Radiohead streaming event in Istanbul attacked
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PChZEdekxiE
A bunch of guys came into the record store where the Radiohead event was taking place and started beating people up, throwing chairs and shit because people at the store were drinking during Ramadan. All this while it was being live streamed on Periscope.
i know AMSP is bad but that's a bit too far
>>65740330
>be muslim
>all this shit happens
>literally no way to defend this
>can't say anything to people except for "my belief does not tell me to do these things these people do"
>literally hope I get killed by some daesh fucker one of these days so I don't have to be around to witness this dumbfuckery anymore
Sharia police, arrest this man...
>>65740477
I laughed much too hard at this
thx anon
Pretty dumb desu. Mudslimes really have nothing better to do than police random people z z z
>>65740477
HOLY SHIT
islam was just a cover, the real motivating force was radiohead being shit
Leaked photo of the suspect
You can tell this isn't in america because no one gets shot.
>>65740572
new meme
>>65740463
> be atheist
> be in a muslim country (turkey, coincidentally)
> literally no one takes me seriously when I tell 'em how fucked up Islam is because they're "liberal"
> 4chan is the only place to go but they hate you anyway because racism
> no money to deport my own ass to somewhere else
> feelsbadman.jpg
>>65740572
imagine if instead of weird fishes playing it was Knives Out
>>65740330
any article in english ?
>>65740572
is this Radical Larry?
>>65740664
http://www.spin.com/2016/06/radiohead-moon-shaped-pool-velvet-firuzaga-indieground-records-istanbul-attack-video-watch/
this is from the other thread
>>65740585
Gun violence still kills five people a day in Turkey. Radiohead is five members so therefore they almost died.
>>65740623
fucking kek
You just pissed off Radiohead fans. It's all over now Islamadorks. You dun goofed. This is the final straw. Night is coming.
one of the people attacked
>>65740622
there were 2 types of people in 1965: conservative, hard-working, church-going people, and liberal, free-loving, idealist unionists.
all those people, including the hippies, had kids. you literally cannot convince liberals these days that there are bad people unless they are Republicans in America or the equivalent abroad.
>>65740330
>muzzies
wow who would have thought
>yfw Radiohead starts making anti-muslim Johnny Rebel type music
>>65740463
>"my belief does not tell me to do these things these people do"
it literally does you heretic
>>65740751
why the fuck is he smiling
>>65740857
cause it's probably just a cut that looks worse than it actually is. doubt he's in pain or anything.
>>65740740
>How long until we have an Arab Enlightenment?
when islam is totally and completely eradicated you can see about "Arab Enlightenment"
>>65740857
He's a radiohead fan, he likes pain, that's the only way somebody could stand the music
>>65740883
I feel like with that much blood I'd be freaking out even if it didn't hurt or if the wound didn't seem that bad.
>>65740857
Probably because of how fucking dumb the whole situation was and how he's glad he isn't dead
>>65740696
>Gun violence
You mean islam, Obama?
>>65740857
He doesn't even remember what happened. He's an amnesiac.
>>65740823
>you will never hear Thom sing "i do hate niggers"
>>65740968
>>65740940
>>65740806
daily reminder that most people who suffer the violence of extremist muslims are muslims themselves
>>65740330
This is just about as moderate as Islam gets
>>65740968
>talk about islam
>niggers
you just couldn't tone down your edge, could you?
So during Ramadan nobody can break the rules, even if you aren't a practicing Muslim?
>>65741015
>le moderate mudslime meme
obvious b8
>>65741052
He was talking about johnny rebel, what did you expect was gonna be said?
>>65741015
the people that suffer the most at the hands of islam are people who live in islam majority places: it is violent cancer
>>65741054
killing, raping, torturing kafir is not forbidden in islam, so why would they treat kafir with respect?
>>65741054
You know the rules and so do I
>Then man are coming in there with bottles and that dashing chairs about you're gonna fuck up the 'ting u get me. It's like wait til u get outside yeah like even furthermore meet man on another day init, this is a party mans tryna make p's yeah mans tryna get a little, dance a little while with a girl and that and you're all fighting throwin chairs 'nd that it's not really the one you get me? But obviously thats cool innit you get me thats cool now. Same.
I sincerely hate kebabs.
>>65740904
LMAO
>>65740769
but everyone knows americans are bad "people"
>>65740572
HE'S FAST
>>65741149
because the marxists won
video of the attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-re0HMkldY
the message they want us to learn is that all pop music is HARAM and for KAFFIRS just like in paris at the bataclan
>>65740330
this is so fucked up, people who do such thinks are fucking mental
>>65741170
marxism didn't exist when the american scourge decided to claim independence, silly anon
For once the muslims did good
Radiohead is SHITE get fucked plebs
>>65741209
everyone thinks americans are bad now because the marxists won, what does the 18th century have to do with it?
>>65741186
music made with musical instruments is always haram
>>65741187
yeah, radiohead should have split years ago
>>65741035
Can confirm this is actually a minor incident in Turkey & Turkey is considered to be the most secular, moderate country with a Muslim majority.
Now what the fuck did Rabioheab forget in Istanbul, is it the new musical capital of the word or something
Now Turkey's flag is a moon alright
>>65741237
t. doesn't even know what marxism means
>>65741237
they were degenerate trash back then already.
>>65741264
cuck off
>>65741264
t. useful idiot
>>65741279
so the (((marxists))) would have you believe
I hope righteousness never dies.
