the best Anco is mid-career alien psych pop
>>66424971
Look, a contrarian
>>66426210
Absolute shite, such a dissapointing album
>>66426256
my nigga
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>>66424239
>Best AnCo related work for sure.
I definitely see that as being Feels, but I'd sound redundant if I put up another argument for it. I've worn myself out defending it and people still don't seem to grasp it. I feel like I'm listening to a completely different album from everyone else when it comes to Feels. I hear the most complex, vivid, and evocative music ever recorded, and the unanimous opinion on it seems to be like "Eh," so fuck it.
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>>66429751
>the opening track
>Untitled
>Alvin Row
>filler
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>>66429884
The only thing about Feels that I don't get is why people don't like Flesh Canoe
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>>66429877
>Look, a contrarian
>if he likes what I don't like he's a contrarian

>Absolute shite, such a disappointing album
How is Mount Eerie disappointing? It's Phil at his best.
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>>66429877
>Look, a contrarian
Not him, but seeing you say that in reference to Campfire Songs really rustled my feathers. The album is flawless. If you're listening to it wanting something in the same vein as Strawberry Jam they you'll be hugely disappointed. This might actually be the reason why so much of Animal Collective's best work is so underrated. Regular fans like them for different reasons than what they achieved in the early to mid 2000's, while those who aren't fans just don't bother with it. Campfire Songs is an absolutely sublime experience when listened to from start to finish. I think it's one of the best things they ever pulled off. I think it's really sad how so much of their best work just gets completely neglected. At least you know Here Comes the Indian is good, but I think Campfire Songs might actually be better, and of course I think that Feels is what they were building up to the whole time (which is why they had to go in a different direction in the late 2000's. Feels is where they reached their plateau as far as their early approach goes.)
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>>66421537
Not even the best AnCo solo project.
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I should probably leave this thread, I feel like it's not good for my emotional health.
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>>66429816
Both take a minimalist songwriting approach to create a psychedelic tribal atmosphere. The only difference is that HCTI works with less sounds and lets them be more separate from each other (thus less cohesion) while PP has many sounds going on together to give a more cohesive feel to the whole thing with far more organic transitions/introduction of different sounds.

>>66429830
>oh this guy must hate whacky sounding abrasive music that's why he's hating on my favorite stuff
Being "weird" or "experimental" doesn't automatically make anything good. There have been things far more experimental and abrasive in psychedelic music (Parable Of Arable Land for example) which is far more well done with nothing overstaying its welcome.

>>66429884
Feels is different close behind MPP as the best thing those guys have released as AnCo. That album has a fuck ton of subtle little things going on that make it fantastic. I have no clue who thinks it "eh" though I thought we all agreed that it's fucking fantastic. In fact, if we were to do a weighted average of how much all of us love a certain AnCo album, I think Feels might come out on top.

>>66429891
>boring stuff where nothing's going on
>not filler
That type of stuff is a waste of time. It's why punk music got popular when a band like Yes makes something like Tales.
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>>66426210
I still can't get over how good this album is.
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>>66430016
Campfire Songs is the worst album of early AnCo, really it's just sloppy. Nowhere near as good as Danse Manatee, even less HCTI.
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>>66430054
>>66430197
you know I was going to respond to like half of what you said because you unironically have some of the worst taste I've ever seen, but I can't fucking do it
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>>66429751
MPP doesn't have Deakin so it doesn't count as "all of AnCo together"
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>>66430054
>PP
>tribal
The only thing in that album that could be described as tribal is Good Girl because of the drum loop. Panda's songwriting has always been minimal with sparse instrumentation, but are you telling my you see Hey light or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW5-bz3JQcE as minimal? And how can you say HCTI isn't cohesive when the first 4 tracks are essentially one song?

>boring stuff where nothing's going on
>I think it's boring so it's filler
The opener and beginning of Alvin Row are essential for what Avey was going for when he wrote it. I can get if you think Untitled is filler, but I personally don't think it is

>>66430197
>it's sloppy
That's bottom of the barrel criticism, and it isn't even true. CS seems free folky, but in reality it's really deliberate. How could you call the transition from the opener to doggy or De Soto De Sun sloppy?

