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Beginner information and FAQ:
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Music Theory:
>http://www.justinguitar.com/

Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php

String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/

Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>http://youtu.be/umY5NBKg5AA?list=PLcm7Ag6Q-OkZAmlY6dAhS2ZL9TUMeRZdI [Open]

Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar

Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav

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>Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg

Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd

Old Thread: >>65907286
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Kahler or Floyd Rose?
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>>65927305
Floyd
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post favorite picks
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>even my guitar is an edgy cunt
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>>65927766
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Rate my jazz improv (might be shitty oh god)

https://clyp.it/0ad5myvo
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>>65927766
its so good for strumming and lead work
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>>65927881
>>65928024
try out some of the John Petrucci picks. same shape and material, but the tip is smooth.
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>>65928024
Absolute best.
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>>65927864
>esp
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R8
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>>65928295
What's up Chuck

>Buying sig models
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Hows the lag arkane 66, is paying an extra 120 euro for the 100 worth it? Any guitar recommendations for mostly hard rock? I have a budget of ~350, maybe push to 400 for a new electric guitar, been playing acoustic for a couple years if that helps.
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>>65928334
Would be silly not to buy it for 200 euros
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>>65928385
>for 200 euros
where do you all get your fucking deals all I can find are 5$ recorders and chink guitars

>>65928334
>>Buying sig models
It's fine if they have something unique. Like Yngwie's scallopped fretboard, the Meshuggah sig's 30" scale and close as hell to the bridge pickup, or pic related
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>>65927292

What alternatives are there to a UX2?
All I really want is a stereo signal in to record on some pirated DAW
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>>65928232
i used to love using really thick picks but the ultex one just does picking and strumming so well, nothing becomes muddy for me with them
>>65928047
will try those sometime, thanks
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is it okay if I shamelessly post my guitar piece here? I also challenge you to guess which guitarist I am massively inspired by, the second one is easier to guess with

https://soundcloud.com/alon-shechter/flowing-and-dwindling

https://soundcloud.com/alon-shechter/laps-on-over-and-through
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>>65928334
What's wrong with sig models?
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>>65928433
>>65928533

Because you pay premium price for guitar with some name on it, for that kind of money you can order custom built model to your specs. That's just dumb thinking buying any kind of sig model
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>>65928594
Well, than maybe yes. But as I said I've paid 200 € for this so it's not a case.
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>>65928625
There is an exception to every rule
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>>65928594
not true in any case...
Show were I can let me built a semi hollow Les Paul for the price of a PRS zach myers..
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>>65927292
So I'm using this doohickey in place of an amp since it basically does preamp and power amp duties before running directly into a mixing board.

My question is, since there's no effects loop on it, where do I put my modulation and time-based effects in the chain?

Do I need to put them after the output and then run them through a separate DI before going to the board?
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I have a TC Spark Mini that I use as a simple volume boost toggle. Should that go at the very end of my effects chain? Should I run it through my Decimator G String noise suppressor, or is it better to run it after the noise suppression?
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>>65928655
I'd rather buy no name guitar for same price as Zach's PRS, because carrying someone's other name on your guitar sounds silly to me, at least. But if you want it go ahead
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>>65928718
I don't want it, it's just an example.
But if you really wanna get a semi hollow LP without paying laughable prices then you have to go the sig route
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>>65928718
People have idols and heroes so the signatures appeal to them. I'd never buy one, even if it was for one of my favourite artists since I think making your guitar your own and working with a budget is way cooler than paying to have a copy of someone else's.
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>>65928710
what else do you have in the chain?
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Opinions on PRS Se Standard?
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What can you say about ESP E-II FRX?
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>>65928845
Try before you buy, decent guitar for the money though
>>65928910
Try before you buy, pretty expensive guitar, not enough modern features for the price imo
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any1 got tips for pawn shops? im trying to buy some used pedals. how much is too much?
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>>65928825
Guitar > Tuner > Compressor > Wah > [Overdrive > Distortion] > Phaser > EHX Iron Lung > Volume Boost > Sansamp Paradriver > Mixer

The items in Brackets are the effects currently running in the noise suppressor's loop.
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>>65928594
>you pay premium price for guitar with some name on it
the point i'm making is that paying for extra special option makes sense.
I doubt you're getting a custom built 8 string for $1k
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2 speaker related questions

1) Anyone ever use pic related? How was it? Did it make a noticeable difference with whatever stock speaker you replaced it with?

2) Anyone ever make a speaker cabinet before? I'm thinking of doing one for an old Celestion V12-60 I have lying around. Is it a simple process or will I want to kill myself in frustration by the end?
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>>65929096
If you mean simply building a cab, it's basic carpentry, anyone with the right tools can do it.
Designing the dimensions is harder, a lot of maths and you have to be sure of what you want. You can just copy another cab wit the same speaker if you're lazy
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>>65928436
Literally anything else. The pres on the UX line kind of suck, and if I remember correctly they don't have phantom power.