>>65741261
a moon shaped flag?
>>65741237
literally what the fuck are you talking about? please just stop. this thread doesn't need to become an off topic political ideology pissing contest between people who have no idea what they're talking about.
>>65741320
>this thread doesn't need to become an off topic political ideology pissing contest
it was that from post one you retard.
>>65741300
epic meme. slavs and chinks are just as bad as amerimutts
>>65741294
>>65741300
>This triggers the /pol/tards
thanks for proving my point senpaitachi
>>65740477
BRUH LMAOOOO
>>65741342
no, it's a thread about an event that happened. if you want to bitch about "marxists" or whatever you think marxists are, go to /pol/
The non-abolishment of religion is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity.
>>65741349
>he thinks he had a point
>>65741377
Humanity without religion has never existed, and will likely never exist.
>>65740510
>>65740513
>>65740623
>>65740572
>>65740751
>>65740916
>>65741079
>>65741105
>>65741127
>>65741300
>>65741349
>>65741342
>>65741237
>>65741377
>>65741407
2 by 2 times 4
get on the floor
piss on the poor
how much change you lookin' for?
>People think they know for certain the one way Islam should be practiced because they read the source material
>Americans literally can't discuss any topic without coming at it from a Protestant perspective
Wew
>>65741407
The level of influence that religion has on day to day life could certainly be toned way the fuck down, especially in Muslim countries. Those fucks are so perverted by Islam that they can't even conceptualize a democracy.
>>65740696
nice logic
religion makes everything worse
>>65741177
somebody explain this shit to me
why are they always filming him
>>65741503
Except paganism
>>65741503
only abrahamic religion
>>65741538
the original video is much longer. it was a periscope stream of the event that captured the attack by accident.
>>65741579
no i mean the turkish midget meme
why is he being filmed? asshole friends? reality tv?
>>65740330
Filthy fucking Muslim parasites.
We need to drop a fucking nuke.
>>65741546
Ahh yess so this is the pure Aryan art Ive heard of
Do you have perhaps any white Scandinavian looking women wearing their traditional garm in wheat fields by any chance? I need a good fap my good kind gentle sir!
>>65741639
Radiohead had it coming
If only they acted sooner
>>65741636
oh, i see. asshole friends, probably. definitely not reality tv, the video is amateur by all means.
BAN ASSAULT WINE BOTTLES
we need to execute any and all muslims publicly
we must roast these savages alive
>>65741706
top kek
they sent him to a kids school to give them stuff
fucking asshole friends
>>65741783
but anon-kun thats genocide and thats bad
religion is retarded
>>65740572
rip
>>65740330
migrants do nothing wrong
t. radiocuck
>>65741783
hello, daesh
to best honest, this is kind of the record stores fault. They knew where they were located and that Ramadan was happening, so them doing it would obviously cause hostility.
>>65741797
hahahaha i didn't know that. do you have sauce ?
look at their faces, clearly organized by his "friends"
all these trigert radiohead fans lel
>>65741873
well i don't know about that my local record store found out they were having a stream after everyone on the internet did. they didn't choose it, if anything it sounds like from what they said that XL records were the ones who chose the list of all the record stores around the world to host it
>>65741912
I guess he's a legend in his country now.
https://www.instagram.com/koksalbaba1461/
https://www.instagram.com/koksalbaba/
>>65741237
>still using the marxist boogeyman
>1989+27
The cold was is over, commies are not the ennemy anymore Johnny, and you're not the "good guy", get over it.
>>65740572
I can sense this becoming a new meme
>>65741933
then this is XL Records fault then. They should apologize for the terrible booking/scheduling.
>>65741918
everyone knows the new radiohead is shit, mate
>>65741177
Radical Larry really lost it, didn't he?
>>65741989
maybe the religious fundamentalists should be the ones who should be held accountable for inciting violence, maybe that would be a novel idea.
>>65741859
>inb4 "fight fire with fire"/get on their level rebuttal
also, pun possibly intended
>>65741015
and the fags, christians and women who they terrorise
If I made a strawpoll do you think we could get enough feedback to vote these islamic mudslimes out of the human race?
>>65741989
Turkey is a secular country, they should be able to stream the album and have the party whenever the fuck they want.
>>65742069
Shia Muslims are the biggest victims though. Their entire history is getting capped by "extremist Muslims."
In before Radiohead apologizes to the attackers for allowing drinking.
>>65740330
Clearly this was orchestrated by white conservative Christians. Islam is a religion of peace!
>>65740623
Optimistic would be good
Big fish eat the little ones
Try the best you can
>>65740737
God knows we're all big and strong
And to think Turkey was once "the stable country in the middle-east"
also
>inb4 Erdogan blames the kurds
>>65742154
>Muslims
>victims of anybody
Any hurt any Muslim has ever felt was deserved
How long until Radiohead make an album about the evils of Islam?
>>65742249
>inb4 Erdogan blames provocateur agents of Western countries
FTFY
>>65742159
Wouldn't doubt it. Thom is probably sweating trying to figure out which side to play.
Fans of his music that get harmed for enying it, or the neanderthals that we aren't allowed to be afraid of.
Unfortunately, mr world peace will probably choose the latter.
>>65742154
and fags entire history is being executed, and womens entire history is being opressed.
>>65742260
I'd say the Rohyingas really did nothing wrong but at this point it's the exception that confirms the rule.
