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daebak editon
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twice can't sing

gfriend are ugly
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lisa..
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lovelyz
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can you guys post seulgi for my birthday
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>>66030467
>ywn have dry desert sex with taeyeon
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>>66030452
what happened to hyomin's face? fuck this is tragic
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How can I ensure I hit daebak in the next week?
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>>66030431
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>>66030483
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>>66030483
happy birthday
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>>66030474
this to desu honest
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Who is the best looking idol without make up?
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>>66030364
I didn't like it at first but I think it's good now. The point is that most of the songs don't have the fun style Big Bang usually has, so it's hard to get into it from the first couple of listens. Most people would just give up and move on.

>>66030373
Yeah, Loser has some nice lyrics and the song isn't bad. But if you don't read it you might dismiss it as another boring ballad.
There's definitely a lot of sincerity because I think it talks about something that everybody's been through at some point. One of the good things is that Big Bang can actually write emotional songs. Let's Not Fall In Love and If You have interesting lyrics too, but not Loser tier.

>>66030381
It's a very simple song so I get it when people call it a filler track. I just think it's simple and fun. You can't overthink that one.
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kei seems like she would be a huge bitch in real life
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>>66030494
background yeri tho...
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>>66030493
love her voice
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>>66030468
true
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stay hydrated if you're working outside! drink water even if you aren't feeling thirsty! heat stroke is no joke
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>>66030494
>>66030501
perfect thank you
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>>66030477
yes
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>>66030490
bad angle
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is 4minute - cold rain the saddest kpop song
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>>66030490
nothing? it's the same
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>>66030474
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>>66030548
jonghyuns dyphilliya grayi or something like this is
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>>66030536
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>>66030477
word
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>>66030516
how so?
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>>66030452
dang memer you're on a roll today
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>>66030467
is there an album with these?
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you should stop insulting Hyomin
because it makes me sad
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>>66030523
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>>66030302
They have no other choice. Their fans call themselves that.
They can make money except when it comes to Winner filling out concerts back when E was released. VIP and Inner Circle cursing out YG after it happened probably while supporting Winner.
YG shouldn't mediaplay at debut. It will give them hate when they actually debut. It happened to iKon and it'll happen again. I mean if they had one of the groups tour as much as a boy group and the other in Korea m, that would be a different story. Saying one group is a new Hallyu girl group or something but then people would complain that only SNSD should have the female hallyu touring title.
BlackPink is the ultimate distraction for VIP. They are currently angry or curious about what YG will do next for BlackPink rather than what is happening in August.
Well I can assure you their debut and mediaplay will be better than Gu9udan's. What a mess. I'll give you a recap of their debut showcase.
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>>66030532
>>66030570
Jisoo tho...
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>>66030468
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>>66030501
brightest smile in the WORLD
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>>66030548
it's one of them

sometimes on rainy days hits me a certain way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Pl8HjcIjw
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>>66030420
really??
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>>66030576
Christian cunt
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>>66030572
sometimes I do 4-8 threads in a row, one for every group I like
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>>66030588
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>>66030602
yes
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>>66030528
>if you aren't feeling thirsty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ScpIdvUnoY
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>>66030629
it's so perfect!
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taebutt
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>>66030608
i thought you only liked t-ara
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waka flocka flame should do kpop
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>>66030606
allahu ackbar
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>>66030641
i like it
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>>66030574
https://www.flickr.com/photos/135884794@N05/

Doesn't have all the album pics yet
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>>66030534
>>66030550
i'm not sure about that, something's changed, her face looks very strange sometimes now
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>>66030640
nice that we are thinking the same.
that happens rarely in kpg
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>>66030646
I love t-ara, nine muses and after school
and like few more
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>>66030568
Wording this post
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>>66030641
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The only girl for me
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>>66030670
it's so exciting and melancholy at the same time it makes me feel happy and lonely what a lovely song~
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omo
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>>66030699
who the FUCK is this WHORE???
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>>66030676
o neat we're like the same person except im cuter and prefer jiyeon
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>>66030505
>>66030474
>>66030552
holy.....our girl.....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z08cHXqxDkU

