Is Grimes patrician?
>A fairly regular Vancouver kid, with interests like anime, Harry Potter and Mariah Carey, it was during her adolescence that, as Garossino puts it, “something very strange happened.”
>“She changed into some kind of super-brain, exploring the internet all the time.”
>Teenage Boucher’s obsessions ranged from space travel, to the twelfth-century composer Abbess Hildegard von Bingen, to Russian existentialist lit. She crushed so hard on Dostoyevsky that she even flew to St. Petersburg to attend an intensive Russian immersion.
>But as with Grimes’ music, Boucher preferred autodidactism. Garossino recalls hearing Boucher teach one of Chopin’s nocturnes to herself, bar by bar. But only through the wall—at the time, Boucher had too much stage fright to even play the piano in front of her mother.
>“Something that people don't understand about Claire is her searing intellect and focus,” Garossino said. “Whenever you think you've figured her out, she's already three moves ahead. Things are never what they seem.”
>Her mother related how at McGill, the wunderkind wanted to take physics, but couldn’t stand introductory courses. Instead, Boucher entered higher-level classes and studied the prerequisite material at the same time. “She would nearly kill herself studying—surviving on almost no sleep for weeks at a time.”
>“And that's how she makes music today. In long, solitary blasts of blistering intensity.”
what about her harsh noise record?
>>66047944
oy vey
>Hildegard von Bingen
this is literal trigger for cheap esoterica
>>66047944
dickable
>>66047894
>Russian existentialist lit
>Dostoyevsky
>>66048084
he wrote like 20 books and is really good author for teenagers.
>>66048014
She knew about Hildegard way before the latter became popular on /mu/. Grimes > /mu/.
Only trained composers are patrician.
Hate to break it to you. Popular music is never patrician. Only Art Music (look it up if you have a problem with this label - it literally means "classical" music and does not mean that all other music is not art, even if it implies that) written by people who know what they're doing.
>>66048246
>Only trained composers are patrician.
Wrong, mr. elitist.
>>66047930
>harsh noise
No thanks. I can't stand this shit. What's the point in listening to harsh noise?
>>66048208
I don't even know she was popular on /mu/. For me it was always a codeworld for crazy women that are into mysticism, orientalism, feng shui, karma, kabbalah and shit like that. I first learned about hildegard from similar crazy person in 2000.
pseud
>>66048286
(You)
>>66048336
(me)
Why do people always talk about this ugly grimlin and not the superior Grim?
>>66048286
Pseud is who pretends to know shit and have expertise. Claire never does it, quite opposite.
She could easily name some patrician musicians as her favorites, influences but she does not do that. Instead she names plebiest and shittiest musicians imaginable and that's her real genius is showing at PR.
>>66048398
youtu.be/TDul9T8ltfA?t=1m17s
>>66048433
>superior
smaller than grimes chink pen15
>>66048446
>>66048446
that's rich coming from a dead eyed soulless whore
>>66047894
>comments are disabled on this video
kek
>>66047894
I hate when people try to show off how weird, eclectic and esoteric they are.
>>66048483
It's her mom, not grimes herself saying stuff. Grimes might as well hid shotacon manga in her dostoyevsky books.
>>66048433
suck a pen15
>>66048634
>pen15
dude smosh lmao
>>66048440
Your elitism is showing. You're mad because she knows all these artists. You can't accept this fact. Stay mad, hipster.
>>66048654
if she named actually good/obscure artists as favorites every fag would start to call her pseud and tryhard because she has no music education.
Is Grimes the modern day Morrissey?
>>66048711
Get the fuck out with your pseud intellectual shit. She likes what she likes. Deal with it.
>>66048748
she don't like u though
>>66048747
Is Morrissey the modern day Grimes?
>>66048771
How could she dislike me if she doesn't know me?
>>66048792
Grimes >>>>>> the whiny Morrissey
If dubs i dont shower tomorrow
Why are her breasts so small?
>>66048479
tbf existentialism is probably the only way to deal with being sasha grey
>>66048810
Morrissey is better looking though. Not being mean to Grimes, just saying.
>>66048842
rude
>>66048845
stirnerism is better
>>66048842
What that has to do with music?
>>66048858
He was really out of shape in his genocidal phase
>>66048845
she hasn't discovered 'intro to ayn rand' yet
>>66048858
Better looking? Is this a joke?
>exploring the internet all the time
aka
frittered her time away and then quickly pulled up a wikipedia tab when her mom came to check on her
>>66048876
Ratko Mladics let himself go
>>66048880
Absolutely not
>>66048888
>implying that if you did that she must did the same
Check your logic.
>>66048942
I'm afraid it's a joke.
>>66048900
he just took a blame for everything that Morrissey did on Srebrenica tour.
>>66048959
Stay mad
>>66048943
excuse me buster, i was too busy reading huxley and camus (first editions) to flush my time down the toilet that is the internet
>>66049081
>cumus and hackley
wow so hardcore, and now you spend time shitposting on mu.
>>66049081
You were busy reading shit.
>>66047894
>von Bingen
'no'
she's a dilettante with nothing to say. celebrity was always her main goal
>>66049136
yeah your posts in particular
>>66048446
This picture is a Photoshop, you fucking sperg.
It's been passed around as the real thing for years but the actual book before the edit was her autobiography.
Also, Grimes is trash tier. All jokes and memes aside, she is a fucking pseud. Her music is trash and her personality is even worse.