>>65741873
That's retarded. Do you you blame the Orlando club because someone decided that gays shouldn't be gay during Ramadan and kill them all?
>>65742260
Ali LITERALLY did nothing wrong.
>>65742249
>any Middle Eastern country ever being stable
These tribalist fuckheads don't understand the concept of a nation-state. They're simply too stupid to not kill one another constantly
>>65741873
yeah, lets just deflect the blame anywhere we can possibly conceive to avoid facing the fact that islam is fucking insane and this happened because of islam.
fuck you /mu/, you really are imgur-tier now.
/mu/ - leredpill
>>65742351
It was Islam's fault. The key thing is, rational people can't control Islam, but they can control when they stream an album.
>>65740330
yeah but they're shit
>>65742344
>don't understand the concept of a nation-state
More like we packed them in countries with random border becaue we had no clue what the local nations actually were and we didn't care.
It's not that big a surprise that the few countries in north Africa and middle-east that are not complete shitholes are former protectorates that had historically established borders (see Morroco and Jordan and that's all because everything else is a time-bomb)
>>65742379
literally victimblaming
>>65740572
NANI?!
>>65741569
Christianity is fine. The other two suck.
>>65742379
They weren't doing anything wrong streaming an album at a record store. They didn't know crazy mudslimes would throw a fit just because they were having a fucking beer.
>>65742444
>christianity is fine
>>65742379
"it was the rapists fault. the key thing is, rational people cant control rapists, but they can control what clothes they wear"
>>65742461
You're using that meme incorrectly, newfriend.
>>65742444
lol no. the only tolerable form of christianity is the one that sold its core principles in order to pander to whichever way the wind blows at the time. which isn't really christianity at all.
inb4 this thread gets deleted because /mu/ is the most pc board with white knight janitors.
>>65741015
>Kills and terrorizes everything around it
>Surprisingly in 99% Muslim countries most of the things around them are Muslim
And the majority of people to die from a hurricane live in a hurricane zone.
>>65740572
he's a big guy
>>65740769
Did you actually type all of that out? That's pretty autistic.
>>65742614
yeah it's unfortunate the shias always get massacred
>>65742642
did he died?
So were Radiohead actually there or was it just a streaming party?
>>65742655
They were here.
Thom Yorke actually threw the first bottle while screaming Allah Akhbar.
Some sources report that he has been seen crossing the border to Syria.
>>65742655
just Turkish hipsters drinking beer
i thought this board knew how much Radiohead hates their fanbase
I've heard on r/theredpill that 4chan is supposed to THE enlightened truth zone on the internet, so what the hell am I looking at? fuck this shit, I'm going back on reddit
tfw you're a muslim who used to cover Radiohead songs at gigs. #NotAllRadioheadFans
fuck off radiohead
>>65742819
why are you still even a muslim?
>>65742848
Meh, I'm agnostic these days. But I still look "muslim" to angry rednecks on the street, so it doesn't matter anyways.
>>65742873
no offense or anything, i would just have so many doubts after all these news if i were to have grown up muslim.
remember, muslim is an ideology, not a race.
>>65742873
>Brown
>Not a Mexican
Sounds like a Muslim to me 2bh
>>65740477
kek
>>65740463
Arent you supposed to memorize this shit?
I do not believe in islam therefore you either have to make me believe or kill me
this is l muslim 101 get your game on
>>65740622
sikerim lan seni beğenmiyosan git
... desem çok üzülürdün değil mi burada da bu kıroluk diye, üzülme üzülme üzülme, ben senin yanındayım, seni öpüyorum, dudaklarından, sevgilim...
>>65740622
at least you could survive a nuclear war
>>65742979
ching chong chinaman
>>65740330
i love how that guy grabs his records before getting the fuck out of there. i honestly would have the same priorities
>>65742979
ahahahaha, aşkım <3
>>65742987
still waiting on those nukes that doesn't effect sane people
>>65743084
keşke hatun olsan, mu'dan tanışıp evlenip 3 çocuğumuz olsa ve hepsine kaliteli müzik dinletsek, kafam da bayağı iyi, aklıma geldi yazdım ama bence erkeksin, tabii ki erkeksin
>>65743264
aynı şeyi ben de düşündüm amk, tabi ki erkeğim lanet olsun
>>65740572
good evening, Don Roach
>>65742405
Exactly, Muslims were too stupid to form nation-states independently and had to have an intellectually superior power do it for them.
>>65740477
>Sharia police, arrest this man
>he talks haram, he drinks on Ramadan
>he's like a filthy kaffir
>Sharia police, arrest this girl
>her visible hairdo is making me feel ill
>and we have crashed her head clean in
>This
>is
>what
>you
>get
>when
>you
>mess
>with
>us
>>65743309
vay amk yaa
kardeşim seni çok iyi anlıyorum, senin yarrana kurban olayım üzme kendini, yarın içmeye gel
>>65741052
spot the nigger
>>65743386
i can't breathe
>>65740463
Your religion sucks tbqh.
>>65740463
kys my man
>>65743504
tophane'deki geyiği mi diyorsun ? gidicem belki, bakalım.
iki gün önce kanada'dan söylediğim üstünde arapça allah yok yazan t-shirtüm geldi, zamanlamaya bak amk, belki de gitmeliyim
KILL MORE MUDSLIMES
Who'da thunk this type of thing could ever happen when the religion is so peaceful?
I can't tell if people are saltier that Islam is popular or that Radiohead is popular.
