Correctly posted edition
Learn the importance of writing /prod/ in the subject line, why these threads never make it to bump limit, and that I shouldn't have bothered starting this again in the first place.
Stuff:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
>/prod/ wiki - looking for contributors (wink, wink)
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki
>Join the discord. Or not. We don't care.
https://discord.gg/0wV1D4bx327LZ5WE
>I couldn't be bothered to find the OP with the link to the IRC
Remember to use clyp.it for tracks that you post here.
>Soundcloud links are for soundcloud threads.
Threadly reminder that if you see a newfag posting a soundcloud link, simply ignore him, and don't shit up the thread.
>FL IS A SHIT DAW
Maybe this time the thread won't die instantly
I wonder if Lunga studios actually gets shit done or if they just chill and get high all day
Rate my teaser
https://clyp.it/4upqb1rr
>>65502885
what did i do to deserve this/10
intro was okay, set me up for something a little better than what this actually is
I wish I could understand the vocal
the drums are pretty shitty and weak
synths pretty generic
you have some pretty decent musical ideas, kinda flopped on the execution though
keep going, you'll get better
reaktor blocks are the second coming of christ.
>>65503046
Word thanks for listening. The mix is shit I know. Should have warned about that. I plan on personalizing the drums and adding some automation here and there on all of the tracks to make it sound less generic. I made this almost a year ago and my knowledge of and experience with ableton has doubled at least. Glad you hear some potential in it. I'll prolly end up scrapping it tho and working on more noisy stuff
>>65503046
>>65503510
Post something of yours if you want some critique
>>65503533
I haven't been working on anything recently, but you can tell me whether or not this is worth going back and fixing/finishing
https://clyp.it/w34f2bg2
bump in the night
https://clyp.it/1uwoga10
Pls r8
Something I'm making. I think the intro is pretty chill, but everything else falls weak. Also need to put some bass there. Anyone knows cool bass scales?
>>65504416
I like it, it's pretty A E S T H E T I C
If there's any part in your track that you consider a "drop", you should remove the kick and bass for about two bars just before it.
That way, when it "drops", you've got more "bam" factor in the track.
If that's not what you're going for, you can try adding long verby pads.
As for bass, it's probably easier to just follow your chord progression.
>>65502516
Why does /prod/ use clyp but not sound cloud? Is there an important difference ?
>>65504831
Back in the day clyp.it was anonymous. Now it's somewhat not. Also you don't need an account to upload.
But if there's anything, you can't beg people to like/follow you because you can't as far as I can tell. We don't want newfags shitting up the thread with self promotion when this general is more about WIPs and helping each other get better at making music.
>>65502516
the mega links on the pastebin arent working
>>65505085
We know
>>65503510
>The mix is shit I know.
Why did you post it then
I was going to ask something earlier today but now I forgot.
If anyone uses Reason, what's the best synth to use if I want to git gud at modular synths
Help
>>65506022
>>65506261
No. They should still work.
>>65506261
Thanks dude. I wasn't sure if the icloud was linked to an acc or something its my first time using apple.
>>65504985
Thanks
https://clyp.it/czqcue5w
Put this together the other day, looking for some constructive criticism. Want to know if this is worth progressing or if I'm wasting my time.
https://clyp.it/pcsjzmlz
Posted this in the last /prod/ and no body seemed to have seen it.
Is it quality?
What should I do to improve?
Given that I have been producing for a year now, is it ok?
>>65506243
Thor if you have version 5 and up, Subtractor if you have an older version. Maelstrom is weird and kinda sucks.
>>65506243
http://www.reasonexperts.com/refills-and-patches/reason-refills/Thors-Hammer-Final.html
there ya go
>>65502575
first post best post
https://clyp.it/3ihq4f4v
can someone with some monitors lmk how the mix sounds?
I could make a detailed post but it can be summed up as this
56s draft
What do now /prod/?
https://clyp.it/gatgoyht
How liberally do you guys use parallel compression outside of percussive/plucky instrumentation?
Like would you ever put it on a synth or would it not be worth it unless it has a hard attack?
Or is it good practice to use it on everything to varying degrees to maintain fader stability?
>>65502575
ableton isn't so great either imo
it has a lot of simple shit missing from Cubase I like
and I hate the adaptive grid mode a lot too
Bimp
>>65503063
damn that looks great
Tried my hand at some PureData a while ago but it's a big pain in the ass to do logic and math with blocks and wires, instead of just text scripting.
>>65503063
Wait can you only use the included modules? No third party or scripting API or anything?
>>65503063
I bet this uses a pretty high amount of cpu
Anyone do hip-hop? I'm trying to finger drum my drums on some pads, but my hands aren't having it
any exercises i can do for this shit?
>>65515036
practice you lazy fuck
also quantize midi if your rhythm sucks that bad.... also keep practicing (to a metronome)
>MFB put the shitty tanzbar kick drum on the tanzbar lite
holy shit why
Does it ever get better?
>>65516187
Eventually
>>65516187
Only if you put the time in and are willing to take criticism/be critical of your own material.