I love Danse Manatee, but CS is better, and it's on equal footing with HCTI
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>>66430299
as >>66430276, thank you for writing pretty much exactly what I would've written so I don't have to
all you're missing is him overrating Feels, but that's pretty common and not nearly as bad as the rest of it
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>>66424400
You replied didn't you
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>>66430197
Wow, you're just an idiot when it comes to music.
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seems you posted the wrong image, here let me help you with that
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>>66424368
>it's a music discussion thread on a music discussion board
Crazy, right?
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>>66423566
>child-molester-core
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>>66430276
I ain't the same guy as the other one. Unless you're talking to us both. In which case holy shit are you deluded; I wonder if back in the 70s prog fans were also like this when people started turning on the genre for being so bloated.

>>66430278
I already explained this in the topic before. I used that term to differentiate AnCo and Panda Bear's solo work in the context of this thread.

>>66430299
Minimal is not the same thing as minimalist. HCTI is minimal, PP is not. Both are minimalist though because of how they use repetition. CS is also minimalist, too on the longer songs especially.

There's a ton of sampling going on in PP, but that doesn't mean it's not tribal. It sounds like it's been recorded in a forest like setting with both its production and the ambient samples. The minimalist rhythms in the context of that ambient feel and the production give off a very tribal feel. There are chant like parts in the album, too.

The opening part of Alvin didn't have to be that long. After a bit you get the fucking point. The same with the part around the 6 minute mark it's there for no reason the slower cool part was before it and the faster build up part after it and it their context it achieves absolutely jack shit. The transition towards the ending could've gone better, too why wait so long for the fade? So Panda can wank on the drums longer? Really no other reason.
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>>66417894
GOD TIER

MPP
Sung Tongs
STGSTV

GREAT TIER

Feels
HCTI
Hollindagain
Centipede Hz

OKAY TIER

Strawberry Jam
Danse


UMM.....

Painting With
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>>66430618
>repetition=minimalist
HCTI and PP are hardly minimalist, though I can see it a bit more in HCTI, and campfire songs definitely is. Minimalism isn't just about repetition, it's using repetition as a base and having slight diversions as vehicles for the music to change. A lot of Panda's stuff is just straight repetition(not that this is a bad thing)

>It sounds like it's been recorded in a forest like setting with both its production and the ambient samples. The minimalist rhythms in the context of that ambient feel and the production give off a very tribal feel.
Tribal, to me anyways, is music that takes heavy influence from Traditional Music, usually African. HCTI obviously does, and the only moment that PP does for me is Good Girl.

As for your opinions on Alvin Row, I don't personally agree, but I get it. It does get drum wanky at points, but I like that

>the part around the 6 minute mark it's there for no reason
You're not talking about the "RUUUUUUN" part, are you? Because that part is absolutely essential, it's the climax of the song. If you're talking about the part immediately after that, it a transition to the third "act" of the song
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>>66430751
>Flawless
Feels
Campfire Songs
Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished
>Great
Here Comes the Indian
ODDSAC
Prospect Hummer
Transverse Temporal Gyrus
Merriweather Post Pavilion
Fall Be Kind
Water Curses
Sung Tongs
Strawberry Jam
>Good
Hollinndagain
People
>Decent
Danse Manatee
Keep
>Poor
Centipede Hz
Painting With
>Insulting
Monkey Been to Burntown
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>>66430915
>Absolute Perfection
STGSTV
HTCI
Feels
Water Curses
Fall Be Kind