>>65740572
when the beheading is at 9:00 and it's already 9:03
This is a worthless story. OP made it sound like this was terrorist attack happening at a Radiohead concert or something. When it's just a record store playing radiohead while some faggots yell in the background and pushes shit.
>>65744154
lol i trol u
>>65744096
makes you think, do you think beatles fans got beaten with lead pipes when lennon had the whole 'we're bigger than jesus' scandal?
>>65740463
I know this feel
Not muslim but it's an incredible bummer when the entire world generalizes you off of the worst members of your group. It's like people just learn to shut their empathy off with age.
I have a bad feeling someone will misconstrue my post as sympathizing with radicals but whatever
>>65744154
still though got beat up and bashed in just cause a record store was having a listening party during ramadan
https://twitter.com/emancipatedcity/status/743916238896791552
RELIGION OF PEACE
PEACE
E
A
C
E
>>65740330
I guess i was wrong for beleving that Turks was some civilized people
>>65744285
Never said I liked both of them.
FUCK TURKEY
lmao those guys weren't even tough, i never realized radiohead fans were so beta
does anybody have the full stream
someone please explain to me how a trio of dadbods can rough up an entire store full of people
>>65745003
>radiohead fans
>people
>>65740330
It has less to do with their islamic beliefs and more to do with the fact that those faggots were blasting shitty music in the streets.
There is radicals in every religion, not just Islam.
>>65745131
there are radicals in every facet of life. even buddhist and communist atheists go apeshit
>>65745075
Wow how original. I've never heard that one before. Really funny!
(These might be handy some day: /r/circlejerk, /r/autism)
>>65745131
A disproportionate amount are dune coons
>>65745075
good point
Never thought id be praying for a suicide bomber
>>65742675
top kek
>>65741247
underrated post
>>65745465
lol trigert
>>65741264
>not knowing the history of the last 50 years of south-american and african countries
t. Americano viado
>>65741981
>doesnt even Gramsci
What a fucking plebeian-riddled board /mu/ has become.
>>65741463
You don't throw "religion" into a big mixture like that. Different religions have different values. A little bit more of Christianism could never go bad.
Thanks for making me feel better, thread.
>>65745003
i know, man. no one fought back. that guy was slapping ppl. slapping. sheesh.
>>65742379
You're just giving more power to Islam as long as you accept its rules willingfully. You're saying it can do whatever it wants.
>>65742461
Wew, it seems like you're new here. Lurk more and post again in a few months.
>>65742461
what does this mean?
>>65740477
>>65743386
top fuckin kek
>>65745131
Yeah, but there's no majority of radicals in any of them.
>>65740572
>VERY fast turkroach running at incredible hihg speeds
>>65742444
i suggest you educate yourself prior to forming your beliefs. if you think exaggerated "terrorist" groups and jewish slander against muslims is any indication, you're being lied to.
i'm an american german who lived in afghanistan, israel, indonesia and pakistan. none of this is true about muslims or the middle east. rape has never been encouraged in any muslim country at all---ever. in fact, it's quite the opposite. many islamic countries often abuse and terrorize those who rape others. so the rapefugee slander you see on the news is most likely all planned or made as propaganda against muslims. muslims have pretty much no real history of violence, aside from maybe timur. slavery in islam is not slavery; slavery in islam is pretty much only limited to POW that would otherwise be killed, left for dead, tortured, etc. islam does not condone violence once in the quran; every single "quote" is entirely falsified or taken out of context (most of them are usually just instruction on what to do if attacked, others just completely made up). the jews have been picking fights with muslims almost literally from the inception of israel in the 20th century. the muslims accepted the jews into palestine during the holocaust, and were immediately killed, jailed indefinitely, and forced out of their country by the same people they took in.
also, as someone who has lived in israel, i can tell you that there is entirely an anti-muslim agenda. they don't even hide it. in some instances, it is taught in schools and children to hate muslims. this never made any news because no one really cares about the muslims, but, at some point, a school girl was killed in bomb raids against palestinians and the muslims retaliated by throwing rocks. the "rebels" were gunned down by the israeli militia. no talk of this was ever made. the bombings of kuwait, the countless wars. i'm not sure what the semites have against muslims, but it's palpable and tangible. some things i learned abroad.
>>65745131
yer talking outta yer arse m8
F
>>65746467
Nice claim.
>inb4 he posts that false graphic where out of 1 billion muslims 80% of them support terrorism or some shit despite those statistics being literally made up and having no basis
>>65746720
don't read this anti-semitic propaganda, goyim
>>65746793
this is probably meme, but i'll bite. i mean, you don't have to take my word for it. go to the wikipedia of all the wars israel has been involved in since the 70 year old country was formed. go to the wiki on empires, and see the difference in killings between most empires and the islamic empire. go to the videos of afghan men beating up a serial rapist who would mutilate female genitalia.
as one of the few people who is truly aspiring towards bettering the future and not just bullying those who have no voice, the most i can do is hope that maybe someone learns the truth that i discovered first hand while being abroad. you know, memes are cool and i dont mind shitting on anybody. the thing is that people actually believe what they're told, memes aside.
>>65746720
>i'm an american german who lived in afghanistan, israel, indonesia and pakistan.
When did you leave Turkey, Ahmed?
>>65747019
>turkey
im not a fucking degenerate. if youre not from tajikistan, youre haram, brother.