But what do I know, right? After all, this is the board that calls any meme rapper """"genius""""
>>66048282
Pleb detected
>>66049592
Pleb argument
>>66049615
>You're bullshit. Have you ever listen to her discography or watch any interview with her, you stupid cunt?
Yes to both. How else do you think I knew she was a talentless cunt with an unbearable personality?
>>66049477
>Also, Grimes is trash tier. All jokes and memes aside, she is a fucking pseud. Her music is trash and her personality is even worse.
You're bullshit. Have you ever listened to her discography or watched any interview with her, you stupid cunt?
>>66049650
You must be trolling. Really, your points are absurd.
>>66047930
where can i find this?
>>66049673
I assure you, you massive fanboy faggot, that I am not trolling.
You must be tipping cam girls your shit wage in another tab, or browsing Tumblr? Either way, stop posting here, shilling for this grotty, unwashed cunt and fuck off already.
>>66049764
So, you're not trolling, you're legit retarded? I thought you just pretended to be a fuckwit. Suck a pen15 faggot. Die.
>>66049832
>mfw you'll never be so sad and obsessed that you white knight for a women you have never met and have literally zero chance of ever being in the same room as
She's a filthy poser who likes the same surface level IDM as every other bottom feeder.
>>66049880
>implying that calling faggots like you out on their bullshit = white knighting
It's common sense, cunt.
>>66049758
It's privatized on youtube. That stuff vanishes if the views suddenly shoot up.
>>66049650
I can see legitimately disliking her personality for some reason or just the sound of her music. But to claim she's talentless? No dice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpupdoI4BPM
>>66049955
Shame about the audio quality. It doesn't do her any justice. Better check out her KEXP session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ5XUw4qHZo
>>66050006
Forget audio quality. Watch what she's doing with her hands and realize that it's all being driven in real time by what she's hearing with her ears. That is pure musical talent of the highest order.
>>66049955
not even in teh right key
fuck sake
the way numale music journos write about grimes you'd think she was pumping out drukqs-level shit on the regular
>>66050098
Yes, Grimes is doing her music mostly driven by feelings and instinct. It's amazing how amazing is her music if you consider her little to non existant formal training in music. Pure talent.
>>66050163
Grimes albums > Druqks. Druqks is a messy overlong and pretentious AFX album with few highlights and no sense of direction.
>>66050163
She has a harddrive full of Opuses, all self-pioneered.
>>66050196
eh, the whole discog is pretty outdated with Grimes around now.
>>66050196
>>66050322
what am i HEARING
im sorry but grimes caint eeen compare to afx
>>66050294
i have heard that grimes had 10 TB of cp on her pc.
>>66050463
Really?
http://picosong.com/N7QW
http://picosong.com/x23r
http://picosong.com/KYEs
>>66050562
dont get me wrong i fucking love grimes, but rdj is better
also art angels was trash. that album fuckin sucked. visions was 10/10, and then she dropped the ball hard as shit with art angels
>>66050666
different =/= trash
halfaxa is her best anyway
>>66050666
Shut up Satan, Grimes is an angel, and Art Angels was party central. Get your booty movin', punk.
>>66050780
laughing irl
>>66050780
I liked AA, but I am already so bored of it, that recently most played songs are easily, belly of the beat and california
I still can listen to Visions and Halfaxa for pleasure.
>>66050666
>also art angels was trash. that album fuckin sucked
>hating fun music
Are you a robot?
>>66050836
>I liked AA, but I am already so bored of it
You burned it out because it was too good for you. Just admit you're fake fan.
>>66050666
oh shit satan trips
>>66050780
it was alright at times like flesh without blood and kill v maim but i just didnt like it NEARLY not even CLOSE as much as visions
>>66050872
kinda yeah im autistic but keep that on the low low u feel me
visions was better idk niqqa
>>66051067
tf u talm bout
maybe it was just worse than visions and not that good of an album :^)
>>66048446
>10 seconds before sticking it up her ass.jpg
>>66051083
Visions was better, but that doesn't mean AA was bad. It's a fantastic album on its own.
>>66051067
im not fan, im waifufag :^)
Angels has everything better i hate all of you dickholes.
>>66048246
If "patrician" in your definition means "intellectual", then you're correct.
Do academic music composers always "know" what they are doing? Many of them use extramusical inspiration (e.g. dreams, numerology, mathematics, poetry, philosophy, divinity, etc.) for their compositions, and many of them create compositions based on "what sounds good" (i.e. they find a nice melody or some nice little bit of counterpoint while improvising, or while listening to the music in their head, etc.). The greatest academic music composers all follow intuition, just like all of the greatest popular music "composers". Sure, the academic composers then take "what sounds good" and develop it "formally", but clearly the intuitive idea is the soul of the composition, not the formalization. When we get to 20th century music, this "not knowing" and extramusical inspiration becomes even more pronounced, as I'm sure you know.
Academic art music has that intuitive poetic inspiration mixed with intellect and to varying degrees, "standards". Popular music is obviously vastly less intellectual, but it is not any less poetic. Formalization does not exist in popular music, and this is its' unique beauty.
don't die on me you, thread
I wanna stare longingly into her giant, shiny eyes with a stupefied look on my face until she gets visibly uncomfortable!
