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Learn guitar:
http://www.justinguitar.com/
Guitar chords and inversions
http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php
String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/
>Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar
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>Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg
Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd
Last Thread: >>66264773
Post meme machines
>he thinks playing guitar is impressive
>>66290309
Hey GG, does anyone here play anything besides guitar?
>>66290576
I'm a classically trained pianist and a Navy Seal. Get fucked bitch!
>>66290639
>what the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?
What do you guys think about the Jim Root Tele?
http://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric-guitars/telecaster/jim-root-telecaster/0134444780.html
Thought on the MXR Carbon Copy?
>>66290576
>playing for girls
>lifting for girls
>doing anything for girls
fuck outta here
>>66290930
a delay should not cost so much in this day & age
Also analog delay is a shitty meme that needs to die
How do I play like TK from Ling Tosite Sigure, yes I am a weeb.
>>66290925
I appreciate that Jim Root has good tastes despite the aesthetic of Slipknot. It would be nice if there were more decent guitars like his in the metal world instead of meme machines.
>>66290576
post clip of you playing anything remotely technically difficult please
>>66291181
But I actually like the sound of analog delay.
>>66290930
Seems decent, and it's the industry standard at this point. I'm probably going to get an Ibanez ES-2 instead because it's so good for doing delay time change swells.
>>66290930
The name always makes me think it's a looper and not a delay, therefore I hate it
72 Tele Deluxe RI
Custom-build parts-bass
Ernie Ball MM Stingray5
Great Divide Jumbo Acoustic
who /epiphone/ master race here?
new electric cello man here
took it in to buy an amp today, decided on the Orange TH30. I am going to be buying some effects next week; could you guys rec me pedals not listed below? (The ones below are the ones I think I want after initial testing)
>Delay: EHX Memory Man with Hazari
>Reverb: Walrus Audio Descent
>Pitch Shifter: EHX Pitchfork
>>66291477
I don't know if I'm master race, but I've got an Epiphone Thunderbird Classic-IV PRO as my first (and only) bass that cost over a hundred dollars new. My only electric guitar is an Epiphone Les Paul special ii GT. My other bass is a Rogue LX200b and my only other guitar is a 7ender acoustic.
>>66291546
Descent has some weird clicking issues, I've heard. Get a looper and a drive/dist/fuzz
>>66291578
I really like the Gain / Dirty Channel on my Orange, do I really need a tubescreamer on top of that?
If so I guess I'd just get a TS9
Did not know about the clicking on the Descent. What are other good reverbs
>>66291297
yeah it looks like a killer guitar, When i first saw Slipknot playing live and saw the guitarist was using a fender, it kind of blew my mind someone can play that kind of metal on an iconic, bluesy guitar. Its probably going to be my next guitar.
>>66291546
>>66291578
Another TH30 and Walrus Audio Descent owner. Can confirm audible clicking when moving any knobs on it.
It does not affect if you use an expression pedal, but it is jarring.
>>66291638
I won't be using an expression pedal most likely, cause I have to play sitting down. What are some other good reverbs to try?
Anything that is colorful / spacey / lush, I like.
>>66291312
I like it too, but I like the sound of digital "analog" delay just as much. It's not hard to emulate delay.
>>66291629
>iconic, bluesy guitar
>EMGs
>>66291690
I should add that it should let you use presets (does that mean it has to be digital?)
>>66291721
i just mean how its a telecaster, the specific model is pretty far from blues
>>66291546
Upload clips pls. I played cello in school and have been meaning to mic it and run it through some pedals.
>>66291759
i will brudder, but the amp i wanted (the combo) wasnt in stock and they ordered it from my local sam ash
how much should you loosen the truss rod in a day? im getting crazy fret buzz on my bass and ive already moved adjusted the truss rod about a half turn
could i fix it by adjusting the string height at the bridge or no
>>66290576
sad post
>>66290930
fun fact, the white parts are glow in the dark. at least in the version I have.
>>66291706
Analog delays are just as cheap as digital and they have different uses. It's tape delays that are gimmicky and retarded. in my opinion.
>>66291791
As much as you like. Some people will say to let it sit. Fuck those morons.
But judging from the rest of your question, you need to watch a tutorial ASAP. The truss rod and the string saddles do different things, you need to use both to do a complete setup. Always tune to check your action.
>>66291791
The primary way to adjust action is by lowering the bridge saddles. The truss rod is meant to compensate for the string's tension, and the bow produced by a vibrating string.
I'd say you shouldn't need to adjust the truss rod every day unless you're bass is shit. Go for the bridge saddles.
>>66291883
Is the Cathedral worth the premium over a Holy Grail? I love the spring on my Blues Jr but it totally fucks up the sound of my Mastotron for some reason.
>>66291883
How is the Cathedral? I have a HoF and it sucks shit.
>>66291894
ive seen some tutorials and read other stuff about fret buzz. ive read that either the truss rod or the action can cause it
>>66291940
yeah i think its the saddles judging by the fact that i havent touched them yet and the bass is brand new
>>66291791
It depends on the config itself. I don't go beyond 1/4 turn a day but I've got a twin truss rod. Half a turn should make a huge difference unless you fucked with it before.
speaking of Reverbs, need a rec for the following:
>lets you do 100% wet mix
>lets you do presets
>has some kind of shimmer / polyphonic mode
>>66291952
>>66291965
Not my pic, I just habitually save tiny pedalboard photos every time I see them.
I use a Holy Grail Nano. I set it to spring @ 1oclock and forget it. I don't see any point in changing up my reverb sound from song to song. My clean sound (a lot of reverb/slight slapback/little bit of modulation) is beautiful and I don't have any expensive pedals. I heard the HoF sucks. I tried all the Holy Grails.
>>66292077
Strymon Big Sky. Expensive but You'll never need another reverb for the rest of your life.
>>66292073
it was new so i figured it would need some adjusting. i mightve loosened it too much actually but ill deal with that later.