>>65502516
i literally ripoff local bands cause i have pro tools and wave plugins. All i do is eq a bit and a bunch of plugins to the master bus. It doesn't matter anyway, its a bunch of punk bands with shitty practice amps and shitty gear. they don't know the difference.
>>65517230
isn't that what instrument recorders do anyway just with better gera lol
>>65516035
What's wrong with it? Love my little mfb synth but not sure about their drums. Wanted to demo one at a local shop but the guy couldn't get it to work lol.
>>65517230
It always makes me a bit sad when some noname band that just started drops 2k on some studio sessions instead of just DIYing it.
>>65517869
seriously 2k is enough your own setup
>>65517849
There's nothing inherently wrong with the kick but on the Tanzbar there are two kicks. One is sits kinda between a 606 and a 909 and the other is 808 esq. I was considering buying the lite but it has the 808 style kick on it.
>>65518431
Ah right. You could get the tanzmaus instead and put 606 samples on it lol.
Is it true that you can sequence every parameter per step with these?
>>65517969
lol for real my own setup isn't even 2k
then again you still gotta know what you're doing... too many releases with abysmal engineering and "production" are coming out
>>65518526
I have no clue how the sequencer works t b h. Imo the draw to the Tanzbar/lite is the fact that the sounds have the same body and weight to them as the classic drum machines, but they don't sound like them.
https://clyp.it/4ejxxy5c
you won't regret clicking this link
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1uzKZ30nGR4
testing a new mic for black metal, one of my first times attempting vocals as well, but I want the second part to really resonate off of the first three words, playing around with eq but not quite getting there, what's the way to go about this?
Is there any way I can get stems of old songs and remix them? I remember an old boy in the industry was telling me once how he was able to take a bob marly song (all the stems in the project) and then remix it to his liking. How do you get those?
Can someone recommend me a good software to make beats?
I've been using ableton live and logic, but I don't have a Mac anymore and I'm using a pic with Windows 10 (I'm thinking of reverting back to 8.1).
Anyway, thanks in advance.
Also I should add that I'm broke so a torrent or something cheap or free or whatever would suffice.
>>65520157
ableton works just fin on windows
>>65520157
why not just keep using ableton live but on windows
>>65520145
google-fu/connections
>>65520145
If the song has been used in Guitar Hero or Rock Band, search for [your required song title] + MOGG and you'll find it most likely - it'll be in a multi-track ogg file that'll open in Audacity.
Lots of others have been ripped from the original multi-track tape (a few Queen songs and a few Nirvana songs spring to mind) so, again, search for [your required song title] + stems or [your required song title] + multitrack and you might get lucky.
>>65520157
cmon man, BACK to 8.1? baka
ableton works just fine, pirate a copy of suite 9.6.1.
>>65520405
awesome, thanks a lot.
>>65520186
>>65520191
>>65520410
Because I torrented on a Mac and I can't find a good torrent for ableton on Windows 10
how to recreate this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdz03uvUldk
sounds simple enough, r-right?
>>65520630
I have a legit copy but there should be a recent version released but I don't know where to look either
>>65520630
damn son you really gon' make me do this
here :
https://kat.cr/ableton-live-9-suite-v9-2-1-x64x86-incl-patch-io-deepstatus-t11043521.html
follow the instructions, dont be a simpleton
>>65508111
The sub on the kick could be quieter.
Those wobbly instruments could be toned down more in the mid-high.
The bit-crushed hats at the end hurt.
Needs compression on the master to bring everything up.
Brotip: nothing you ever make will be a waste of time, because it's a learning experience.
>>65510346
This is really great as it is.
Maybe a touch more highs above the 10kHz range.
I think the bass is a bit too loud. I'd say bring it down 1-5dB to taste.
Vocal shout at the beginning might be too much.
And finally, compress the master to bring everything up.
>>65511904
Sounds like a Vocaloid accompaniment track.
Add more velocity variety to the piano, and shave off a little anywhere from the 1-5kHz range.
Bass is a tad too much, and I believe you should make more space for the drums to cut through the piano/bass/whatever mash.
What drums are you using though? They're pretty well done.
>>65519065
Did not regret.
Trumpets would sound way better if they were super wide.
>>65519571
You should probably add distortion, short delay, then reverb to your voice. Or anything that'll glue it in together with the guitar/drums.
By itself, it doesn't fit in with the track at all lol
>>65508111
Pretty chill. The organ thing going on is a little loud imo.
>>65520940
bless you
https://clyp.it/sxloiqvf
Here's a house track I'm working on.
Is it too generic/10?
>>65521130
Also, the chords are not properly sidechained. They're actually samples I found online that sound sidechained. I like the synth but I can't figure out how to recreate it to set it up right.
>>65515166
>practice you lazy fuck
he's literally asking for resources to help with doing this you stupid fuck
>>65520940
oh shit those trumpets were mono
i didn't even realize that
thanks a lot anon
https://clyp.it/fvdurj5h
My attempt at future bass, but it sounds like 2-step house.