>>66052950
>until she gets visibly uncomfortable!
she will get visibly uncomfortable as soon as you enter her vision field
>>66053000
trips confirm
rip my fantasy :^(
>>66048643
BTFO ahahahaha
fag
>>66047894
Sorry, but Grimes transcends your small-minded 'patrician' 'plebeian' silliness:
>'[...] for me it’s not a contradiction to con- sume both high culture and Harry Potter or some Japanese mangas. Pop art still appeals to me the most. I guess it has to do with the way I grew up in the 2000s. I like to see a film like Kill Bill as much as I do like watching Solaris. Both experiences are potentially inspiring. Or take dancing: lots of people say that dancing is just a waste of time, but to me it marks a key difference between animals and human beings. It takes a high level of intelligence to interpret music, especially as something you can dance to. It’s spiritual. It’s liberating. If someone can make you dance to their music, it’s a pretty amazing skill. Same goes for all the pop art that touches you emotionally in a split second. I can’t see anything negative in that. I sometimes get the impression that people mistrust their feelings. I try not to do that, just like I try and trust simple ideas and things that are stripped down to the bare essentials. I think it’s a sign of having mastered something.'
>Are you referring to your own music?
>'Actually, I would say it’s true of the last Katy Perry record. There are so many people who call her songs easy and so cheap, but to use elements of pop that so many people have used before and still make such an amazing record—that’s awesome. I mean, her songwriting is really on parade, as is the production. A million people are trying to make pop songs all the time, and you’ll listen to all sorts of failed attempts on the radio every day. To succeed in a medium that everyone is working in is a huge achievement, if you ask me. It takes a lot of intelligence and talent for sure.'
I think it's safe to say that Grimes threads are the new K-Pop waifu threads.
>>66054413
>her songwriting
>>66047894
I wanted to hate her, but for once here's a hipster chick that's not really a hipster chick. By which I mean, she actually appears to be a pure spirit having a blast with her life, making the sounds and melodies that make her happy. Very genuine I must say. A lot of these Pitchfork-endorsed clowns seem like soulless, manufactured, passive-aggressive bores. Not this girl.
>>66054720
dat shoes
>>66054795
What would you do with them?
>>66054832
give them to robert downey jr
>>66054892
+10
>>66047944
Is that Pete wendtz?
>Patrician
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ahnUH7wnW30
>>66055126
Not everyone would have enough balls to admit that they unironically like these. Grimes is so sincere.
>>66054892
kek
>>66052950
What, anon?
>>66055758
yes exactly like this
i can almost see her darting her eyes around, erming and ahhing as she doesn't know what to do before she wordlessly slips off to rejoin mike hana and james
>>66054720
That's right.
>>66055865
>>66054720
grimes is the kind of person the hipster wishes to be
a true individual with a soul that shines through and through. while the hipster is only weird because it's trendy, grimes is weird because it's who she is and she owns that.
>>66047894
If this makes Grimes a wunderkind then I guess I'm a genius too, because I've done and continue to do shit like this all the time.
>>66055865
>Implying she would get uncomfortable
>Implying she wouldn't stare back, fighting to stay planted as james tries to drag her away
>>66055126
Yes. You missed the point: that it's not her entire taste, just a small part of it. Unlike you, Grimes is honest about her music taste; she also likes Aphex Twin, Cocteau Twins, The KLF, Depeche Mode, Smashing Pumpkins, Beyonce, Lana Del Rey, Outkast, Panda Bear, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Tool, kpop, Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, Drake, Mariah Carey. A real patrician is confident and doesn't give a fuck about other's opinions about their taste.
>>66055994
You will be a genius when you'll make music as great as her. Until then you're just ordinary.
>>66056124
Music is a hobby. My art is literature. Her music also isn't nearly as incredible as people are telling me either, above average and worthy of praise, sure. But great? Works of genius? No, not at all.
>>66049955
>>66050006
i miss that coat
i miss that whole era of grimes
>>66056199
(You)
She's great regardless of what you think about her. Just give her few more years and you'll see that she will be as respected as Bjork.
>>66049946
its possible to download from youtube ya know
but i know you are trolling, just letting you know of the logal flaw that you made
>>66054413
poptimism has ruined music for an entire generation
>>66056288
It's not poptimism, it's the internet at large. Poptimism is just a symptom of the problem.
>>66056288
What is wrong with poptimism?
>>66054704
this
is she on drugs
>>66056355
It elevates entertainment to the station of art, to the detriment of all.
>>66055994
“all the information you ever need is on the Internet.” - Grimes
http://www.loudandquiet.com/2012/03/grimes-interview/
>>66056423
how ironic, considering her failed stint at an academic institution
>>66056420
art is entertainment, fool
that's the whole fucking point behind art.
>>66056420
But music is entertainment. Why do you think people are listening to music, go to festivals and shows? For the sake of the art or for enjoyment? There's nothing wrong with poptimism. Only elitist pricks have a problem with it. They also have a problem other people's taste instead minding their own damn business.
>>66047894
I really don't believe any of this, her music is pretty unextraordinary and she rarely says anything outside of Tumblr orthodoxy. For the most part she's a generic art school girl except kind of talented.
>>66056512
>>66056519
Art is entertaining. It is not entertainment. Its value is not defined solely by its ability to amuse. Entertainment is.
>elitist pricks
The classic poptimist insecurity, the thing that drives this entire idea, shows itself.