>>66287715
>Although you may be a little short sighted if you need a manufacturer to feed you specific frequency responses over controlled test conditions.
Pickups don't matter so much that you need a dedicated electrical test- you can just do long-run weighted spectrum analysis and that's good enough. The broad curve you're trying to map (or if it's one of these new neodymium gimmicks, slightly waved line) manifests independent of the instrument it's on and the player playing and the etc. You normalize some tracks at continuous volume and feed that shit into your analyzer and there you go.
What bothers me is the fact that everybody defines these values differently. You get asked "hey so I want a less expensive alternative to the Bareknuckle Aftermath, and the Seymour Duncan Nazgul looks like that according to the ~TONE BARS~ so would that work?" and the answer is fuck no, because the SD Nazgul has a frequency response like the BKP Painkiller, which ain't what their shitty little graph would lead you to believe. Sure the Aftermath has a little more treble than the Painkiller in total, but it ain't distributed the same way.
This is irritating as a consumer because it's not just lazy, it's misleading. You can find reviews of people unhappy with pickups because they assumed, fairly on their part, that they'd sound like something else based on the dumb tone EQ crap, when in reality that's some awful garbage entirely removed from what shit actually sounds like.
I'm not asking for dudes in labcoats with liquid nitrogen- I'm not even asking for a labeled Y axis, I'm just asking for somebody to draw the frequency response based on a weighted spectrum analysis after some playing. They could do it in the same take as their stupid demo videos.
>>66290309
Hi, I've a new guitar and it's so new
Any recommends on wearing it in,
I know intentionally distressed guitars are contentious
but it's burning my eyes out, it;'s uncomfortable to play
Thanks
Sup /gg/? Do anything fun with your git fiddles today?
i have an interface with a mic input slot that has a ring shaped holes with 3 holes within it
https://www.amazon.com/Shure-SM57-LC-Cardioid-Dynamic-Microphone/dp/B0000AQRST/
what of these packages do i need to get? or do i need to get something more than just in one of these?
>>66292916
Get an Anxiety disorder so your palms sweat alot. I "relic" my new guitars in a matter of days. Kind of sucks tbqh, I've learned to appreciate pristine looking guitars.
>>66292916
You have to be 18 years old to use this website.
I need some advice /gg/
I'm in a new band (vocals and guitar), and we're planning on gigging quite soon, I'm hoping to invest in guitar amp gear.
I don't have anything other than practice amps, and don't have a heap of cash right now, so I'm wondering what can I get that's relatively cheap but giggable.
Genre is kinda post-punk/math/pop, guitar tones are kinda Gang of Four at the punkier edge, TTNG at the less softer edge, but all with a bit of chorus going on.
Should I get a separate head and cab? Should I get a decent head, and then upgrade cab later? Any brands/models/solid-state,tube decision opinions welcome.
Thanks guys
>>66293364
Definitely go for a combo. The minimum volume required is enough to play with a loud drummer. Lots of amps of various sizes and wattages can do this. But be aware, it takes less energy to amplify high frequencies than low ones. So the more powerful your amp is, the more your bassist will have to get/spend. Don't be a dick and get a stack.
>>66293364
Budget?
>>66293562
>>66293562
€500 at the moment, though I can save over the next while and at least double that by the end of the year. We're hoping to gig by October though
>>66293521
Bass player has decent gear, pretty powerful head that he brings to rehearsals anyway
Anyone used a Vox Lil Night Train? I'd appreciate some comments whether they're any good
>>66293178
You don't need the USB adaptor. The mic and your interface use XLR plug/sockets so you need an XLR cable and that's it.
>>66293116
>Martin
Fuck off with your meme machine. Get a Taylor if you want a real acoustic.
>>66293223
I have very dry skin.
I tried dragging the guitar on concrete, I put motor oil on it
it's so bright
when I see the aged versions of this guitar they can look good,
but I've not 5 years patience
Ginger...guitar
>>66293646
Check out the Vox AC15 (used, of course). I'm in America so I assume British amps are cheaper in the EU. Should come significantly under €500 and be everything you need for that kinda sound.
>>66291952
it's a really nice pedal but get it used if you're gonna buy it
>>66293791
Thank you, will check out
>>66293710
A pack of Taylor Swift picks are enroute to your nearest post-office and a $10 non-transferable gift card.
Thanks!
>>66293791
>British amps are cheaper in the EU
oh boy, not anymore.
>>66293853
Two years before anything potentially happens at least
>>66292416
Could the Cathedral be a good substitute?
>>66293710
>implying the X series martins aren't the absolute best value in guitars at the moment
Seriously, play one and then look at the price tag, you'll be blown the fuck away. The most expensive one is like $800 and it sounds as good as most other martins costing 3x as much.
>>66293853
Start Brexit hoarding nigga
>>66293710
They're both good brands.
>>66293913
Please no more "just bought and beaming" about your fucking guitar.
I'm sure you want to give a fair account of your guitar, but you are clearly unable to for now.
What are the benefits of extended range guitars?
>>66294321
Extended range.
>>66294321
more range
>>66294321
The range is extended.
>>66294321
take a guess
Getting an offset cut out for me.
On any guitar I have owned, I almost never use the bridge pickup. So I'm routing out only a hum in the neck and a single in the middle.
Am I crazy?
Also, baritone.
>>66294321
>pros
You can get easy access to lower notes without having to downtune
>cons
people on 4chan will make fun of you
>>66294453
Meh, might as well have more. I'm big on "form follows function." It doesn't hurt to have the option.
>>66294453
Take this chance to put the bridge pickup a little further from the bridge than usual. You'll probably end up using it just as much as the other pickups.
>>66293786
Drag it down the street behind a car. It's the only way to get that real road-worn look
>>66294949
It's not authentic till the pickups short
>>66293651
so the combo pack with the cable and stand?
>>66295063
You can probably get them better seperately. Pro-audio bundles always seem to scimp on the accessories bit. Plus a used stand will be no worse than a new one.