And people here are saying Twice can't sing just because of a pointless Mister Removed video...
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>>66030583
At this point I'll get what I can. Even if it's another iKON track like WYD, which I actually happened to enjoy a lot.
YG shouldn't try doing anything but release music. I think if they let the idols handle their careers it would probably be more successful without the company holding them back.
Actually the Big Bang movie is happening soon, sooner than imagine. First week of July or something. There was even an event for it (pic related) but I haven't watched it yet though it should be up on their V channel by now.
I saw something about Gugudan having a mascot, that was cute. But still Blackpink got me gone crazy. Super excited.
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>>66030714
anyway...
I'm out now
have a nice day
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>>66030699
>no ass
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>>66030699
that ass has to be photoshopped
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>>66030709
hyoeun from stellar
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>>66030676
you don't love f(x)...
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>>66030737
okay, so long
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>>66030725
you piece of shit you baited me into listening to this awful perf
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>>66030699
literally rock hard right now looking at that slightly larger than normal korean butt
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>>66030590
Yuju looks great here
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>>66030725
>I hope Nayeon doesn't strain her voice too much. It's okay to crack.

These comments are fucking hilarious
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>>66030689
yes this piano at the beginning starts very dramatically but then she comes with that "put your hands on me"
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>>66030699
Someone stole her ass
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>>66030741
>>66030744
the panties are too tight, that's why
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>>66030725
https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/3smb6c/live_on_air_with_twice_like_oohahh/
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>TFW Twice is storing energy to eliminate YGs new GG
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>>66030725
my ears are bleeding
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so what did that one guy who likes sonamoo think about the new album?
i thought it was decent going in with no expectations
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>>66030840
he killed himself because this new song is shit
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>>66030823
delulu onces
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>>66030823
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>>66030590
nice chin lmao
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>>66030725
twiceboy looks bored af
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>>66030776
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>>66030840
more than one person likes sonamoo tho
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>>66030827
I thought this was the Tzuyu ISIS hostage video.
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>>66030862
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>>66030725
This shows the true singing standard of twice. Everything you have heard on music shows are mostly just the MR. Interesting how out of 9 girls there isn't a single one who can sing well. And now for cheerup they don't even want to sing live on radio anymore.. I wonder how would they even perform on Immortal song with this standard?? This is even worse than gfriend.
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>>66030725
haha
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>>66030899
vomit
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>he spends his time on kpg for his birthday
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>>66030725
I thought jihyo was supposed to be stable...
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>>66030902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk1rxNXodN0
they already performed on immortal song, such a fail
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hbd
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>>66030931
you guys are my friends
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>>66030933
twiceboy is the most stable i would say at least here
>>66030938
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>>66030853
I know Yoona has a long neck but something is wrong with this picture!
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>>66030731
I'm not taking iKON WDY and it wasn't even that bad.
Its funny that their idols gonthere because they are a top agency, yet the agency hold them back. I'll miss all the soloists that signed on since they'll be gone for a few years.
Its the VIP (no pun intended) primere of their movie. It is subbed on Youtube and V as of now. Other than YG artists, Jimin was there.
Basically people only came for Mina and Sejeong, their debut song is a mess, and their album was average. Jellyfish didn't take enough of Vixx bucks to give them something nice. They then mediaplayed that they beat EXO, BTS, and Twice on Hanteo. Lmao. They overworked Mina and Sejeong for nothing.
Not gonna jump on the hype train since I'm already on. I don't see the need to create a competition with Twice. I guess guys like to see competition bebtween girl groups since "there can only be one" mentality.
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they edit twices songs so much that you cant distinguish their voices
not even SNSD songs are that edited
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>>66030961
>>66030961
>>66030961
happy birthday anon
how old?
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>>66030938
that video really just shows how much all those koreans want to c*m on chewy's face

