Why do classical fans love the downward spiral so much?
Can sombody answer this for me?
...what are you talking about
>>65512205
Well. My question.
the same reason why anyone else would. It's a good album
Anyone mature enough to push aside the angsty lyrics and themes understand that the album is masterfully composed and produced.
>>65512182
>65512182
it's a good album, albeit made for 13-16 year olds lyrically; commercially speaking c'mon that's a bank breaking market i think ol Rez was aware of what he was doin w that fkn Joel Peter Witkin imagery in the closer video
>>65512426
This
Help me
>>65512426
pretty much this
Because it's art
>>65512467
>Albeit made for 13-16 year olds lyrically
I mean they're edgy yeah but I'd say they manage to be edgy without being immature, at least for the most part
>>65514304
Gay
>>65514304
>I'd say they manage to be edgy without being immature
Hahaha, no.
Trent Reznor is a lyricist on par with Jonathan Davis.
Closer has one of the grooviest baselines out there
>>65514715
>Immature Lyrics
"What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt"
please show me mature lyrics anon
>>65515133
That's supposed to be mature? Christ almighty anon you're 18 aren't you?
You can say the sun is shining if you really want to
I can see the moon and it seems so clear
You can take the road that takes you to the stars now
I can take a road that'll see me through
Down on Cyprus Avenue
With a childlike vision leaping into view
Clicking, clacking of the high heeled shoe
Ford & Fitzroy, Madame George
So it's not loaded stadiums or ballparks
And we're not kids on swingsets on the blacktop
And I thought at fifteen that I'd have it down by sixteen
And twenty-four keeps breathing in my face
>>65512426
true... but i like the themes too :3
>>65515133
You think those are mature lyrics? Are you 15?
>>65514715
the only really edgy song (lirically) is heresy and maybe I do not want this.
>>65515217
maturity is a meme anyways
>>65515193
I agree that those lyrics are very mature too, but they're of an entirely different style than NIN.
And honestly the first and third verses you listed sound like they could've been written by Green Day or Coldplay.
>>65515193
>And I thought at fifteen that I'd have it down by sixteen
>And twenty-four keeps breathing in my face
Cool blog dude
>>65515217
what about them is immature?
>>65515193
is this mature just because it's reflecting on adolescence..?
idg the fixation on "maturity." it doesn't make they lyrics better or worse... GBV come to mind as being great but sounding teenaged to me.
like i know people hate shit that sounds like it's coming from some angsty 14 year old, but it's not like you magically become okay with mortality and fix all your problems like that when you're an adult wtf
>>65515217
Are you a fag XD
>>65515312
It's mature because it's actually poetic and actually deeper than fucking "WAAAAAAAH"
GROW UP YOU FUCKING CHILD
The lyrics might not be deeply poetic masterworks, but I think they sound at least very honest. And that makes them powerful imo. It's a little like with Xiu Xiu imo, just without deformed penises.
>>65515604
Like how I beat yo ass
>>65515486
Man you're really convincing me of your maturity here
>>65515604
Exactly
>>65514715
Oh fuck no
>>65515604
This.
As for the rest of the board, y'all need to grow up and out of your "le edgy lyricks XDD" phase and realise that honesty and maturity don't just come from waxing lyrical about adolescence and metaphor.
post your top three tds songs /mu/
>reptile
>the becoming
>eraser
>>65518382
>Ruiner
>I do not want this
>March of the PIgs
This varies somewhat each time I listen to the album though
>>65515193
>>65515133
>>65515486
lol remember when Johnny Cash had to go be a fucking man child like "boo hoo i'm old and i've watched my loved ones die" GROW UP YOU FUCKING CHILD
>>65518593
I can't even tell if this is sarcasm or not anymore
>>65515486
>>65512426
>>65512467
We're talking about music not lyrics kiddos.
>>65515604
>>65515222
Basically this.
And tbch the themes of this album stand waaay above the lyrics in terms of deepness and are one of the things that makes it so great.
Fuck your >muh edginess
>>65512639
I am in hell
Because of its use of leitmotif and the way different sounds represent different aspects of nascent contemporary human existence.
>>65520331
>>65520447
These.
>>65520447
aaaaa this is the best explanation I've heard of TDS ever
>>65520447
Leitmotif is overrelied upon in the popular music idiom
>>65518382
>Ruiner
>Reptile
>Mr Self Destruct
>>65518382
>>65521863
Ruiner is so goat
>>65518382
Those are my exact three
>>65512182
We do?... oh
>>65514661
Fuck that, I'm taking rainbows back from the gays. Rainbows are fucking cool.
>>65522009
Same
>>65517992
trent reznor is a shitty lyricist that never left his manchild face. stop trying to do le reddit switcheroo and tell us we are the actual immature ones, it's not working
>>65523728
Holy shit imagine being this ignorant!
>>65523862
t. NIN fanboy
I like TDS but there's no amount of relativism enough to turn Trent Reznor into anything but a pathetic lyricist
>>65523920
It's not his only album mane
>caring at all about lyrics
jesus christ this general is full of plebs, the music and production on the downward spiral is top notch
>>65519004
That's why it's called "Post-Irony"
>>65523993
>no you're doing it wrong you should totally discard this element that is prevalent in his music. why? because it's bad and I said so
if a song has lyrics, you should pay attention to them. if they were unnecessary it would be an instrumental track
>>65524069
>instrumental
dude that's what A Warm Place is for, lol
>>65524002
do you even avant-meme
>>65524113
But I'm not talking about the actual instrumental tracks? Jesus...
>>65523920
Considering recording artists as "lyricists" is to misunderstand the art.
>>65525521
This.
>>65512182
I can't relate my love for classical to my love for NIN if that's what you're asking.
I like it because it's great. It's produced well, the angsty theme is executed perfectly, and it speaks beyond the bars to an unsung trend of heartless music for heartless people. Hence Ruiner, Mr. Self Destruct, Piggy, etc. I felt like Trent was speaking directly to a certain kind of listener and telling them to fuck off.
10/10