>>66290309
Kinda hyped for this. Ordered the 5 string version, but shipping will take some time because it's too large to be shipped normally.
i like how the agile forum makes fun of those guitars more than we do
>>66295548
I want to play it standing up.
>>66296033
what's stopping you
>>66296033
That's kinda what you do, yes.
>>66295926
Well, if they didn't do dumb shit you wouldn't get works of art like these. I want to make fun of kurt though he sounds kawaii
>>66296072
Shit, thought it was a cello. I pictured using a strap with this.
>>66296124
It's an EUB, they also have a Cello, a Violin and the "omnibass" (eub with bassguitar scale length) though. And sou can have straps for the eub as well.
Anyone have the zoom B1xon or B1on? Do you recommend either, and if so, is the extra 20 on the x model justified?
How many of you actually write songs?
How and on what instrument do you write them on?
Who are your biggest influences?
>>66296328
oh no i dont even play
>>66296328
I transcribe a LOT of shit, and I use a program called transcribe for that. Besides that, learning by ear and coming up with basslines. But full songs? No.
>>66296402
but anon, learning to play a song by ear is really fun. it's like a puzzle or something.
>>66296248
They still sell these? Well, look for one on craigslist. I see those and newer models all the time for pocket change. Pretty well known reliable gear, too.
>>66296471
reading comprehension:
>>66296539
You forgot to finish your post, retard.
>>66296471
>learning to play a song by ear is really fun. it's like a puzzle or something
That's what I'm doing. Transcribe just allows you to slow down the song, loop certain parts, change the pitch, EQ everything, etc. It helps, a lot, but you still have to do it by ear at the end of the day. It's just more efficient this way. And good luck learning a bassline by ear in a song where it's drowned out by a bunch of wind instruments and drums, especially on old recordings.
>>66296471
Don't be stupid.
>>66296487
They look cheap, but I've heard some demos and they can do a lot of shit for the money.
>>66296600
What an utter waste of repeating digits.
>>66296601
>for the money
Translation: "it's shit but you can't complain at that price"
>>66296095
that's the ugliest thing I've ever seen.
>>66296668
What the fuck else would that mean?
>>66296593
how much did it cost you?
>>66296694
People think "good for the money" means good, but it actually means "shit but it's the only thing that even works at that pricepoint".
>>66296711
The program? Transcribe? I think a license key is like 40 bucks, I got it for free from a friend (a legitimate key even, not a cracked version).
I did it /gg/, I bought a meme amp
Pic related, Vox VT20X
It sounds great
if anyone's interested
>>>/diy/1020480
>>66296822
Clean your room.
>>66296601
I have a newer one. The effects apart from drive and distortion are great. Lots of clean gain on tap as well. That said, they dedicate a lot of the pedal to amp sims and distortion, which are only really good for practice or clean sounds.
I guess the big muff is okay, actually.
I honestly don't think I'll ever bother with other effects that the zoom can already handle, apart from aforementioned drive and distortion.
>>66296729
Nobody thinks that. The phrase fucking exists to be a disclaimer.
How come you never post your dano here? Also, I don't get how the pickups' height adjustment works on those. They're screwed in to the back, but what's the routing like to accommodate that.
>>66296402
I'm surprised anyone on GG can read music
>>66296822
https://tulsa.craigslist.org/msg/5669520684.html
Is this worth it? The guitar is shit and im going to sell it, but is it worth it for the amp?
Looking for a guitar with a nice clean setting. American Football-y kind of. I cant find online what either of their guitarists play
>>66297156
????
You don't read music, you listen to it. Honestly why is /mu/ so retarded?
>>66297156
I can only read bass clef fluently, because I'm used to it. I take lessons at a classical music school and a music academy, so it's expected and mandatory. My teacher also puts a big focus on sight reading.
>>66297198
Any guitar will work.
>>66297198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtxbvb2ttOQ
Teles seem to be the emo guitar of choice. I feel like this rig rundown is as emo-typical as it gets.
>>66297144
dunno, the pickup height seems to adjust well from the back screws, it's my only guitar I haven't taken apart or modified, so I have no idea about the routing atm...
Why is it that pre-CBS Strats sound so fucking good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTzrowNws3w
Are there any pickups I can get to get close to this sound? Don't care about price. Most strats just sound characterless to me.
>>66297191
Heck yeah, cop that dude. Not to sound like a shill but vox amps rule
>>66297417
Bummer, I haven't been able to find any pics online. If you ever mess with it, post stuff I guess.
Just started playing yesterday after about a 5 year break, and even then I didn't play much at all. I gotta say I'm going through the scales and basic chords and learning some songs and it's a whole lot of fun. I'm glad I got into it and I hope I keep at it.
>>66295548
>/GG/
>guitar and bass general
That's a classical instrument, we only do guitars and bass guitars here. If we allow this shit then people might as well post tubas because "lot it's a bass instrument as well". Why do we allow this shit?
>>66297686
>i wanna see some more schecters!
>>66297724
>falling for the bait
>>66297686
Because that hasn't happened yet. I don't think we need to worry about it either.
>>66297724
I actually haven't seen too many Schecters in these threads. There was the leftie aussie with a couple but aside from that I don't think I've seen many others
I agree though, that guy you're responding to is a faggot
>>66297616
Looks like the body is a plastic shell with blocks of wood for structural support. Screw holes in the back plastic, pickup shaped hole in front plastic. As far as I can tell...
>>66297565
The magnets have lost a little power since the 60s so they sound a bit cleaner. You can simulate that by having it a little underwound.
My favorite single coil guy is Don Mare, he can wind you a strat pickup to your taste. Jason Lollar is also good, but I don't know if he does custom stuff.
Hey my dudes how is this bass? If I do buy it, it will be my first bass
>>66298882
p.green
>>66298175
Kerry Learned from Onamac windery does amazing single coils. Ive got them in my tele and strat.