the desire is so strong they've deafened themselves to the actual song
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wonder if every night the twice girls look at each other in disgust at how much they all suck and cry themselves to sleep
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>>66030995
WDY was the worst song of 2k16
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>>66030993
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>tfw you will never bang your little momo sister
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>>66030961
tell me what you want posted and ill do it you old fuck
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>>66031007
I didn't even know they were singing or that the rest of twice was there at all. all I could think about was tzuyu getting bukkaked
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>>66031018
long neck perfect for...
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>>66030993
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>>66031049
at least you're honest
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDBB4I0WRRY

IOIs performance is much better than twices
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>>66031068
Giraffe
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>>66031068
so graceful
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>>66031073
is yeri seriously asking that?
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>>66031068
hul, her neck has great proportions, it's really no joke
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>>66031073
>that JTBC performance was goat
>this performance is goat
>all their performances on p101 was goat
>their mini was fucking shit

how did this happen
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>>66031017
There were worse songs. Gu9udan's for example
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>>66031082
Apatosaurus
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>>66031003
24
>>66031044
seulgi pls
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>>66031107
YMC is doodoo that's why

Plus perfs with live bands are automatically better
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>>66031105
get out Fritz
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YERI IS SHIT
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>>66031107
because of their bad agency and sohye
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>>66031127
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>>66031107
>their mini was fucking shit
lol no. average in kpop standars
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>>66031130
YMC should have just taken live performance recordings, adjusted them a little, and released that as the debut album with a bonus track

and if anyone starts saying shit they could say a better "original" mini was coming later
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>>66031133
get out asshole
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>>66030995
YG is a mess I am surprised the public still falls for their memes like the hype with Blackpink. I mean, I personally like their style but the one or two releases per year thing is off putting.
Yeah, there was the Movie Talk with the members. That's already up but I don't have the time to watch it just yet. Jimin from BTS? Interesting. I guess he isn't bad.
Gugudan was so bad... Did they perform on a show yet? I saw the EXO BTS Twice mediaplaying thing. lol... That's sad.
I think both Twice and Blackpink have different things going for them. No need to create tension.

>>66031017
Is it really that bad? I mean, I didn't like it at first but it turned out to be a good song after a while imo.
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>yfw Krillin doesn't press the button
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>>66031073
this perf is legendary desu
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>>66031146
i love her smile
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>>66031110
"Why"... kek
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>>66031178
>hfw I press all my momo imouto's buttons
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>>66030853
WTF
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WE
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>>66031073
yoojung slays with her rap
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>>66031073
>only 99k views

people are missing out
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>>66031228
kek
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>>66031229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYVS4gjwj-E

good song
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>>66031245
probably bc the title is written in korean
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>>66031228
ahhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>66031269
NEVER CRY :)
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>>66031269
nice lesbian couple in there
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>>66031228
thats our deer yoongie
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>>66031269
dont let siyeon rap, she's such a good singer
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>>66031269
we('ll be) alright
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omo...
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>>66031228
See that's what I was saying!!
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>>66031271
damn shame

whoever arranged that perf did a good job too, it feels distinct compared to the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxQAGHhF95o&list=PLE8GNlkFQG0y2-k2fQhY33qaUwL_ObPt7
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tfw the realisation kicks in I will never have a kgf
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posting with an avatar is against the rules
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>>66031438
is it because of the WE MV?
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>>66031415
post another halloween lovelyz
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>>66031415
it sounds better than the original omg!!!!
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>>66031438
not with that attitude mister
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>>66031051
perfect for.....
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what do we think about AOTY?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakZewxGIl4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syEBnb2S37g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NlFUUzTePc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGh91ngfn5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m2ysA__ueY
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>>66031461
sadly woollim didn't let lovelyz didn't dress up for halloween so their fans had to help out