NEW TRACKLISTING:
Everything, According to The Hadith
Kid Allah
The National Ashura
How to Disappear Completely (in the Pakistani mountains)
Treefalafel
Optimecca
In Loincloth
Muhammad Bell
Motion Picture Bombtrack
>>65746774
I've never seen that much denial in my whole life.
>>65740477
>>65743386
thanks
>>65742465
This. The whole, "you asked for it" argument is not justifiable reasoning.
>>65746956
I'm a muslim living in Pakistan and you're an idiot if you believe most Muslims in Muslim countries are peaceful, or even believe in equality with regards to sexes, sexualities, religions, etc.
>yeah man islam is fine like it's cool we swear
>>65747110
Subterranean Mass-Grave Infidel
Suicide Vest Falling Into Place
>>65740477
post of the year
>>65747207
most people I know in Islamabad ARE like that though, where do you live?
>>65740904
>le
>>65747377
Multan
>>65747110
>in the pakistani mountains
>>65747437
Eh Multan is an old-fashioned place, people in Pakistan are really different depending on where you go
Most people in Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore would do fine in the West
>>65747207
i dont deny that, but i want to stress that this is caused by a history of global abuse, lack of education, lack of government, lack of consequence, and just general poverty, not a religion that dictates that followers do the exact opposite of theyre doing.
these countries are wartorn and need education and structure. people walk into mosques and gun down people without consequence. these countries werent like this prior to being shit on by every super power in the world.
>>65740477
ohh fuck you made my night
islam is my favorite genre
dance or die
>>65747534
not to mention most Muslims in Indonesia, urban Iran, India, the list goes on
Radiohabib when???
>>65742679
They don't hate their fanbase at all. They literally give soundboard recordings to people making multi can edits of their shows, and at a recent festival they gave fans wifi codes so they could stream it on periscope because tons of fans had been doing that at previous shows. The only fans Radiohead have a problem with are the annoying ones who only want Creep or Just.
>>65741641
underrated post.
>>65747717
what does the religion dictate?
>>65740463
>>be muslim
well there's your first mistake
>>65743386
someone vocaroo this shit for gods sake. i can't sing but i'll lay a guitar track
>>65743386
First time I've ever audibly laughed at something on this site holy shit
More sharia-friendly Radiohead lyrics pls.
edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger
>>65740477
I don't get it
>>65747717
i.e., muslim countries are shit because they're muslim
i know some "muslims" but they drink and even send there kids to christian schools. when i asked why christian, they indicated because the muslim ones teach them some weird shit
>>65742159
>>65742310
fuck, i really hope thom's reasonable about this
>>65748325
why don't you get off his case?
>>65743386
top laugh
>>65740477
top kek
holy shit /mu/ is a subreddit
>>65748391
le top XD to your post
>>65747110
Missing Ayatollah at #8
>>65748391
upvoted
>>65748477
kek
>>65741873
Absolutely, it surely has nothing to do with the ideology of a religion that hasn't advanced since Mohammad fucked a goat.
>>65740330
Sweet another field recording for the collection
>muh religion of peace
Libcucks will defend this
Two bombs in a week
I bet you think that's pretty jihad, don't you boy?
Flying on your sunni-cycle,
Watching all the ground beneath you drop
Kill yourself for allah's glory
Kill yourself to never ever stop
You broke another ħudūd
You're turning into something you are not
Drying up in the saharan desert
You will be the one who cannot talk
All your insides fall to pieces
You just sit there wishing I didn't set this mine off
>>65740463
>daesh
Back to Plebbit and take your shit green text with you
>>65748292
yeah what happened to this board
>mfw western capitalist imperialism turned a developing region into a violent sectarian hellhole
>mfw bourgeois liberal democracy is reaping what it sowed
>mfw the Kurds wipe ISIS off the face of the earth and establish a socialist republic
>>65748914
>developing region
>>65748914
why are so many tripfags /leftypol/
>>65748914
>capitalism is bad
I can't decide if this or climate change is the biggest lie of the 20th century.
>>65749142
so the data is incorrect then? no warming trends deduced from data?
>>65749221
The effect from humans is at the least extremely exaggerated to push the co2 tax agenda. The Earth has been warming since the last ice age, especially in the last 25 years due to a strong sun cycle, which has now reversed and we will likely see some cooling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0
>>65749142
>>65749319
THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING
>>65749319
I meant to say we saw extreme heat events (melting in the north pole, followed by an extreme comeback in ice) in the last 25 years from the Sun (which should be the obvious factor in global climate, some """scientists"""(govt paid) say it has no effect) but from the data there has been no measurable change in global average temps.
>>65740857
Because he gets to leave shitty Turkroach country
>>65740463
GET OUT
MUSIC IS HARAM
>>65749391
the thing is, are we saying all these scientists in favor of climate change then have a "stake" in it or were they all equally naive?
basically were they all fooled, and if so, how...what was the glaring error in all their logic, or they all low-key were in on the "conspiracy" of the thing?
>>65748319
no. muslim countries are shit because their culture is shit. and their culture is shit because their culture is literally being constantly engaged in war, being attacked and used by superpowers, having no education, having no rights, having no government to stop militia groups from just slaughtering civilians, being forced to conform to "extremist" belief due to guns, etc. realistically, there is no global muslim security threat. they have no power. the us alone has enough military power to decimate any country in the middle east, much less a fraction minority.
whatever problems are present in the middle east are entirely social, and it doesnt ill-behoove you to understand why social problems exist after looking at their history. find me one stable country in the middle east that isnt either dictated by oppressive government or oppressive militia. there really isnt any. afghanistan, pakistan, iraq, saudi arabia, etc. even india has a horribly corrupt government.
it's a tragedy how no one cares about genuinely fixing a very simple problem in the world that is as simple as taking down a militia that isnt even 1/10000th size of your military. instead, they trick people like you into thinking that a religion that has nothing to do with 95% of the problems present is responsible for global problems and the world should just bomb an entire mass of people that have only been shit on by the entire world. i plead that you help change the world for the better.