>>66298882
that's the type of bass a nigger would play
getting this soon, pretty hype
>>66298915
or a 14 year old that talked his mom into buying it
>>66298882
5/10 would buy if it had a better paint job
>>66299011
bruh im only considering this cause the paint job.
>>66298932
Good choice m8. I wish Gretsches were more popular.
>>66299040
Great, we really need one more "le hipster irony" faggot running around making garbage music no one cares about.
So yes, buy it. Then move to Brooklyn on your parents dime until your bored with your "authentic indie rocker" cosplay and then move back to whatever suburban flyover shithole you call home.
>>66299104
Name one indie band you've ever seen play with a buttmetal meme machine like that.
>>66299104
>making garbage music no one cares about.
>>implying you should make music for other people
>>>implying im using the bass to make music
Listening to Ralph Towner really makes me feel inadequate, damn son....
>>66299121
Sleigh Bells
>>66299121
I like how you don't know shit about anything. Precious.
http://bushwickdaily.com/bushwick/categories/music/3220-rage-it-out-top-shows-this-weekend-feat-boys-noize-mitski-scum-fest-cuntmafia-more
>>66299166
shut the fuck up you don't know shit
>>66299154
As much I hate that green bass I love cheesy super strats from the 80s like this. They only exist to have a great bridge tone and get questionable pussy.
_________________________
from this point on is a no shitpost zone
>>66298882
Buy this and I will resurrect harambe
>>66299126
>>66299172
Music if a form of communication, dipshit.
And now you've made it clear you didn't know that and you don't know anything about what's going on currently in music.
Which is hilarious.
>>66299226
music is supposed to be bad
>>66299226
Oh yeah then tell me what pulse demon is communicating
>>66297904
Thanks amigo. I've been thinking about adding one of these to my guitar I guess I don't have to do a ton to retrofit it. For some reason I wasn't thinking of the mounting bracket as being directly below the pickup and not going out to the sides. It all makes sense now.
>>66299177
Yes, most people are well aware of these hipster trends at this point.
>>66296822
Hey now, get one as well. Great lil bedroom practice amp. Lot of decent tones for jamming out, esp the ac30tb
>>66299177
I like them too, but I also like 80s metal unironically. Using them ironically to play indie rock is kind of tryhard.
>>66298932
i have that one in black
Hey y'all,
veteren acoustic player here.
I like the feel, weight and tension of acoustic strings, but I want to play an electric.
What should I do?
>>66299572
>What should I do?
uh..go fuck yourself?
>>66299572
Use the same gauge of strings, with a wound G if that's what your acoustic has.. Should feel exactly the same.
>>66299599
rude desu
>>66299599
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>>66299572
I was same. Got electric, frustrated at lighter tension. I got 11 mediums and loved playing it. Now thinking of dropping down to 10s after getting better at playing
>>66290309
just bought a guitar and rocksmith 2014
wish me luck
>>66298882
>not getting a pink one
>>66297676
good man stick w it, it only gets funner w time
>>66293116
Bombay Sapphire is good tho. Martin isn't the best decision in my country, due to weather changes. My local music store has to store Martins in the backroom because the bodies were cracking in normal temperature.
>>66299708
Ernie Ball makes a skinny top heavy bottom 10-52 set that I love.
>>66300410
Everyone makes 10-52 I think
>>66299833
You don't need luck, just work at it consistently and intelligently
>>66296328
>How
I just kind of fuck around until a song forms. Find a riff that sounds cool, and most of the time it turns into an intro or verse riff. Choruses are riff variations of a chord progression. Just kind of noodle around with riff ideas to find pieces that flow together.
>what instrument do you write them on
Obviously guitar first and foremost. I track the guitar parts then program drum sequences over it. Bass gets added last. Sometimes I'll add some midi stuff like E. piano or strings, but not that often
>Who are your biggest influences
I don't play that type of music much anymore, but John Frusciante is probably my biggest guitar influence. My writing style now is based a lot on bands like Chon and Plini, or more metal stuff like The Black Dahlia Murder
What is the most important factor to the full, warm and rich jazz guitar sound? Thibk Wes Montgomery, Joe Pass kind of sound. Is it the pickup, the amp, or the fact that they use a hollow bodied?
>>66300666
>any guitar
>neck pickup
>clean amp tone
>tone knob all the way down
All you need desu desu kawaii senpai
>>66300715
That's like saying switching to the bridge pickup and placing a distortion in front is the key to getting a distortion sound.
>>66300745
No, distortion tone would be:
>high gain tube amp
>any guitar
>bridge humbucker
>overdrive pedal
Wham-bam, professional grade metal rhythm
How do I sound like him?
>>66300602
as far as i was aware only eb sold a pre-packed set of 10-52, but google tells me d'addario also sells one. i'm too lazy/drunk to look further into it, but it's not really a common set. plus i'm a fan of eb for some reason. maybe the brightly colored packing or something.
either way, i like the wound top 3 with solid bottom 3, as opposed to a lot of heavier sets that have a wound g.
>>66301068
EB, D'Addario, GHS and Rotosound. At my local store alone.
>>66299572
6 string bass guitar.
Anyone here use a Fender Mustang II? How is it for a cheap lil bedroom practice amp?
>>66301068
no way, heaps of brands do 10-52, it's pretty common.
How many of you guys use your pinky for fingerpicking? I know classic technique is just the other 4, but I'm trying to make my pinky work but it fucking sucks
Any exercises or anything to help? Or should I just keep using it until it's a god
>>66301151
>>66301519
well fuck me i guess, i'm just a poorly informed asshole spouting bullshit out on the internet like it's a goddamn fact.
anyway, you got anything to say about playing 10-52s? not to reiterate what i said above, but i fucking love them, yet some hate them. weird how people have opinions.
>>66301757
my fingerpicking started with banjo, so im crippled by just picking with my thumb and first 2. still make it work though. if you want to use your pinky, just use it until it gets good.
>>66301757
This might be a little counterintuitive, but have you tried hybrid picking? Because you'll be using your index finger and thumb for holding the pick, it'll force you to use your pinky like classical technique would use the ring finger, so at least you'll get some practice out of it.