Anything Focusrite like a Scarlett 2i2 or something would be fine.
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>>65928845
Like any PRS, will make you look like a fucking dad.
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>>65928481
Nah man, it's cool.

Some people here get butt hurt if you post your own guitar music because they're scared of leaving their comfort zone of just posting pictures of squires.

But this sounds great man. Awesome job.
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>>65928935
That looks about right if you're using it purely as a volume boost.

I use my clean boost before my dirt pedals for gain stacking fun.
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>>65927766
I like the feel and size of Jazz IIIs for jazz lines, but I prefer the sound of big heavy tortex. What can give me both?
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>>65929297
jazz III tortex?
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hey /gg/
what's your opinion about Grestch and this model in particular?

http://www.thomann.de/gb/gretsch_g2655t_blk_streamliner.htm
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>>65929369
you should go to a shop and play it

when i played a red one of those it felt okay
gretschs always feel weird to me though
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>>65928686
Use a send on the mixer m8.
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>>65929297
2.0 ultex jazz III
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anyone else here record shitty covers of themselves playing songs? i have a bunch of videos of me playing and singing to songs that i don't have the voice to sing at all but its super fun.
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>>65929744
i delete most of mine as soon as i'm done recording them
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>>65929297
try the jazz 3 tortex ones, or the jazz 3 ultrex ones

i bought a 6 pack of the ultrex ones, they have a very slippery sort of sound, it's hard to describe. i like it, but most of the time i just stick to max grip jazz 3 nylons
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How can i get this solo tone? I know the guitarist uses a Telecaster and a Peavey amp but it sounds so tick for a Tele, any idea how?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gOCzxYxR2g&feature=youtu.be&t=227

Also rate my guitars
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>>65929205
thanks anon!
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>>65927292

Replacing pots on my bass. Is putting the knobs back on really necessary? Can I short something or something?
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>>65930085
No

Why wouldn't you put them back on though? Do you want them to be difficult to use?
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What's the absolute worst guitar you've ever played, excluding starter stuff? (bullets and affinities and such)
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>>65930130
Fender Blacktop Baritone Telecaster

Overall fit and finish was fine (as you'd expect for a MIM) but the tuners and pickups were absolute hot garbage and the placement of the bridge meant it was physically impossible to intonate the low string.
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>>65930037
they have alot of aesthetic value
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>>65927916
Its not bad

The only issue that I hear is that you're falling into what I find a lot of beginners fall into - You're overthinking what you're playing. There are passages where you're quickly going through scales and that's cool but I wouldn't stick to that for too long. The parts where you've got a solid melody going with little scales pushing you between melodic ideas are excellent. Don't be afraid of silence, either. Pauses can take any solo and take it over the top.

Overall, though, you're doing really well, I think.
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>>65930119

i think the shafts on my replacements are slightly bigger and it's a really tight fit. don't feel like messing with it
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>>65930130
gibson sg gothic

what a piece of shit. the fret ends all stick out, the nut is sharp and it nearly cut my thumb, ugly big, thick and wide neck profile. pickups sound awful. body felt ok because it's just an sg body.

3/10 guitar, burn them all
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>>65930130
Gibson Thunderbird bass/Gibson EB-0

They both had necks that were uncomfortably thick and round, and the pickups just sounded like shit

Like, with the EB-0 in particular, it just sounded like someone was farting and it was just bad

I play a 5-string almost all the time and the necks on both of these basses were just way too thick for me and I couldn't do anytihng

They also have no high fret access - my shitty ibanez gio bass is better than both of these
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>>65930130
Most guitars I've played and thought were bad were just badly setup.
However, there's a serious issue with the tremolo equipped Ibanez S, the tremolo bar kept bumping into the pickup selector no matter how I held it. I also bump too much on the knobs on strats when I strum, both of these are retarded.
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>>65928481
Good stuff mate. I always like it when guitarists/bassists post their music here.
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does anyone have any thoughts on the Yamaha SGV 300?

I'm seeing a couple on ebay for about 500 bucks but I think that may be too much. I'm just mainly looking for a guitar with a trem system for surf type stuff
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>>65927766
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>>65930922

nerd
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>>65930930
You don't even know m8
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>>65930130
Aria diamond
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>>65930504
>I also bump too much on the knobs on strats when I strum
Learn how to strum using proper placement, not sawing, and that won't happen. Pic related, look for the worn pup covers.
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>>65931018
Yeah but it looks cool when you strum with your whole elbow
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>>65930621
*vibrato
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>>65927766
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>you will never have a gf from the US who could buy me Hamer Phantom A7 and bring it here to Europe
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What's your favorite 12ax7 pre amp tube /gg/? I'm looking for a replacement for my micro dark terror. I'm looking for clarity and mids.
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>>65931018
I'm not going to bother relearning my whole strumming technique just for one guitar I don't even plan to own. It's just the knob is too close the strings for my taste, and I like being able to strum anywhere on the string to get the sound I want.