>>66056423
>Nonetheless, she acknowledges being in possession of a curious sex appeal, and is circumspect but pragmatic about its use.
>“My femininity is in no way the basis of what I am doing, but I know sex sells, for sure,” she says. “And I definitely have played that card. Sometimes, you’ve got to look in front of you and recognise that there is a way to make things slightly easier, which will lead to a lot faster success.
>“And that doesn’t mean being like, ‘oh, my tits are out’, but it does mean that if someone says do a fashion shoot, you do it, why not? I recognise that that’s not the purest way to look at it, but I just think I am really good, and I want power, and that’s a faster way up the ladder.”
>>66052839
jesus why did she fuck her hand up so badly
how pathetic do you have to be to pine over a mediocre electronic artist with below average looks who doesn't even know you exist
>>66056625
>Art is entertaining. It is not entertainment. Its value is not defined solely by its ability to amuse
Yes it is. Nobody makes boring art. If your art cannot pique interest it is worthless. It doesn't have to be amusing, it must simply entertain and provoke thought or feeling.
Pretentious art that's about meaning instead of abstraction has sullied modern art. Take your pitiful post-modernist conception of what "art" is and leave here, fool.
>>66049660
Not the same guy.
But I have, and she fucking sucks, you deluded cunt.
>inb4 you don't know anything bout music lol xd
I study music
>>66048880
she is kinda ugly.
>>66056589
Just your opinions, dude. No one believes you.
>>66056687
I'm amazed how people can be so shameless, even on an anonymous board, to admit that their taste is so inferior that they don't like Grimes.
>>66056730
The definition of entertainment you're using is different from mine. Interest and the provocation of emotion is not the same thing as being entertained.
en·ter·tain·ment
ˌen(t)ərˈtānmənt/
noun
the action of providing or being provided with amusement or enjoyment.
"everyone just sits in front of the TV for entertainment"
Art can entertain, but to be truly beautiful it must also challenge. This is where pop music inevitably fails, because by its very nature it cannot be challenging.
>>66056625
You're actually insecure. You fear poptimism and you fight it with any means necessary. Don't be a fool, embrace it. You could listen to high art music AND pop music (like Grimes did). Why limit yourself to just high art? Pretentiousness?
>>66056732
>I study music, therefor my opinion is worthwhile
no one gives a fuck, lad
if anything, this just makes you look like a complete and total moron.
"I study music!!"
gj, no one cares how you waste your time.
>>66056800
She's non-conventionally beautiful, which is great. It's like something for your amygdala to chew on, like rawhide for a dog.
>>66056849
Would you say a sad movie isn't entertainment?
>it must also challenge
Not really. Pic related.
Damn a grimes thread with very little talk about grimes?
who are you people and what did you do with my old /mu/?
>>66050178
>Yes, Grimes is doing her music mostly driven by feelings and instinct
Woah, just like most artist of popular music.
>>66056874
I do not listen to art music exclusively, I enjoy pop music too. The difference I don't elevate pop music beyond its station. Poptimists often make the assumption that if you don't value pop music like art music, that means that you must be a pretentious faggot that listens exclusively to Stockhausen every day of the week, this is not the case. I'm saying it's not on par, and it isn't.
>inb4 muh aesthetic relativism
>>66056968
"Sad" movies, as you put them, are usually inept attempts at emotional manipulation, in which the audience achieves emotional catharsis through bland characters. Tragic movies, on the other hand, are different. Once again, engaging and entertaining are two very different things.
>>66047894
>nearly kills self
and still made some bad tunes desu
"Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable." - Banksy
And if it happens to be REALLY great, smartly produced art it goes about it in an entertaining fashion. It really is that simple.
>tfw no experimental underground gf
>>66057168
there's a ton of girls like her, but not as talented
>>66057064
Nonsense.
Also there is no difference between tragic movies and sad movies. I hate when people try to play semantics as though it makes them any more correct, as though language is dictorial and not procedural. Only reinforced by the fact that you literally reached for an online dictionary in some appeal to false authority.
You really are 100% unironically pretentious in the worst sense of the word. Cease your posting at once.
Hold on hipster: who decided that she's mediocre? The critics and the electronic music connoisseurs (like me) certainly don't agree with you.
>>66048880
her nose makes her look like pic related.
>>66057237
>IRON WORKERS OF AMERICA
>IRON WORKERS OF AMERICA
>IRON WORKERS OF AMERICA
>IRON WORKERS OF AMERICA
what did she mean by this
>>66057218
It's not an appeal to authority, it's an attempt to establish some common ground for communication. This is why definitions exist. If I can't say a word to you and have it mean the same thing, then nothing can be established. You've not argued why tragic and sad are the same thing, you simply stated it, something to be expected from a poptimist.
>>66057326
Words are given meaning by solely by the context they are used in, and if you can't derive their meaning in the sentence given you should know to ask questions.
Instead of doing that and thinking yourself above asking questions, you've instead shown your true colors which if I'm being honest I had my suspicions of the moment you used the word "poptimist".
>>66047894
w2c KLF shirt
>>66056732
You study music and yet, you're a nobody and she's famous and respected. Studying something =/= you're good at it.