>>66301926
Oh that's a great idea. My hybrid picking sucks ass too, so that'd get 2 birds with one stone.
>>66301829
How does playing banjo compare to guitar? I've been interested in getting one for a while
>>66298882
I've played one before. Has a good sound for the price but goddamn is it ugly. Throw some cool stickers on it and it'll be worth it.
So am I right in thinking the Fender Bassbreaker 15 head has a bright switch, but isn't foot switchable?
>>66301757
There's a couple of guys that do it most notably classical guitarist Stepan Rak,
He shoehorns using it for his compositions, but it seems of little use for conventional repertoire.
I had lessons with him for a few weeks a while back and certainly gave it a go, but there's always a big tonal difference between the pinky and the other fingers. Once the novelty of the new technique had worn off, it seemed of little use.
>>66290948
Best post itt
what can you guys tell me about the following two chords:
5x6654
x5767x (and variations 557675, x576xx)
does anyone know the names or has any information on where these are commonly used or any info at all really. like are these patterns i can use in other positions?
What are the Gibson Les Pauls with a thin neck? I have a historic 59 and it feels like a baseball bat
>>66302314
Even 1960 reissues have thinner necks than 59s!
Standards have a lot thinner necks. The new ones also have an asymmetric profile.
>>66300880
shellac - harmonic perculator. if you're looking for a big black sound, some guy bought a cheap and shitty analog delay pedal and turned the feedback up to max and the delay time to zero. i think a chorus pedal also could work for that big black sound. you can find harmonic perculator clones online. the original ones are rare & expensive as fuck.
>>66302059
It's hard to compare banjo to guitar. first off its hard to make a banjo sound like it isn't a banjo, which can make it hard to blend in with other instruments, unless you want to play bluegrass or some faggy mumfjords and sons type shit.
if you just want an instrument you can pick up and strum some open chords with, banjo is pretty cool. it's open tuned, which makes it really easy just to fuck around with. however if you're interested in bluegrass, be prepared for a struggle. bluegrass is extremely disciplined and stylistic. if you want to jam with a bluegrass group there is a specific thing you have to do. if that type of rigid structure isn't you're thing, don't even bother trying to play bluegrass banjo.
>tfw any pick that's less than 1mm thick feels like paper to me
I cannot understand how players I like use picks as thin as 0.73mm, even if they aren't being technical.
>>66301784
They're good for E standard to Drop C, though I'd use 11-56 for the latter if I want to have the same tension as 52s in Drop D.
>>66290309
I came up with something and I like it, which usually means that I stole it form somewhere without realizing. Can someone figure out where I stole this from: https://clyp.it/saoi2jk3
>amp is picking up radio stations
what should i doooooo
>>66302718
jam along
>>66302224
Yes
Will a TS style pedal give me high gain toanz when going into a crunched amp?
>>66291578
>>66291638
It used to click sometimes but mine doesn't do it anymore. If you're slow with the knobs it won't do that.
The bigger problem with the Descent is that you have to reset your knobs every time you use it if you're not using a preset setting.
The thing does have 8 different knobs and and 2 octave / wet/dry mixes so a lot of stuff can be done with it.
>>66302682
I'm with you on that one, I have no idea how Sugizo can use a 0.6mm pick
Would the Atomic bass solo be a good start for getting me to play more than basic root note 1/8th playing?
>>66290948
How many times is it gonna take I wonder
>>66290309
Yes hello.
I'm brand new to playing, few days ago. Everything I play sounds like wank and I'm paranoid it's because my guitar was in the attic for about 9 years. I know it's probably because my fingers are wrong or something but I'd like to know what an experienced person would do in my situation to make sure their guitar is ok.
Another this, how the fuck do I put the guitar down? if I lean it against something, it's against the tuners and it goes out of tune. If I lie it on my bed like a babby, it's still on the tuners. If i put it face down, it's on the string then. What do I do?
>>66303471
get a guitar stand, they're like $10
>>66302862
not really, you're going to get a very dirty SRV blues type of crunchy sound. it can work for a lead sound, no doubt, but if you want high gain stuff you'll probably want a different pedal
>>66303471
You didn't tell us what kind of guitar it is. I'm just gonna assume it's an old acoustic. First thing you should check out is the neck to see if it's straight or not.
To store you guitar, you can either buy a stand or leave it in it's case but leaning it on a wall is not a good idea.
is 18 too late to start to be decent?
I mean to have enough ability to play in a band in the future?
my friend wants to form a band but I don't know how to get serious about guitar or music theory in general
all I know are basic cowboy open chords and simple 4/4 songs
pls guide me senpai
>>66303587
google justinguitar, he covers pretty much everything up to intermediate levels
>>66303598
will do!
also are actual lessons worth it?
I know nothing can replace practice and effort
but will lessons give a good sense of direction?
>>66303633
depends on the teacher. there's a lot of really dumb fuck guitar teachers out there.
>>66303471
>If I lie it on my bed like a babby
>>66303633
>>66303651
A good teacher can be a huge benefit, not only in developing a program for you, but also in pinpointing specific technical areas to correct/ work on
>>66301757
I agree with
>>66302285
The pinky has an unshakable tinny, bright tone simple because there's no good way to shape the nail and strike with it at a proper angle.
There's very little repertoire that uses it and most it that does is contemporary.
We'll use our thumb to strike any combination of the bass strings during chords if needed while leaving the trebles to our i, m, and a fingers.
>>66291266
Git gud
Also master playing fast pulloffs
How do you like to sequence your min7th arpeggios?
>>66304002
>Also master playing fast pulloffs
Ok if you like to cheat. Otherwise pick everything, always alternate
Squierbros, do any of you play or have played any of the "Standard" series Teles or Strats? I've read reviews on other sites already and aware about the usual upgrades and mods (pots, switches, nut, pups ets) but was wondering if you had any thoughts on them?