>>65744299
I know what you mean, just like no one should think all brexiters are white supremacist murders
Can't wait till all religion dies out desu
But for the moment all religious extremists seem to be Muslims so I think we should address Islam first.
>>65749615
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/11/20/the-97-consensus-myth-busted-by-a-real-survey/
>>65749681
We're trying but a lot of avid atheists are just doing it to piss off their parents (i.e. Christians and Jews) so saying they're atheists while sympathizing with Muslims is too much of a double whammy of edginess for teenagers to resist
>>65749644
This so fucking hard
>>65749681
>But for the moment all religious extremists seem to be Muslims so I think we should address Islam first.
islam was secularized and becoming like christianity until the united states funded extremist muslims to oppose the ussr funding communists. I think the west should stop fucking with things for once actually.
>>65749681
>>65749737
Ahh I remember when I was young and edgy... really brings me back
The problem is most people are so dumb and primitive they need a good dose of brainwashing just to act morally, and without morals civilization will fail.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_Christianity_on_western_civilization
>>65741873
Kill yourself.
>>65749644
This man speaks the truth.
>>65740330
Well done Turks! Turks obviously know what's pleb-tier garbage.
>>65741873
This , to be honest.
>>65740330
No regard for human lives and the pain and suffering they feel. Makes me sick. Makes me sad.
thom york deserved it for the abomination that is pablo honey and his entire musical career
>>65749644
>find me one stable country in the middle east that isnt either dictated by oppressive government or oppressive militia
>it's a tragedy how no one cares about genuinely fixing a very simple problem in the world that is as simple as taking down a militia that isnt even 1/10000th size of your military
that was quite a quick jump from blaming oppressive governments, to then saying the solution is in taking down a militia.
basicallly, I'm saying that you're dealing with entire structures of authority and government, its not as simple as "taking out" the bad guys and magically replacing it with the good, kindly rulers
>>65740751
im sorry but that's it. REMOVE KEBAB FROM THE PREMISES. there is no excuse anymore. the western world needs to change their islam tolerance policies really fucking fast
>>65741873
These types of events aren't what you would call advertised. These people went out of their way to beat up people just because they were drinking during Ramadan (not even counting listening to music since it isn't haram).
>>65749751
>calls someone edgy and then proceeds to say that most people are "dumb" and "primitive" and need to be brainwashed
How is it possible to be THIS self unaware?
>>65749751
>linking to the simple english Wikipedia
I've never seen such raw passive aggression
>>65749910
Definitely doing this now
>>65749644
>after looking at their history. find me one stable country in the middle east that isnt either dictated by oppressive government or oppressive militia.
you do know there was 20th century monarchs in europe that wielded a lot of power right? not being "oppressive" is relatively new so it's understandable that a country doesn't have a history of it especially when you're full of oil and at the whim of superpowers. mamluk egypt was literally led by slaves, the ottoman empire was progressive for their time.
culture has less of an effect than even geography. you act as if europe wasn't always engaged in wars, and hasn't been at war with the middle east even. as if christians were headcases until recently. any religion could have taken the christian route. the difference is that they don't have the population or the resources the stop countries from influencing them so now we have proxy wars and installed dictators so big countries with resources get their oil shipments for less.
>>65749743
Iran is already pretty secularized but is still violating safeguards (various trade agreements/peace treaties) with other nations and their economy is still rather shit because of their corrupt and inept government.
I guess you can say that the West had a hand in this (they definitely did; especially US/Iran relations in the 70s and their recent trade embargo) but their corruption is not all the West's fault. They fucked up a lot on their own too.
>>65749950
Do you people like have a 6th sense to know when other people are taking about islam elsewhere on this site? Where you coming from? Also why bother arguing with people you agree with in everything but motive? Autism?
>>65749991
I'm sorry did I disturb your safe space?
>>65749644
amen anon
I'm mexican, but I've met several muslims when I was working for Intel. Mostly from Pakistan.
They are very polite people, a tad quiet.
I can't believe that people are truly trying to blame everything on religion, just by knowing a little bit of history you can see why the whole middle east is a mess. Like you said, it's both cultural and political.
My country has had a higher death toll in past years than all of the counties at wall in the middle east combined, and it's not because of religion.
Some story: corruption, poverty and ignorance that drives people into the so called "drug-war".
It wasn't like this 10 years ago. It's amazing how fast things can go to shit.
>>65750069
No at least your mascot isn't as annoying as that one /v/ made
>>65749983
>we have proxy wars and installed dictators so big countries with resources get their oil shipments for less.
would you mind explaining how one leads to the other?