>>66056812
Shameless cunts. They better keep their mouths shut about it. No one wants to hear them whining all the times that Grimes sucks or something. Get a better taste cunts!
i want my comfy grimes threads back
please stop bickering :'(
>>66057426
By asking the question I fall into the rhetorical trap that has been set by the poptimist paradigm, it was clear what was meant when you said entertainment, (I'm not sure if you're the same person to be honest because that guy asked what was wrong with poptimism and it would be strange for you to take issue with the term when you called for me to embrace it.) it was a wide term that included all ways in which a piece of art can engage someone, which of course means that pop music and art music are on the same level, and any attempt by me to say otherwise is just "LOL PRENTENTIOUS." It's a rhetorical trap, not an honest attempt at discourse, which is why you've resorted to calling me a pretentious twat over and over again, because you don't have an argument.
>>66057054
>Woah, just like most artist of popular music.
Actually not. Most artists of popular music are driven by what's fancy, what is likeable to the masses. It's all very controlled.
why are you ppl denying the goddess that is Grimes she is a superior humanform
>>66057132
>Banksy
Out-dated pomo agitprop trash.
>>66057064
I'd argue that sad and tragic are just adjectives, when drama and melodrama are more appropriate when referring to the content of films, that is serious and facile respectively.
>>66057064
You hate pop music. What else is needed to be added? Any discussion with you is pointless. Stay snob if you like that so much.
>>66047894
>anime
>patrician
>>66057567
>By asking the question I fall into the rhetorical trap that has been set by the poptimist paradigm
>fearing the poptimists
Just like I said. You're insecure and snob. Your big words can't hide that.
>>66057696
A good point.
>>66057699
I don't hate pop music. I've already stated that. Trying reading.
>>66057760
Feel free to bring and argument instead of amateur psychoanalysis anytime.
>>66057894
If you don't hate pop, what's your problem with Grimes? Explain why you don't like her music with solid arguments.
>>66048842
>this fag doesn't love dfc
>>66057989
I don't have a problem with Grimes. I just don't think her music if genius or "great." I like it though.
>>66058189
Fair enough. But don't be surprised when you'll see many claiming that she's genius. If you'll ever properly listen to her music you'll see why.
that feel when Claire hate being called cute and hate waifufags, yet she is cutest waifu ever existed.
>>66058557
Claire is the most talented female musician of this decade.
>>66056633
mfw when waifufags call her "pure"
>>66058643
>Claire is the most talented female musician of this planet
>>66058688
she is pure in soul like an angel.
>>66047894
Wish I knew where to fucking find that KLF longsleeve. Got to be entirely out of print by now. I doubt highly that Drummond and Cauty would appreciate her wearing that openly, considering her hagiography was the very thing they tried to fight against.
Also, her lapdog boyfriend-in-waiting has already made better music than she ever will.
>>66058557
"When people say, 'Ohhh, Grimes is so cute and girly,’ I’m just like, 'Whatever. That’s what you want. I’ll just be that if that’s what you want me to be in your mind. I’m not going to fight that.’ It’s like the most first-world problem ever."
http://brightersummerday.tumblr.com/post/140813442023/grimes-the-happy-reader-winter-2015
>>66057168
What is this little silver box with a single big ass knob? I see it everywhere
>>66048199
>russians
>good
>>66058929
what's good for you?
Why is Grimes so popular on russian imageboards?
>>66058919
nvm I remembered to use the internet.
Wouldn't have imagined something so simple looking being an interface
>>66059025
She speaks russian.
>>66059025
she is russiaboo. russians love techno and rave
sosach was also mad about lady gaga
>“She changed into some kind of super-brain, exploring the internet all the time.”
If wasted time on the internet equates to intelligent I would be omniscient
>>66058853
>And my friend Mira wrote a book– she’s a really good writer– and I gave it to one of my other friends. It’s basically stand-up comedy but in the form of tweets, in a book. They’re aphoristic jokes, it’s really hard to describe. Selected tweets from Mira Gonzalez.
grimes confirmed for top plebeian
>>66058836
That's bullshit dude. The KLF fought the corrupt music industry, not indie artists like her. They would appreciate her wearing that shirt because Grimes is like The KLF: fucking fearless and determined. Not counting that both are huge fans of samplers.
>There’s a psychology to success. I was reading all these biographies and watching documentaries about people who are successful. It seemed like the only thread amongst everybody is that unflinching, “Yes, I can do this and I am the best.” It’s a personal rhetoric that you can develop. Like, if you go and tell journalists, “I’m the future of music,” then people start printing that. So I’m just going to tell everyone I’m making the future of music. I’M GOING TO FORCE THE SITUATION TO HAPPEN.
>>66059092
i follow her on twitter, she's really funny
>>66059082
If you would spend the time learning useful things like she did, that would be great. Who's fault that you used the internet for shitposting on 4chan and watching porn?
>>66059055
She sang Scream in Russian at Glastonbury.
>>66059116
so you're a 19 y.o. girl in a flyover state? cool
>>66059055
>>66059072
The russians take it very serious
2ch hk/ fag /res/2443627 html
>>66057605
I blame fluoride in the water supply. You cannot see the truth when your pineal gland is fossilized.
>>66059160
I know. But i hate russian hipsters so much that i am going to skip only grimes performance in my vicinity this year (because it will be full of dirty russians).
Hana is so hot and adorable, but she's just invisible next to Grimes
>>66059160
that's the russian way, whether it's literature, agricultural reform or waifus
>>66059160
Also this one
vk.com
/grimes
>>66059247
literal who?