Thoughts?
>>65521130
Snare is completely drowned out.
Sounds like you've been mixing with a limiter on your master. Turn it off, reset all your levels, and mix again from scratch.
You can make a backup so you don't lose anything.
https://clyp.it/pqzieifu
Just made this today. It's only the intro and the first verse, but I wanted to get some constructive feedback before I continue.
>>65522072
This is really great.
You can add ominous verby drums to the intro, but that's just personal preference.
I think you should pitch correct the vocals, but do whatever you think sounds good.
For recording vocals and acoustic instruments like piano and classical guitar, should i get a condenser microphone like the MXL 990 or a dynamic microphone like the Shure SM57?
Or should i get 2 different microphones for vocals and instruments? On the shureblog i read this about the difference between the SM57 and SM58:
The 57 and 58 microphones are actually based on the same cartridge design. The main difference is in the grille. The SM58 was designed for vocal applications, and therefore uses a ball grille with built in pop filter to eliminate plosives.
"The SM57 is designed as an instrument microphone, where a smaller grille size is more practical and plosives are less of a concern. Subsequently, the SM57 does not use a ball grille with pop filtering and instead features an integral resonator/grille assembly, where the grille is actually part of the cartridge."
I don't actually know what exactly the difference between dynamic and condenser is though
>>65519065
>https://clyp.it/4ejxxy5c
what did you use for the trumpets
>>65520717
a basic synth for the most part
>>65520863
When it says disable the anti virus software does it mean windows firewall and mcafee ?
And do they have to be off all the time ?
>>65523019
Just mcaffe probably, I used it using only windows firewall and had no problems
Nah you can turn it back on when its done, just make sure to block ableton from connecting to the internet, and make a new shortcut from the executable in the folder. The shortcut the installer made will trigger a "please activate" pop up (at least it did for me, maybe not for you)
>>65522948
pls expand, im downloading a daw as we speak and wanna get into this shit. it sounds simple enough, so what would you even call "it" ?
>>65523124
>It's an "i don't even know about basic synthesis" episode
Just google it instead of having people type up the same shit for you here
>>65522883
>I don't actually know what exactly the difference between dynamic and condenser is though
Physical difference is the manner in which they convert sound waves to electric signals - dynamic mics will have a membrane connected to a coil, which moves within a magnetic field when sound strikes it, generating a signal.
Condenser (olde-worlde word for "capacitor") mics use two extremely thin metallic plates with a dielectric material in between - this creates a capacitor whose capacitance changes when vibrations are applied to it - the capacitance changes cause an audio signal to be generated when a voltage has already been applied to the plates, thus condenser mics always require a power supply for the capsule and for the built-in pre-amplifier.
Since condenser mic capsules have less mass they have less inertia - this makes them more sensitive and ideal for quiet sources like whispered vocals and singers with large dynamic ranges but it also (since inertia also affects recoil time) allows them to capture higher frequencies, making them great for instruments with lots of higher-order harmonics, like pianos and acoustic stringed instruments like violins and guitars.
They're also great for brass but be careful - brass instruments are fuck-loud with real fast transients so use condenser mics with brass at a distance, or use dynamic mics which are more robust.
Dynamics are great for anything super-loud like drums and amplified guitars, also live vocals since they take more punishment and are less sensitive to other sounds close-by.
>>65523124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJkxGvhOS-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK3m8sMkTE4
watch this shit
Anyone have any experience recording amps?
I only have an SM57 and MX990 microphone available to me and was considering wether I would need to go DI or those mic's would produce a good enough sound. This is a bass guitar I'm talking about. I'll probably end up doing both and see which one sounds better but if anyone has any input or suggestions please let me know.
>>65520940
It's hard for me to do that with my voice, my voice cuts out when i go high so early dead(mayhem), necrophobic, and cleaner immortal vocals are what im limited to,b ut ill try
>>65522883
well I just got a pdmic78 which is a $10 alternative to the sm57 and I have to say that it's pretty damn good for a dynamic mic if you wanted one to have on hand or testm just note that it only comes with a mic-to-1/4 inch cable
>>65523452
Does that mean if i want to record normal sung vocals i should use a Dynamic mic?
>>65522883
>>65523570
and I forgot to say that this mic is only optimal for the instruments, maybe more piano in some cases, but acoustic guitar as well unless you want it to feel like a cabin jam room, in which case you will want the condenser mic
>>65523697
I'd say if you want to record anything amplified or real loud like live drums, or vocals, then dynamic yeah.
If vocals or pianos or acoustic guitars, then condenser.
If you can only choose one mic, that is.
>>65523536
Bass guitar is usually a combination of mic and DI, but you will get some phase issues so the balance needs to be right.
>>65523786
>>65523452
What's considered the industry standard for condenser microphones in the same way the SM57 is considered an industry standard for live vocals and recording amps?
>>65524282
Neumann U87, or U47 if you're into vintage sounds. AKG C414s are real common too.
>>65523970
But would an sm57 suffice for recording a bass guitar amp?