>>65931193
I'm interested as well, I got the same amp.
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>>65930260
Basically, don't blaze through notes all the fucking time? Got it. Introduce interesting rhythmic notes and phrases? Got it.
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>>65931263
How do you like it? I just ordered it last night and I am fucking hyped for it to arrive. I'm playing it through a 4x12.
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>>65927766
I use Wegen gypsy jazz normally, but lately I've been loving these for a smoother sound.
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>>65931302
pros : nice distorted tone, clean tone's enough for me, enough volume to go over drums and bass (playing it through a 1x12"), weighs nothing and small as fuck (which looks retarded on top of a 1x12 but whatever), also super cheap.

cons : tone knob feels weird and unintuitive, I feel also like the gain knob adds in some bass past a certain point (which I don't need to go over because of hot bridge humbucker), and the blue LED's going to burn through your retina.

It has its flaws, but I really like it.
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>>65927766
the two i use most frequently. medium picks are so comfy
>>65929744
>record cover of a cheesy, easy, I V vi IV progression, pop song, 3 million views
>record cover of a beautiful guitar masterpiece with great lyrics and guitar work, 200 views
facebook is such an odd place
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>>65931466
I've heard that the tone knob becomes more dynamic with a tube change. I'm gonna pick up some tung sol 12ax7s to try out.
Here's a video that helped me decide, thought it might help you out too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMeCNjkEaeM
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>>65927292
>Parker fly in the op
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>>65931570
forgot pick : )
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>>65930324
You can track down knobs that will work with the different shafts. But making sure to have knobs that fit the pots is a step that people definitely look over from time to time.
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>>65929756
I record till I can enjoy it
It's either really good or I've brainwashed myself into overlooking the mistakes
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>>65931193
I like 6n2ps but the heater wiring is different (also better for hum). They're like $2 a hit and most are nos.
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>>65931578
I haven't changed the preamp tube in mine, but I think it's a JJ ECC83S, looks the same
http://www.thomann.de/fr/jj_nn003_roehre_ecc83s.htm

As for the video, I don't really like the tones in either three exemples but holy shit the mesa sounded BAD. I'm still curious about them because as I said, I didn't really like any of the tones showed, but damn that surprised me.
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>>65931826
Yeah those mesa tubes would make my ears bleed from the treble. I like how thick the tung sol is , I just hope there's still some articulation for chords with it. I'm ordering it off amazon so I can return it if it sounds like shit.
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>go to guitar center
>Buy the first pack of picks I see
>They are the .38 mm kind

fUCK
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>>65931954
tape them together
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I want to build a cool stripped down Charvel-style guitar.

For the finish I'm gonna go with oil over stain. I've thought about doing a nice walnut brown but I'm also thinking about doing cherry. I just want something simple that looks cool on an alder body. Any suggestions?
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>>65927881
>>65928024
I love it for bass but for guitar i prefer jazz III
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>>65931861
Yeah, but you've got to take in account the fact the EVH5150 III has 7x 12AX7 while the micro dark has only one, they're different amps, so the changes are also going to sound different.
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>>65927766
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>>65932088
That's totally true. I would think that it would make all the more difference too, since the tone is going to be reliant on this one tube rather than seven. I'll probably buy a couple and just find the one I like best.
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>>65927305
Kahler locking nuts suck, and you basically need to route out half the body to install the main unit. Floyd's are just easier.
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>>65932674
>Floyd's are just easier
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Is anyone else having an off day today?

I just spent about an hour playing through my AC30 and I sucked throughout the whole thing. Sometimes I feel like I suck extra bad when I'm playing through an amp - I can never find a sound that really satisfies me which exacerbates the problem.

Anyone else find that their playing sounds fine when unplugged or through a shitty POD or something, but total balls when it's through an amp?
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>>65932967
It's so humid I can't play because just grabbing the guitar makes me break sweat. Fuck that.
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>>65930621
looks cool
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I know that you usually shouldn't be playing a bass through a guitar amp, but is it the same the other way around? It probably wouldn't even sound good but I'm curious.
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>>65933503
Josh Homme used to do it.
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>>65933503
bass on guitar amp's only dangerous because you need more power for low notes, which means you're going to push more the amp and the speaker in its limits.
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>>65932847
>Adding a floating trem to a Les Paul

Doing it wrong.

On a body designed for a trem, like a Strat, a Floyd only needs to bridge posts as seen on this guitar >>65932052

The people who popularized Floyds didn't have god awful cavities carved out of the face of the body, that faggotry isn't something that got going until the late 80s when Ibanez released the JEM.
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>>65933530
That's cool, does that actually appear in an album or is that just something he did in his free time?
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>>65931193
have you thought of keeping the micro dark terror and only swapping out the tubes?

something like this would be good
https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/T-12AX7-GOLD-GEN
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>>65927292
>parker fly
my dude
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>>65930130
Gibson les paul - not even joking it's literally only for dad rock
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Hello guys, I'm willing to spend $500 on my 1st guitar with an amplifier.