>>65749983
exactly. islamic cultures have consistently been progressive and way among their times, even by todays standards. POW's are turned into "slaves" rather than tortured and killed. furthermore, the literature of islam says that slaves are no less than any other person and are to be treated with respect. there is literature of mohammed making his "slaves" eat with him as equals, eating the same food.
i'm saying these radical "extremist" problems in the middle east have never existed before. these problems have entirely surfaced recently pretty much directly after the destruction of the entire area during the Soviet/US conflict, in which many countries were wartorn for the gain of superpowers.
you may have misinterpreted my claim with the abrasive language. i fully agree with what you're saying, but i can't deny that the middle eastern countries have bad social habits. for instance, in afghanistan, they have a nasty habit where they bully the mentally disabled. this goes against the central dogma of islam altogether.
personally, i believe the religion of islam is one of the most consistent and logical belief systems there are, even above buddhism. it condones science fully, the equality of gender, logical retaliation in war, etiquette, respect, etc. it's the people that are misusing and abusing an otherwise perfect belief system which does not condone any of the atrocities that are being committed (some of which are being made up to slander muslims, and some of which are genuine).
>>65749644
>corrupt governments make terrorists kill people in the name of Allah
Nah
>>65750121
history disagrees with you, jeehurr was waged across the world trampling people with forced conversions and rape.
Sugar coat it like an idiot all you like, also >>65749569
so fuck off.
>>65749983
I agree with most of what you said, but the Ottomans can't be fully forgiven due to the Armenian genocide during WW1.
Granted, it was more of a political issue than a religious one, but it still happened.
>>65750121
>the equality of gender
Women can't even drive in some Muslim countries and have to cosplay as garbage bags how can you even say this
>>65750133
i didnt say those 2 were related, but they are in many cases (though vice versa). in afghanistan, the entire government is a joke. it's literally puppeteered by militia. in saudi arabia, corrupt "religious leaders" make extreme, oppressive, and abusive claims in which they use to chokehold citizens. getting caught being non-muslim is served with torture and imprisonment.
hey look, another corruption that has nothing to do with islam and actually goes against islamic belief and dogma again.
>>65750121
>the literature of islam says that slaves are no less than any other person and are to be treated with respect
>>65750172
culture =/= religion
that's the point i keep making. islam doesn't say anything about that. again, the fact that these cultures have no real authority besides some abusive and controlling group that acts in its own interest leads to corruption like this.
>>65750178
I was struggling to find a reaction image that even gave the smallest idea of my disgust at that last paragraph and I had nothing but you did it pal thanks
>>65750172
Yes anon, you're right.
But I can assure you that the quran does not address cars or women driving them.
That's the point the other anon is trying to make.
>>65750178
retard frogfaggot
Daily reminder Muhammad was a pedophile.
And The quran says the earth was flat.
Qur'an 15:19[edit]
والارض مددناها والقينا فيها رواسي وانبتنا فيها من كل شئ موزون
Waal-arda madadnahawaalqayna feeha rawasiya waanbatnafeeha min kulli shay-in mawzoonin
And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.
>>65750194
>culture=/=religion
That's dumb fine it's their """"culture"""" either way it's backwards and needs to be wiped out and won't be if we stand by and don't do anything
>>65750121
>muh religion of peace
>>65740857
He likes being dominated by stronger men, after all he is a radiohead fan
>>65750121
>that last paragraph
Ahmed, I thought posting on 4chan was haram
>>65750211
>>65750194
you guys are totally fucking wrong. the koran is sexist as all shit, stop explaining away bullshit middle age-tier mysticism as if it has any right to justify anything
>>65750230
except, these poor cultures were caused by the destruction of their societies through war and abuse from other nations most of the time. these "cultures that need to be wiped out" can ltierally be fixed with getting rid of a minority with guns and the us literally telling the shitty abusive governments "no."
>>65750257
good input.
memes aside, i'm not saying be muslim or believe in allah, because that's your prerogative. no one can force you to believe in god, and that is so far beside my point. my point is saying that if you need a moral compass, looking towards the place that says "you are not allowed to attack anyone; you can only attack in retaliation" is a good place to start.
>>65750311
Well, so is the bible.
I'm not defending their culture anon, don't mix things up.
I'm telling you to blame what actually needs to be blamed.
>>65750326
Yeah I guess you're right
RADIOHEAD FANS NEED TO QUIT BEING RACIST REEEEE
>>65750345
hey man. my wifes genderfluid nonbinary ally doesnt appreciate you insulting me while my wife fucks her boyfriend in the other room. :\
>>65750362
>blame what needs to be blamed
>so is the bible
Not convincing me "religion" isn't what needs to be blamed
>>65750095
Pakis I've met in tech have been very nice people. They weren't living in Pakistan though.
Also brofist mate, I can relate to their plight, I grew in a violent, civil war plagued shithole that's full of corruption and ignorance and the average person here is doomed to never develop into something relevant or to be moderately successful. It's sad. Hell, even some my mates who were talented and bright ended up in mediocre jobs.
>>65750380
meme harder
>>65750362
so the suicide bombers have no ties to religion then? no religious motives?
>>65750390
Ok.
Let lay it down nice and easy, so you understand.
Blame their culture.
Blame the history of those regions.
Blame corrupt dictatorships.
The church (catholic chuch, that is) did some very nasty shit during the middle ages too. The witch hunts in 'murrica and britain were terrible too. And they were not catholic. It was the product of a backwards culture.
Israel is doing a fair share of the killing too. Should I blame their religion? Is every jew a killer? Obviously no.
Mexico (were I live) has had a higher death toll than Siria. It's like 4:1 (probably even higher). And there's nothing religious about what's happening here.
Islam is being blamed because it's foreign to western culture. But the events can be explained even if we strip their religion out of the equation.