>>66304201
Something tells me you haven't actually heard the artist in question.
>>66304100
by sequence im assuming you mean the pattern?
i like the pattern based around the C chord, it's very easy
/gg/ i have a question. im planning to upgrade to my shitty little practice amp to something decent. are tubes a pain in the ass to maintain? should i get a solid state? how long do tubes last? what makes them last longer? I DEMAND ANSWERS!
>>66290925
>>66291297
>>66291629
>>66291721
what's a budget version of this same sound?
>>66304429
tubes are not a pain in the ass to maintain. the only time you really have to worry about tubes is if you are travelling and moving the amp around a lot.
tubes last a long time. i have a 76 twin reverb and it had the same tubes in it for like 25 years before i switched them out with new ones, and i only did that because i didn't want to damage the tubes because i was using the amp for gigs.
>>66304429
Just get an Axe-Fx. No maintenance and sounds just as good
>>66304429
Tubes aren't a PITA at all.
The can last years, even decades depending how much and how loud you play.
Biasing your tubes hot will shorten their lifespan, but you can still get years out of them
>>66304507
i really like to have pedals. they're like vinyls, outdated and inconvenient, but they're so fucking awesome. digital stuff doesn't seem for me.
>>66302733
nice
>>66304528
>>66304486
thanks guys. i'll look in to them.
Is there any point to learn economy picking?
>>66304779
it's useful sometimes, but i would never strictly use it, it's too awkward to constantly use it, but it is useful for some types of licks.
i got a guitar from the pawn and i'm not sure if i'm imagining things but it seems a million times harder to string bend than my old guitar. are some strings easier to string bend than others? i normally use d'addario coated nickel light top/heavy bottom should i go ahead and switch them out? strings are fine otherwise
I wanna make shoegazy drone what guitar do i buy
Anyone here have experience with Avatar cabs? Prices seem amazing for being able to get a custom cab made, and most of the reviews I've seen online are very positive, but some people report shoddy build quality.
I'm looking to get the 2x12
>>66304877
any guitar will do. you need to invest in pedals.
>>66302298
>5x6654
This is A-Maj7. It can be the I chord in the key if A major, or the IV chord in the key of E major.
>x5767x
This is D-Maj7. It is can be the I chord in D mojor or the IV chord in A major.
If you are playing these together you are playing the I and IV in A major.
Move those shapes up and down the fret board to get different chords. The first shape has the root on the 6th string, the second shape the root is on the 5th string.
>>66304838
did you put a set of strings on it or are you using what it came with? thicker strings are more difficult to bend, it doesn't really have anything to do with the brand, it's just the size itself. i'm assuming it just has thicker strings on it than what you're used to.
the only other things that affect how difficult/easy it is to bend a string is scale length and string height, the longer the scale length/the higher the string height, the more difficult it will be to bend it
>>66296328
I do.
I use guitar mainly obviously. Track drums first in EZ Drummer 2. Then write guitar parts to drums. Then bass.
I'd say my biggest influences are Thomas Erak and Mark Holcomb.
Who /Vox/ here?
What is a pedal that will produce similar effects to the digitech space station? Giving me a colorful, synth sound?
>>66296328
I try to. I usually write for one guitar only as I don't really know what to do with the bass. Eventually I add one, or another guitar if I have an harmony in mind. I do it all on guitarpro, it's faster.
Problem is I can't really put up anything together that sounds cohesive. Regardless of whether I play in a key or not.
>>66304779
I almost always use economy picking, it gives a great, smooth legato without too much effort, and it feels easier. I'm also about 40bpm faster with it than if I alternate pick everything like Paul Gilbert.
>>66304838
Tension's what defines if a string's hard to bend, which itself depends on scale lenght and linerar mass (in that case the gauge you could say). So either it is longer than your previous guitar (if you went from an LP to a strat for exemple), either it is the strings.
Guitar strings are 5 bucks a pack anyway, you're not risking your life.
>>66304896
Moving the shape won't change the chord itself, but its tonality. If you'd play x7989x, it would still be a Maj7 chord, but an E-Maj7 instead. (which would I in the key of E major or IV in B major)
>>66304891
ok but i just want someone to tell me what guitar to buy because i'm really at a loss
>>66305566
go into a store, try some stuff out, buy the one you like the most
ain't that hard
>clear a guitar from my GAS list
>find another
>>66305692
that's the way GAS works
once you are infected with GAS, the formula for for ideal amount of guitars is always x+1.
x = the amount of guitars you already own
>>66305773
I only have one guitar though. It's just that there's one I don't really want anymore.
how do i get ultra-bright sounds like this except without sounding like shit?
https://clyp.it/1jabfzyq
>>66304900
>>66305531
my old guitar was really easy to bend and i just found out i was bending wrong with my fingers and not my wrist like you're apparently supposed to do. used my wrist and it bent right. guess i should keep on these strings until i learn how to do it right
>>66305817
Bright OD, cut down bass, cut down the topmost frequencies so it doesn't end too shrill.
Use proper equipment, it sounds like you're just running an OD through your pc's mic input.
>>66305845
>not my wrist like you're apparently supposed to do.
Are you really supposed to do that ? I use my fingers, never had any trouble with it, and trying out with the wrist right now I think it feels awkward.
>>66305962
define proper equipment, i know nothing about guitar equipment. i'm using a DS-1 with volume set to max distortion set to min and brightness to max, and an ESP LTD EX-50 i got from the pawn with brightness to max running into my interface
>>66305962
>Are you really supposed to do that ? I use my fingers, never had any trouble with it, and trying out with the wrist right now I think it feels awkward.
everyone always says to use your wrist when bending, but you can't always do that in every situation. there's a standard bend that a lot of people use, you bend something on the G string with your ring finger, and you play and hold a note on the B string one fret up from the bend. you can't really bend that with your wrist, it's just awkward.
>>66299251
You can also get lipstick tube copies that fit in single coil slots
>>66306036
throw in some amp sims and impulse response then, it should be better
>>66290925
It's cool and all, but teles without coil pickups kinda defeat the purpose. It's a nice guitar though.