The thing is that I don't really know which guitar + amp I need to buy.

Thirdly, I heard that the Yamaha Pacifica 112J and Ibanez GRG models are good.

Lastly, are Marshall and Microcube amplifiers good ?
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>>65933805
>it's literally only for dad rock

and blues, and jazz, and punk, and metal...
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>>65933838
>metal
shitty high fret access
>blues and jazz
much better guitars out there for both of those
>punk
power chords sound like power chords no matter what guitar you use
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>>65934038
Stoner, Sludge, Doom, Post Metal.
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>>65934038
>shitty high fret access

Doesn't stop a shitload of metal players from using them.

>much better guitars out there for both of those

For jazz sure but not for blues. And since when are we talking about what guitars are BEST for a genre?

>power chords sound like power chords no matter what guitar you use

And you can play them on a Les Paul.

So clearly a Les Paul is not just for Dad Rock, it's for pretty much everything short of country.
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>>65933816
You can buy a used roland cube amp, not micro, for less than a new microcube
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>>65930922
fuuck yeah bud
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>fenders with rosewood fretboards
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>>65934409

Looks great with Lake Placid Blue.
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>>65934467
no
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>>65934485

Yes
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>>65934532
no
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>>65934239
Cool, but are the Pacifica's and Ibanez guitars good ?
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>>65934577

Fag
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>>65934614
no
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>>65933816
>GRG models are good
for 6 months before they don't break down, maybe.
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>>65934647
How's it going to break down if you're going to take good care of it ?

Are the components/parts of a GRG that bad ?
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>>65928295
pointyfag/10
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>>65930438
Gibson basses should cease to exist. They're absolute rubbish.
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>>65932551
mah fukken nigga
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>>65933121
Dude if its that humid it CANNOT be good for your guitar. Get a humidity monitor and mitigate that shit before you do serious damage to your guitar.
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Alright /gg/,

I'm going to a music festival next week. There's going to be mud and druken/high strangers so I need a really cheap 3/4 travel guitar. Any recommendations?

Pic related looks nice but I really don't want to spend more than €75 since it's meant to be banged up.
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>>65934899
>you can't travel with a martin travel guitar
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>>65934937
Like I said: it looks nice, but it's almost half a grand.
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>>65934899
>I need a really cheap 3/4 travel guitar
Why.
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>>65934816

You're acting like a woman. Guitars have finishes to protect them from environmental changes like high humidity. At the most he'll have to tweak his truss rod.
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>>65934816
Well, it's not like I live at the beach where it would indeed fuck up my guitar, it's just that today it rained and it's pretty hot.
If this kind of weather were the norm, I'd indeed have AC with humidity regulation.
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>>65934739
Sweat on the saddle's going to corrode them (unless you wipe your guitar every second), the machine heads are ass (mine don't downtune anymore, they drop the string 1/4th of a tone ), the frets are really worn now (had it for two years) and also the jack output fell off on its own (stripped screw thread) and a there's a few minor electronic issues (the kind you have on every chink guitar though, these guys can't weld).
I probably had the worse of the whole batch, but that's my experience with mine. The action's also rather high and I can't set it up lower without a horde of bee coming up.

>>65934899
For a festival, you want something loud. My friend brings his cheap €100 violin and you can still hear him over the drunken ramblings. People don't give a shit if you play bad or sound bad though.
Or else you can buy a megaphone and stick the mic in the soundhole, I've seen a guy do this with his harmonica.
I'd say go for a Yamaha
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>>65934996
Because he's a Chad douchebag. He's going to sit around at the festival and play guitar because he's an attention whore.
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>>65934899
Look at the sigma tm12

It's basically Martins equivalent of squier

I got one second hand for £150
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>>65934577
>>65934532
>>65934467
Yes
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should I?
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>>65935236
>tele
>rosewood fretboard
even worse desu
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Hey guys, I don't usually come to these threads but I'd like a bit of advice on a purchase I'm looking at. I've been learning to play on a nice electro acoustic guitar I bought for around 6 months now and I've been having a blast and I'm considering getting an electric guitar also so I can play songs designed for them and get a different sound out of my playing.

I'm looking at pic related (an epiphone dot 335) and just wanted to know if its a good idea to move onto an electric guitar so soon or if this guitar is any good. And recommendations for a cheap but decent amp would also be appreciated.
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>>65935291
The time for maple is up.
Rosewood is beautiful on any guitar.