>>65524399
Some people use a 414 (AKG) for bass guitar (and for kick drums) but with a bit of distance to avoid damaging it, this will make the phase issue more prominent though - 57s get used for amped basses with the DI to help solidify the bottom end.
>>65524456
>57s get used for amped basses with the DI to help solidify the bottom end.
Alright, I will probably try a combination of the two and try to avoid phasing. Thanks for the info
itt people who will never amount to anything bc they talk about the topic instead of actually doing their own thing
>>65524541
do you amount to anything yourself
>>65524537
If you're using a DAW you can add some negative delay to the mic'ed bass (play maybe 10 - 15 milliseconds ahead) to bring it into line with the DI'ed bass, with old-school tape and a decent mixer sometimes flipping the polarity of the DI'ed bass will help - you'll get there.
>>65524541
list of successful people who never talked about anything they were working on?
>>65524358
wow i was thinking of something in the SM57 price range or somewhere between 100$ and 200$
I'm just starting out recording my actual instruments. I've been playing for like 10 years and have never recorded them, my only recording experience is with synthesizers
>>65524655
AT-2020 is a good buy for the price of a 57, the Rode mics are superb for the (more) money too but yeah the pro condenser industry standard is a world away from the dynamic.
>>65524689
Rode NT1?
>>65524760
All of them are good - if you can stretch to it an NT1 will please you with the build quality, if not an AT-2020 will give you good results too.
>>65524814
Thanks for the help lad, i appreciate it.
>>65524616
It's not normal to record a mic'd bass and go DI at the same time is it? I don't even know how you'd do that..
>>65524897
Record two tracks at once, using a splitter to run one cable to the amp and the other directly to the mixer/interface. Once they're recorded you time-align them.
>>65524951
>using a splitter
hahah I feel dumb for not thinking of that, thanks again
>>65522027
Oh wow, I didn't even notice the weak snare. Turns out the original sample was too airy in the first place. Thanks for the input anon.
>think I've written a good tune
>turns out its the bass line from Pangea Girls by Candy Claw
>>65525322
don't let that discourage you why should that even matter
>>65514694
>Wait, can it not do all these things that are totally unnecessary??
Shut up, faggot nerd
>>65502885
Reminds me of homestar runner
>>65504416
chill, but do more stuff, very boring after a while
make that buzzy bass synth more melodic, but this is actually very good, keep it up
>>65519571
luv it :^0
r8 me hunky anons ;3
https://clyp.it/be4rgxk3
>>65525322
>write awesome bassline
>yoo this is incredible how did I even write this
>wait a minute....
>go to youtube
>search "inspector gadget movie main theme"
>mfw
why do I even try jesus
>>65526310
inspector gadget theme psytrance remix
>>65526186
thanks
and I'm digging it, needs something of a large low section though I think
>>65524541
Jokes on you I'm only here when I'm on the shitter/when my brain is fried from overwork
>>65508436
>make that buzzy bass synth more melodic, but this is actually very good, keep it up
meant for this post
>>65521130
So here's a redone mix like the other guy said. Does it sound better or did I ruin the dynamics? Any mastering/musical tips appreciated.
https://clyp.it/foelgboy
>foelgboy
You guys need to grab the "event horizon" plugin by stillwell audio. Its a fucking beast on drums. Also check out Dyno by them, its a great transient / enveloper. I would not steer you wrong.
>>65512541
I use it a lot, idk how necessary it is though. Sometimes it's hard to tell.
Watching Pensado's Place though, there's actually a surprising number of engineers who only use parallel compression and don't use normal compression at all. It's an interesting idea to try I guess.
is it too gimmicky to have atmospheric sound effects like fire or bubbles? I'm trying to add more atmosphere so my tracks aren't just meat and potatoes
>>65526942
What kind of music would you use this for?
>>65527085
it really depends how you use it I think
I don't think theres anything wrong with that
>>65527562
in my opinion- best on anything with acoustic drums, drum breaks, that sort of thing. but really.. any drums with some well defined transients that aren't uber compressed yet, that you want to sound aggressive as fuck, hit them with event horizon a bit. Its basically a clipper that has some grimey saturation.
Dyno on the other hand, great on snares and kicks, on the individual channels. Especially if its a bus where you are combining a few layers. It listens for the transients much like a compressor, but when triggered by sound passing the threshold, applies the envelope you drew. Ends up being sort of like a really surgical compressor.
Not a good one on the whole drum bus, because it needs to get triggered by discrete drum sounds, a kick and snare and other loud hits will trigger it just the same, and confuse it.
How do dubstep/complextro producers make all these random synth sounds fit together in a drop?
I made a dnb track with a simple rolling 1/8th note distorted bassline but I can't come up with even a simple transition with another synth
>>65529999
witnessed
What's the most important element of music, the songwriting (melodies, harmony, etc) or the production (mixing, mastering, sound designing)?
>>65508436
i liked that a lot m8. youve got it goin
Just throwing my 2c into the mic discussion, I have an AKG C214 and find it really great. It's about 2x the price of the similar Rode NT1 but I find it picks up low end a bit better.