>>66059160
Russians are pure sneaky bastards.
>>66059274
Hana, Grimes' right hand on her live shows.
>>66059247
She's a babe, love to see them together
>>66059287
Пiшoв нa хyй cocaкa.
>>66059274
Notice that girl in white on the left? That's Hana.
>>66059333
stop objectify grimes friend, objectify grimes instead like all normal posters
>>66059385
She looks better on stage.
What is Grimes' most emotional song?
>>66059441
angel
>>66059350
i'm not russian
>>66059153
no, I'm not any of those things
>>66059441
skin, hearbeat, devon
dude the russians have more r a r e pics of her and webms than us
>>66059247
>>66059332
>>66059333
>>66059385
>>66059391
>>66059431
My fantasy is to see them passionately making out
>>66059092
>aphoristic jokes
ew
>>66059534
The russians have photos of her even before she posts it on instagram or other social media
>>66059534
Russians are a focused and determined people.
it's time to learn russian, then
>>66059096
>indie
She's not "indie". Beggars Group manages her publicity. 4AD distributes her records.
>she's like the KLF
Did Grimes ever burn a million quid? Release music against the will of her rights holders. Or really do anything that wasn't bought and paid for. Show any act of rebellion to traditional musical standards. Ditch an award show. Anything.
Go read The Manual and get back to me. You can be confident that she did sincerely, without picking up the sarcasm within.
>>66059619
After Trump wins we all should.
>>66059619
I don't intend to learn, but I always pass by their Grimes threads
>>66059561
What? They're just good friends.
>>66059534
>webms
>4cuck
pick one
>sounds
>10 mb
pick none
>>66059592
>>66059593
>>66059619
Enough with the Russian propaganda.
>>66059743
How can you be so sure? they're always together, changing clothes and stuff...
>>66059769
Niet.
https://www.buro247.ru/culture/music/intervyu-buro-24-7-grimes.html
>>66049955
>A WOMAN
>talented
lel
>About Moscow and Slavic roots:
From Russia binds me more. My grandmother, for example, always spoke only in Russian and fed me soup. In general, I've always been interested in the idea of communism.
>>66059633
She's indie. Indie = independent. 4AD is an indie label. Grimes is an independent artist; she does everything except mixing and mastering.
>Did Grimes ever burn a million quid? Release music against the will of her rights holders. Or really do anything that wasn't bought and paid for. Show any act of rebellion to traditional musical standards. Ditch an award show. Anything.
Do you imply that she must be 100% similar to The KLF? Are you that stupid? Read again my previous post and then get back to me, funnyguy.
>>66059810
Ok russians... enought,
Go masturbate to your russian dota girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwJKjuyLv80
>>66059937
You're just afraid to admit that you like russians. You know you do.
>>66059975
nobody likes pidorashkas
I never really understood the hype around Grimes. She makes a few catchy pop tracks but there's nothing revolutionary about it once you strip away the visuals. I remember reading reviews about 'Art Angels' when it was first released and they kept going on about her fashion or use of non conventional instruments / glimpses of other genres mixed in but this is all sub par to any fans of Prog. Her interests are average for anyone who spends a lot of time on 4chan and producing/mixing your own records is no longer an amazing feat in 2015. Zomg a girl who can use cubase / logic etc whoopteedoo. I also found her music videos irritating. The subtext attached to the imaginary is really basic and only excites the minds of simple 14 year olds.
>To summarise - a few catchy pop tracks but nothing worth wanking over.
>>66060029
>worthless pasta
Ignore this troll. He doesn't understand anything.
I want to be claire boucher
pros:
I know my russian literature
I have some hard traumas
I'm on her level of intelligence
I'm 18
cons
not cute
not a girl
don't know much about experimental genres, or classical music, never tried to make music
didn't fuck myself up on drugs, only some weed here and there
what should be my next step?
>>66059883
I think what you're referring to as independent isn't what I'm talking about. 4AD is a major record label. They have a parent company, Beggars Group, who sign tens of artists to their sub labels. They have the industry connections, outreach, and standing within the music industry of a major, through their parent organization. They have PR firms, booking agencies, and talent orgs that befit their artists. All distribution of their records is done with little involvement in the artist side. "Indie" doesn't mean that you wrote the song yourself; it means you didn't sign to a major and had a major hand in how your records were distributed and how you were booked and represented.
As well, my point was that it's a bit of a stretch to compare Grimes and the KLF considering that their measure of "fearlessness" isn't remotely similar. They need to be similar in the sense that when you compare the two as "fearless", the actions that demonstrate that quality need to be of a similar caliber. Otherwise, being "fearless" doesn't mean the same thing between the two.
Grimes is not fearless in the same way that Cauty and Drummond were. She has done little to disrupt the industry. Maybe she's bit back a bit against her handlers, I don't know. I'd be glad to read how.
But she certainly hasn't done anything to attract the ire of the elite or her rights holders. Not the same fearlessness.
>>66060585
read victor pelevin, it will make you instantly into literature patrician, the one claire never was.
>>66047894
Grimes more like tak and the power of juju
>>66060585
if u have a mac, learn garage band
if u have a pc, pirate fl studio
download plugins and packs and start making tunes. play ur shit live and blow your measly pay on opium.
also start smoking opium.
OH SHIT ANON
you managed to snag a date with claire. this is your ONE and ONLY shot to leave a good impression on her.