You'll probably grow out of it too, once you realize how irritating, ugly and easily wearable those glossy maple fretboard can be.
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>>65931299
Just stick with your rhythm section

Go fast when appropriate - You don't have to just blow through every scale you know to have an interesting solo

Don't be afraid to take ideas from parts of the song or from things that other players have done
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>>65935265
>$650
>For a Vintage Mod Squier

Rip off, modified or not.
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>>65935265

I would say so. Those are good mods you would have wanted to make anyway..
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>>65935345
no
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>>65935265
if you're spending that much just look for a fender
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>>65935265
No.
Cool mods but never take a price based on modifications, consider it based on the base guitar.
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>>65935531
>>65935498
>>65935419
what would you suggest then? there are really no good jazzmasters in my area and I really have been looking into getting one. if not this, my only option is to order online. there are like two good guitar stores in my location and none of them have any good jazzmasters.
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Should I get this? This GC in particular is two blocks away from where I live.
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>>65935743
whoops forgot link

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Boss/SD1-Super-Overdrive-Effect-Pedal-112125282.gc
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>>65935323
If you're used to an acoustic guitar, the Dot is a good starting point. Though know that something like a Stratocaster would be much easier to play and in my opinion is a better choice for a total beginner. Since you already play the acoustic though, the Dot should be good. Plus Josh Homme played one live for a while so that's cool
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>>65934608
Why does nobody want to answer this question ?
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>>65935345
bruh, maple gets you glassy biting highs


it's the real Fender sound mane
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>>65935323
get an electric NOW!! if you can get something in the 300-400 price range in dollars anyway. worthit.jpg
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>>65931343
can't find these in any music store I go to, could you post picture, how thick they are? and how tiny compared to Jazz III if you got em?
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>>65935825
They should be good. I've heard good things about both, assuming you don't mean Gio's. I personally have never played them though
That's why I didn't want to answer the question.
Either way you'll want to try the guitar yourself anyways. All guitars are different
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>>65935828
>Thinking fretboard has a significant impact on sound.

I'm a tonewood believer and even I think fretboard wood is insignificant. And even if it wasn't, just nudge the presence up on your amp.

This shit might have mattered back when these guitars were being designed and amplifiers were limited but there are so many tone shaping options available that it really means jack shit.
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>>65933956
>newb strummers
bait harder, a flexiable pick allows for more movement and has a different sound when strumming
even top level strummers who do fast work use soft picks
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>>65935932
I hope you realize, you got baited by the lowest quality bait.
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>>65932551
Bestest

>>65934532
Oh indeed. 60's Strats look dynomite in custom colours.

>>65935265
No, mod your own one. This guys asking far too much and you dont know what he's done to it. My Jag is a Squier that I hot rodded.
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>>65935932
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>>65936072
he has all the boxes for the parts he put in...
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>>65936108
He's still asking far too much for a Squier.
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>>65936108
I suppose it's not too bad considering hes put a mastery on it. I would go for it in that case, these guitars are fantastic and far better made than low end Mexican Fenders. If you meet the guy face to face try and get at least 20 bucks off the price or something though, just put the pressure on him.
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>>65936216
350$ to screw in a 50$ bridge.
That's 300$ for barely an hour of work.
The only thing that's going to get screwed is the buyer
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>>65935998
>a flexiable pick allows for more movement
ergo less control
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I am a disgrace.

>>65936352
Fai' 'nough, whatever makes the guy happy. I just love that range of Squiers.
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What are some nice songs with groovy, melodic bass playing? I listen to mostly rock and it can be a bit hard to find songs that are fun to play.
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>>65936388
>having that many guitars that more or less sound the same

I don't understand
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>>65936414
Mr. Bungle - Dead Goon
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>>65936364
tell Adam Jones and Matt Pike they have no control lol
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>>65936447
Nor do I, but it feels good man.
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>>65936500
How often does one of those guitars get played?

I have 3 (2 electric and one classical) and I feel like I have too many
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>>65936469
Not 'no' control. Just less.
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>>65936531
I generally rotate between them, using a Jag, Tele and Jazz bass at the moment, notmally play for 2 hours a day and I always have one at hand to noodle on.

Plus Im always equipped for Jams when my buddy comes over. I appreciate 60s instruments for how they look aswell, so they are always being enjoyed.
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>>65934532
would look ok if they painted the fucking headstock
jesus christ just paint the goddamn headstock
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>>65936544
Well it looks like enough control to play really fast then.
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>>65936803
>really fast
amateurs
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>>65936388
>matching headstocks
You are forgiven.
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Eyin' a Tokai ST100
Is ~600$ negociable a good price?
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>>65927766
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>>65936791
>>65937030
>painted headstocks
Is this bait?
Why would you put paint over the area where the strings end? That's just asking to suck out all the tone
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>>65937134
wew lad
Do you actually believe that
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>>65937134
lmao that cant suck tone!!
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>>65936352
>350$ to screw in a 50$ bridge.

Your math is all fucked up.

It's a $400 guitar with a $150 bridge, an $80 wiring harness, a $65 set of pickups and other upgrades. The ad isn't bullshitting, it's $350 in extra parts on a $400 guitar and it's only being sold for $250 over stock.