>>66031493
I prefer IOI's too, it's so much more lively
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Exited for Gfriend comeback!
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>>66031526
I love it
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>>66031228
our girl
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>>66031539
i'm going to exit for gfriend's comeback too
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>>66031536
did jisoo wear a witch hat
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>>66031526
I thought it was just a single so I only listened to hate
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>>66031526
i downloaded the whole album, it's so good.
But i would say taeyeons album or jonghyuns album is better
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[INFO] JTBC's 'Girl Spirit' 1st episode setlist and performance order!

Own song + A song of their choice

Spica Bohyung - Tonight and Boohwal Lonely Night
Fiestar Hyemi - Apple Pie and 2ne1 If I Were You
Ladies Code Sojung - Galaxy and Primary Don't Be Shy
Bestie Uji - Excuse Me and Davichi 8282
Laboum Soyeon - Journey to Atlantis and Taeyang Where U At
Lovelyz Kei - Destiny and IU Friday
Sonamoo Minjae - I Like U Too Much and EX Nice To Meet You
CLC Seunghee - No Oh Oh and Jinju I'm Okay
OMG Seunghee - Windy Day and Shinee Dream Girl
April Jinsol - Tinkerbell and IU Hey
WJSN Dawon - MoMoMo and Lim Junghee Music Is My Life
Pledis Girlz Shannon - We and Lena Park In Dream

The order is based on their debut date
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>>66031578
yeah but I don't have many pics of her in this hat
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>>66031588
She released Hate and Flower a couple weeks back. She very recently released the entire mini though which was linked.
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>>66031526
she produced it all by herself, huge respect. i love her so much.
She needs an award for this
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>>66031603
when?
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>>66031603
so it's bohyung instead of boa
i hope she doesn't have to talk lol
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>>66031605
few red yezis few witch jisoos... this is an outrage
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>>66031526
I like it
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>>66031175
I'm falling for it on purpose. Only girls I've got left are Pledis Girlz since Jellyfish betrayed us all.
One or two releases every three years like Lee Hi...
I didn't watch it yet either. Probably tonight. Jimin is a nice boy. All the members probably trying to kill each other for that ticket but Jimin is the only one able to go. V has a movie, Suga is producing, J Horse is grazing in a field somewhere, Jungkook has a lot of varity shows, and Rap Mon probably has to help Big Hit with auditions. I feel sorry for them since they all want to go.
Also reminder, BOYS ONLY
lmao, let it go, Big Hit.
They were supposed to debut on The Show but I missed it. Jellyfish used to mediaplay with VIXX when they were nugu but now they've stepped it up. The whole thing was too funny.
It is sad. There is room at the top of the rookie girl group game for more than one group. They will have different fanbases because of their styles.
I'm out for now. Will be back in an hour or so.
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>>66031603
JINSOL, BOHYUNG, SOJUNG, SOYEON and BOTH SEUNGHEEs!!!!
I can't wait. I need to watch this
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>>66031618
Word, and it actually sounds new and refreshing.

I love how she goes in this direction for her own work, and then for Dal Shabet she works on these huge bangers.

>>66031589
I really only liked Dress Up, Moon, and Suit Up from Jonghyun's album 2bh.
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>>66031438
i hope you are over 30. Else fuck you
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>>66031603
>Sojung - Don't Be Shy
my DICK
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>>66031657
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>>66031603
>Pledis Girlz Shannon - We and Lena Park In Dream
wow they're already promoting?

pledis girlz hwaiting!~
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>nanimo
>chotto

are they speaking japanese in this song?
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>>66031679

fridge ruins yet another webm
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>>66031639
Sistar's mini is also really good. String is great and Yeah Yeah gives me good Loving U vibes.
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>>66031638
finding red yezis shouldn't be hard but I don't think many people took pics of jisoo when she had the hat on, I think she might have just borrowed it from jin for a short time
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>>66031657
imagine this girl showing up as a foreign exchange student
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>>66031700
fridge literally created the cute yoona webbem
our girl fridge she knows what we want
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>SISTAR’s Bora and EXID’s Hani appeared as guests for the episode of JTBC’s “Please Take Care of My Refrigerator”.