Anyone suggesting Neumans or C414s in this thread is a fucking idiot and should not be listened to.
>>65520940
>What drums are you using though? They're pretty well done.
AD2
Thanks lad
The mechanical feel of the piano is intentional but i don't know if i'll keep it
>>65530464
It depends of the genre.
I don't understand how I'm supposed to stabilize a fader where the signal is panned hard in one direction or is auto-panning
>>65532452
>stabilize a fader
what?
>produced since 2014
>still shit
https://clyp.it/k5l11bcf
>>65532658
>2 years.
kek I've been producing for 16 years and I still have flaws. You never stop learning.
I thought your clyp was cool as fuck. very nice bassline. nice piano chords and sound. brass stabs felt a bit weird though, either get some harmony going there, or make it into more of a melody. 1 note just feels a bit flat.
>>65532748
pls share music and production tips senpai
>>65530885
>Anyone suggesting Neumans or C414s in this thread is a fucking idiot and should not be listened to.
That would have been me. I didn't suggest that anyone should buy them, I pointed out their status as industry standard (in the same way 57s are industry standard dynamic mics) since that was the question that had been asked, followed by a comment that home users who would not necessarily want to put in the same investment would still get a good result from an AT-2020 or a Rode.
>>65532772
only because you asked:
https://soundcloud.com/psllbof
Just finished a new fugue, pretty much what I've been obsessed with recently. Endless fugues.
Production tips eh... Most of what I've been focusing on in the last 5 years has been the composition side, I dont feel like I've grown very much in the production area, in fact I've probably lost ground! I still dont have any decent mics or preamps, I've acquired some decent orchestral libraries, but I feel the real "good stuff" comes from recording real players and instruments. idk do pastiches of pieces you like, learn from the masters, compare your music to good mixes and see where its falling down. If you've been producing for at least 10 years and you feel like you're not progressing, its time to learn theory.
http://downloads.izotope.com/guides/iZotope-Mixing-Guide-Principles-Tips-Techniques.pdf
Please read this and apply it to what you do
>>65532495
The engineering manual I'm reading keeps telling me I should be trying to resolve unstable faders for a balanced mix.
I don't understand how I'm supposed to achieve that when I have auto-pan controls assigned moving the signal left to right, causing more instability.
>hear chord progression that I like in a song
>transcribe it to midi
>change instrument
>change tempo
Is this still sampling?
>>65533047
definitely not. Its called "using chords you like"
Try to change the voicing or inversions though if you can.
gunna be really annoying and post 2 things i been working on, but would really appreciate any feedback particularly on the first link im gunna post! both just v rough mixing etc but advice/comments on the mix v welcome)
https://clyp.it/arbmfqbd
>draft for a song for an album im working on
>do you like it? would you listen to an album of similar yet diverse music like this?
https://clyp.it/51xo23op
>sean kingston - beautiful girls juke/jungle remix
>just a bit of a laugh really
>>65533079
I don't know, it just feels sort of lazy. Like I'm not putting in the effort of sitting down on the piano and coming up with my own progression through trial and error.
What are voicings and inversions?
>>65533228
an inversion is where you take the lowest note and put it up an octave / 12 semitones
Its still the same chord, but arranged differently. You can keep taking the bass note and flicking it up an octave, usually you can do this 3 times for each chord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr2XBoanNJY
>>65533228
not him but also voicings are the notes you use to choose/order of them in the chord you play. for example there are loads of different ways of playing a C7 chord (different extensions like 9th and 13th etc.) and where you choose to play those notes in relation to each other in a chord is what makes your 'voicing' of that chord.so 2 different voicings for C7 could be: C, G, Bb, Db, E, A or C, Bb, D, E, A
both are ways of playing C7 chords but the chords use different notes in different orders so will sound different.
What's a good program in terms of flexibility and scripting interface for production? Looking for something a little more high level than diy from scratch.
>>65533793
MAX/MSP
>>65533846
Looks pretty legit except non-libre, and ms/appl only.
Is pure data with looking at? BSD licensed and cross platform.
>>65533090
anyone care to have a listen to this? would really appreciate any advice/thoughts/criticism?
https://clyp.it/tu4erwar
been working on this nonstop for hours like an autist, i'm tired of listening to it, thoughs on it?
i don't know if this is a proper ending after the first "drop", what would you do?
>>65533090
pretty gud man, nice chords, i would listen to this definitely, do you have soundcloud?
the only complain i'd have is that everything could sound brighter for my taste
>>65533090
>keys 111 ruff draft
Love the smooth bassline and the sax. You should do better EQ and compressing though, especially with the drums. Like the other anon said, boost the highs. Song structure wise, try having it build up to something. Either that or try making a really catchy chorus with the sax.
>>65534117
Really reminds me of With Me by Cashmere Cat.
Where did you get the strings from? I've been looking for a good string library for ages.
The vocal sample gets sort of repetitive. Try having it drop out more often.
>>65534370
>>65534117
Thanks m8, i thought about the vocal sample being repetitive aswell.