Where do you go and what do you do with her on your date?
>>66060585
>I'm on her level of intelligence
Really...? I've always found people who claim to be intelligent are usually egotistical morons. It's one of the most big headed and narcissistic things someone can claim. If you're genuinely intelligent people will recognise this, you don't need to enforce it with verbal communication, you will prove it to yourself and others through conversation and actions. Ironically the people who claim intelligence are so blinded by their own belief that they can't see their own errors or downfalls. Then they surround themselves in sheeple friends who nod to their every command.
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Anyway if you're serious about becoming a musician find an instrument you like and take some lessons. Invest in yourself and start getting an ear for what genres you like and what inspires you. Copying Grimes isn't going to make you great, you want to make your own music. There's enough software out there for anyone with a computer to record some basic crap but if you can't play an instrument or understand basic music theory you'll be making shit tier garbage. This sort of thing takes years so don't expect to be easy or even be good at it because assuming making music on a 'computa is like pressin sum buttons' is very naive.
>>66060639
>4AD is a major record label.
You're confusing them with Warner, EMI, Sony, etc.
>4AD is a British independent record label that was started in 1980 by Ivo Watts-Russell and Peter Kent, originally funded by Beggars Banquet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4AD
Really, next time do your homework.
>Grimes is not fearless in the same way that Cauty and Drummond were. She has done little to disrupt the industry. Maybe she's bit back a bit against her handlers, I don't know. I'd be glad to read how.
She wrote many essays about how women are treated by this corrupt industry. She was quoted by most major music publications. Also being a female singer/songwriter/producer/music video director/visual artist helped improved the general perception that women can't be real artists.
>>66061066
I would bully her as much as I can. I would tell her that I pirated all her music and that she is my cutest waifu forever.
>>66061363
>calling Grimes cute in her face
Are you for real?
>>66061209
yes I felt pretentious as fuck when writing that, and you're right in the narcissism part (I've got a problem with narcissism, sometimes I unconsciously reject the opinions of people that I find dumber)
but at the same time I stated a "fact", we don't know much about defining intelligence and the different types of intelligence, so you could say I'm "conventionally intelligent" good grades, good iq
I forgot to mention I play guitar sometimes but I'm average/bad at it, never composed anything. jello and juggernauts is the hardest song I know, so you can get an idea of my skill level
I guess I'll download fl studio and see what I can come up with
>>66048282
who asked for your opinion?
>>66061504
b-but she is!
>>66049477
I bet you got a nice little dopamine rush writing that scathing review. How does Stockholm Syndrome feel?
>>66048282
lol plebbicus
>>66061957
Just don't say it to her.
>doesn't want to be called cute
>wears this
>>66061066
take her to the track and teach her how to find and drive a racing line
>>66061545
You stated an opinion of yourself, you come across as average. If you were intelligent you'd be in advanced classes, studying in college at an early age riding free tuition from scholarships thrown at you from every Ivy league. You also wouldn't be listening to Grimes thinking she's intelligent for having an interest in non conventional literature.
Now go make some music with your newly found angst from reality.
>>66062078
Harsh noise is the worst genre ever invented. Harsh noise sucks ass. Only demented autists listen to this musical diarrhea.
Even Brokencyde are passable compared with this retarded music.
>>66062112
I think this has been blown out of proportion. One blog entry from 5 years ago shouldn't be taken so seriously.
>>66062078
I'm not pleb for refusing to listen to retarded "music". If that shit could be called music. Good luck dumbing down your brain and destroying your ears.
>>66062252
college is free where I'm from, I don't think she's ingelligent because of her interest in russian literature, I do mainly because of the things she says in interviews
I never said that I'm a genius either, just that I percieve to be on her level
Did I mention that harsh noise sucks ass? If you enjoy this crap you're a retard.
>>66062331
Plebby nighttime /mu/. I shit on it.
>>66062160
Tsundere. But at least she still hate waifufags, so I can sleep calmly at night, because i know she will not ignore us with her usual "i don't care" routine.
>>66062428
I shit on your all harsh noise albums.
>>66062424
>>66062464
you did mention it and didn't respond when asked why your opinion meant anything
>>66062385
Dude you get the same pompous retards enjoying musique concrete. I had a semester on this at college and it doesn't get any better. There's no higher intellect for enjoying static noise, it's the audible equivalent of modern art. People dive headfirst into it, creating the most tantalising philosophical bullshit monologue about what it means to them when the reality is it's just simple noise that made you feel an emotive response. There's no point turning into anything more.
>>66062464
Big baby. Go listen to babys quiet music, not noise music, for men.
>>66062574
Good shit.
>>66062385
>sounds destroy your brain
>>66062574
Right, it's just fucking noise, not a Toccata by Bach. I could make an entire noise album in 10 minutes.
Also I hate the hacks that stretch a song to last 1 hour and calling that ambient music. That lazy shit sounds like shit and it's not art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bidHnEekXpE
They also try to imply that they're tough like this joker >>66062602
You're not a real man, just an insecure idiot trying to compensate something. Just like the idiots that drive huge cars.
>>66062762
Yes. It can affect your brain. That sounds like music for torture.
>>66062816
No, i'm not a real man, i'm a woman lmao. I dom cucks like you for breakfast.
>>66062816
You're a real man, albeit a pathetic one. If you truly cared about changing the state of modern music you would be composing instead of attempting to invalidate the idea of subjectivity in art. Use your fucking brain.