>Kim Sung Joo and Sam Kim, who substituted for Jung Hyung Don as a special MC, observe Bora’s refrigerator. They discover items, however, that have been neglected in the fridge for too long. They first find fish eggs made in 2006. Soon afterwards, they find river snail meat from 2004.
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>>66031536
most believable kpop witch I have ever seen
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>>66031725
I want to impregnate fridge
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Post webms of Hyosung working her lewd body
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>>66031796
omooo
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Make me a fan of Im Yoona. Show me her charm
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>>66031775
Bora is so disgusting.
How old was she in 2004? Why would someone keep river snail meat that long?
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>>66031704
oh i see.. is this picture from the same event? hamsterween??
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>>66031775
>fish eggs
>snail meat

no one wants to eat that stuff Smh
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>>66031819
her egghead
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>>66031819
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SUBIN
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>>66031646
So I am. It's too good to avoid. Not so sure about Pledis Girlz... I might stick to BP and RV for a while. And April for the memes.
Boys Only, lol. Big Hit knows how to hit big. They just need to hire a more experienced staff to avoid more scandals.
Starlights will never accept Nugudan. Sad. See ya.
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>>66031603
>Ladies Code Sojung - Galaxy and Primary Don't Be Shy
fucking based
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>>66031840
shinee everybody??
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>>66031856
BBB Subin = best Subin
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>tfw no Eunseo wife to cook you spicy meals everyday..
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>>66031839
>he doesn't dine on caviar and escargot with some wine on a weekly basis

utter pleb
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>>66031526
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NlFUUzTePc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syEBnb2S37g
love these but i wouldnt say this is AOTY.
I dont think any album deserves that title yet actually.
Street was close with 3 songs but still, nothing has been outstanding this year
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>>66031848
pabo
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>>66031888
solo subin = best subin
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Gonna SHINE Gonna SHINE
Gonna SHINE Like a flower
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sinb?
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>>66031619
they recorded some yesterday. all of lovelyz were there
i don't think it's actually airing until july 19th though
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>>66031178
>tfw you spot another manface being a manface
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>>66031888
subin is subin
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>>66031819
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>>66031603
>Spica Bohyung - Tonight and Boohwal Lonely Night
she's going to slay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1ctcZyN18
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>>66031900
Ladies Code album/EP was good
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yoona's charm is her many animal sense
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>>66031919
never reply to me again
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>>66031945
GAP
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>>66031796
Do you have the video for this?
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>>66031825
it's from a different fan sign on the same day
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>>66031922
no qt chinese goblin wife
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>>66031796
webbems are videos :3
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>>66031956
*faints*
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo4PTqi-0EA

lmfao this fucking show
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>>66031972
pinky > tzuyu
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First 6 hours
I am doing well?
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>>66031983
jiho slay
why is chewy invited there?
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>>66031991
indeed
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>>66031922
good broadcast
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLddEFNDVWI

literally you guys
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>>66032050
stop shilling your channel here
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>>66031954
there's about 20-30 releases on the same level though
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>>66031819
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gfriend teaser
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Lisa is literally my first SEA crush. I never found any of them attractive at all. Whats happening my chingus?
>>
SUBIN
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>>66032064
you're getting old and desperate
>>
>>66031603
>Sonamoo Minjae - EX Nice To Meet You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sdF3UxGhEw