These strings are in the kontakt factory library, it's in the world instruments section, i think it was called korah or something like that
>>65533016
Somebody pls
>>65534709
Sum master to mono, mix, back to stereo.
>>65534409
>These strings are in the kontakt factory library, it's in the world instruments section, i think it was called korah or something like that
Thanks family. I've had Kontakt forever, but have never bothered to go through the factory library.
>>65534738
Won't that just smoosh the panned signals together in the process?
They'd be coming out both sides each time instead of modulating across per round.
>>65514694
you can build your own 'blocks' within the reaktor framework. there's a sizeable library of use built modules already.
>>65514888
it's fairly efficient. a lot more cpu friendly than a u-he subtractive VA.
>>65534231
thanks man, i do have soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/dj-godfrey-ho yeh as i said its a ittle rough rn mix-wise but helpful feedbaack!
>>65534370
thanks again, was gunna add more instruments, layers etc. but yeh gunna ave a proper go at the mix tomoro!
>>65536439
also just worth mentioning, native instruments tend to protype a great deal of their own stuff within reaktor prior to a vst rewrite (which doesn't even happen these days a lot of the time. they just put out the reaktor ensemble).
>>65536209
What I meant by that was to properly mix each track with the master in mono so that the difference between speakers disappear.
Then, once you've mixed the levels of each track to taste, put the master back to stereo to hear it in its full spatial width.
Much of the time, if it sounds good mono, it'll sound great stereo. Not always though.
Hi /prod/ i'm trying to get an early-swans-like sound because it's /fun/
https://clyp.it/q3iaso0q
Opinions?
>>65532925
>>65532748
P
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your last fugue is quite nice
I thought your symphony wasn't completed ?
Does anyone know what happened to the drums on when I recorded this to tape? I would assume that is was clipping but there are sections of the tape playing the same loop where it doesn't make that noise.
https://clyp.it/opobowph
posted a less-complete version of this in here yesterday, here's an updated version with first verse and chorus. this is my first attempt at writing lyrics and singing on one of my tracks. thoughts?
https://clyp.it/atf14xbz
>>65538098
sounds like clipping to me. it's not going to clip every time that loop is played, because tape isn't going to do exactly the same thing every time you send the same signal do it. try turning the overall volume down just a tiny bit and do it again.
>>65538159
You're probaly right, the other theory I came up with was I screwed up the tape rewinding/fast forwarding to much.
>>65533016
>The engineering manual I'm reading keeps telling me I should be trying to resolve unstable faders for a balanced mix.
this sounds like total nonsense
>>65538098
make sure the iron oxide coating on the tape isn't flaking off. It can happen in old tape stock.
Trying to make some dark, lofi sampled beats, going for a sort of sporting life vibe. Can anyone give me some tips to get a more queasy, flylo sidechain compression effect besides "just get kickstart"? And any critique in general. Using ableton btw
https://clyp.it/rtw2iw2z
>>65538904
I don't have tips for you but it's quite nice
>>65537287
What drum library are you using?
>>65539783
Addictive drums 2
>>65539817
>>65539783
>>65537287
https://clyp.it/gegbhieu
v0.2
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Why does Image Line do this?
>>65538670
The phrase gets mentioned in "Mixing Secrets" but the meaning is clouded - what they're getting at is a signal with unruly peaks and dips in level, resulting in constant movement of the fader to compensate.
What they don't mean is deliberate movement of the fader as a creative choice.
PLEASE HLLLLP
Why the fuck do i place one singular beat in the step sequencer in fl studio 11 but when i play the pattern it plays a beat every 4 counts or so over and over until it gets all muddy and starts playing over each other? Fucks sake
>>65540430
uncheck "use loop points" in the sampler window, I believe
>>65540510
Thanks man appreciate it
How would you make synths like the ones here at 1:29?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9L4q-0Pi4E
Also what vsts do you guys find yourselves using the most?
https://my.mixtape.moe/gkdryl.mp3
made a loop for a song
opinions?
Why is it so goddamn difficult to pirate and install vst's? Jesus christ nothing ever works and the shit takes so fucking long.
I really want someone to answer this for me and give me suggestions because this shit kills me man
>>65539930
>https://clyp.it/gegbhieu
teach me
i really like this
>>65541013
i've almost never had issues, familia
>>65541013
Have you thought to not use pirated software? I'm not saying "piracy is bad" at all, but software will work better if it isn't patched.
tried making a loud mix out of a metal multitrack found online. To make it loud without automating everything every second it clips at random places.
https://clyp.it/ak40tnhc
>>65502575
This post made me switch to ableton. Now how the fuck do i do slide notes?
Is an audiointerface + Microphone
better than just using a usb microphone?
>>65541428
since every usb microphone is a shit microphone, yes.
>>65541389
Turn up the glide
>>65541428
Yes, much better. The interface will have proper preamps to drive the microphone. Then you wont sound like a nutsack
>>65541448
im actually angry, that is not flexible at all
>>65541500
try the "flexiglide"
>>65523124
Just look up a synth tutorial video or watch some of those synthesis links. It doesn't take too long to learn how to make those sounds.
is there something other than the synth parts you wanted to know about?