Blame the culture, politics and history. Islam has some nasty shit, same as any other religion. But the history of that region is even worse.
>>65750483
Japan had the kamikazes. Did they have religious motives?
Religion *can* be an intensive convince them, I'm not denying that.
But the main fuel for comes from somewhere else.
>>65750414
I just hope it stops anon.
I'm tired of this bullshit and how people see us because of it.
Where did you grow up, if I can know? If it's civil war, I assume it was in South America, or maybe the middle East.
>>65750560
soo....what are they chanting about in those ISIS execution videos then?
>>65750630
As I said.
Religion can be an incentive, and it can be deformed to convince radicals to do stupid shit.
But the rest of the muslim world condones what the shitheads of ISIS do. Their beliefs are nothing like that.
ISIS was born and is being sustained by political and economical reasons. No matter how drastic, prayers and chants don't buy guns and missiles.
If a KKK Christian fanatic killed a whole family of people of color, and recited passages of the bible while doing so, is his religion to blame?
You can hate and blame islam as much as you want, but that won't change the fact that religion simply can not sustain the whole armada of asshats that is ISIS.
>>65750560
>The catholic church did nasty things in the middle ages
But anon we are talking about current events that is completely irrelevant
>It's not their religion it's "something else"
>I'm not going to say what that is but it's definitely not their religion
t. A Mexican Intellectual
>>65750726
>condones
shit, I meant the opposite
*condemns
>>65750729
I did say what it was, though.
A golden star to Pete here, for reading comprehension.
>>65750726
Why are you so fervently defending a book that is factually incorrect and offers nothing to the modern age? A book that contains a lot of hate speech. Are you blinded by fanaticism? It sounds like it.
>>65750757
You said it was "culture, politics, and history"
So you are basically saying its Everything except Islam, when clearly it is Islam which is an invasive force bent on destruction and domination of "the infidels" and Always has been.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests_on_the_Indian_subcontinent
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6721/muslim-invasion-europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
>>65750784
Anon, i was raised in a Catholic family.
How in hell am i going to be an Islamic fanatic?
And, again, I'm not defending the fucking book.
I'm just telling you that the little book weights a lot less in the situation than what you think.
Fanatism does not buy bullets.
>>65750831
Have you even read the Koran? because if you have not then how can you compare Catholicism with Islam? How can you even equate all religions? Your comparison is meaningless.
>>65750831
Islam is not a religion or race, besides the fact that weak liberals would like to brand you racist or intolerant for criticizing it. Islam is a Political Doctrine.
>>65750792
You forgot the Armenian genocide anon.
Add it to the list.
And don't bring "dominion" into the conversation, because if there's something western civilisation was good at was that.
Also, the "destruction" of the infidels was used by both parts during the crusades. So don't act like it's exclusive to Islam.
And I'm not saying that Islam doesn't play a part in this mess. It obviously does. But much less that what you think.
Put a bunch of corrupt assholes dominating a region, add constant external invasions, a good that every power in the world wants (oil, diamonds, whatever) and you're bound to produce a similar shitfest. It's only logical.
Islam PERMEATES what happens. But it doesn't produce it.
>>65750848
I have, out off morbid curiosity.
But not that much.
Have you, anon?
>>65750853
Islam doesn't work like America anon.
Don't make up bullshit.
>>65750915
The Crusades were a defense of Europe against the invasive force of Islam. I bet you believe the colonists killed 60 gorillion Amer Indians as well?
>>65750955
>Islam doesn't work like America
You're right because the United States is the greatest country on Earth, and Islamic countries are such shit-holes you probably wouldn't even want to risk flying over them at 30,000 feet.
>>65749652
although both islam and britain first are hateful enough ideological groups that they can inspire murder
>>65750958
Kek
There was a total of 4 crusades idiot, with varied objectives.
Read a bit before you say dumb bullshit.
>>65750981
Sure anon.
Tell me more about your "perfect" utopia where people surely aren't killing each other over stupid reasons, and that has the lowest murder rates, drug consumption, rioting and war interventions in the world, I'm intrigued.
Surely you're superior to those savages at the east, am i right?
>>65750997
>Read a bit before you say dumb bullshit.
Did you really just say this after defending Islam?
>>65751067
I didn't say it was a perfect utopia anon, that would be ridiculous since such a thing doesn't exist. I said it's the Greatest Country on Earth.
>>65751075
Posting a picture of Voltaire doesn't deny the fact that you know jack-shit about history anon.
I'm talking to you, not him. Play your cards better dummy.
>>65751116
Seeing the political mess you guys are in, I'd say I disagree. And after seeing how ignorant you are regarding foreign culture, i assume you don't have many points of comparison.
Ignorance is a bliss, eh?
>>65751130
I don't care at all about your convoluted white hating version of history.
Either realize you have been completely brainwashed by Cultural Marxism and try to open your mind to the truth or fuck off.
And no I will not lower myself to name calling like you have.
>>65751184
Define the political mess we are in because from what I see a Nationalist who values freedom and truth is winning in a landslide while the rest of the west descends into Islamic cuckdom.
The great thing is we actually control our government, while 99% of Europeans can't even name 1 un-elected EU official.
>>65751184
Who needs comparisons when the superiority is so clear?
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-20903.html
>>65750939
>I have, out off morbid curiosity.
>But not that much.
Contradictory much?
>>65743386
>tfw this what they are really thinking