It's a good deal and passing it over just because it's a $650 Squier is dumb. Those modifications DO increase the value of the guitar.
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>>65937183
>>65937199
The paint makes the wood vibrate less
Since the string ends there, that's where it vibrates most so having paint there decreases sustain
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>>65937288
i love this meme so much
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>>65937251
It increases value for the owner
Generally speaking, modifying a guitar either lowers it's value or keeps it the same, even if they're made better
It's just how the market works
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>>65937251
oh yeah, gotta get that damn $150 bridge instead of using a bigger gauge and that $80 bunch of wires because I'm too much of a wimp to use a soldering iron
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Alright /mu/ it's been a few years but it's happened again. I'm usually fairly happy with my playing, but now I'm trying to challenge myself and feeling like I'm just running into walls with no progress to show for it.

What are some exercises/practice routines you guys do when you fall into a slump or feel like you're not making any headway?
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>>65937405
Do you know all notes, intervals, triads across neck, harmony? Can you play 1 lick and change rhythm going from 8th notes up to 32nd notes? If no, work on that
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>>65937405
Progress in what, technique? Theory? Your post doesn't tell me anything
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>>65937480
I know some basics of theory but I don't see how that's going to help out with my technique at all. I've never really understood the purpose of music theory because it feels like a fucking trap. It feels like you have to know all of it, or fucking don't care about any of it.

>>65937497
Technique.
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>>65937326
This. Unless the mods are ones that I want, I'll never ever buy a modded guitar. There's no way of knowing how well done they are until you take it apart and you aren't going to get to do that unless you buy it.
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>>65937326
>Generally speaking, modifying a guitar either lowers it's value or keeps it the same, even if they're made better

That's a generalization that doesn't apply to this scenario.

While it's true that modifying something like a Gibson Les Paul will ding the value (which is why things like the Vibramate exist), lower priced guitars like Squiers generally get a bump when they're upgraded like this because many of the people who buy them plan on making the same upgrades anyway. After all, this isn't a refinish or a shaved neck, it's new components that could be easily swapped back out - if the seller is smart enough to include the original parts with the guitar.

The bridge alone makes the guitar worth more than the retail price, albeit in the same way taping a piece of gold under the pickguard would. The guitar could easily be sold for more than $400 even if someone had no interest in playing it.

It's $350 of mods on a $400 guitar being sold at a $100 loss. That's a very fair deal.

>>65937371
> gotta get that damn $150 bridge instead of using a bigger gauge

Yes, if you want the trem to be stable without compromising in your playability.

>that $80 bunch of wires because I'm too much of a wimp to use a soldering iron

It's $80 just for the components. It's more if you buy a pre-assembled harness.
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convince me not to get the Orange TH30
i love that fizzy sound.

I was only really considering Mesa Boogies and Oranges, must be tube amp with FX loop
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>>65937533
Without basic theory you will not go anywhere period, you will just play licks like monkey see monkey do, Understand what you do, and it will open whole new world for you
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>>65936930
masturbating_on_the_guitar_core.jpg
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>>65937595
Yeah, because that's why a great majority of the best guitarists out there know their theory, right? Right?

Oh wait, no they fucking don't.

Keep regurgitating the same equations on your guitar thinking you're doing anything.
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>>65937595
Just because that's how it worked for you doesn't mean that's how it works for everyone. Sure theory helps but you're a faggot nigger cunt kill yourself stupid idiot retard piece of garbage trash moron


i know theory btw
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>>65933644
No no I'm looking for replacement tubes not a replacement amp lol
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>>65937696
what level of irony are we on in 2016?
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>>65937696
>>65937760

lmao you keks, keep repeating same licks over and over like monkey, not knowing how to play over chord changes.

>MUH BEST GUITARIST

I can bet my left nut your favorite guitarist knows basic theory in and out, you fucking wanker
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>>65937405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnoXbqadcjU&index=1&list=PLib7-bK_oeaTfGn9DCHtl7TK0p_H6ZKC3

watch this guy, seriously
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>>65937819
>locking yourself to play "notes i know that fit!" when you play over chords
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>>65937696
>Guthrie Govan
>Shawn Lane
>Al Di Meola
>John McLaughlin
>Paco de lucia
>Andres Segovia
Yeah all of these don't know theory sure.
Guitar's just like painting, sure you can do random shit and play it off as a "style" and being free, or you can learn the rules in order to deconstruct and create new stuff. Just look at Picasso, he knew his anatomy, and it's because he deconstructed it that he managed to propel forward cubism.
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>>65937819
>>65937799
>Man, that one note sounds really off over what I'm playing
>BUT IT'S A QUAD DIMINISHED TRIPLE FROMAGGIO ARPEGGIO YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND GET GUD SCRUB
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>>65937864
I said best guitarists. Not faggots.
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>>65937908
woh there you forgot your froosh picture
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>>65937845
theory is much more than "notes that fit" It's a tool that allows you to understand how to incorporate certain feelings into your music. If you want safe on key licks you know how to do that. If you'd like to play more mysterious sounding modes, you know how to do that. If you'd like to harmonize some riffs, you know how to do that, if you want to build tension you know the intervals and chords that do that.