>>66306096
amplifier heads are supposed to be plugged into a full cabinet if i understand correctly, right? can i buy an amplifier head and then plug it into my interface after modifying the treble and bass as i like? and will that be useable for other stuff like if i wanted to gig in the future? or do people not use amp heads to cabinets in real gigs, and just use it directly to a big amp? i don't have any friends who play guitar or do music (or friends in general desu lol) so i haven't learned this stuff by osmosis like i assume most people do
>>66303497
I'm not really sure I'll stick with it, I usually give up on things so I'm reluctant to throw money at this yet.
>>66303568
Yeah acoustic. One of those spanish ones you get for children.
>>66303685
what did he mean by this
>>66306210
just found this video looking up stuff about this and it made me feel really stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qxn7677Ja8
>>66304889
I own a closed back Avatar 2x12. I got it with an OR15 for 400 total, so I got a steal, can't comment on price. However, the sound is lovely. Good build quality too, has been solid since I've owned it. Tolex and grille cloth work are definitely good. Mine has two reissue Greenbacks in it, like it a lot. Selling to fund the purchase of an Emperor 4x12 I've found.
>>66306210
You could use a Two Notes Torpedo Live, it lets you use digital cab sims with your real amp head and connect it to your interface or a venue's mixing board to replace a mic'ed up cabinet.
Opinions on Andyguitar for first time learners?
The OP says Justinguitar but I've been using Andy. He's really nice and he's British but sometimes he forgets to tell you things like how chords go with the lyrics on songs, or how, like with pic related, the X means you're not supposed to play that string.
>>66305692
Sweet bass anon. I have one of the older models with the strings a little further apart from each other. Plays like a charm desu.
>>66305817
get a fuzzrite
>>66305264
https://youtu.be/qL7BYMO76gk
You can mod the much cheaper XP100 to be the same pedal.
>>66306210
Never plug a head into something other than a Cab, or these DI kind of things like the shitty mesa cab clone or two notes torpedo live.
"big amps" doesn't mean anything, there's small as fuck heads and cabs (orange micro terror and the 1x8") and huge loud combos (twin reverb).
As far as modelling goes, plugins are good, you need a lot of tweaking, but you will get the results, there's no need to bother with an actual amp and cab if you can't push it loud.
>>66306527
Too bad I'll never find any of them used in my area.
I'm really curious about the 7 string model too, even though the absolutely massive range is kinda useless on bass. As far as I've tried, 6 stringed SRs were great and easy to play.
Hello dear /gg/
I read the bassist for Bolt Thrower has a tube screamer so I went and got one on discount. It's a TS9 model. Problem is I use a lot of my low end. Should I add an eq pedal to raise the low end or some sort of bass booster? Or am I better off buying the bass version?
I love that little green pedal though.
>>66305189
Vox is a garbage brand that makes garbage amps
>>66307435
garage*
>>66307052
either way can work. If you boost your bass beforehand the TS will probably eat it. I don't have one to play with but it will make the thing fuzzier and less gritty, because you'll need to lower the gain. Be sure to try this out. Boosting afterwards is a bit of a safer bet.
>>66307605
Thanks. I've also read that the tube screamer is easily modded. But I'll leave it as it is for now.
What is the absolute most I should pay for an original XP-300 space station? Im thinking $400
>>66297198
"Clean settings" don't come from your choice of guitar. The amount of dort in your signal is an effects/amp thing. That being said, single coils lend themselves to clean sounds beautifully.
>>66299121
Modest Mouse did it
>>66302484
Banjo rolls on guitar aren't difficult at all and they sound great. Listen to Brad Paisley, he's a fucking beast. Country guitar is so fun.
>>66308306
>That being said, single coils lend themselves to clean sounds beautifully.
It's all in the settings, Alan Holdsworth plays through a bridge humbucker and has one of my favourite tone ever.
How do you determine an electric guitar is any use in buying? I'm talking under 300 euros here, also, what price point should I buy an amp at if I'll be using headphones and speakers for practice?
>>66302140
this! also step on it. make it scratched up.
>>66308519
maybe some digital amp would work for you.
>>66308563
You mean as in an application? That sounds handy enough thinking I could find one for free. Can you hook up pedals to it as well? I got a boss overdrive off a friend.
>>66302224
FX loop isn't so good either.
>>66302224
there's no foot switches for it at all. no foot switch to change the distortion levels, no foot switch for reverb. it's all on the amp.
other than that, for a little amp that thing is pretty fucking good, i use it for small gigs because i'm sick of carrying around larger amps. i use pedals for all my distortion stuff so the footswitch stuff isn't a big deal for me, i just leave it on clean with a slight crunch
I need a simple Reverb that can do the following:
>Let me do a 100% Wet / 0% Dry Mix
>Let me adjust the Decay Time
>Let me adjust the "size"
Basically something similar to how Ableton does its reverb.
Not interested in the Big Sky, that's too much for my needs. Not interested in the Walrus, it has glitches
>>66308856
>Not interested in the Big Sky, that's too much for my needs.
What about the blue sky ?
>>66308856
So, what does size do?
>>66308856
>that's too much for my needs.
Neunaber Wet. Or if you want to go really cheap check out the Behringer RV600
>>66308519
It's kinds difficult to say whether a guitar is worth buying. Depends on the buyer. Most guitars are worth buying used, if you can find them for a good price.
>>66308914
Size adjusts the spaciousness of the Reverb. Lots of pedals have settings like "Hall" or "Cathedral" or "Outdoors" that do the same thing. Those are fine too.
>>66308908
How is that one? Can it do a 100% wet mix?
>>66308986
>Can it do a 100% wet mix?
Yes
>>66308978
http://www.adverts.ie/electric-guitars/lag-arkane/9761242
This is the one I'm thinking of getting, but I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble of going for an hour drive to try it out. I could probably get it for 130, and retail price is 320 euros.