minjae is probably getting eliminated in the first round with this song
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>>66032064
she's really hot
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>>66032004
>that pic
are you a gfriend anti
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>>66032058
still better
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>>66032070
I'mIN
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>>66032063
Eunha looks gorgeous in the new teasers, the non-school uniform concept feels so natural, we should be getting audio teasers soon
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>>66032019
pinky is so fucking beautiful lads
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>>66032063
>>
pinky is a god damn uggo you idiots
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>>66032123
kys chinks are the future
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she has a cute dimple which i didn't notice in the mv
>>
there's a girl in germany who did prostitution with 14. nothing in contrast to sponsoring in korea
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>>66032083
>are you a gfriend anti
Nah, i just want to trigger people there
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>>66031652
I liked all of Jonghyun's tracks but those especially.

>>66031857
They will probably be like the female Seventeen so I'm on board. Have to be with Twice since *whispers JYP*. April sure has it hard but Sawori will save them.
They avoiding GLAM incident and the huge possibility of making less money because female groups make less. Rap Mon wasn't kidding when he said there were no female trainees at Big Hit.
Lmao, they should fire some of their staff and rehire people that can get the job done and done well. They really don't need to mediaplay at this point.
Ken, Hyuk, Hongbin, Leo, and Ravi already told Starlight to support them and they will do it. They'll stream their song but I doubt they'll buy the album if it is more expensive than VIXX's last mini. Will be back, good news, ect.
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>>66032152
>a girl
there's probably hundreds of girls like that in germany 2bh
>>
>>66032146
Who?
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>>66032123
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>>66032118
Have you got the rotating gif version? it's cute
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I wish pale moon wasn't so broken on youtube
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>>66031073
I can't stop watching this perf. I wish more perfs were like this, it feels like they actually took advantage of the number of members in the group and the strengths of each member.

Does immortal song allow backing tracks? The harmonies sound too good to be true for a live kpop group perf.
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>>66032177
Gugudan's maknae Hyeyeon
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>>66032092
pfffhrrrt
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>>66032123
forgot your whozu
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yoona is perfect
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>>66032146
what kind of weirdo dimple is that
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rate my rapping, do you reckon i could get a record label
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vivCYP7fEa
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>>66032227
15 years...
Thanks god I found her ugly
Nayoung (?) is the best one
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>>66032257
you could probably join twice
>>
yeah word I agree lisa is fucking amazing
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best gugudan
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>>66032284
shame about the thai blood
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>>66032278
You mean Gfriend
Chaeyoung is a good raooer
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>>66032294
sally tho
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>>66032294
manface
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>>66032223
didn't sound like they used backing tracks until i heard pinky at 1:37
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>>66032284
word, fucking lisa is amazing
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>>66032303
I love all of her thai fluids

>>66032316
omo
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>>66032305
kek your fingers wouldn't even let you type it out
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>>66032284
in bed
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>>66032284
Shame about the dick...
I would still suck it tho
>>
>>66032305
raoor >:3
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subin appreciate
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>>66032255
It could be a scar, someone get a hold of Han Hyeri for me asap I'm going to plan a duet stage

>>66032261
Director Nayoung. she's really pretty
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>>66032223
in this perf they sound better together than the pick me version on their album
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>>66032328
boing boing
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>>66031073
> that high notes slay three minutes in

ioi could have been THE group
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>>66032349
yein tho
>>
>>66032330
>>66032334
>Tipped raooer instead of rapper
Fuck...
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>>66032347
omo..
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>>66032278
yes and then subunit with dahyun & momo
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>tfw she the whole thing
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>>66032349
Jisoo tho
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>>66032376
you just wanna bang them backstage and in the practice room
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>>66032361
word
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>>66032354
doyeon, chaeyeon and sohye out and the group, sohee, mina, han hyeri, nayoung and siyeon in and the group would have been perfect
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>>66032407
duh
>>
What's a good fancam for doing something
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>>66032413
omooo yein is ready...
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subin is talented
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>>66032435
>>
>>66032430
most lime fancams
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>>66032430
do it to chorong
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