Not the same anon, but I never thought i'd ever hear the day someone arguing against learning theory. Just because you're learning theory doesn't mean your robotic and trapped in a certain bound, quite the opposite really, it opens up doors beyond knowing certain patterns etc.
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>>65937845
Well why would you play wrong notes and sound like fucking idiot? Also you can spice your note choices with phrasing or chromatic passing tones

>>65937926

His favorite guitarist is prolly Jimi Hendrix or some other Joe off the street
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>>65937845
>>65937952
to add: learning music theory is all about understand intervalic relationships between notes.
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>>65937952
>Opens doors
Or you could just play whatever fucking sounds good and use your ears.
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>>65937995
im all up for learning theory to understand how things work
i was just pointing out its dumb that people like him limit themselves to what they know is safe and works when played in a certain way
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>>65938020
Here's the problem.
If you limit yourself to "sounds good", you're jumping straight to conclusion.
If you know theory, you actually direct where you're going. There's no "sound good", there's different ideas you can execute, whether they're sad, melancholic, joyful, puzzling, all these choices are right under your fingers, as opposed to "sound good" where you're just choosing the first, rather predictable choice.
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>>65937584
M8, it's a squier.
Any modification done on top of it will not add value because
1. the mod was done by someone who's not the manufacturer: aka no warranty
2. the mod pieces are under warranty? if so, that's cool on the piece, but if it breaks anything else it's not going to be covered, and let's say you don't care about warranty, a piece that's been used has also lost value, so it's not 350$ worth of mods, they have also lost value (simply by being installed/used).

Very rarely modifications add value, and they only do so if it's done by someone who you can claim warranty to.
It's like cars, no one buys a civic thinking "oh this guy already added a turbo, I should thank him for that and pay more". NOPE, it's a modification with no one to be held responsible but you if anything fails, it also changes the vanilla product in ways it wasn't intended to, so it's lost value, and again, the mods lose value because they have been used and abused, they are not in box, new.

So it's not 350 mods on a 400 guitar, it's mods done by someone who won't guarantee you anything on it, on a used guitar.
So let's say mod pieces purchased new are 350, multiply to your desired lost value, so like 66% if you will (I wouldn't even pay over 50% of the value of pieces already purchased and used), so like 230 + used guitar value which is the same if you will, 66% although I'd pay way less for a squier, at best 50%, but let's say you're nice to him so it's 0.66, then subtract value of being fucked in I'd say 20%, but you're nice so you won't take it against it's original value, so we won't count that... in the end it comes to 490~ when we're being super generous. Personally, even if modded, I wouldn't pay more than it cost new, nor close to it, but it's your money and dumb ass.
It's not a rare guitar, it's nothing special.
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>>65938020
Ok, keep doing that, 5-10 years down the line, when you will be stuck in same rut you will re-think your ways
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>>65938020
Definitely anon, however there will be times when you'd like to add some tension and you can't do it quite right. Knowing theory would allow you to understand how to achieve what you'd like to. You certainly don't have to learn theory, but it's foolish to argue that it doesn't open doors.
>>65938022
It's pretty dumb to just solo in the root, gets boring after a while. That's why you learn about modes etc.
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>>65938109
If I wanted some tension I'd punch your mother in the stomach while I'm fucking her.

>>65938087
Says the guy regurgitating the same scale back and forth over and over and never deviating because "M-muh theory!".

>>65938080
And you can do all of that by using your ear. What's your fucking point?
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>>65937995
This is 75% true but don't forget that rhythm is a major part of theory as well
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>>65938200
>And you can do all of that by using your ear.
If you've worked years, sure. But if you've spent a month on theory, you can do that, on every chord progression, and be sure of it.
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>>65938200
lets hear you play? And i'll post mine
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>>65938200
I'm gonna jump in and say that I'd say a mix of both is good.
It's totally fine to be "yourself" but theory can broaden your horizon, not shut it.
I'm not saying "play by the book", it's more that theory aren't rules, they are suggestions and you can use them or not.
Dunno why you get so defensive though, maybe you suck ass and are afraid of learning of your shortcomings.
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>>65938337
I already said that I knew a lot of the basic stuff. They're the shitheads that went on a tirade about "not being able to play without it".

I asked for technique advice and all I got was a bunch of anally retentive theoryfags.
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>>65938390
what basic stuff you know?
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>>65938316
>>65938200
do it
guitar battle
!!!!!
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How do I into cables with a large pedalboard? I've got 8 pedals, half of them large, and have been struggling with the fact that I may need a 4-5 ft. cable to snake underneath my Pedaltrain to resume a nice "right in left out" cabling with the pedals. I'm currently drowning in 6" and 1ft patch cables and the moment I hit the second row everything goes to shit. All of the sudden cables are "backwards" in that the earlier signal is the pedal on the left opposite the bottom row, stretching across the 9v jack and requiring creativity in making sure I can even fit the pedal on the board, never mind whether or not it's not upside down or turned funny.