Any opinions?
>>66308946
>>66309058
thanks for the recs. Ill try both in store but if you had to pick between the BlueSky or the Neunaber which do you prefer?
>>66299525
how viable is it for fast scale stuff, aside from the general blues/jazz/rocky stuff that it's used for
>>66309081
I recommended the Neunaber but I definitely would choose the BlueSky. It's just much more versatile. Strymon stuff is on a level of its own. Worth spending a little more on it.
Apologies if this is to be found in the stickies and I'm just retarded, but I havn't been able to find anything.
I'm looking to buy a new guitar after a long musical hiatus and don't know where to start. Any readings you guys can recommend?
>>66309059
It looks like a good deal to me. If the features are what you want go for it.
>>66309171
Doesn't seem to stop country people. My first electric was an Ibanez RG I got in 2004 and I still don't get why people like thin shredder necks.
>>66309433
Do you play thumb on back or thumb over ? The main reason I hate thick necks is because I play thumb on back.
Stop buying fucking reverb. You don't need it. When playing gigs there's more than enough natural reverb in the stadium
>>66309264
I don't know of any good general guide, but I'd say it's worth looking up what all the parts of a guitar do, and maybe just watch a couple setup/repair videos. Knowing what sort of problems guitars can have, and which are easy or difficult to fix will give you a better idea of the things that aren't essential to pay for(easy to fix) and the things you shouldn't skimp on (hard or expensive to fix).
>>66309516
>implying anyone on /mu/ plays stadiums
Nigga I play professionally and most of my gigs are small clubs. A good reverb pedal is essential.
>>66304896
thats exactly what i was looking for. thanks mate
>>66309516
>everyone plays in stadiums
99% of the places you will play in will sound like shit and have no acoustics
>>66309558
>>66309587
That's not really true. Even smaller venues will usually have more than enough natural reverb. I'd rather use a decent delay
Going out to buy this soon for $100. Looks like it'll need a full refret. It'll be my first refret. Gonna probably just put jumbos on it and replace the nut.
>>66309516
>stop having more tonal possibilities guys
What is the quintessential pedal for a bassist? I got some in mind but i don't know which one I'd use the most:
>compression
>overdrive
>D.I
Or others that maybe I didn't think of? I already have a tuner and a looper too.
>>66309623
i've been playing out for 8 years and have only played in maybe 2 places that sounded good, both of them were banquet hall sized rooms
bars sound awful
>>66309623
It depends on what you play really. If you mostly play with a dry sound (most rock music) then I would agree with you, excessive reverb would only kill your attack. My style is more atmospheric so having unique reverbs really helps add complexity to your sound.
>>66309724
comp is the pedal. Necessary for both slap and certain punk styles. A delayed compression is how you get punchy attack. Every bassist ought to have one and I don't.
>>66309558
This, I've been playing professionally for 15 years and I can count the times I've played a stadium or indoor arena on one hand. Most of the shows I play are either clubs or outdoor music festivals.
>>66290930
Isn't the Vapor Trail a better Carbon Copy? That's what I gather from reviews.
>>66291297
>>66291629
He has great taste in guitars, being a Metalhead doesn't mean you gotta be tasteless.
>>66296328
>How many of you actually write songs?
I do but I keep them to myself. Sounds fedoraish but in reality I don't have a band at the moment. :(
>How and on what instrument do you write them on?
Guitar. Just find a chord progression I like and try to go from there. It's usually some simple chords with some variations, extra notes or arpeggios that make it sound cool. Can't do better since I know minimal theory only.
>Who are your biggest influences?
Gustavo Cerati, Mike McCready, John Petrucci.
>>66296849
Cool to see it finished, I'd have preferred to have some direct mount HBs on it too but I guess you didn't want to overcomplicate things. Those synthetizers are nice and really useful in cover bands.
>>66302733
kek, good advice tho
>>66305179
>Mark Holcomb
Mrak is a cool dude, even if I'm not fully into Periphery (hate the whiny vocals) but the guitarists seem to be very down to earth and interact a lot with people. His PRS SE is best SE too.
>>66309491
Yeah I extensively use my thumb. I have pretty long fingers, though.
>>66304429
preamp tubes are nearly immortal and don't require biasing. They stay put and only pass a few mA during use.
Power tubes are responsible for pushing enough voltage and current to drive your speakers. If they're biased in a way that you're not trying to push every possible ounce of volume out of them, then they have long lives. I got ten years out of my Mesa's. Some amps are set to run on the verge of death and you might get only weeks out of them without more proper use.
>>66291477
>epiphone
>>66310480
i only like their semihollows
Is there any reason for a beginner to buy a 1000$ electric guitar over a good 100$ one?
>>66310506
you wont find a good one for $100.
>>66310534
i'm buying the bullet strat from squire, is it good?
>>66310555
go classic vibe
>>66310506
It's the risk between 'buy cheap, buy twice' vs 'will I actually bother to learn this and stick with it and therefore make it a worthwhile investment'
Best case scenario, buy something second hand that's cheap and good.
>>66310589
Seconded. Vintage Modified is also very worthwhile.
>>66310506
Not really. That said, there's lots and lots of $100 guitars not worth buying at all. Good ones are pretty rare. Seems to me about $120-150 is a better budget if you want to cheap out. Won't change the fact that the majority of those guitars will be shit, though.
If you find a good one, and set it up, a beginner won't be able to notice or benefit from the differences between it and a higher end guitar. When you eventually notice its shortcomings, you can fix it up or sell it.
>>66310164
I've noticed people that prefer thick necks tend more have their thumb on top.
>>66310506
Every sub 300$ guitar I've tried was shit. I paid 100$ for mine, had it for two years and it's falling apart. A guitar's a tool, if you cheap out on it, it's going to come back to bite you up the ass.
NEW THREAD
>>66311578
>>66311578
>>66311578
>>66311578
NEW THREAD
>>66308726
you can hook up pedals but that kinda defeats the purpose