>>65523513
>3 hours
>>65541472
>>65541440
alright thanks
>>65541013
>nothing ever works
Are you downloading torrents that others have also had trouble with? Any specific ones?
>the shit takes so fucking long
Downloading? Installing? Patching?
>>65541000
it's a basic drum beat
has some nice clippy satuation effect
I did a thing. going for BoC meets four tet kinda thing. compelling?
https://clyp.it/icdj532t
Someone had linked me a long time ago some plugins that I really enjoyed but I've recently cleaned my pic completely and now I can't remember which ones they were.
Anyway can someone link me or direct me to getting some dark ambient plugins and drums.
Thanks
>>65542320
pretty good. I think it would sound better if the drums were quieter
>>65543010
Do you know what it would look like if you searched dark ambient on google images?
>>65543055
Yes.
How do you use a compressor with a mixer?
Should I send the drums to the sub mix outs then route them back into the mixer on a different channel? I would do this solution but the FX sends don't go to the sub outs.
How does it sound so far? I can't seem to get that first lead to sound right.
https://clyp.it/bn2qnuzf
No synth thread so I'm going to ask here.
What is playing the bass line in this song? A synth, a sampler? I'm stuck on it and can't find it anywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgkvk0hQS6U
>>65543374
prolly a synth sequencer
>>65543398
What would be the best way to do this live? Play it or record a loop
https://clyp.it/gylcjreh
how muddy/10?
>>65543415
just loop it.
>>65542213
>Any specific ones?
Yea, Omnisphere crashes every single time i try to authorize it in my daw no matter what. East West wont appear when i scan for new vst's in fl studio and I created my steam folder in a different place than the default location for Trillian and it is all fucked up because of that it seems and i have no idea why the fuck that would mess it up so bad.
With trillian and omnisphere it takes an incredible amount of time to download them since theyre so huge and imma need to uninstall trillian and reinstall it and create a new steam folder so that will take a long time and i doubt it will work even after that and with a lot of these vst's such as east west they have almost no seeders so they take weeks to download and then dont even work.
And naw of course i read the comments on the torrents and pick ones that people arent having problems with and ill never download one that has everybody saying it doesnt work but with a lot of these vst's theres only like 1 torrent im ever able to find and still i wont even mess with it unless theres a significant amount of people saying it works fine
Thanks for the help man
>>65543571
So record it to my daw, loop it and then play the look from my laptop when live?
>>65543571
>>65543718
Thank you for the help too, I really appreciate it, my knowledge with synths and samplers etc is very limited
>>65543718
>>65543750
what's your set up like lad?
live and studio (i.e. if you're using a softsynth or some hardware ting)
>>65543010
So can anyone help?
>>65543904
Spectrasonics Omnisphere
>>65543995
Thanks family
>>65543904
>can someone link me or direct me to getting some dark ambient plugins and drums
your question is fundamentally flawed t b h
describe what they look like or summat.
no such thing as plugin for <genre>
>>65544004
What I meant was a plugin for the sounds they use in dark ambient music.
>>65543995
that looks more like a rompler to me.
https://clyp.it/0v5wlwby
What's /prod/'s thoughts on this? Is the main synth too loud?
>>65544068
no the main synth sounds alright to me
the kick is a little weak tho
I'm legit getting angry af here. Don't know if i just google the wrong shit or if literally no one has tried that before. Maybe i'm just ultra retarded.
Is it possible to use a club mixer without UBS, let's say and old Pioneer DJM or the Reloop RMX 60, with Traktor? Like basically just have two channels from Traktor on 2 channels of the mixer.
If not, is it possible with a mixer that has a USB connection, like newer Pioneer models, the Reloop RMX-40 USB or the Behringer DJX 900USB? Basically just want to use it to crossfade between two/four channels on Traktor and use the effects of the mixer. Maybe use Ableton, too, as i have an Ableton Push.
>>65544024
you're still going about it all wrong, m8.
i'll leave someone else to help you with that and what not. if you just want to faf about you might want to grab a copy of camelaudio's alchemy or summat if you can still find it.
>>65544068
touch loud by the end of the bar + what the other anon said about your kick.
Hey prod getting started with max for live
Ive been playing around with beap for a while and I want to learn it seriously. How do I know when to use what objects and shit??
>>65543653
I think we had someone with Omnisphere troubles before in /prod/, maybe two weeks ago, was that yourself?
I did look into it at the time and there were people with the legit version having the same issue - it had something to do with the directory that Omnisphere installed its licence file into, this was with Windows systems and it had to do with file/folder permissions being incorrectly set by the installer, thus preventing someone logged in with a typical user account from making changes to the licence file when they tried to authorize the VST.
What you could try to begin with is to launch your DAW as Administrator and this *should* launch the VST's authorization app with the same privileges - that might be enough to allow you to make changes to the licence file.
Alright, im gonna keep this short.