>>66062816
Le Süpërïör Patrician. May we all bow down
>>66062885
So turn it down, nobody listens to it at full volume.
>>66062602
>>66062900
>>66062905
>>66062954
You noise fans are pathetic. I suggest you to stop listening to that shit. It's not healthy.
>>66062905
You're making a big assumption there as I do compose and perform. Been doing so for the last 15 years, released multiple albums of different genres, been involved in multiple bands/projects of varying success. None of that validates or invalidates an opinion on art. As you already said it's subjective; therefore the subjective opinion of noise music being shit is valid whether you choose to agree or disagree. You're contradicting yourself you hypocrite.
>>66063124
Bend awa and take what's coming to you.
>>66057601
And Grimes' latest crap of a song wasn't that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EJMd7ZN7w
>>66063271
Kill V. Maim is a pop masterpiece, dumbass. KVM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all noise albums put together.
>>66063271
It's just a good pop song with a few subtle hints of individuality, omg she screams at one point. yawnnnn..... so anti establishment and alt. look they're all wearing cybergoth clothes and costumes in a mainstream video. SoooOOooo different and kewllllll
hey, redpill me on this lad. does he have a name or smthg?
>>66064308
I'm sure he banged claire, or maybe she wanted it and he didn't, who knows
>>66063160
But you said it wasn't art. You didn't say you thought it was shit, you said it was shit. Tha's objectivity, friendo. Also, no-one here cares about anything you have done in the last 15 years, you're just trying to re-affirm that you have some validity which you haven't proven to anyone here yet. Keep digging.
>>66064361
didn't he build the boat too. also saw him on stage.
>>66064446
I think that was another guy, william gratz
dude I feel so bad for d'eon
>>66048283
Classic projection, my dude.
>>66064640
Why?
>>66064605
yea
but mystery man still was on stage banging drum methinks
>>66064640
im half convinced one of the frequent posters is d'eon.
go stalk him on twitter, he seems like a jaded oldfag.
>>66056040
not a single one of those artists is patrician, actually most of them suck
>>66064640
I feel worse listening his music part on darkbloom
>>66064705
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>>66064717
sebastian cowan
This is my 7th Grimes thread that achieved 300+ replies...
>>66064777
oh, he looks like fugging kid
>>66064763
(You)
These are quality artists, unlike your shitty favorite bands that no one cares. Patrician =/= obscure.
>>66064789
you are faggot and your threads are shit. thanks god nobody even read the op.
>>66064308
Seb. He's a backstabbing greedy traitor who tried to use Grimes to his own ends.
When that didn't work he tried to pull a Brutus on Grimes who was like "Dude, no" and so she just left and made Flesh Without Blood.
>>66064789
we have become exceedingly efficient at discussing grimes...
>>66064760
https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/729808295263801344
dude he retweeted her answers and got ignored in the end IT'S SO SAD
>>66064640
At least claire-senpai noticed him.
>>66064861
Chill, faggot. Grimes is an interesting artist, worth discussing daily. Now, if you have a problem with that, suck a pen15.
>>66064941
https://twitter.com/ddddddeon/status/663848221727260673
no answer here either
>>66064909
he's a sys admin and he probably does it all remotely.
think about it for a second, he's probably living in a montreal hovel managing some hipster startup's network, constantly shooting heroin and thinking of how he let claire slip through his fingers.
poor d'eon.
>>66064909
That seems like a funny conversation between friends. Where's the problem?
>>66065010
How many notifications do you think she gets? It probably got lost in the sea of people tweeting at her daily.
HANA liked it, though.
>>66065096
he rt her answers, and if you check his twitter you'll find stuff like >>66065010 or rting news about her
>>66065144
https://twitter.com/ddddddeon/status/606651895751581697
>>66065297
I-I don't understand
what was he thanking her for?
>>66065341
I don't know either
d'eon, if you're reading this, I feel you man
>>66065385
he knows damn well that if he came to LA when claire's not on tour that she'd be down to chill. he and duffy are super precious to her, being some of the few friends from montreal who didn't turn their back on her for getting big.
instead he'd rather mope around montreal about computers and people touching his hair instead of reconnecting with his queen.
>Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere. It is difficult to imagine more humble origins than those of the genius now making music as Grimes, who is, in this critic’s opinion, nothing less than the finest musician in Canada. I will be returning to her live shows soon, hungry for more.
>>66065565
>she'd be down to chill
What that means? I'm not familiar with this slang and I'm not English.
>>66065746
go to bed scaruffi
>>66065833
smoke dude weed lmao and shoot some heroin
>>66065833
nothing romantic
poor d'eon
>>66065834
>never watched ratatouille, the best animation ever...
>>66065902
>the best animation ever...
I don't recall any of this in Puella Magi Madoka Magica
>>66066195
That can't never compare with Ratatouille.
>>66065833
she would want to hang out
>>66066286
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Puella Magi Madoka Magica
3. Citizen Kane
>>66066487
A change of speed, a change of style
A change of scene with no regrets
A chance to watch, admire the distance
Still occupied though you forget
Different colors, different shades
Over each mistakes were made
I took the blame
Directionless so plain to see
A loaded gun won't set you free
So you say
she would want to hang out
So you say
I bet when she takes off her shoes the smell of cornchips envelopes the room.