Is the answer just getting a 5ft cable to restart the proper cabling order, right in left out? I didn't plan the board nor intend to get a board, if that didn't come across plainly enough, so I didn't realize what exactly I'd need to get it going nicely. It's a Pedaltrain Classic Pro.
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>>65938390
>guys I'm stuck and nothing's working what do I do
>try other stuff
>fuck off no i dont like other stuff i'm perfectly not stuck
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>>65931798
Got a link? I haven't been able to find those online
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>>65935236
This is disgusting.

Fenders should not have rosewood fretboards. Especially not a Tele
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>>65938517
your average guitarist
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Would anybody in the northwest know where i could get my hands on a gibson SG with a floyd rose trem?
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>>65938390
>I'm just running into walls with no progress to show for it.
literally what you wrote
then someone mentioned theory
then you went and said it meant nothing to you
even though clearly, clearly, theory will make you progress...

Theory isn't only a circle of fifths, theory isn't only I IV V, and even then, if only you knew that, there's an astonishing amount of shit you can do with only that.

Technique is application of theory.

A fast arpeggio run, a fast string skipping arpeggio, tapping, slides, hammer ons, pull offs, double handed tapping, legato, etc. They are all used as ways to put theory into real sound.

So instead of just learning say... an arpeggio shape, you could learn what is an arpeggio, how to apply it, how to modify it, how to extend it over the whole neck, play it freely up and down or in between, etc. and it's gonna be miles ahead of just simply learning how to do a technique.

Great players don't learn technique, they learn how to play music, and that means everything that helps them grow as musicians.
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>>65938561
muh hendrix
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>>65938594
Boy, I'm sure glad just reading things will vastly improve my practical, physical technique.

BRB reading a book on how to play Basketball so I can instantly become a pro player without a day's practice.
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guys im going to buy the Behringer UCA202 interface now that the inline from my PC has stopped working, i think i need to buy more things in order to make the interface work, what are those things?
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>>65938463
>>65938200
>>65938316
I agree , you going to post it anon? I'll postmine
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>>65929096
I did it, started to half as it around the end because I just wanted to get it down

wish i made something a little lighter
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>>65938640
now you're just grasping at straws, are we going to post our stuff or what?
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>>65938640
you shit, you apply what you've read to practice, for example, you learn intervals YOU GO AND APPLY them right away.

Oh look I am playing and E note, then I play G underneath that's minor 3rd, it has minor, sad quality oh shit
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>>65938536
Please kill yourself
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>>65938615
but hendrix knew his theory

>>65938640
Nigger, YES, guitar is not basketball.
Example:
Learn a scale over the whole fretboard, next step, you can play over it however the fuck you like.
or
Learn a trick, like an arpeggio shape, next step you can only play that shape because it's the only thing you know. Now what? what do you do with it? play it? that's ZERO compared to what you can do when you know how you can move freely across the guitar, you can arpeggiate your shit, improvise it freely.
It's not like physical technique is hard, like what is there to learn that's physically hard?
Physical ability comes from practicing, but it won't give you anything in return if you don't know what to do with it in the end.

So learning theory WILL improve your physical technique because it's a way of applying it.

To use your basketball example, right now you don't even know the rules on how to play, what do expect to do? learn how to throw from afar? why not instead learn what you can do and then apply it on court?
Music theory isn't analog on a book on basketball theory (like what? are you a retard), it's learning what you can do on the court and then go to play every day while keeping in mind the rules of the game.
If you don't know 3 steps, how are you gonna use them to your advantage in a game?
If you don't know the points depending on the area, how are you gonna use them to your advantage?

Theory and technique come together, they are not opposites nor do you suspend one when learning the other.

Learn AND practice.
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>>65938814
I street ball on the guitar
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What are some ways you guys balance college and guitar practice? Have you had periods where you've felt burnt out fro school/work/etc. and didn't have the drive to practice?
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>>65938200
Why isn't this guy responding or posting his stuff?
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>>65938906
Anon, every musician goes through burn-out phase, I went 1 year without practicing (thanks depression) any licks, scales w/e just pick up for 1 min doodle and that's it. Funny enough I was way better when I picked it back up I could play more cleanly, faster, etc. Don't force it
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>>65938947
10 bucks it's the guitar transexual
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>>65927292
>everyone in this thread
>not playing parker guitars
Fucking n00bs
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>>65938906
I've never thought of it like that.
I just always have a guitar next to me, and I naturally end up practicing during time I find in the day.
There are days I don't play, but it doesn't bother me.
Longest period was 6 or 8 months after an injury, but I didn't lose anything (but I didn't learn or improve).
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>>65938947
No one wants you to push your faggy ass indie rock mixtape.
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>>65939014
you don't even own a parker any more
yours got stolen, remember?
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