>Fucking Great
Danse Manatee
Strawberry Jam
MPP

>Really Good
Prospect Hummer
Sung Tongs
Painting With

>OK
Centipede Hz
ODDSAC
Hollinndagain

>Unremarkable
Campfire Songs
Monkey Been to Burn Town
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>>66431061
>Unremarkable
>Campfire Songs
>Monkey Been to Burn Town
Seeing those two releases put together seems absolutely surreal being that they're exact opposites in terms of quality. Animal Collective is the only band where you'll see an opinion that comes off as absolutely ridiculous and yet have it appear completely sincere. You wouldn't get people saying the two worst Yes albums are Close to the Edge and Big Generator, or calling the two worst Talk Talk albums Laughing Stock and It's My Life or whatever, you you can get that with Animal Collective and it won't even come off as bate.
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campfire songs has one of the most bafflingly offensive lines in ac's discography, otherwise i'd definitely put it on before spirit

but yeah, danse > indian > campfire > hollinndagain > spirit
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>>66431402
>campfire songs has one of the most bafflingly offensive lines in ac's discography
Lol if you took that whole "color people" thing as political commentary then I think you're in the wrong frame of mind when listening to vintage Animal Collective.
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>>66431452
alright, enjoy your cognitive dissonance i guess
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>>66431528
I can't explain things, I can only understand them and feel them on a really deep level, and I know that's not what they were going form.
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>>66431636
*for.
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>>66431528
>cognitive dissonance
It's not his fault that you take everything you hear as political. AnCo has always had abstract sort of lines like that. Besides, what's offensive about it? What's so offensive about "color people say oh no 'cause think it's contagious"?
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>>66431636
look i know what you mean, but it's still juvenile at best

it's also on the last track, so by that point i've usually been lulled into not caring
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>>66417894
I like Sgt. Pepper's too
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>>66430915
>Campfire Songs
>Flawless
What? Doggy is 10/10 but at least 80% of the rest of it is forgettable.

It's relaxing in a way that you'd play it as background noise I guess.
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>>66431863
It's not my fault you can't fully absorb what you're listening to and label it as relaxing, forgettable background noise.
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>>66431863
>background noise
In my opinion, this album takes the upmost attention. You have to really hear all the nuance and emotion in it.

A lot of people don't give Geo credit for this and say that he "only pressed record". That's true, and I give more credit to Deak, Avey, and Panda for this record, but Geo strategically arranged the three mics, and I feel as though it wouldn't be the same without that. A small contribution, I know, but still
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>>66431947
This is basically what I was trying to say with >>66431929. You have to be focused to understanding it. If you're just treating it as background music you'll be totally missing out.
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>>66417894
This album seriosly sounds like shit. It sounds like if you were listening to some music with headphones on and the jack wasn't inserted properly. That is exactly what that album sounds like.
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>>66423365
ooh I love this. First time I've seen her on /mu/
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>>66432123
>listening to some music with headphones on and the jack wasn't inserted properly
I'm pretty sure if that was the case it would sound sort of washed out, or the music would just come out through the device's speakers
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>>66417894
but anco is bad and that album literally makes my ears bleed
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>>66424809
This
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>>66426210
real answer
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>>66431670
>Sympathize with the retard
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Reply to this post if you want geo to have a solo career
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>>66433091
That's not even too offensive unless your overly sensitive. Besides, it's on Sung Tongs

>>66433132
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>>66433132
I want him to make Danse 2: Not a mixed bag
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>>66417894
okay lets try this for once
>first 10 seconds "oh my what the fuck is this?"
>okay lets skip this one
>second song starts "you got to be kidding someone enjoy this screechy shit?

I got it later tho, its like modern art, makes insecure unintelligent people feel unique by liking what others dont, pic related, a pile of garbage, like your album OP, enjoy being a pretentious teenagers with zero friends.
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>>66434865
>didn't realize that only the first 3 songs have harsh noise
>implying the noise is nonsense
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>>66434865
It's not modern art, it's just noise pop. And there's only like 3 tracks with noise. Open your horizons because this is far from the most inaccessible stuff out there
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>>66434865
This post is proof that pleb filters are necessary.
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>>66421968
idgi is this just a meme or is it good
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>>66425205
I was lucky enough to be introduced to the smile sessions while on acid. Blew my god damned mind out of my skull. You can hear the crazy creeping in. Fucking neat.
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