I have a Behringer Xenyx 302 USB, Traktor Pro 2, want to pre-listen/cue, but only have R/L channels in the audio output options in Traktor. Is there any other way to do this?
>>65544233
>Like basically just have two channels from Traktor on 2 channels of the mixer.
just rca/quarter inch into the mixer if your soundcard has enough outs. you can set up what outs what traktor deck goes to. if nae, cannae help you.
How did producers make beats from other records for mcee's back in the 80's/90's without the aid of computers?
>>65544253
>faf about
What?
And alright I'll check it out
>>65544374
so basically i'd need an external soundcard, right?
>>65544460
aye. i don't know if newer mixers can split incoming digital signals over usb or ethernet or w/e but even if they could shouldn't rely on that.
normally you send your decks out to mixers over separate channels. sumfin like the traktor audio 10 if you need all 4 decks.
>>65544233
If you use a traditional DJ mixer you'll need an interface that feeds two of the mixer's stereo line inputs with audio.
With the Behringer mixer it has only a single stereo audio output via USB so you'd be in the same position there - you'd need something that can take multiple stereo outputs from Traktor and feed them to separate stereo channels on the mixer.
The NI certified Pioneer mixers have the multi-output interface built-in so they will allow you to do what you want, the RMX-40 seems to be a little bit different in that it has two USB interfaces so you could conceivably create an aggregate device from both that would have two distinct stereo outputs - you'd be faffing about with ASIO4All to do that and maybe it would work - try searching the Traktor forums for the Reloop device.
>>65544438
Samplers
>>65544438
they still had sequencers and synths and drum machines
and they could sample and shit
Do you guys know of any comfy videos where people or bands are in the lab cooking up bangers
I'm in need of some quick motivation and inspiration
>>65544304
You'd have to split deck A and deck B so that each deck was only outputting through a single channel (they'd therefore be in mono) with both outputs of deck A on the left channel for example and deck B on the right.
You could also try what I suggested here >>65544631 using ASIO4All to create an aggregate device from your Behringer mixer and your computer's built-in audio interface - that would give you two stereo outputs:
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/support/knowledge-base/show/325/how-can-i-configure-traktor-for-two-audio-interfaces/
>>65544833
Any I've seen in the past have been either self-conscious stuttering messes as soon as the camera rolls so they get fuck all productive done, or they start playing up to the camera and are too busy high-fiving each other or punching each other in the nuts to get anything productive done.
Into The Lair is the only thing I can stand to watch - Dave Pensado talks slow but works fast - Dubspot does get some decent guests bu they usually talk for too long and don't do enough to be properly engrossing viewing.
>>65543890
Live I'm using a Yamaha an1x synthesiser, in the studio I use Logic X
>>65543750
>>65545559
But I'm trying to recreate the original so when I play live it'll play on its own and I can play over the top
>>65545459
>Any I've seen in the past have been either self-conscious stuttering messes as soon as the camera rolls so they get fuck all productive done, or they start playing up to the camera and are too busy high-fiving each other or punching each other in the nuts to get anything productive done.
lmao
I'll check out into the lair, thanks
>>65545559
>>65545581
if you've got the ability to send midi to the synth from your computer you could just loop a midi clip instead of prerecording.
if you want to remain flexible (and i'm not familiar with logic in a live context so i'll just go by how ableton live handles it) you could break the midi up into bar length clips, so if you want to jam out over a particular section you would have the choice.
only reason you'd want to do midi instead of audio loops is maintaining control over envelopes etc in a live situation. using midi however, might tie up your synth unless your synth that can be split into zones.
if you don't care about improvisation etc then just stick with a loop in logic. everyone will have to be very tight live since you're essentially playing along to a backing tracking in that scenario. seriously consider a daw that allows clip launching for the live stuff.
Hey guys does this sound okay? Is there anything overly loud that I'm not noticing?
https://clyp.it/le5uqsfy
How do I get a Tycho/Boards of Canada sound? Is it mostly from what effects they use or can I get similar sounds with just synths/vsts?
best vsts for orchestral stuff with horns, flutes and strings? kind of like the stuff in Age of Adz by sufjan stevens. thanks.
>>65547982
fx and composition. this is some cover a dude did with an sh201 (considered one of the most mediocre synths)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2345020/Boards%20of%20Canada%20-%20Open%20The%20Light.mp3
>>65548491
Damn thats pretty good. So I could do something similar with a juno?
>>65547926
>https://clyp.it/le5uqsfy
that sounds good man, got the monitors and headphones bumpin, good job!
>>65548588
Thanks!
>>65548631
https://clyp.it/3jvn3zsd
What do you think of this, as far as production goes. It's not a very loud mastering job, I'm pretty new at in general
>>65548578
probaly pretty easily t b h
>>65543475
can i get some feedback?
>>65543475
>https://clyp.it/gylcjreh
a bit muddy/10
try a slight eq over the final mix see what you can do, maybe bump the highs a tad or lower some mid bass ranges a tad. slight adjustments
>>65543296
feedback, pls guys
